View Full Version : Grr! Why is it so hard to write a song in 9/8?
Gnomish
September 20th, 2004, 06:09 am
I've tried many times to write a song in 9/8 but I end up messing up the phrasing or accidentally changing it into 12/8 without realizing until I'm done... :P Why is this time sig. so hard to write in? Is it just me? Or am I not alone? :)
12/8 and 6/8 are so simple... so why is 9/8 so ridiculously hard? @_@
Archangel
September 20th, 2004, 06:59 am
there is such thing as 9/8? woah, i'm totally sheltered from music theory then cause i'm so use to 4/4 and 2/4 and all those basic ones.....
Al
September 20th, 2004, 11:16 am
I divide 9/8 by 3 . . . so 3 times 3/8, try to think of that to help you. 12/8 is easier because it's 4 times 3/8, which is more even and balanced in terms of phrasing.
EDIT: I remember playing a short piano piece by Beethoven in 9/8 or 12/8 :think: in any case, it's good to look up other songs written in that time signature.
M
September 21st, 2004, 01:29 pm
wow! 9/8 is a very hard signiture to write in, maninly because it is an abnormal signiture... I commend anyone who can write a piece in this time!
Gnomish
September 21st, 2004, 02:34 pm
Which beats are accented? All 3...? :P Or just the 1st? ... Seems a bit unmathematical compared to the other time sigs.
Al
September 21st, 2004, 04:25 pm
=P beat 1 is the strongest, but you can also accent beats 4 and 7 . . . think of it in terms of 3/4 time with triplets.
Noir7
September 21st, 2004, 04:47 pm
I've always been avoiding key signature changes, so could you give a sample song (that normal people like me know of) as a demonstration?
Sephiroth
September 21st, 2004, 05:06 pm
X_X wow im ltotally lost................al this 12/3 and that is the tempo that is always at the start of the sheet music .............is that right :think:
I jus play music i dont know the complexity of things like that @_@
Elite666
September 21st, 2004, 05:45 pm
Sephiroth, to the best of my knowledge 12/3 doesn't exist.
Anyway Gnomish, you should just think of it like 3/4 using triplets. However, I can't think of too many songs off the top of my head that use it so I can't give you an example but you may be better off using 6/8 or 12/8 unless you really need the triple meter feel.
Alphonse is right about the accents. Like 3/4 the first is the strongest. Since it subdivides into triplets the beginning of each triplet may also be slightly accented but the first beat is the strongest.
Sephiroth
September 21st, 2004, 05:50 pm
yea i meant to say 12/8 but well like i was trying to say i know nothing about it...........................maybe i should just shut up as im no help to this thread :(
Plod
September 22nd, 2004, 05:12 am
Originally posted by Mies@Sep 21 2004, 08:29 AM
wow! 9/8 is a very hard signiture to write in, maninly because it is an abnormal signiture... I commend anyone who can write a piece in this time!
Would anybody like to take up this challenge?
I've never written in 9/8, nor have I heard anything written in it.
TrumpetPLaya42
September 28th, 2004, 04:15 am
Err... Try looking at my song Ojoyous on "my first composition" forum. I didn't really think about writing it in 9/8, but it seems right. :think: There seemed to be something missing cause I thought about doing it in triplets in 4/4 and it didn't work. Mebbe you could adapt the melody into 9/8, phaps?
Jujemu
September 29th, 2004, 09:45 pm
aside: speaking of unconventional meters.. Shawn Lane (http://www.shawnlane.com) composed a song called "tri 7/5". It's cool. ^.^
Liquid Feet
October 29th, 2004, 03:20 am
Al actually gave you a good piece of advice; I always think of 9/8 as 3/4 with triplets. I personally found 9/8 to be easy, however, 5/4 5/8 7/4 7/8 are extremely difficult for me; I never composed anything in those before because they are such irregular meter signatures. I do know how to play a song in 5/4 though, which is a start.
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