its all there..

is being a musician that tough or what?:\

Tough to get yourself on track when you're just starting, no matter the age.
Tough to keep going: keep practicing, keep spending more than two hours on the instrument per day, and sometimes even more on occasions. A lot of people give up after the rush of excitement is over.

Once you get over that stage, everything just flows and it becomes a routine. Eventually, it because so much a part of you, you just can't live without it.

If you mean having music as a career and making livings as a musician, then I must tell you that nothing is easy. Every career has its hardships and therefore of course being a musician is difficult, but it shouldn't matter if one is passionate of his/her arts.

It can't be summed up. I am sorry.

It depends, really.

You have to ask more specific questions. Your question basically asks, "If being a person who is a lover of music really that though?"

Do you mean: Teaching? Performing? (What kind of performing or even teaching?) Composing? Recording? What KIND of music do you want to get into? etc. etc.

There's too much of an open field for ANYONE to give an answer thus far. Think it over.

It also depends on the instrument you play. If you want to join a major orchestra like the berlin philharmonic then it's like auditioning agianst the worlds best. Being a world class pianist is also hard.

Making a living is harder now IMO.

in general, if you aim to be the best, it is difficult. However, that doesn't mean all music is. I would suggest thinking about how far you want to take music. SOmetimes, it's not as hard as people say XD

And how would you know how to be successful, yet not very popular? Sorry, it just doesn't work that way.

If you're aiming to be a performing musician as your JOB and the only way of your income, then you have to be in demand. Either your manager will be able to book you for hundreds (And I mean up to 150/yr.) for maybe $1,500/concert (then fees after that) which would get you about $800 in pocket. Do the math. And also, notice how many concerts you'll be doing.

You guys just don't understand the point; who really thinks that they have a huge chance to get into the performance world? Realistically, the biggest talent in the world only has as much chance as the least talented. It's all about connections, and it's all about people who like to see and hear you play. If you're in demand, and many people think your God, (just look at Lang-Lang; do you REALLY think he's some great young artist?) then you'll be making a nice career for yourself.

Performing musicians (solo) do not make a hunk of money per concert when they first start out. As mentioned, you may only take a net pay of $800. After that, it's up to how many more connections you get and how much popularity you get with people falling in love with you, your playing and your personality. Being a solo musician (pianist, violinist, etc.) is incredibly hard. How many "great" solo violinists/pianists can you name? You may think there's a LOAD of them, but try and count how many pianists or violinists that have graduated music schools. I would guess for the artist:graduate ratio would be approx. 1:5,000

I am guessing this is what you meant, performing musician. And remember, I am not trying to discourage you, but to give you the hard facts. People say, "Oh, it's hard." But they don't know what 'competitive' means until you put everything in perspective. You have to be an amazing musician to even get to the part of "extremely difficult and competitive" and then you have to go beyond that to raise your our salary, and to mark up your calendar with all those concerts your manager is giving you.

It's hard. Extremely HARD. I would never tell someone to reconsider, but to simply think what they want out of life and RESEARCH IT. This is a good step. Good day, sir.

Let me jump in as well. :p

Do you really have to have a degree in music to be able to be a good musician?
Or say, a 'decent' one?

@Mazeppa: there are other options other than going as a solo performer (except if you're a pianist). I agree that if you want to become a soloist, yes it is insanely difficult to be a good one.
@azurewings: if you're going for any decent music position, most likely. THere are some exceptions. For example, I know a couple of kids who already have performing careers who have yet to finish high school. But then again, they are really really good violinists.

@that1player--


If you're aiming to be a performing musician...

I know there are other ways, but as I quoted myself above I was giving what you would most likely need to do to be a performing musician.

@azurewings-- The degree doesn't make you the musician, the education does.

-.- correct me if i'm wrong but orchestra member is a form of performance musician is it not? That's what i was referring to.

its all there..

is being a musician that tough or what?:\

Yes, being a musician is hard. Quit!
Quit now while you still can!

Yes, being a musician is hard. Quit!
Quit now while you still can!

llol. quit?! no way.. just wondering.. i've never think of being a performer. Just wanna be a good repertoir. i'm still training myself..


You have to ask more specific questions. Your question basically asks, "If being a person who is a lover of music really that though?".

So is it tough?
You know sometimes you play a hundred times and you still dont get that part right. IT REALLY PISSES ME OFFFF!!
talking about education. i've been thinking to further my music in austria. :think:

make a living outta music is what i though of. maybe teaching or something like that.



gonna reedit the whole thing. :) class is staring.

It never matters how many times you play it, it's how you practice it; if you do it the correct way, you'll most likely cut 40% of the time and you WILL end up mastering that passage.

You have to grow up with music. First you learn to walk then to run. Step by step, you cannot pretend playing trascendental etude if you're just starting to play the piano.

And by that I'm sure he means completely the technical side of things.

>.< You guys have to burst my bubble. I'm trying to choose between music and art for my future(even though I still have a long way to go XD).
..I...am going to post more later...since I have to go now...XD

XD And now that I'm back...
Well, I compose some of my own music(on the piano) but it would probably be way to simple to even consider a song>.<...and I also write some of my own songs(worded)...
If you take it step by step it shouldn't be too hard...is it:cry:?

simple or what, it doesn't matter...(sry using my ps3)

what really important is, for the audience to enjoy your music.. not only that of course... if you're cmposing, you should try putting your feelings... not your efforts.

simple or what, it doesn't matter...

what really importtant is, for the audience to enjoy your music.. not only that of course... if you're cmposing, you should try putting your feelings... not your efforts.

Ignore that comment.

yep ignore that "post"

EDIT; I don't even know what I'm saying.
XD

...so should I go with simple is fine or ignore both of you:P?

^ what do you mean?

your the one who should choose little fella!

...so should I go with simple is fine or ignore both of you:P?

Take a look or hear Mozart Menuet K1, then his sonata in C major K545 and in the end his Rondo in A minor KV511. They're in chronological order and you can easily understand from this that you have to grow up with your music. Just continue and you will notice that your compositions will get more complex with time, like Mozart's compositions. The only difference is that he started composing when he was 6. :)

...grow up...with my music? Um...in depth explanation please?

your music will grow as you play..? or is it from simple(young) to complicated(old) compositions?

It's not THAT simple. Basically, as you mature as a musician so does your understanding of music. The more experienced you are, the more "growing" you've done.

That...is logical...:D