With the competition ending almost two weeks ago and no one hearing anything, we (the entrants) collectively decided to take the voting thread into our own hands.

Votes will be made publicly, and feel free to make comments to support your decision.

The original thread, with details of the competition is here (http://forums.ichigos.com/showthread.php?t=11219)

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Entries

Yuki no Namida (Tears of Snow)- (http://download.yousendit.com/57FD9FC579C5F5A9 )- The Winning Team
String Quartet in Eb Major (http://www.crumble-onuts.com/music/String_Quartet.mp3)- Team Crumble-Onuts
Tetralatry (http://www.mediafire.com/?mtvzritnutz)- Meim + Thorn
Untitled (http://www.esnips.com/doc/541fe65a-50ab-4aec-9eac-2185d4ce904b/Comp )- Team Skorchin’ Shizeet

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Descriptions

Yuki no Namida (http://forums.ichigos.com/showpost.php?p=397238&postcount=7)
String Quartet in Eb Major (http://forums.ichigos.com/showpost.php?p=397259&postcount=9 )
Description of Tetralatry comes with the MIDI link above
Untitled (http://forums.ichigos.com/showpost.php?p=397323&postcount=13 )

I vote for the Untitled piece because it would be stupid of me not to vote for my own piece.

Actually, on these forums, self voting is strictly prohibited.

I vote for Yuki no Namida (even though I hate myself for it since the name of their team annoys me so much), because it stays interesting throughout, and has some really cool atmospheres. However, I really thought Tetralatry would have been my first choice had it been less repetitive; it definitely dragged quite a bit in the first half.

Edit: the thing that I liked about Tetralatry was how well thought out it was, which is one of the things I most value in a piece.

Haha thanks Deathraider ! Don't worry, we aren't the type of guys that always think they are better than everyone. Porsche was just joking . :^_^

So anyways, my vote goes to ..................... Untitled- Team Skorchin’ Shizeet's piece ( even though I hate myself for doing so because the name of their piece annoys me so much ) :sweat:

I chose this song because it is the one I was most entertained from. This song would have sounded really nice with some nice virtual instruments and since it was done in like a week , I think they deserve my vote.

I actually liked all the pieces in the contest but thought the other two dragged on and I lost interest after a while.

Seriously? In that case I'm not gonna vote >_<
The first piece took too long. It made me get tired of string instruments
and then guess what! A STRING QUARTET >_< AGHHHH
Telatry was pretty intresting from what I heard of it but I couldn't listen to the whole thing for...various reasons.

Edit.
PS. I'll give real responses later. I'm at school! :D

@ Skorch - the first piece is programatic, so it doesn't have to be short and sweet like a pop song. To each his own, tho :)

I gotta say, I've listened to all the piece here and although each one is unique and well done.... I vote "Tears of Snow".

As I heard it, that piece really blended the talents and styles of PorscheGTIII and Tianlong very well, to the point where I couldn't tell who did which section.... unlike a couple of the other songs where there seemed to be a clear cut difference in where one person left off and the other began. Instrumentation was superb (love the double bassoon at the end chord! ^_^ ) and it really pulled at my emotions... which is what music is supposed to do.

Well done and good luck to all!

Since Noir was absent for a while, it's unfortunate that we cannot finish our composition. Asides from that, I was rather busy over the past little while, but now that I've got some time, I guess it's time for me to comment~

Tetralatry:

By the looks of the score, indeed I was very much reminded of Satie's Gymnopedies (especially the theme itself). But if I was to be picky about the score, I'd say: be decisive and don't mix French and Italian together. It's not a major problem, but it's just to make the score more professional. On the musical side, I find that there are too much going on. Yes, the coherence is there with the theme being the focus of the composition. However, because there are too many textures, the overall form of the composition became rather rigid. I guess something your group may wish to improve on is the overall coherence in style and keeping a composition together without having too many ideas. It's not bad overall!


Yuki no Namida:

Noir and I were originally composing a piece based on a wintery story too, so it is interesting to see what other people would do to a similar theme. Perhaps I should describe this as more of an incidental piece than a concert piece. Technically speaking, it feels rather sparse. Where's the countermelody? You've got a melody. You've got some harmony, but where's the interesting stuff in between? I would also call this piece musically adventurous seeing the fact that there's a contrasting section in the middle. Oh, and watch out for the use of percussion. The drums got rather tedious after a while. I mean, it's alright to have it playing for a while, but do it tastefully by varying it in texture and rhythmic motifs. Also, those long notes on the violin, they just go on forevvvveeer and ever... Do something about them. More vibrato, drop an octave, harmonics, whatever, but don't kill the audience. Overall, I felt the piece dragged a little too long. My composition prof once told me: if you could get a point over to the audience in 5 minutes, you don't need another extra 5 to annoy your audience. It's not a bad piece, but I feel that it is rather mediocre.

String Quartet in Eb:

Okay, very important point: writing for string quartet isn't writing for string orchestra. Your group's approach to this 'quartet' was way too... Not string quartet. Yes, Borodin wrote like this. But look at Mozart's quartet, look at Ravel's, Shostakovich's, Webern's... It's quartet writing, all four parts are equally of importance. Therefore, you need to give equal importance to all parts. But from the first movement, I only hear the first violin in prominence yet the other instruments never got their moments. Also, there was not enough contrast to capture the audience's attention. It just dragged on until the second movement. The second movement seemed more promising with its voicing. Yes, pizzicato accompaniment is nice, but don't make it so static. Some cello Bartok pizz. is nice... Overall, I find this piece lacking in exposing what a quartet is supposed to do. Where's the double stops and triple stops? Where's the elegance of a quartet? The interplay of the four parts? Sometimes writing a quartet is more complicated than writing, say, an orchestral piece. In orchestral music, you can get by with harmony vs. melody. But in quartet writing, you have only 4 instruments! When you thought you could do some harmony, you'd suddenly realize you won't have enough countermelody, and etc... Quartet writing isn't easy. In fact, it was what I was busy with for the last while. I've been told that composers should write a quartet every 10 years as it shows how proficient they are with counterpoints, melodic arrangements, and various other aspects of music. But asides from my rant, my overall comment: it lacks the spirit of a quartet I looked foward to.

Untitled:

I don't know why, I was reminded of Bartok immediately. Which is a good thing, I like Bartok. Again, Shizeet, I love your orchestration and instrumental colourings and counterpoint and harmony. However, the major issue with this piece is its coherence in melodic elements. I just felt that the melody repeated too much or just never happened at all. Variation and development is the key here. It felt that your melody never went anywhere. However, it's sometimes a good thing. But in your case, the orchestration you did seemed to want to thrive, but then your melodic structure suddenly held it back from developing it into something more interesting.

Overall, I see a lot of effort in these compositions. I applaud for that. But one common thing that these four compositions share is that they are all rather... Too overwhelming. Yes, personal expression is important in music. But if it's not done in an organized, and at times 'intelligent' way, then it'd be like a rant versus an essay in writing. Both a rant and an essay could have extraordinary ideas, but the idea of an essay just gives the reader a sense that it'll be cultured and intelligent. I'm not saying these four pieces are unintelligent (in fact, Tetralatry is rather clever in many ways), but I felt they could be organized much better if more form was used.

My vote goes Untitled by Shizeet and Skorch. As mentioned before, the orchestration is well done. Though I would say there are things to be improved upon in the melodic structures, it still felt relatively exciting with the different textures of the orchestration. Very well done, nevertheless.

All I can say is that I'm sorry that I'm not Ravel. I think that if you had evaluated other aspects of my movement besides just that it wasn't what you think a string quartet should be, you would have found some things of merit. Furthermore, I think that you underestimate the polyphony that I did use; it most definitely was not only the first violin always having the melody. In fact the second violin had it more often.

However, I realize that it was not exactly challenging to play, or even really exciting. It was supposed to be a very slow moving, lulling movement.

Sorry, but I feel I have to defend my song. It is, after all, my brain child.

Do I have to explain why?...

If not then... I'll vote Untitled....sorry Porsche x]

yeah as Sir Dot Dot said, Tears of Snow kinda dragged on a little....If thats what he meant o.0

All I can say is that I'm sorry that I'm not Ravel. I think that if you had evaluated other aspects of my movement besides just that it wasn't what you think a string quartet should be, you would have found some things of merit. Furthermore, I think that you underestimate the polyphony that I did use; it most definitely was not only the first violin always having the melody. In fact the second violin had it more often.

However, I realize that it was not exactly challenging to play, or even really exciting. It was supposed to be a very slow moving, lulling movement.

Sorry, but I feel I have to defend my song. It is, after all, my brain child.
Regardless of what Sir_Dot didn't comment on, I agree with the things he did say. To me, it seems like you concentrated too much on the violin and completely forgot what you could do with the other instruments... one would expect an interesting cello or viola part in a 5 minute String Quartet, but there is none. Overall, I think, you very much ignored the middle ground of the piece, focusing on the fore- and background only. The second part of the song is much better than the first, which is rather boring with all the long notes and simple harmony.

Anyway, I think you should appreciate constructive criticism more, remember, he spend his time to give you genuine advice. It seems like, he wasted his time in this case though, because you feel defending your opinion is more important than improving.

Back to the actual topic of this thread: I vote for "Yuki no Namida", the themes are quite good and do have a wintry feeling to them, especially the one in the beginning. Of course there are things you could have improved, some of the transitions between the motifs seem a bit abrupt for example, but that's always a problem when you work in teams (and themes ;)). The long violin notes between the first and the second motif are rather annoying. You did a good job on the percussions and the rhythm, although you should have used a larger variety of drums to make it more interesting and to prevent it from growing too repetitive. The quality of the audio is impressive and I guess it took a hell of a long time to sample it. :P

Hmm, so far the votes are:

Yuki no Namida (Tears of Snow): 4 Votes
String Quartet in Eb Major: 0 Votes
Tetralatry: 0 Votes
Untitled: 2 vote

How long will be the voting process? I am still not sure for which one to vote.

Untitled:
However, the major issue with this piece is its coherence in melodic elements. I just felt that the melody repeated too much or just never happened at all. Variation and development is the key here. It felt that your melody never went anywhere. However, it's sometimes a good thing. But in your case, the orchestration you did seemed to want to thrive, but then your melodic structure suddenly held it back from developing it into something more interesting.



Hm...Is that something that could be blamed on me or shizeet? Cause I think that's pretty much my fault. I had alota homework the week we worked on this so I didn't get do what I told shizeet I was gonna do :think: -.-

Anyway, I think you should appreciate constructive criticism more, remember, he spend his time to give you genuine advice. It seems like, he wasted his time in this case though, because you feel defending your opinion is more important than improving.


I'm sorry, my point wasn't that I mind him (or you for that matter) giving constructive criticism, but I don't take criticism well when its given in such a condescending manner. I really feel like you guys are too quick to pull apart my movement and point out all its weaknesses; I really put a lot of thought into it, and I know there are strengths there that you are discounting, even if they aren't extremely complicated harmonies (sometimes true musicality comes from the simplicity of a piece) and even though I did not give cello its fair share of the melody.

I'm sorry to go off topic but this is something that has always frustrated me, and will always frustrate me.

Edit: I know someone will automatically think that I'm just being a sore loser, but it has nothing to do with winning. As most people would realize by looking at my thread, I tend to be quite defensive of my songs when someone blindly criticizes them.

Hmm, so far the votes are:

Yuki no Namida (Tears of Snow): 4 Votes
String Quartet in Eb Major: 0 Votes
Tetralatry: 0 Votes
Untitled: 2 vote

How long will be the voting process? I am still not sure for which one to vote.

Err... well maybe until Easter (next Sunday) is long enough? so another week? even though i think virtually everyone who is going to vote has already voted.

im not sure which to vote for yet either :think:

to be honest, group compositions are like getting two artists to work together on the same painting: both are nice in their own right but together they just dont have the same quality as an individual painting.

when this is taken into consideration, i would say that on the whole people are being a bit harsh. out of all the options we were given for a type of composition, you voted for the hardest and most troublesome one, and then still expect the finished products to be as amazing as, for example, the entries of the summer 07 competition. no wonder some teams dropped out- when it actually came down to doing the work they realised that it wasnt just a case of "yay lets hold hands and be a team because we're cool"

so yeah... what im trying to say is that it was a difficult competition and everyone has done well to even put something together. so there's no need to get so heat up about other people's comments.

http://download.yousendit.com/57FD9FC579C5F5A9

Here's the new link for the song..I think another week should be enough. Porsche if you could edit it again plz. :)

@Deathraider: Hey don't worry about it so much man. I thought Sir... was being harsh with us too but he gave his opinion so anyways. We at least made it for the deadline which is already pretty good I think. Remember what Noir7 said ? People that dont actually post their contest song will lose 12 cool points haha !

One thing is, people in here hope we would have the composing skills they are looking for, instead of looking at our entry as a piece we had one month and a half to work on with someone you can only contact by internet. I think some are taking things really too seriously and should be a little more open minded about everything in here. We're here to have fun aren't we ?

@ Skorch: I wouldn't say it's anyone's fault, I mean, it's a group piece after all, and you got my vote anyways.

@ Deathraider: I do not find my comments or Matt's comments harsh in anyways at all. Just because we're picking out what your weaknesses in your pieces are, it doesn't mean that we're being superior to you in anyways. If you disagree, then you can take it as a grain of salt. It's not like we could do anything. However, as a composer, I do not think he or she must believe that there must be merits in their music. Yes, one may say they attempted to achieve this and that, but you know, the audience perceives it differently. The audience is not you, the composer. They don't see the same things as you. When they find it boring, they do find it boring. Some people might be nice and sugarcoat their comments just to avoid hurting your ego, but others are honest. Why? It's not because they want to kill your self-confidence (I don't see what good that will bring for anyone), they're just giving you advice to improve. But whether if you take it, that's your problem, not mine, not Matt's and not anyone else's.

As a composer, you need to realize criticism from anyone isn't much of a thing. I mean, I'm sure Stravinsky was pretty pissed when they started a riot in the theatre during the premiere of his Rite of Spring because they found it 'musically vulgar and inappropriate'. How did you think he felt? Well, take it to a lower level, everytime I go see my composition prof, I, myself, have to write pages of his criticisms and things he tells me to change in my composition. However, I don't find them 'harsh' or feel that he has anything against me or my creativity. He's just giving me ideas to improve. A composer can't just be so focused on his own ideas. You're writing to entertain people, you're not always writing for yourself. If the audience is not entertained, they're not, you can't change that fact.

@ Thorn: As a composer, you just need to accept the same results no matter what you went through. If you got a commission for composition and you have to get it done in a week, it doesn't matter what effort you had put in the last seven days. People always get the first impression of it by the finished product, as much as anyone hate to admit it.

@ Tianlong: Again, I don't really have the power to care what composing skills anyone here has. Matt and I are suggesting things that could be done to improve your writing, but if you don't care, well, neither could we. I treat all composition the same (whether it be a piece done in one day, a month with two people, or a symphony that took 10 years) because no matter what your'e composing, you're still using the same principle. For example, those long string notes in your piece might appear again in some other pieces of yours. So I told you what you could've possibly done to make it less dull. And how serious people take composition is also a matter of opinion; you see, not everyone here aspires to be good amateur composers, some actually do consider to be real composers/arrangers or a real musician. True, we're hardly there yet, but we have our own rights to treat it as seriously as we would in the future.

@Dotdotdot: I hardly think a single person here is (or ever will be) comparable with Stravinsky.

but, essentially, yes i agree that if the audience is not entertained then they are not, simple as. but i disagree that you're not always writing for yourself. if there isnt something in the music you are writing that excites you, then it is completely worthless. yes it is important to get criticism and ideas, but that is all they are. for example just because your composition prof tells you to do this instead of that, it doesnt mean you MUST change it because he/she is right and you are wrong. you may take that composition to a different prof of equal level/experience who will tell you it is fine. it's up to you as an individual to take or leave that advice- and i dont think its a bad thing to leave it at times. 20th century music as it is today wouldnt even exist if it wasnt for people such as Debussy saying well hang on, it might not please you but i actually like it quite a lot. but similarly to what i said above, none of us here are or ever will be comparable with Debussy either.



edit: Tianlong i have updated your link in the original post :)

@Sirdotdotdot :

Yeah you're right I guess. To tell you the truth, I really think constructive criticism is a really good way to improve yourself, and I thank you for your sincerity.

The thing is , I think it's how this all happened that made me a little bit frustrated about your post. Porsche and I were really eager to hear what you and Noir7 were going to compose and we knew that this was going to be a really good entry (if not the best ) so we had to give it all out.

After wrapping the last details for the song, the evening before the deadline, we were pretty satisfied with it ( well I was at least...don't want to talk for Porsche here ). The only thing on my mind was to finally hear your composition and see where we stood from it; since I really thought your team was the best in general.

Then, two weeks later, neither you nor Noir7 had showed up yet and I was pretty pissed because I felt let down by the two of you. ( I know that's my problem haha ) I thought you could have at least taken 5 minutes of your time to come and say something.

And then, you show up one day, without warning @_@ , and criticize everything we've work really hard on. I thought this was really harsh since you had not even come up with an entry yourself.

Looking at it now, it was my fault of having so much expectations. You only said what you really felt about our pieces and that is pretty normal I guess.
So anyways, thanks for the comment cause I really wish to improve my composition skills.

Can we put up a poll so that more people on the forum could vote? Though it would include more amateur votes, but I think it would be nice if we had more of an audience here.

My vote is going to Tetralatry.

String Quartet in Eb Major - Everything was nice, nothing sounded odd. I didn't pick this piece because, it just didn't strike me as interesting. Not that the melodies and what not weren't interesting just I found myself wandering doing something else rather than pay attention to the piece.

Tetralatry - My vote goes here. The MIDI file does not do this piano piece justice...go figure. I thought the melody was very mysterious and mixed with the chord progressions resulted in a very interesting piece. The only section I felt needed more work was Variation II. The left hand sounded a little too dull for my tastes.

Untitled - Nice work. I didn't choose your piece because I felt the transitions between different sections were a bit too harsh and some of the melodies just don't "sing" to me. There is some great orchestration I hear though!

So once again, my vote goes to Tetralatry.

@Dotdotdot: I hardly think a single person here is (or ever will be) comparable with Stravinsky.

but, essentially, yes i agree that if the audience is not entertained then they are not, simple as. but i disagree that you're not always writing for yourself. if there isnt something in the music you are writing that excites you, then it is completely worthless. yes it is important to get criticism and ideas, but that is all they are. for example just because your composition prof tells you to do this instead of that, it doesnt mean you MUST change it because he/she is right and you are wrong. you may take that composition to a different prof of equal level/experience who will tell you it is fine. it's up to you as an individual to take or leave that advice- and i dont think its a bad thing to leave it at times. 20th century music as it is today wouldnt even exist if it wasnt for people such as Debussy saying well hang on, it might not please you but i actually like it quite a lot. but similarly to what i said above, none of us here are or ever will be comparable with Debussy either.





@ Thorn: As for the Stravinsky problem, it's just an example of how composers must accept criticism, no matter what form it is in. I never compared anyone to him.

Furthermore, do not put words I didn't say in my mouth, I have already stated that a composer should take all criticism as a grain of salt, whether if they agree to it or not. As mentioned before, you don't need to do it if you don't want to. Other people are merely suggesting for your own good.

As for Tianlong: Yes, it's very unfortunate that Noir and I couldn't complete the piece. However, it's under a circumstance where Noir is actually really busy with something serious in life (hence the fact I hadn't seen him for a month). It's not just you, I'm rather disappointed at the fact that we can't finish our piece too. Nevertheless, putting a lot of effort is always a good excercise. I also feel honoured that you felt what you said, and I'm sure Noir will too. But life does not always permit things to go certain ways.

OK, I still think everyone is misunderstanding me. I don't have a problem with positive or constructive criticism. All I'm asking you to do is not ONLY poke at the weaknesses. I think if you only look at the weaknesses (of anything, or anyone), without looking at the strengths, then you aren't doing it justice; after all, nothing is perfect, everything has its weaknesses. Some of the weaknesses are just better hidden.

PS - "do not put words I didn't say in my mouths"? lol, How many mouths do you have? :P

Actually it should be "Do not put words I didn't thought or typed" He did not communicating with the mouth. =P

(sorry of come of no where just saying that and out of subject of voting).

@ Dotdotdot- i wasnt putting words in your mouth. the way i interpreted what you said is that basically that the audience is more important than the composer.

@ Darkened Angel- we didnt have a poll because then people could just be voting for themselves or getting other people voting for them. the way we are doing it is to try and curb that.

1) Whats the score?
2) Doesn't look like anyone else is gonna vote

WAIIT!

I vote for Untitled. Basically I find the elements interesting and I can imagine it in a musical! I vote basically by intuition.

String quartet is too soft! I have to turn UP my volume. I like the third quarter part of the music but the music did not seem to end properly. Is it the file?

Tears of snow was nice but downloading time made me pissed, my computer is a junk, by the way. It was a little too 'programme music' for my taste. It is a preference thing, really.

I am for the view that this is about the fun of composing. Everybody's pieces are really nice and now we really know the evilness of music composed by multiple composers.

@Sir dotdotdot, I know you went to see Tetralatry score, yes, we did variations of Satie Gymnopedie 3 and there was an excerpt there. Are you annoyed by the texturing? Don't you find it just a teeny weeny bit funny (irony) opposing Satie's traditional love for a cleaner french harmonies?

BTW, I didn't say this before, but I really did like the orchestration of the untitled piece, but I didn't feel it was as well thought out as some of the others.

The voting count so far is this one:

Entries:

Yuki no Namida (Tears of Snow)- 3 vote
String Quartet in Eb Major- 0 vote
Tetralatry- 1 vote
Untitled- 4 vote

Voters:

1.Deathraider vote for--> Yuki no Namida (Tears of Snow)
2.Tianlong--> Untitled
3.BigZenigata--> Yuki no Namida (Tears of Snow)
4.Sir_Dotdotdot--> Untitled
5.InfinityEX--> Untitled
6.Matt--> Yuki no Namida (Tears of Snow)
7.PorscheGTIII--> Tetralatry
8.meim--> Untitled

I hope I didn't make any mistake counting.

BTW, I didn't say this before, but I really did like the orchestration of the untitled piece, but I didn't feel it was as well thought out as some of the others.

It wasn't. It was just me making a random melody on piano and Shizeet making it sound awesome. :|
I'm not sure which one to vote for. I like them all xP

That's it for the voting ?!?! Already ?!?

I think we should tell people they don't have to give comments on the pieces if they don't want to. Maybe they are afraid...hehe

Come on people ! More votes for us, teams , who worked hard for this contest ! :lol:

NOOO I WANNA VOTE!!!

I most definitely liked Yuki no Namida. Yes, it dragged on a bit. But I was by far my favorite piece out of the bunch.

well, I think they were all interesting ideas so im being really picky with my choice.

Yuki no Namida- anyone who knows my music tastes will know that I like music with a story behind it, I think this is a really nice piece, but i wonder if the general concept of the poem would still come across to someone who hadnt read it? also, whenever i think of poetry set to music I think Gaspard de la Nuit, which although is a completely unfair comparison in every way possible, is one that I personally make.

String Quartet- this nearly got my vote to be honest. i think the idea behind it and what both composers were trying to do was original- but the finished product sounded a bit unpolished to me.

Untitled- my vote goes to this one. it was the most consistent of the three and i think the idea of one composer arranging/orchestrating another's sketches was a great idea, and a good way of getting around the problem of producing something as a pair that sounds as one if that makes sense?

so my vote goes to Untitled

Vote count:

Yuki no Namida- 4 votes
String Quartet in Eb- 0 votes
Tetralatry- 1 vote
Untitled- 5 votes

Just a reminder that voting is open until the end of the week (23rd March) so if you haven't already get your vote in! And don't worry about writing a paragraph for each piece like some have done, just the name of the piece is enough.

To the rest of the composers- forward planning; what happens next?

I still have no idea for which one vote! I am between "String Quartet in Eb" & "Tetralatry". Unless I am allowed to vote for 2. XD

Im not really good at writing a big'ol paragraph for one piece, and i hope its not too late for me to vote... Plus its pesty because it forces a tie braker if no one votes in time, Or maybe it could be a draw.

The piece I vote for is a piece I think best matches the description of a Team composition, which Is what this whole thing is about. Despite a couple of things some of us may want to change about it, I thought it was a great result of team work.. - My Vote goes to Tianlong and PorscheGTIII with Yuki no Namida, for good work and creative writing ^.^ Good job! I look forward to the next time you two get together to write something.

Happy Easter everyone!

I am going to be breve here due I am not good commenting and I don't think I can go really deep.

Yuki no Namida(Tears of snow):

For Yuki no Namida I always felt this piece it was missing something, something that could fill it in the background because I felt emptiness. The percussions was a bit tiring in the beginning when you started to use it by repeating the same pattern from 2:42 to 4:00. I think some changes in the percussion could have helped or to be filled with the "something" else that was missing for me in the background. The piece have a good winter feel and I like it. The first time I listened to it I was a bit lost because I didn't read the the poem =P But the next time I did and I could understand much better the music and I liked it how it follow the poem with the mood and moments, the only problem was that the music seemed longer than the poem and when I thought a part ended it didn't ended, it was longer. The sound quality is good, the collaboration as a team seem good and that both contributed in the piece. Can't tell who really did what part and that is good it show all was mixed very well and is not notable who did what that is why I said the collaboration seem good and that both contributed in the piece.

String Quartet in Eb:

This String Quartet in Eb I liked it, I liked the mood and how is done despiting the word "Quartet" which I won't apply it. Through all the piece I found myself liking it and the collaboration I think it was done very well due the piece have a good flow. In the negative aspect the piece had contrasts but the contrasts of dynamics was not so present all seemed going softly, this can make people to feel tired or bored of the piece (Not my case, but it can happen to others) by not having a moment where the music can reach a moment of tension and catch the attention of the audience, not that need to be like that. Anyway I liked to listen to this piece.

Tetralatry:

Tetralatry it was the piece I listened a lot and would have loved to hear it on a real piano, it could have brought a good effect and feeling. Somewhere in the first variations things become dull by the slow flows. In variations III the music got the impulse and went to a faster speed than the previous variations, here all started to turn more interesting due to that heavy contrast of like 7 mins of slow music with some mins of music going faster and with more fire. The Third variation in my opinion the theme it was not exposed so well and strangely it make me think it can be used as an elegant boss battle theme (I know this is just me and how I interpret it in my mind =P). The connection to Variation IV and the same variation IV got all my attention and seem it was done by a pianist, those fast staccatos, I am gonna guess Thorn was the one that work that variation?

The finale continue doing staccatos not making it so different from the previous variation but was great to listen with the exception that it ended quite fast, It left me wanting to hear a longer finale, was un-satisfactory how finished with the fast grissando. The collaboration I am not sure what to say there parts seem to show that was done by one then the other. Oh btw the score it looks very clean and well done! Just one point that before was made by someone here of just stay with one language. What was the size you use for the score?

Untittled:

Untitled need a tittle! I am not an expert in orchestration nor I know much of how to orchestrate but the orchestration on this one seem very good to me of how was done, it have various good elements. There is a nice main theme that make me think of victory, olimpic games, very triumphant, etc. It have a good mood. In some parts I was lost with the music when the main theme was not playing, like the melodic lines needed a bit of improvement and coherence relationated with the main theme. It is an enjoyable piece. The collaboration is present while one do something and the other another thing.

Anyway Good Job people and congratulations!

My vote goes for Tetralatry.

Note: All I said is just my personal opinion of what I think/thought of the pieces. Sorry if I did say something wrong or bad.

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Edit:

Vote count:

Yuki no Namida- 5 votes
String Quartet in Eb- 0 votes
Tetralatry- 2 vote
Untitled- 5 votes

I don't really know if I can vote, but the one composition that moved me the most was Yuki no Namida, even if it was ~10 minutes long, it was really nice, relaxing piece.

If i can, I vote for Yuki no Namida although all the other compositions have a lot of merit too!

I think we got a winner. ;)

xD
GG!! ^^

what happens now?

I guess you people will need to decide of what to do with the winner work. I think it can be nice to do a "Hall of fame" an stick it on the composition section as a reward of to be a winner of Ichigo's music composition contest? One of Noir7 post said there was going to be a prize but since he not here I guess not prize.

We won ?!?! Youhooooooooo ! :lol:

Wow that was a close call. Thanks to everyone who voted for us !

Good job again to all who participated !

Just stopping by to say congrats to the winners! Also great job to everyone who participated.

In the negative aspect the piece had contrasts but the contrasts of dynamics was not so present all seemed going softly, this can make people to feel tired or bored of the piece (Not my case, but it can happen to others) by not having a moment where the music can reach a moment of tension and catch the attention of the audience, not that need to be like that. Anyway I liked to listen to this piece.


Just for the record, the reason the dynamics were all soft was more because the finale mp3 just ended up really quiet than because everything was at a soft dynamic. I think there were some ff in both movements that ended up sounding like mp or mf due to the mp3.

Is our song going to be on the main site one day ? :sweat:

urk, I completely missed this one. Would someone mind posting the winning MP3? or PM me and you can email it to me.

Sorry about missing this one for so long!!

It would be good if there is a new competition around here. If there is enough members that would participate. Things seem a little quiet.

There is one currently going on in the sheet music request thread.

http://forums.ichigos.com/showthread.php?t=12162

But I want to compose...not transcribe!