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Alone
October 5th, 2004, 02:30 pm
do you consider yourself to be an otaku, and what are your feelings toward them?
( :sweatdrop: 'feelings toward them'... i got improve my english fast-can someone tell me the correct way to say this)

Neko Koneko
October 5th, 2004, 02:53 pm
Otaku are stupid people who should get a life instead of being overly obsessed by something like anime. They disgust me.

In case you don't know, the word Otaku actually is a very negative word and it means something like "overly obsessed fanboy"

Fanboys are annoying, but otaku are the worst, especially when they are proud of the fact that they are one.

Alone
October 5th, 2004, 02:59 pm
whoa... isnt otaku a respectful word which refers to people who read like 20000words of manga a week, and are up to date in anime...?

fanboys are the ones that spend money on everything anime connected and go to anime-pop-singer-concerts and stuff, arent they?

Neko Koneko
October 5th, 2004, 03:00 pm
No, otaku is the Japanese word for someone who's overly obsessed with something, could be anything. Anime-otaku, car-otaku, you name it =P

Basically it's a very negative word, lol.

Alone
October 5th, 2004, 03:05 pm
oh :( damn messed up...

well... everyone anwser anyway:

im not sure...no!!im not an otaku... i just like some anime - nothing more and i consider people who cosplay to much, who try to be like anime characters and spend way too much money are just plain stupid...

Noir7
October 5th, 2004, 04:45 pm
I don't mind people who are obsessive with anime, but the annoying thing about them is that they try to spread it.

Yoshinobu
October 5th, 2004, 04:50 pm
I find the fact that anime fans take an offensive word from the Japanese language, then turn it into a term to address anime fans kind of funny. I think obsessive otaku are annoying, but really, maybe they're like that because they haven't yet found another reason to live yet? We all have to have something to hold onto, and maybe anime/manga is the only thing that otaku have.
OK, I realized this post made next to no sense. You should probably just ignore it. I'm tired and talking out of something which isn't my mouth.

Sinbios
October 5th, 2004, 10:04 pm
anyone who refers to themselves as otaku are complete retards who really don't know anything. the word otaku is the japanese equivilent of english words such as "queer" and "freak", and very derogative.

Nightmare
October 6th, 2004, 12:37 am
Angelic, you seem to have such a problem with fanboys. You stereotype them all as people who are annoying and constantly talk about their favorite anime. I find nothing wrong with an obsession over something, as long as its not ruining their lives, or bothering anyone else's. And it happens that not all fanboys or fangirls rave on to others about their favorite anime everywhere everday, but I'm sure they will defend it if present by people who hate it.

Let me enlighten you, just because your a fanboy or a fangirl does not make you a retard, nor does it make one stupid (ignorant is probaly the word your looking for, and they aren't always that either). And just because your a fanboy or a fangirl does not mean you'll talk about the anime over and over and over. So, please go easy on these people (no, I'm not a fanboy), I believe they don't deserve to be flamed until they actually do something stupid, aside from your view of liking an anime a lot. That's not just for anime fanboys, but otaku's as well.

Neko Koneko
October 6th, 2004, 08:12 am
Nightmare, a fanboy is just what I described. What you talk about is a normal fan. Fanboys are annoying, fans aren't.

You enlighten me? Lol, don't make me laugh, you don't even know what you're talking about.

Alone
October 6th, 2004, 09:12 am
stop it damn it...

however... Angelic, at the "eva overrated" topic you said something like *waits for eva fanboys to post*... who exactly do you consider an eva fanboy/girl on this forum? who does that definition refer to? (the one on top)

Neko Koneko
October 6th, 2004, 09:21 am
Originally posted by alone@Oct 6 2004, 11:12 AM
stop it damn it...

however... Angelic, at the "eva overrated" topic you said something like *waits for eva fanboys to post*... who exactly do you consider an eva fanboy/girl on this forum? who does that definition refer to? (the one on top)
That comment was a bit sarcastic actually =P also a way of saying that a lot of people, and especially people who like eva, think the series is very deep and stuff (I think it's pretty shallow actually). I do think there are people on this forum who heavily overrate Eva but, that's their choice and not mine to make.

It's not as bad as I've seen. I've seen stuff like:


I've seen five episodes of Eva and I'm falling in love with Rei :wub: :wub: :wub: is that normal?

Alone
October 6th, 2004, 09:35 am
well...i still remember the "why guys like rei" topic =P

the only real eva fans that are left... me... Interlloper... Voltaeru maybe... probably no one else but none one on this list ever overrated eva (by saying that eva is a masterpiece or that its the best anime ever)

to link this to the topic: only otaku do that (upper line)

Neko Koneko
October 6th, 2004, 10:31 am
Not really, fanboys don't just say Eva is the best, they have to shout it out. OMG EVA OWNZ j00 SUCK CUZ U DONT LIKE EVA

stuff like that.

Alone
October 6th, 2004, 10:34 am
so who does that here?

Nightmare
October 6th, 2004, 10:34 am
Originally posted by Angelic@Oct 6 2004, 04:12 AM
Nightmare, a fanboy is just what I described. What you talk about is a normal fan. Fanboys are annoying, fans aren't.

You enlighten me? Lol, don't make me laugh, you don't even know what you're talking about.
Perhaps we have different defenitions of fanboy. I consider a fanboy one extremely obssesed with an anime or something. It would appear you consider one someone who likes it a lot AND his annoying. In any case, I do know what I'm talking about. People aren't stupid because they are annoying. You seem to imply that whatever type of person you dislike, they are stupid.

Alone
October 6th, 2004, 10:37 am
:( this thread should be renamed "gang-up on Angelic" :(

thats really fucked up...

Neko Koneko
October 6th, 2004, 10:39 am
Yeah, let's all attack me as always B)

I'll shut up, whatever I say people are offended by it anyway. Nightmare, I hate you. Goodbye ~

Alone
October 6th, 2004, 10:41 am
im not offended....

Dark Bring
October 6th, 2004, 10:42 am
Well, people do grow up.

Anyway, substituting the newer definition of "otaku" into older texts can be hilarious.

souma_hatsuharu
October 6th, 2004, 01:42 pm
a...i'm not otaku...but my japanese friends consider me as one...defined as anybody who loves anime and discusses about it. . .

wait a sec....that would make them one too~! but then again...they don't watch it anymore . .. er not as constant. . .err...i don't either...stupid...college. . . shoudl....DIE...cant spell and too lazy to delete and fix...see what the future of the world brings? mispellers and lazy ppl

Nightmare
October 6th, 2004, 06:05 pm
Originally posted by Angelic@Oct 6 2004, 06:39 AM
Yeah, let's all attack me as always B)

I'll shut up, whatever I say people are offended by it anyway. Nightmare, I hate you. Goodbye ~
As always? You attack people all the time, stop complaining when people get offended and say something. If you want for people to stop being offended, then stop saying offensive things. The fact that you hate me is no new news, more common knowledge if anything. With this in mind, saying that can only be used to start a fight.

I'm a bit annoyed with you, and upset, because a few of my friends are fanboys and fangirls of things, and they most certainly are not stupid, nor are they annoying. I haven't called you a single name the whole time I've been on this forum, or that I can recall, nor have I said hateful things to you on the forum (though I have expressed my feelings in a very appropiate manner.) And yet you come around saying how my friends are stupid (even if indirectly) and how I'm being mean to you, and attacking you, and how I am sooo offended.

Well, yes, I'm offended, no I'm not attacking you, I am trying to defend my friends and what I think is right, and go ahead and hate me, your brought it on yourself. I try to respect you, Angelic, and I've said this so many times, I think, but there are just times I feel I can't ignore the comments you make. Goodbye, does that mean your leaving the forum? I don't think that's likely for you to do, and I'm sure many of the people here wouldn't want that, so...I won't stop you, but its advisable you stay.

Noir7
October 6th, 2004, 08:25 pm
Originally posted by Sinbios Zefiris Ark@Oct 5 2004, 11:04 PM
anyone who refers to themselves as otaku are complete retards who really don't know anything. the word otaku is the japanese equivilent of english words such as "queer" and "freak", and very derogative.
Most anime fanboys and fangirls admit that they are "anime freaks" or "anime nerds" or something like that, so I think they do know what the word Otaku stands for. They're just too proud of it, I think.

Also, let's not start a personal fight here. This is a topic about a group of people, so it shouldn't be ruined because two peoples' opinions cross eachother. :)

Neko Koneko
October 6th, 2004, 09:27 pm
Originally posted by Nightmare@Oct 6 2004, 08:05 PM
As always? You attack people all the time, stop complaining when people get offended and say something. If you want for people to stop being offended, then stop saying offensive things. The fact that you hate me is no new news, more common knowledge if anything. With this in mind, saying that can only be used to start a fight.

I'm a bit annoyed with you, and upset, because a few of my friends are fanboys and fangirls of things, and they most certainly are not stupid, nor are they annoying. I haven't called you a single name the whole time I've been on this forum, or that I can recall, nor have I said hateful things to you on the forum (though I have expressed my feelings in a very appropiate manner.) And yet you come around saying how my friends are stupid (even if indirectly) and how I'm being mean to you, and attacking you, and how I am sooo offended.

Well, yes, I'm offended, no I'm not attacking you, I am trying to defend my friends and what I think is right, and go ahead and hate me, your brought it on yourself. I try to respect you, Angelic, and I've said this so many times, I think, but there are just times I feel I can't ignore the comments you make. Goodbye, does that mean your leaving the forum? I don't think that's likely for you to do, and I'm sure many of the people here wouldn't want that, so...I won't stop you, but its advisable you stay.
1) you write all those long posts but they really say nothing but a lot of bull poo
2) You clearly have the wrong definition of the word fanboy, fanboys are fanboys because they are annoying
3) when they are not annoying they are called fans
4) I'm tired of not being allowed to say my opinion while others are
5) I'm even more tired of having to put up with your endless blah-blah, the fact that you always misunderstand everything I say and the fact that you take everything the wrong way. And I'm not the only one who thinks like this, mind you.

Am I leaving Ichigos? I don't know, maybe I should, at the moment it's causing me more trouble than what I gain from it, I don't have the feeling anything I do lately is appreciated by the members. I try to get the RP going by asking for help and people say it's my fault it didn't work out, I came with the idea of unbanning some people which resulted in that little #$#@%$#@$ Haruno being an arse everywhere. I came with the idea of getting a new mod, which was Excel and from alot of members there was a lot of negative reactions even before she could even prove herself.

I can't do anything right around here, why should I stay in the first place?

Nightmare
October 6th, 2004, 09:44 pm
1. Maybe to you, since you couldn't give a shit about me.
2 and 3. Whatever you say, its still wrong to call them stupid and such.
4. Speak your heart out, just don't flame people. Its not that hard.
5. I'm sick of you constantly saying stuff that bothers me, then trying to explain how right you are, and making the other person look as bad as you can. And I'm not the only one who thinks like this, mind you.

There, short and sweet. Lets drop the arguement. There's no point in arguing, say what you want. I can't help it if I misunderstand your behavior, but I try not to, and I try not to be offended, and try to see the light in all of it. I'm sorry I fail and have a problem understanding it, but that's who I am. So please, can we just drop it? Or take it through pm (as in, you respond to my pm?)

Noir7
October 6th, 2004, 09:48 pm
Yeah, do the fighting over PM and leave this thread for its real topic. It&#39;s just going to be you guys fighting, and then someone will lock it. I hope you guys can get along, and do the discussion over PM, MSN or something else. Nonetheless, this is the wrong thread for you guys fighting. <_<

Akayama Kaoru
October 7th, 2004, 01:16 am
Heh. I&#39;m not really an "otaku" ... I mean, I guess I&#39;m as bad as one when it comes to anime obsession, but I like other stuff too, like harry potter and lord of the rings and stuff. And I don&#39;t force/spread the obsession onto everyone else. I just seek out people who already like it ^.^x

Not all of them are retards...some of them can be intelligent, and they can&#39;t all be very bad. If they say "EVA OWNS j00 YOU SUCK FOR NOT LIKING EVA" or whatever it was, I just point and laugh at them and say "YEAH&#33; THAT&#39;S RIGHT&#33; We live in a country where only your opinion matters&#33; FUWAHAHA&#33;" and walk away. (Although I do like Eva.)

So, yeah, it depends on the person...don&#39;t stereotype them all...that&#39;s what the anti-anime fans do to the less-obsessive fans, even. Stereotype. Stereotype. Bleah. Hope I didn&#39;t offend anyone. Just stating my opinion. Although most anime fans, if not nearly all, that I meet, are really nice people who are enjoyable to talk to, no matter how obsessive they are. And if I don&#39;t like something they do, hey, maybe they&#39;ll get me into it eventually by saying how great it is. *shrug*

But maybe this post was just stupid. Ah, well. (Again, I pray I didn&#39;t offend a soul...)

Sinbios
October 7th, 2004, 08:59 pm
Originally posted by Akayama Kaoru@Oct 7 2004, 01:16 AM
Not all of them are retards...some of them can be intelligent, and they can&#39;t all be very bad.
i didn&#39;t mean otaku are stupid, just that people who don&#39;t know its meaning and usage toss it around and wear it like a badge, as if it denotes their devotion to anime are. an otaku is an obsessive outcast. heck, we use the term "freak" when joking around, but you do not call someone an otaku to joke around. it&#39;s more like "loser".

Akayama Kaoru
October 8th, 2004, 01:31 am
(Yes&#33; I didn&#39;t offend anyone&#33; Woo-hoo&#33;)

Hm, so I guess the Japanese word "otaku" is what we would said a "nerd" over here...?

I guess I still have a lot more to learn. Fan and Otaku are two very DRASTICALLY different words that should be used more wisely. *nods*

Alone
October 11th, 2004, 08:14 am
the reason why i first thought that it was a honorable title for an anime/manga fan was because i read it in an article in my local russian anime magazine... assholes, dont even know what theyre talking about <.<

Edwin
October 22nd, 2004, 08:43 am
Speaking of "otaku"... (http://somethingpositive.net/sp10172004.shtml) ^_^
(Warning: Strong language. Viewer discretion advised.)

xsakurax
November 6th, 2004, 12:42 am
just a naruto fan.....not otaku

Soconfused
November 6th, 2004, 06:20 pm
I think Angelic is just trying to cover up the fact that he&#39;s a super anime Otaku and is Downloading massive amonts of anime as we speak while lamenating his Card Captor Sakura posters so they don&#39;t get all ckinkly. :D

as for me, I acually don&#39;t watch enough anime to even be much of a fan of it anymore, but I do read a good amount of manga.

Neko Koneko
November 6th, 2004, 10:36 pm
Originally posted by Khalli@Nov 6 2004, 08:20 PM
I think Angelic is just trying to cover up the fact that he&#39;s a super anime Otaku and is Downloading massive amonts of anime as we speak while lamenating his Card Captor Sakura posters so they don&#39;t get all ckinkly. :D

I never spent a penny on anime related stuff. Otaku buy lots of crap.