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aaron FtW!!11
July 25th, 2009, 04:20 am
New thread for my compositions. I did this mostly because of my last threads name...Anywho

I have a new a song entitled "corecore", because im tired of metalcore, thraschore, post metal-rock-alternacore, crabcore (lol).

ENjoi.

oh and did you know, this guy hosts a show on cartoon network?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKwGxbwYFiY

Nyu001
July 25th, 2009, 04:37 am
That was quite nice. It made me think like if can be used for a show intro. The piece had a nice introduction and keep its energy the whole time. I was hoping for a proper outro than a fade out. Is it finished? The only recommendation that probably I can give is to give something more interesting to the organ than whole notes. Like playing a rhythmic pattern. But it is fine like that and is working well with the rest you have going on. So, it's just finding more interest. But probably would mess it.

And that is what I thought when I saw this new thread. Because of the title. :P

Edit: Your midis always sounds cool.

zippy
July 26th, 2009, 01:02 am
That was a pretty neat song. I have to agree with nyu on the organ thing though. Do something more interesting with the organ! :P And maybe add a section where some other instruments have the melody instead of the guitar?

aaron FtW!!11
July 26th, 2009, 06:22 pm
Thanks everyone :D
It is not finished quite yet, because i clearly need to work on my outros and the organ notes. Hopefully my a.d.d doesnt kick in and i can finish it

deathraider
July 30th, 2009, 05:52 am
Hopefully my a.d.d doesnt kick in and i can finish it

Amen to that!

aaron FtW!!11
October 3rd, 2009, 05:44 am
Good lord. This thread hasn't been active for some time now. Ive been busy with school and such. But anyways this is something I just started working on a few hours ago. I asked my friend first for some feedback, and he said he "disliked" the chord progression after the intro...but he doesn't know sh*t about music so blehhhh with his opinion :bleh:
But hopefully I should be updating more from now on.

aaron FtW!!11
October 26th, 2009, 02:21 am
Gahhhh @_@! I haven't finished an entire piece the longest time. Im seriously starting to consider the my attention deficit may be real. In any case, I present you my unfinished piece. Ignore the last few sections because I don't really have anything going on there. I just rushed it to get it done. And my end result was stinky doo doo. Everything before seems pretty decent though.

Ps. if you have any tips to concentrate more, they would be much appreciated :D

i also need name things better \/ (i type random letters and a number)....(most of the time)

KaitouKudou
October 26th, 2009, 02:37 am
I'll give some constructive crits :sweat:

I just listend to Fo 2 and i really disagree with the piano insert at 1:30. You didn't have a piano in the rest of your piece that bringing one in for like 8 bars just felt unnecessary. Also, I think the string ostinato at the start needs some back up. Maybe some tuba's or double bass or even some percussion could really power it up. Brass around 1:45 was nice, wish I could hear it in better samples.

aaron FtW!!11
October 26th, 2009, 02:43 am
Thanks KaitouKudou. I agree with you disagreeing with the piano, but you should have what i heard before it (YUKKKK). And whats an ostinato (not too familiar with compositional terms). I agree though, it seems kinda vacant

KaitouKudou
October 26th, 2009, 03:57 am
An ostinato is a pattern that is persistently repeated. In your pieces, it would be the staccato quarter note--triplet rhythm pattern.

The piece isn't finished yet so you can't avoid some parts feeling vacant. I would like to hear this piece finished though, it sounds really nice so far.

deathraider
October 26th, 2009, 05:51 am
Personally, I think it would be really cool if you offset the rhythmic pattern/ostinato that KK talked about with some kind of contrasting rhythm in the double bass and/or tuba part which would bring in some added amount of interest. I think that would help break up the monotony that it might otherwise create. I think I might be able to find a John Williams example if you need one.

I like some of the chord progressions a lot, and the orchestration is great from what I can tell! Keep it up!

aaron FtW!!11
October 27th, 2009, 03:15 am
An ostinato is a pattern that is persistently repeated. In your pieces, it would be the staccato quarter note--triplet rhythm pattern.

The piece isn't finished yet so you can't avoid some parts feeling vacant. I would like to hear this piece finished though, it sounds really nice so far.

Ahhh thanks


Personally, I think it would be really cool if you offset the rhythmic pattern/ostinato that KK talked about with some kind of contrasting rhythm in the double bass and/or tuba part which would bring in some added amount of interest. I think that would help break up the monotony that it might otherwise create. I think I might be able to find a John Williams example if you need one.

I like some of the chord progressions a lot, and the orchestration is great from what I can tell! Keep it up!

what do you mean by contrasting rhythm? examples would be awesome :D
john williams is epic.

deathraider
October 27th, 2009, 03:43 am
Hmmm, I can't find a John Williams theme right off the top of my head, so I guess I'll just have to explain, better. I was thinking it would really make the ostinato more driving if you had some sort of bass part underneath the ostinato that was playing syncopated rhythms of some sort...you don't use Finale, do you?

aaron FtW!!11
November 25th, 2009, 03:31 am
I have finale, but sadly I don't like the interface and how you use it so i don't use it. :\

I haven't been able to put anything into that song that is really good so im not gonna force anything into it. Ill think of something though.

On a different note I have been working on a few new things and this was made just recently. Nothing much to say about it really. Except that I am not to good with conclusions at all. I had an idea but i forgot it x.x which is a pain in the ass. Btw there is an mp3 format that sounds slightly better because of reverb and what not. Anyways, enjoy.

No title either -.-

aaron FtW!!11
November 29th, 2009, 12:01 am
I finally figured how to put audio files onto my digitech jamman so i have been messing around with that. But I made this to improvise over. Its not really anything special (i made it in a fraction of an hour). When I make stuff randomly i get some neat ideas so dont freak out if i make a song that sounds similar to this even though keeping stuff with the fl studio demo is kinda hard.

Omorose Panya
December 1st, 2009, 11:30 pm
It doesn't start (for me) for 20 seconds. Is it supposed to do that? My guess is no but it sounds nice =)

aaron FtW!!11
December 2nd, 2009, 05:11 am
I have no clue why it has a delayed start.
But thanks for listening :o

aaron FtW!!11
December 5th, 2009, 02:57 am
I screamed and nearly pissed myself when I found out that I might get GPO for christmas.
No more shitty midi for me.

KaitouKudou
December 7th, 2009, 02:58 am
Cxi: you can really tell the different samples that you had haha. I kind of wanted a different pattern to start after the first....entire song? :heh: I'm assuming u used FL.

aaron FtW!!11
December 23rd, 2009, 03:34 pm
Lol, yep. Im still using the Fl studio demo x.x which reminds me...I just got Garritan Personal Orchestra. Here is a little thing I did while trying to figure how all the bells and whistles work. Does anybody know have any tips on how to use this thing O.o
Im running it as a vst on the fl studio demo..lol

Nyu001
December 23rd, 2009, 03:44 pm
I like your intro, it comes with energy and sounds very well. But when the piece start, it felt weak. It feels like with holes that are waiting to be filled. There is a lot you can do in there. But sounds promising so far. :D

aaron FtW!!11
January 4th, 2010, 04:17 am
Ive lost so many projects since im only running an fl studio demo. So until i invest in a full copy of that, my full attention will still using midi instead of garritan...which sucks. But hey hey! Im in a group (i wouldn't call it a band since they barely "play" their instruments) which has inspired me to write more music that incorporates more guitar and such. This song is clearly out our league...at least for them :P lol. anyways its called danse macabre and i think its cool >.>

*and if anyone uses guitar pro and wants the file posted, well that can be arranged

deathraider
January 4th, 2010, 08:09 am
I like your intro, it comes with energy and sounds very well. But when the piece start, it felt weak. It feels like with holes that are waiting to be filled. There is a lot you can do in there. But sounds promising so far. :D

That's pretty much how I feel, too. It sounded like you were doing pretty well with the GPO, though.

I really liked that little thing around 1:42 in Danse Macabre, and the whole thing is really fun. I've been wanting to do something cool and fun like this lately...

Edit: I started listening to Danse Macabre and now I can't stop! :D

Solaphar
January 5th, 2010, 01:22 am
Danse Macabre is good.

A few things you might consider: changing tracks 12 & 11 (channels 5 & 6) from overdriven to distortion guitar. Also, maybe change the bass to fingered instead of picked.

Consider transposing to G-minor. By this I mean, if I were you, I'd think about lowering the bass by 8 halfsteps while raising the guitars by 4 half-steps.

Another possibility would be B-flat minor, lowering both the guitars and bass by 5 half-steps, but this would put sections of the overdriven guitar on track 14 (channel 7) pretty far below its range, so you'd probably need to raise those parts an octave.

The aim with either of those transpositions is to make the bass more, well... bassey. As the composition is, currently, the lowest note the bass ever hits is a B-flat. 6th fret on the E-string, or 1st fret on A-string.

Just a few suggestions. It sounds pretty good even if you don't do any of that.

As a side note: Some of those drum parts seem like they'd be pretty hard to pull off, heh. Especially those 32nd snare hits (like around 10 seconds, 16 seconds, etc.)

Anyway, nice job.

aaron FtW!!11
April 7th, 2010, 05:18 am
^ I have to many things to say why I wouldn't do some of that stuff (like transposing it would change the way the song is played on guitar entirely), but thanks for suggesting idea's anyways.

I've reached a low point in my music hobbies or whatever you want to call it. I can never finish a piece, let alone write something that is close to how I imagined it. I have files upon files of unfinished work and maybe a few pieces that I have actually finished. I've grown doubtful of myself as a composer lately and keep distancing myself more and more from music. Finishing something that I started is really difficult, as I lose interest or grow to hate the song after hearing it a few times. I'm more pissed than anything though. I know I said that I would be more active here, but I don't have anything complete or enjoyable to present. That's why I'm just posting the most recent (and more lengthy) songs, or "clips". Which I somewhat hesitate to do, since nobody really wants to take their time to comment on a clip. I also have a full copy of fl studio now too.
Enough self-loathing :shifty:

I just feel like making a long post....really :)

Love Letter 2
I tried making this atmospheric and deep in ambiance. I may have overdosed on some delay though. I'm still getting used to GPO and trying to figure out what some of the sounds mean such as, Overlay's and Overlay AG. So instead of building ensembles from scratch, I just use the presets for now. I feel like their are some clashing volumes between some of the sounds. Like it could be hard to notice one thing over another.

Atonement
Something gallop-y which includes violin for most of the melody. I think the "bang" part lacks some oomph though.

Pride
Definitely more ethic than most things I've done. Something along the lines of like a monk monastery. I had a lot of fun working with some of percussion sounds on GPO. Again, I used some violins for a melody but used some type of reed instrument for the repeating part.

Hopefully I don't sound like a douche attention whore or someone asking for sympathy. I'm just trying to explain why I haven't been as active as I said. Just maybe take the time to listen to these. And if you really want to, you can comment on them. :)
Cheers

Ander
April 7th, 2010, 05:33 pm
i enjoyed 'atonement'. it was gallop-y. when you said "bang" do you mean the cymbols part?

love letter 2 was quite enjoyable but it suddenly died. maybe you meant to do that... i don't know (shrug)

Solaphar
April 10th, 2010, 07:44 pm
(like transposing it would change the way the song is played on guitar entirely)

You could always use a capo, couldn't you?

I'm not trying to argue with you or say it's wrong not to change it (because the song is okay as it is, and it is your song), I'm just saying... you know. It might be good to consider it a little more, maybe.


Anyway, your latest works seem decent enough, certainly far better than what I've tried composing lately. So, maybe you shouldn't be too down about your writer's block (could be worse, right?).

Atonement, you have a rhythm, and you're solidly building as it goes, but you could move in more directions as far as bass and chords. Maybe move that bass up a third or a fourth, and then go down a step, where you left off, and see where that takes you. It sounds like you could expand it in so many directions, so perhaps experiment with a few until you come across something you like.

Pride is interesting, but I'm not sure I'm feeling it with the repeated riff on the clarinet-sounding things? in the back ground that start around 0:11. They start to sound a bit out of place around 0:59-onwards. Hope you'll keep working on this piece though. Sounds like another one asking to be finished.

With Love Letter 2, I love the fast piano arpeggios in the beginning. As for the flute that comes in around 0:44, that is a very tasteful melodic choice, but it feels like you should definitely do more with that before letting it drop out and expanding the song, so see if you can do a little more with that before moving on as you did at 0:56.

Overall, I like where you're going with these, and I can understand how it can be easy to reach a dead-end and not know what to do next, but I think that if you just play around with different melodies/chord progressions/etc, you can come up with some fresh ideas that will let you continue each of these pieces. It can be hard work trying to come up with multiple variations until you find one you like, but it might be one of the surest ways to see these to completion.

Kevin Penkin
April 15th, 2010, 03:13 am
Atonement just feels like it can have a new section that's not in the same key to make it more interesting. Listen to Yuka Tsujiyoko for some ideas on piece development.

Love letter had some cool harmonies. Definitely check out FFXIII music. The instruments feel a little dry to try putting some verb on it. With the ending, agreed with above, try looping?

With Pride, same as Atonement, modulate dude! haha. It's almost painfully staying in D so try with some of the harmonies that you used in Love Letter 2!

KaitouKudou
April 16th, 2010, 10:06 pm
it's hard to comment as the pieces aren't finished yet. I didn't mind t the strings comming in so quickly after the flute solo for love letter though. However, I do agree that the melody should still be expanded a bit more as the others have said. An alternative to what the above two has suggested is to keep what you have and just deny the build up you've created toward the end with the strings in the next section. Maybe have a different instrument solo like a clarinet or horn carry the expanded melody?

aaron FtW!!11
July 29th, 2010, 05:53 am
*cough*...I didn't finish any of the above...whoopsie
Anyhow, here's a little ditty in which I pretty much got the majority of the song finished done in a about an hour.

Overall, I think it's neat >.>

aaron FtW!!11
January 29th, 2011, 07:35 pm
Hi,