I have a forum for giving advice to composers and I didn't want to be all talk, so I thought I would post some of my current works. These are all finished so I don't need help, but if you would like to review them, I would greatly appreciate it. Don't steal them.:lol:

I would say something, but incompatible with my finale version (old one). Can you post a midi or mp3 file?

This happen so much to me here. xD

Just a minute...

Here you go.

I'm writing a tragedy called " Rite of Death at Mookshire Cove ". This will be my eleventh tragedy, hence my name.

This is just a draft so don't complain about it being random. Does it sound to you like incidental music?

Concertante Overture: Short but enjoyable to hear the style it was done. I hope to listen to more of this from you.

Russian Lullaby: I really didn't find it to bring that lullaby feel. Maybe because is not playing in the high registres nor have a cantable(singable) melody that can be common in a lullaby.

Incidental Music Incomplete: Not so tragic, you should go for tenser & darker harmonies, and melodies lines that can bring those atmosphere of tragedy. Unless the approach you going to do is not one to be so "tragic and dark"?

Incidental Music Incomplete- The ensemble will be mostly brass and strings ( a pit orchestra ). Piano is just the way I simplified my idea before I tried for Expansion. The bass notes will seem much heavier with different instrumentations.

An explanation about the lullaby: lullabies don't have to be merry. That is just a common trait. The russian lullaby was used as a reminder of the ( in this case 'woeful' ) past to the young as they fell into sleep. The english air was later adapted as a lullaby form and the cheer was natural to the tunes. Brahmes' lullaby is what you might be thinking of. I still appreciate your commentary.
Thank you for your time, Nyu001 !

In my other thread, I mentioned that I started composing little tunes at age 5. This is note for note the first melody I used.

Actually I was thinking of the Monsters' lullaby(Dissonant) and lullabies that are mostly harmonic than melodic. But as to recognize a lullaby in terms of popular perception, lullabies tend to be sweet and melodious bringing feelings of calm. I was going with that perception in my words. Not that a lullaby need to be like that, but is how I perceive a lullaby. Probably Brahms famous lullaby is what set those thoughts of how people might think a lullaby is. However, I also think anything can be considered as lullaby if you are going to use it for make your baby sleep or any other person. Anyway my words were going with that perception of sweet/calmy/melodious lullaby. ;) I hope I didn't sound confusing or weird wording!

First Melody: Nice, I lost the sheet music of the first two piano pieces I composed. I would like to have them again. =( I still remember the first tune I played in a keyboard without understand anything. I was a kid.

Just glad everything is understood.

So yeah, actually, I'd already heard your Concertante Overture in your other thread, and needless to say, for a song composed in 20 minutes, this is far more than I could imagine myself doing. It's sound in every musical aspect, and it doesn't go overboard either. So suffice to say, the simplicity and succinct nature of this song really appealed to me.

Also, the Russian Lullaby, well... I'm not one to judge different styles of music due to my lack of experience, but again, technically, it was musically sound which of course, is always awesome to hear.

And the fact that your writing a musical alone is a great enough feat as it is disregarding whether or not the music isn't good. But, of course, the latter is not the case, as always, you've successfully managed to put a genius musical idea into reality.

And your first piece is something I really wish I could've gotten even remotely close to. My first piece, well, I kinda lost it too... or more like, my computer crashed and I lost all my files, so... that sucked, but it was not great loss. So, yeah... I think it's really interesting how you got started with vocals, I dont' know... you didnt' really seem to be like a vocals type of guy to me.

I know that my critiques are seemingly always positive, but I guess I just need to get a better idea of what to expect. So far, you've raised the bar for everyone.

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I had trouble playing it at 5 years old, and I had to sing it to my father, who would write it down. I wasn't nearly as fluent as I am now.

This is a little depressing, but this is the idea for my tragedy.

A man is slowly going insane at his little abode where he lives with his wife on Mookshire Cove. As he grows more intensely insane, he develops a mysterious second identity that comes out of him at random. He has greatly different personalities along with amnesia-like symptoms afterward. When normal, he is awkward, but still a good person at heart. When he becomes the other person, he becomes corrupt and extremely violent. But there is a sweet quality to him that is the cause of the tragedy. The demon inside loves his wife. The demon writes anonymous letters and sends them to his wife. The wife is entirely innocent, and so in love with her husband that she disposes of the letters. She forgets one. The husband finds one of the letters and goes to the postman that delivers them and asks for an address. As policy, the postman can't tell the source of the letter, even though the letter was written by husband's own hand. But then the insane man comes out and the husband assumes the postman is the one sending the letters, so he slays him. Then he returns home as his wife is about to put away the letter she forgot. The mad man tells the wife that she has been unfaithful. He slays her without any time for contemplation. Then he reads the letter. It restores his memory. He returns to normal and rushes into his den and finds an unfinished letter he had been writing. After cursing himself for his insanity and false claims, he slays himself beside his wife. That is the end.

That was " The Rite of Death at Mookshire Cove ".

Any thoughts?

Wow, I guess not many fans of tragedy.

Anyways, this is the first real piece I performed publicly. Remember this is from age 6, so it isn't that great.

Theme and Variations like earlier Mozart.

No many people around here for comment. =<

The demon is the other personality of the man? And what the letters says that restore his memory? What is the sweet quality that cause the tragedy? That he loves her so much or the letters that he writes show his love for her?

I'm sorry. I tell terrible summaries. His other personality's quality is that he doesn't hide his feelings of love. The demon inside sends the anonymous letters, and afterward he returns to normal but amnesia like symptoms keep him from knowing who wrote the letters, even though they came from his own hand. As he goes insane he becomes crazed and he kills the postman and the woman he loves because he senses unfaithfulness on her part. Afterward he reads through the letter for justification. He remembers writing what was in that letter. He returns to normal and finds other letters that were unfinished. He knows now that he has killed his life's desire by false claims, so he ends himself.... Creepy.

There is an element I'm leaving out that would make this more clear, but the tragedy has a twist. What makes the man go insane ?

This came to me in a dream. You would probably prefer the full story to my useless summary. I will post it when its finished.

I hope this clears things up. If not, summarize the plot back to me and I can tell you if my vision is clear.

On Russian Lullaby, the melody is very reminiscent of Rachmaninof, but you're use of the piano is so boring compared to his. Thicken the harmonies and make use of the full range of the piano to give it more range of emotion, texture, and dynamic.

I meant to mention this earlier, but that was just a sketch. I came up with those themes and plopped them into a basic song form. It took about thirty minutes to come up with the themes and write them out for this initial posting. I am writing this as a Piano Concerto in the style of Rachmaninof, so you really got the most important view of what it was supposed to be. I'm working on the second movement, Allegro ma non troppo.

The name of the lullaby will be changed to Andante.

Thanks for the feedback.

Also, would you listen to the Concertante Overture?
I iniatialy thought it was in the stlye of earlier Liszt, but I realized a little bit of classical mood in it. It took even less time than the lullaby. A sketch for later. What do you think ?

By the way, beautiful use of strings in that post. That really is my field. I would like you to know that I am a serious composer. I sell my fully finished products. This is the summary from my career.

I started violin at age 6. I took on the cello at age 8. I worked on playing the viola at age 10. Now I play violin in my state orchestra. I also play cello in a Mozart tribute string quartet. I give pianoforte concerts around the east coast now and I travel with my family alot to perform in string groups. To date, I have written just under 400 pieces for string quartet, 13 symphonies ( working on one) , 17 waltzes, 9 concert overtures, and about 300 other piano pieces. I'm only 16.

This is just my way of showing you that I know what I'm talking about. You have talent and real potential. I'm not trying to brag. I know how unattractive that is. I am really mad at myself for writing so little. I really appreciate meeting a composer that shares my enthusiasm for music.


I'm about to load my string quartets.

It might take a few days to do since I really can't just put them all up here.

Honestly, I'm not really a student of Liszt, but I'll give you some pointers on your use of Classical style, and I'm posting a MUS with some of the changes I would make.

Good use of perpetual eighth notes to create a melody in the classical style. Good use of thin harmonies. First problem I notice is the parallel octaves in the cadence at measure 8. In the next section, good use of imitation. However, I don't really like how you added the rhythmic motif from the first section at the end of each imitation in the second section, so I tried to take that out to clean it up a bit. I also just stuck in a couple things that I thought would give it some interest. Lastly, in the third section the final cadence doesn't build or flow as well as it could. I made some changes that I think could help it build but I think you should work on making it flow a little better. See what you think.

I meant to mention this earlier, but that was just a sketch. I came up with those themes and plopped them into a basic song form. It took about thirty minutes to come up with the themes and write them out for this initial posting. I am writing this as a Piano Concerto in the style of Rachmaninof, so you really got the most important view of what it was supposed to be. I'm working on the second movement, Allegro ma non troppo.

The name of the lullaby will be changed to Andante.

Thanks for the feedback.

Also, would you listen to the Concertante Overture?
I iniatialy thought it was in the stlye of earlier Liszt, but I realized a little bit of classical mood in it. It took even less time than the lullaby. A sketch for later. What do you think ?

By the way, beautiful use of strings in that post. That really is my field. I would like you to know that I am a serious composer. I sell my fully finished products. This is the summary from my career.

I started violin at age 6. I took on the cello at age 8. I worked on playing the viola at age 10. Now I play violin in my state orchestra. I also play cello in a Mozart tribute string quartet. I give pianoforte concerts around the east coast now and I travel with my family alot to perform in string groups. To date, I have written just under 400 pieces for string quartet, 13 symphonies ( working on one) , 17 waltzes, 9 concert overtures, and about 300 other piano pieces. I'm only 16.

This is just my way of showing you that I know what I'm talking about. You have talent and real potential. I'm not trying to brag. I know how unattractive that is. I am really mad at myself for writing so little. I really appreciate meeting a composer that shares my enthusiasm for music.


I'm about to load my string quartets.

It might take a few days to do since I really can't just put them all up here.


I'm not trying to brag.

Except... no matter how I look at this post, it literally breems with hubris and self-importance. <_< No one challenged your credentials at all, so is of this really necessary? Was it really necessary to stress your myriad of supposed accomplishments at such a young age? That you are a "serious composer" who "sells [his] fully finished products"? Hmm, I say.

You know what, Shizeet ?
You are right.
I congratulate you for challenging me.
I realize now that I have been a bit full of myself.
I should have asked myself why anybody else would care.
I am here to give advice, not to brag.
I will take down everything I have said about myself.
You know what ?
MaestroOfTragedy will perhaps even be taking a permanent vacation from Ichigo's.
Those I have helped will know that Shizeet has reminded me of how arrogant I may have been. Thank him.
I just meant that I have a lot of experience as a composer.
I'll tell you how I stretched the truth.
I have sold about 25 out of all my pieces.
They were mostly performed at weddings.
Only four of my symphonies have been performed publicly.
Most of my works are only sketches.
The waltzes have not yet been through copyrights.
Some of my string quartets are performed after my Mozart concerts.
Some of my piano music has been published by a small-town paper office.
Some of my plays were performed at my school and recognized as strong works, though I am an independent.

All of my instrumental experience is true.
My father is a concert musician, as is my mother.
I join them in concert.

As for MaestroOfTragedy, he will be taking a break from Ichigos for one week.
Shizeet, ask for people to come here and vote if I should leave or if I shouldn't.

I apologize for anything I might have said that you thought was a bold lie.

Farewell, perhaps.

No, stop being such a drama-musician, jeez! Just tone down the defensive attitude and the ego a bit and be a normal person! You don't need to prove yourself to us, nor do we have to prove ourselves to you. Stay, and we can give you advice and you can continue to give your own. However, you should know that we have our own threads and instead of posting your own thread for people to ask for advice on, you should have stuck with the advice thread already made and left constructive criticism on peoples' own threads (and you still should). It makes it far less belittling to them.

So basically, we forgive you, but just tone it down a bit.

Just stop of being presumptuous. People don't like it and I doubt people will care much of you saying "I have done this quantity of works" or "I started from a very early age". Most of your posts shows you wanting to tell people that you are "great" and have done lots of music and that you are very experienced composer. I have over 2gbs of music, lots of sketches, lots of short works, and I am sure no one will care. Also saying those high number of opus sounds very unreal. Unless you are making lots very short works.

I am sure no one have nothing against you here. But if you stop of being presumptuous, will be good.

Also, Keep a look at the future competition here! The more participant the better! ;) :D

I realize now that I have been a bit full of myself.
Good. Nothing's wrong with having a healthy narcissist elitism. Just be careful about what you boast about and how much you do it.


MaestroOfTragedy will perhaps even be taking a permanent vacation from Ichigo's.
Those I have helped will know that Shizeet has reminded me of how arrogant I may have been. Thank him.
Now that's being Egotistical. A cooldown isn't such a bad idea for ya at this point.


I just meant that I have a lot of experience as a composer.
I'll tell you how I stretched the truth.
I have sold about 25 out of all my pieces.
They were mostly performed at weddings.
Only four of my symphonies have been performed publicly.
Most of my works are only sketches.
This is still an accomplishment, though I'd still like to see some hardcopies of it. Until I see that, I don't believe a bit of it. That's just the way I am.


The waltzes have not yet been through copyrights.
Everything's copyrighted the moment it's made. What you mean is licensed by a reseller, or licensed to a publisher.


All of my instrumental experience is true.
My father is a concert musician, as is my mother.
I join them in concert.

As for MaestroOfTragedy, he will be taking a break from Ichigos for one week.
Shizeet, ask for people to come here and vote if I should leave or if I shouldn't.

I apologize for anything I might have said that you thought was a bold lie.

Farewell, perhaps.


Again, I'd like to stress the fact that you are responsible for your own anger. You lied about what cards you had in your hand, and someone called you on it. That's all there is. That, my friend, leads people to dislike you here; though you can gain back your respect though your future actions.

Do as deathraider has said. Tone things down a bit. Let your reputation grow through your works, not by your mouth. Truly, I tell you, things will turn for the better.

Good. Nothing's wrong with having a healthy narcissist elitism. Just be careful about what you boast about and how much you do it.


LOL, I love how you put that...

You know what, Shizeet ?
You are right.
I congratulate you for challenging me.
I realize now that I have been a bit full of myself.
I should have asked myself why anybody else would care.
I am here to give advice, not to brag.
I will take down everything I have said about myself.
You know what ?
MaestroOfTragedy will perhaps even be taking a permanent vacation from Ichigo's.
Those I have helped will know that Shizeet has reminded me of how arrogant I may have been. Thank him.
I just meant that I have a lot of experience as a composer.


If you simply wish to prove your experience, it'd be a lot more convincing and humble if you simply show that through action, not words. The level of detail that you've described your accomplishments lead me to believe that they're more true than not, but the fact that you also listed said accomplishments unsolicited makes you out to be very defensive and perhaps even lacking in self-confidence somewhat.

Also, while I do commend you having helped a few others in their compositions, the fact that you've actually made a thread about it seems kind of egotistical to me. To me, it almost gives off the impression of you being the "professor" holding office hours for the rest of us "students." Why can't you just follow the convention like the rest of us, and simply post your comments/suggestions on other's threads?


I'll tell you how I stretched the truth.
I have sold about 25 out of all my pieces.
They were mostly performed at weddings.
Only four of my symphonies have been performed publicly.
Most of my works are only sketches.
The waltzes have not yet been through copyrights.
Some of my string quartets are performed after my Mozart concerts.
Some of my piano music has been published by a small-town paper office.
Some of my plays were performed at my school and recognized as strong works, though I am an independent.

All of my instrumental experience is true.
My father is a concert musician, as is my mother.
I join them in concert.

Again, this is totally unnecessary. You seem to have trouble seperating the ego from the music - try alternatively to think the role of the composer as less a generator or creator of music and more of a transport or channelor of music. Music before the man.


As for MaestroOfTragedy, he will be taking a break from Ichigos for one week.
Shizeet, ask for people to come here and vote if I should leave or if I shouldn't.

I apologize for anything I might have said that you thought was a bold lie.

Farewell, perhaps.

Heh, we don't have mob rule here - though if you piss if a mod or admin they'll certainly won't hold back against you ;). Well, cool your head a bit, and maybe this will make a bit more sense.

I think we can stop now because basically we have all said the same things to him.

Indeed. Let's take a leave from this issue, and wipe the slates clean for him. I'm certain something was learned from this.

I was looking forward to responding...But everything has already been said. I'm somewhat dissipointed now. :(

uhh...i was gonna comment on music? but then the topic changed... =.="
come on guys wat's with all this drama? i think the best part of being online is that no one can judge you by your appearance, age, accent, gender, etc. why expose yourself? for all everyone on this forum may know, i can be a 4 year old prodigy or a 150 year old geezer. that's the fun in it xD

I was getting tired of him, too. If he wants to be the expert, why isn't he somewhere more appropriate for what he says he is? I still could use some help, but you guys out there are what I need. Feedback from strangers. Not some built up kid that thinks he's an equal of Beethoven.

Anybody follow me? I'll start a post soon of my stuff. I don't know what to think of it. Help if you want.

Do you think the Maestro is gone for good?