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Taemond
March 8th, 2009, 11:56 am
Hi all, here I am going to list all of the compositions I have made (or to be made). Please feel free to comment and suggest how I could improve or change some pieces or any helpful idea's on how to improve future compositions.

Pieces so far,

Myriad Mysteries - Flute Duet

Day of Subsist - Oboe

Regal Milieu - Flute


Also, feel free to use these for...well...anything, if they're good enough (which I'm guessing they might not be for a longgggg time), but remember, all credit goes to me :) (do I sound up-myself here?, I don't mean to be :lol:)

Taemond
March 8th, 2009, 11:56 am
Just had to post a reply to fit the last one on.

tehwoodwindking
March 8th, 2009, 03:55 pm
Just had to post a reply to fit the last one on.

your compositions are strange in my opinion they are different and I like that, however some parts of ur pieces are a tad difficult and will take alot of practice to be able to be played, (I play flute and oboe). You also have to get some theory training. Stick with composing it takes a long time to get good.

Taemond
March 9th, 2009, 12:43 am
I was try to aim at something different, but a good different. I just need some more practice:heh: But I don't find these too hard to play, some bits on the oboe I stumble over but all in all its okay. And my flute pieces I find to be pretty straightforward; what I'm trying to say is that they aren't a problem to play and I find them quite easy (I hate saying stuff like this cause it makes me sound like an egotistic idiot<_<). But thanks for notifying me about the difficulty, I'm kinda one for difficult pieces, I like a challenge:shifty:

PorscheGTIII
March 12th, 2009, 12:03 am
:no:

No. This just doesn't work. There's no phrasing, the voices cross too much, and they lack interest.

Phrasing! You need to read up on your Melodic Contour and Organization. Let's take a look at Ravel's "Bolero." In this melody, we can easily hear that it can be divided into smaller sections like from the beginning of measure one to the tie on the second beat of measure two. This section is one phrase of the entire melody. When I listen to your composition, I hear no such organization which is key to writing a melody that people want to listen to. If the melody can be cut up, it makes sense and therefore people want to listen to it.

OK, so what about more modern composition? Melodies become more subjective in this sense BUT if we look closely, we can still see/hear the presence of phrasing in them. For example, let's take a look at Rachmaninoff's "Second Piano Concerto." From first glance, it may be hard to spot some of the common elements that make up a melody in a theory sense, but we can still find them! We can find cadences and phrases.

In your compositions, my ear has a hard time finding these common elements which is why I have jumped on them saying I dislike them. Melodies are expressive and should convey emotions which can be done in many many ways. You need to figure these things out to improve the quality of your composing.

We'll start off with that. Keep at it. ;)

Milchh
March 12th, 2009, 01:54 am
(It's funny that you both used the main themes from the Paris Season of Nodame Cantabile. XD)

Yes, I would HIGHLY suggest you listen to a lot of Rachmaninoff and Ravel; they're definitely the kings of flowing lines. I would also look into Rimsky-Korsakov, Chopin, Liszt and Wagner too!

Taemond
March 12th, 2009, 08:15 am
Thanks for your comments, I really have trouble composing (comes with my absolutely terrible ear for music), but I want to learn how and enjoy it, so ALL help is appreciated, I thank you Porsche for been honest saying that you didn't like them; I mean, whats the point of making something that people won't listen to. I'll definitely keep at it though, I get all these great ideas and song playing in my head, I just can't get them down on paper because I can't identify the notes (and because of my terrible ear, I can't tell when notes are the same a lot of the time, so its kinda hard to write down what I'm hearing in my head).

P.S. Quote from Mazeppa (It's funny that you both used the main themes from the Paris Season of Nodame Cantabile. )

Lol, I did?

Oh, one more thing, I don't really like a lot of modern compositions (I'm more into the baroque, tradition and even earlier music). So I would like to learn more about those then newer ones.

Also Porsche, I think I know what you mean by phrasing, but I actually like music that doesn't fit into any certain 'phrases' (yeah I know, odd, but that's me:lol:) I also don't like 'cutting up' music and prefer to listen to the piece as a whole rather than in sections, but that's just me.

Anyway, thanks all for your comments (I might compose something worth listening to someday :\)

Edit: Also like to add that I don't listen to music because of the joy of listening to well, a nice arrangement of notes that sound nice (this is kinda tricky to describe), I actually listen to music for the atmosphere and feel it creates, for example, if its raining outside, I'll listen to a mysterious, sad kind of song because it fits the atmosphere and that's what I like, its not the actually music I like, its just the atmosphere around it, I also can't listen to a happy, feel-good song you might find at the end of a movie when its raining, because it doesn't fit the atmosphere, and I become uninterested in the song, even if its one of my all-time favourites.

Al
March 15th, 2009, 02:40 am
It's refreshing to see someone take constructive criticism so well. Don't worry, just keep trying your best and we'll help you out.

If you have trouble getting the notes down on paper, maybe you can record yourself playing on the flute or on another instrument you might play (even sing if you have to). Then you can take the time to figure out the notes (or find a friend who's willing). Either way, it'd be a shame to lose the ideas you've got in your head.

You like earlier music? Then you should study compositions from that time period more, because it's got some pieces with great phrasing.

Taemond
March 25th, 2009, 07:02 am
Hi all, I've been working on my compositions and I've come up with another. Its still a work in progress as it is only the intro for a larger piece I'm planning. Please comment and leave suggestions on how to improve it.

Taemond
March 27th, 2009, 12:48 pm
G'day all again, just posting another composition I came up with (still yet to decide on a name for it though).

deathraider
March 27th, 2009, 05:13 pm
I think you're harmonies are pretty cool in this piece; I really liked a few of the ideas. I think you need to rework some of them, though, to make sure you resolve every now and then. Also, after :46 some of the chord progressions don't work, so check that over.