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JoaKim
October 12th, 2007, 03:57 pm
Hi again

I thought I should show the finished work of the one methodx help me improve. There was another too, but there was not a big change there.



Have not been drawing as much as I wanted… Most sketches. Here’s a work to show something new.



It would be nice to hear what you like about those. And perhaps what you want me to change/improve. I might not do the change. But for the next it could be good information to use in the process. Working on old stuff is not very appealing. ^___^

HopelessComposer
October 13th, 2007, 01:40 am
Ah, I like the second one very much. Black to white values are all represented very nicely, and it's a cool design.

As for the first one, it's a cool picture and everything, but I don't think you're doing enough with your color choices. The whole picture is...blue. Not enough contrast in my opinion; it makes the painting look a little flat/dull. I like how the clouds are represented though - the whole shaving cream blobbly gellish effect you have going on with them is pretty damned cool. :)

Ah, the clouds seem to have a broken perspective though, as they get further back in the picture. They're fine in the foreground, but it seems like the ones in the back are off; it looks kind of like you drew this on a flat piece of paper, then folded the paper at a right angle and stood it up...if that makes any sense. I think you'll see what I'm talking about if you look.

JoaKim
October 13th, 2007, 06:24 pm
HopelessComposer Thanks. Good to know what you think. I have the same opinions as you pretty much.


Perspective is something many professional artist have problems with (I read it in a book ^__^) it makes me feel better even if that’s not true. Haha. Anyway, I am getting better at doing it… I hope. About the colour, the dark matter is actually most green but there are clouds and stuff that makes the totality look blue. I kind of like that thou. I will show you a blue image i have made…

I call it: ‘ice cave’. “You are going deeper into your cave...” (fight club) I am getting out of it.

I made it last week. Pretty fresh work.
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3233/icecavelb9.jpg

HopelessComposer
October 14th, 2007, 12:05 am
Yes, perspective is something every artist has some trouble with I think. Just have to practice a lot, hahah.

I like this picture much more. It's mainly one color again, but it pops a lot lot more.

JoaKim
October 14th, 2007, 12:41 pm
Edited.

{CriMsoN_DraGoN}
October 14th, 2007, 01:10 pm
The Ice cave is very flashy, though it doesn't jump out as me as much. perhaps, if you had made the surroundings of the inner mysterious part (the hole or whatever you call it) then it would have made the viewer think much more like he/she was actually there. And to have that feeling of being attracted deeper and deeper in the cave.

As for the stairway to guess, it looks like heavon... that is exactly what I speak of. the stairs are shadowy, and conspicius. While the sky part stands out and tells the viewer, this is the only way to go, or an attraction that eats away at the viewer's curiosity.

Other than that, well done. Keep it up, it's good to see that you are experimenting with colors and try to work out of doing pencil all the time.
It's what defines a true artist, creativity.

HopelessComposer
October 14th, 2007, 08:46 pm
I like this new one too. It's very fun to look at. :3
A minor complaint would be that the pillar to the left has a weird perspective to it, like the top is twisting to the left of the screen. It shouldn't be facing straight towards us like that, unless of course, it actually is twisting to the left of the picture.

JoaKim
October 15th, 2007, 10:13 am
{CriMsoN_DraGoN} Thanks for helping out.

HopelessComposer The idea of pillar is too be twisted but it’s just how it come to be. I will think of it and try out some alternatives. Thanks.

I have to fight parents now. Fundamental Christians… No offends to Christians. There are all kinds of types. For them: I am a son of Hades. So I need to figure out a way to get out. I am a pretty optimist. All they talk of is Armageddon. Gee.. Cheerful right? “you should not build richness on earth”, instead they seek pain, that’s the prise to gain gold in heaven.

The earlier image seems not to work for me, anyway. Here is a little update. Going pretty slow. I will take time later today and work harder. I was thinking on the perspective and started changing the living?statue-thing. And other stuff. Did not do so much on it thou. And I put some light to the sides (orange) to give it more life, or effect…. It looks better for me, for the moment. I think of doing a man on the higher level of the stairs also.

Zjic...
October 15th, 2007, 09:34 pm
*threw away his pencil, sits in the corner and starts quietly crying*

HopelessComposer
October 15th, 2007, 10:28 pm
HopelessComposer The idea of pillar is too be twisted but it’s just how it come to be. I will think of it and try out some alternatives. Thanks.

Oops, I meant to say that the pillar on the right side of the picture is messed up. The one on the left is fine. M'bad. And the picture is coming along nicely. :3

*threw away his pencil, sits in the corner and starts quietly crying*
And that's exactly why you aren't as good as JoaKim. ;)

{CriMsoN_DraGoN}
October 16th, 2007, 02:11 am
O yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Now the stairs really grab me. The 3-D effect you put into the slabs in the stairs really add to the amount of attraction it puts on the viewer. Very Nice, and making the 3rd layer of the twist a more eyecatching perspective really does add life to the picture. Nice improve, nice to see you trying to improve your work, I know I don't have the time nor the potention to do such as that.

JoaKim
October 18th, 2007, 08:58 pm
I have this thing for lightning… fetish perhaps. But it disappeared know. It will probably get back later :3.

When I have been in a state of focus for a longer time I seem to forget simple things. And I become like the old hag in Howls moving castle; Just sits down and watching, while the world rolls in ecstasy at her feet. Composed euphoria. Makes all work worthy.


Zjic... Become a space monkey! Sacrifice yourself for the greater good. Give 13 hour every day and you become a pro in 2 years!!! I can’t guaranty that, but it’s very plausible.


HopelessComposer Oh, I should have understood that. ^__^ HAha. Don’t know exactly what you mean, still, but I have fixed the pillars on that side, the other. I will probably work more on it also. My English is not the best either. But I catch on. Maybe.

{CriMsoN_DraGoN}
I like to read how you describe what I have painted. Very elevating. It gives me the reflection I want. Good doing so.



Haven’t painting anything today, but did some yesterday.
I have a dilemma. Space or an abstracted cloud heaven. It feels so dull right now… Bahh. I like the bird thou.

The pillars have been fixed and the perspective too. I used Maya and did a 3d model to help. Like the great videogame company does. ^__^ Just for the wings of the bird, I did that. I was out for a decadent architecture btw. Ohh, about the stong light, it will be corrected.

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/1386/stairsheaventl0.jpg



http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/6376/stairsspacevb6.jpg

The space does not feel so good anymore. I did't give it much time either.
I will work on it tomorrow and try finishing it. I have other stuff to draw/paint

HopelessComposer
October 19th, 2007, 01:37 am
Oh, I should have understood that. ^__^ HAha. Don’t know exactly what you mean, still, but I have fixed the pillars on that side, the other. I will probably work more on it also. My English is not the best either. But I catch on. Maybe.

Hahah, I took the liberty of scribbling on your drawing a bit to illustrate what I mean.
http://www.eterna-soft.com/images/stairsspacevb6.jpg

Thar. The red, colored in portion with the line pointing to it is missing in your drawing; I think from where the camera is in your drawing, that the red side should be visible. Just a suggestion though. :3

Also, the picture is getting better and better looking.

isantop
October 19th, 2007, 04:53 am
I have this thing for lightning… fetish perhaps. But it disappeared know. It will probably get back later :3.

When I have been in a state of focus for a longer time I seem to forget simple things. And I become like the old hag in Howls moving castle; Just sits down and watching, while the world rolls in ecstasy at her feet. Composed euphoria. Makes all work worthy.


Zjic... Become a space monkey! Sacrifice yourself for the greater good. Give 13 hour every day and you become a pro in 2 years!!! I can’t guaranty that, but it’s very plausible.


HopelessComposer Oh, I should have understood that. ^__^ HAha. Don’t know exactly what you mean, still, but I have fixed the pillars on that side, the other. I will probably work more on it also. My English is not the best either. But I catch on. Maybe.

{CriMsoN_DraGoN}
I like to read how you describe what I have painted. Very elevating. It gives me the reflection I want. Good doing so.



Haven’t painting anything today, but did some yesterday.
I have a dilemma. Space or an abstracted cloud heaven. It feels so dull right now… Bahh. I like the bird thou.

The pillars have been fixed and the perspective too. I used Maya and did a 3d model to help. Like the great videogame company does. ^__^ Just for the wings of the bird, I did that. I was out for a decadent architecture btw. Ohh, about the stong light, it will be corrected.

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/1386/stairsheaventl0.jpg



http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/6376/stairsspacevb6.jpg

The space does not feel so good anymore. I did't give it much time either.
I will work on it tomorrow and try finishing it. I have other stuff to draw/paint

Hmmm... I like the first one a little more. For some reason, more color just appeals to me.

I like your art a lot. I guess those two years paid off. XD

{CriMsoN_DraGoN}
October 21st, 2007, 05:10 pm
Wow, really stop, before I go insane. It just amazes me how much you can do with just one lil picture. The top one depicts more of a gateway to somewhere heavonly or like paradise, or a "Walk into the light" concept, while the bottom looks like a totally different perspective, one of which depicts a gateway into darkness which to mean grabs more attraction and curiosity because of all that empty space and makes the viewer think "If I were to go into that gateway, would I return?" Very Very nice, you are very creative you have a good mind to ya. I like it, one of the best arts I've seen, you really do put feeling into your art. I really like it.

Oh, and I really do believe I see a little person at the top of the stairway on the bottom pic. am I right?

JoaKim
October 22nd, 2007, 09:34 pm
HopelessComposer Thanks. Good you told me. I have fixed that part.

isantop Thank you. I may do some space later on. I have not actually done that for two years. I got my wacom in February 06. That’s when I started drawing much after some years of laziness. I have working with 3D too (not this year since January) so I have not worked 13 hours a day. ^__^ But some weeks I did. And another period I did that some months. I hope to be able to do that again. So I can level up fast!

{CriMsoN_DraGoN} Haha. Thanks. I have some problems with this. I have made it more pleasant. I don’t know if I should show it get, or if I shall change it to be darker at the down again, and lighter higher up. That gives a good contrast. But I don’t feel like working on this right now.

HopelessComposer
October 22nd, 2007, 10:27 pm
HopelessComposer Ahh Thanks. Good you told me. How could I miss that.. And twelve million other errors.. =)
I have fixed that part, altered it pretty much.
No problem, glad I could help. And I make around thirty million errors per painting, so no worries. :3