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JL2013
October 12th, 2008, 05:10 pm
I did this myself and I want to know how others think of it. Be as critical as you want...


updated!!

BigZenigata
October 13th, 2008, 05:54 am
Hmm well I don't want to be critical perse, but I'll throw my 2cents in.

It sounded like it was taking 4 note samples from a college practice corridor before two concerts. It was "messy" in feel and there didn't seem to be any really progression or feeling of movement. Now, I'm one for creating random melodies or ideas/motifs on a piano... but this was just a little too random for my tastes.

This is going to sound rather "from the book", but try writing out some sort of chord progression first or start with a simple melody idea and fiddle around with variations on it. It might not create what you want perse, but I find going back to the ol' chorale type of composition occassionally gets my brain to know where I want my ideas to go (lest they become a jumbled mess).

No offense here, just trying to throw ideas around. The piece itself didn't sound too thought out unless that was the intention (modern composers good grief!). It starts out with a major sound like some sort of Mozart piece, but then goes into a wierd minor sound and...there's some downward run thing... erm... well that's where you lose me. The end sounded somewhat good again like that Mozart/Beethoven feel I mentioned earlier, but it just ended with no cadence. Felt really open.

Others could probably give you better suggestions than I can... so don't get discouraged. This composing thing ain't easy.

PorscheGTIII
October 13th, 2008, 05:39 pm
Hmm well I don't want to be critical perse, but I'll throw my 2cents in.

It sounded like it was taking 4 note samples from a college practice corridor before two concerts. It was "messy" in feel and there didn't seem to be any really progression or feeling of movement. Now, I'm one for creating random melodies or ideas/motifs on a piano... but this was just a little too random for my tastes.

This is going to sound rather "from the book", but try writing out some sort of chord progression first or start with a simple melody idea and fiddle around with variations on it. It might not create what you want perse, but I find going back to the ol' chorale type of composition occassionally gets my brain to know where I want my ideas to go (lest they become a jumbled mess).

No offense here, just trying to throw ideas around. The piece itself didn't sound too thought out unless that was the intention (modern composers good grief!). It starts out with a major sound like some sort of Mozart piece, but then goes into a wierd minor sound and...there's some downward run thing... erm... well that's where you lose me. The end sounded somewhat good again like that Mozart/Beethoven feel I mentioned earlier, but it just ended with no cadence. Felt really open.

Others could probably give you better suggestions than I can... so don't get discouraged. This composing thing ain't easy.

Very well said. I suggest looking at these posts...
http://forums.ichigos.com/showpost.php?p=367514&postcount=2
http://forums.ichigos.com/showpost.php?p=367706&postcount=8
http://forums.ichigos.com/showpost.php?p=368090&postcount=17

clarinetist
October 16th, 2008, 09:57 pm
In my opinion, switching into that "minor sound" could be appropriate; however, one has to pay attention to the chord-ing, e.g. meas. 7: you put an A minor chord in the bass, and then there's a Db. If I were to do something like this, I would put a dissonance in the first chord, and somewhat resolve it at the second note; you did the exact opposite... Then you put in a few eighth notes which hint at G minor, and, the tritone of G happens to be Db, so it didn't work so well. I'm not saying that using tritones is bad, but how you approached that G minor key change wasn't too great, in my opinion. The ending could have been better if you put a few more pedal tones.

Otherwise, I agree with what BigZenigata said. (Not trying to discourage you, but you may want to stay in one key for now.)