People say the world is going to end in 2009/2010.
What do you think?

um ive only heard about it ending in 2012. personally i think its BS, but if you believe in it..more power to ya :D

-.- Out of all the topics in the world you chose this one... What is with you and this topic anyway? Do you feel comfort in talking about your own death!?

One last thing it's not 2009/2010 it's 2012 like "I dont like anime" states.

Well, everyone dies anyway. If I had to die sixty years or so earlier than my expiration date said I did, it'd be pretty awesome to get to at least see the end of the world because of it. =D

^that

Something I whole-heartedly agree with...somehow :mellow:

Do you feel comfort in talking about your own death!?

I do, and so should everyone else. Death as natural as life is; everyone hears of it, knows it, feels it, so you bloody get used to it.

And that 2012 bs is just that, bs. Superstition my behind :bleh:

And that 2012 bs is just that, bs. Superstition my behind :bleh:

What he said. The world was also to end 9 years ago, and on several other occasions.

Yep, a long time ago I found a list of doomsday dates online...I don't know where it is now though, but in the past 20 years, there have been atleast 5 dates when the world was supposed to end

*drags a couch over and sits down with a popcorn*

*points and laughs*


OH MAN its been a while since I last used that phrase at ichigos.

... Death as natural as life is; everyone hears of it, knows it, feels it ... :

Let me stop you right there! Everyone feels it WHEN they die not before. At the moment of death you would accept that fact. But seriously, who thinks about these sorts of things! Unless you are some anti-social weirdo who is SO bored in life and have nothing better to do than sit and think about their end (death).


Well, everyone dies anyway. If I had to die sixty years or so earlier than my expiration date said I did, it'd be pretty awesome to get to at least see the end of the world because of it. =D

:think: That's an achievement? :huh: *sigh* This reminds me of the story about the boy who cried "wolf". I'll repeat the cliche often said...

BUT I'M TOO YOUNG TO DIE! -.-

Personally, I'd be in a huge predicament if the world "was" to end in my life time. Being a natural scientist and boring as know-it-all, I'd just have to put together a report on how the world ended. The tricky part, I don't think anyone would be reading it......x_x. Still, I'd actually be kind of intrigued, for it sure would make one hell of a scientific analysis!

Let me stop you right there! Everyone feels it WHEN they die not before. At the moment of death you would accept that fact. But seriously, who thinks about these sorts of things! Unless you are some anti-social weirdo who is SO bored in life and have nothing better to do than sit and think about their end (death).

No, Im an Anti-social weirdo who is so bored with life and has nothing better to do than go on Ichigos forums all day :shifty:

That would be kind of nice if it ended then we wouldn't have to worry about the world ending any more.

Let me stop you right there! Everyone feels it WHEN they die not before. At the moment of death you would accept that fact. But seriously, who thinks about these sorts of things! Unless you are some anti-social weirdo who is SO bored in life and have nothing better to do than sit and think about their end (death).

I don't sit around and think about dying all the time. I don't even really think about it besides wondering how I will die sometimes. All I said was death is something that is inevitable for everyone, so you better suck it up and accept it, or you are essentially in denial. And maybe if you take your time to look at death and it's causes, you might be able to find a way to prolong your life [notice how I didn't say avoid death] instead of beating around the bush and taking a blind eye towards nature.
Death has become an awkward taboo topic in modern Western societies, and it's stupid and was not always like that way. I have no idea what or who to blame it on, but just a few centuries ago, depictions of death, demons and hell were considered as holy to make, look at and to have as a depiction of Christ or a saint.

And when I mean feeling death, I mean feeling the emotions, losses and gains of someone or something dying, not the physical or emotional attributes of actually dying yourself. First of all, that's silly, and stupid and intangible. And I'm not that stupid, thanks.

Personally, I'd be in a huge predicament if the world "was" to end in my life time. Being a natural scientist and boring as know-it-all, I'd just have to put together a report on how the world ended. The tricky part, I don't think anyone would be reading it......x_x. Still, I'd actually be kind of intrigued, for it sure would make one hell of a scientific analysis!

Erm, if the world ended, you'd be dead. It's kinda hard to write a report when you're dead.

Well, I got it in an ad to join a church thingy. so yeah. but they say that everything is going digital in 2010 so analog is gone.so random but yeah they say the world is going to end in 6 million years as well. but I believe the 6 million year one though.

Well, natural life has the potential of surviving 6 billion years, given our science on nuclear fission is correct. Twelve-billion years is the average live of our star class (source compiled from here (http://www.scienceinschool.org/print/169) and here (http://www.abc.net.au/science/space/planets/sun.htm); beware physics and math required).

As for the 2012 thing, that's from an ancient Mayan calendar. Do you honestly think that a culture that could assign a number (ironically 12/21/12 11:11 GMT; the end of a 5,126-year era, long count calendar (http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2007-03-27-maya-2012_n.htm)) and then assume that the world will end. In addition the Mayan scientist cults have fallen from interest and legitimacy for quite some time now.

In fact, the 2012 era that the Mayans were talking about is a range of years dictated by sunspots and flares. Meaning, from it's original establishment there is a +/- 18 year variation of what 2012 is in the Long Count calendar. This means the 2012 they're talking about ranges from 1980 to 2016 (http://www.greatdreams.com/2007_is_2012.htm).

All our other problems we have will end our world far before any of these turn out, like the CO2 problem caused by humans not industry and development, war, epidemics, biochemical spills, ...

All watch so you know how to survive the Mexican Zombocalypse of 2012!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrhVcGcr-kM

That is all.

HAHA! That is so funny!

You know, that's what people said for the year 2000......it's already 2009. Figures. Either that or Obama is the Anti-Christ and will doom us all.

WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE???

Meh, I'm cool with that *shrugs* it's not as if we'll care if the world ends, we won't BE here ;) Nothing to miss LOL

i i've heard 2012 also. i heard it was because its when the mayan and the chinese calandar ends. I say, maybe they couldn't count that high.

I say they ran out of room to add more (on that giant Mayan wheel anyways), which is why they stopped there :mellow:

I say they ran out of room to add more (on that giant Mayan wheel anyways), which is why they stopped there :mellow:

^ Agreed! :teeth:

I agree as well, maybe they ran out of sundials and wood.

Well, natural life has the potential of surviving 6 billion years, given our science on nuclear fission is correct. Twelve-billion years is the average live of our star class (source compiled from here (http://www.scienceinschool.org/print/169) and here (http://www.abc.net.au/science/space/planets/sun.htm); beware physics and math required).

As for the 2012 thing, that's from an ancient Mayan calendar. Do you honestly think that a culture that could assign a number (ironically 12/21/12 11:11 GMT; the end of a 5,126-year era, long count calendar (http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2007-03-27-maya-2012_n.htm)) and then assume that the world will end. In addition the Mayan scientist cults have fallen from interest and legitimacy for quite some time now.

In fact, the 2012 era that the Mayans were talking about is a range of years dictated by sunspots and flares. Meaning, from it's original establishment there is a +/- 18 year variation of what 2012 is in the Long Count calendar. This means the 2012 they're talking about ranges from 1980 to 2016 (http://www.greatdreams.com/2007_is_2012.htm).

All our other problems we have will end our world far before any of these turn out, like the CO2 problem caused by humans not industry and development, war, epidemics, biochemical spills, ...

Atheist?

I don't know why people think the calendar ends. It doesn't. It's just the end of the second phase or whatever. Ill have to shop around for a link that explains it. There's 5 phases, we're in the second one right now, and it will switch over to the third in 2012.

Uhm? People who think the world "ends" is highly mistaken, it's going to "change."

Atheist?

I just don't believe that some fiery bird will come down and will recreate the world with fire like a phoenix. If that's atheist, then I guess I am one.

It isn't. Atheists feel an "absence of religion." As in, Atheism isn't a religion, it's just a way of thinking, really.

I just don't believe that some fiery bird will come down and will recreate the world with fire like a phoenix. If that's atheist, then I guess I am one.

What? I thought atheism was simply not recognising any diety/higher power.

*drags a couch over and sits down with a popcorn*

*points and laughs*


OH MAN its been a while since I last used that phrase at ichigos.

Mmmmm, so tasty! A sweet dose of evil injected straight into your soul.

Hmm, that's interesting... I thought the 2012 date was just something set by religious fanatics. Thanks for clearing that up, M. So I guess it is set by religious fanatics, just not the ones I was expecting!

Anyways, if the world ends in our lifetime then I certainly hope I have the chance to understand why it happened before dying, or it'll be an unfortunate shortening of the lifespan.

About the thing on 6 billion years. I find it difficult to believe that the sun would remain constant during the later part of its life. If I recall correctly, most stars tend to expand and increase in intensity as time goes on, so perhaps life will have far shorter time on Earth. It's probably far too optimistic to think that humans would survive anywhere as long as that. We'll probably kill ourselves off in a few more centuries at the rate technology is going now...

On another note, has anyone considered the interesting scenarios posed in Alan Lightman's 'Einstein's Dreams'? I believe he suggested, in one instance, that our personal perception of time will slow down exponentially as we age, meaning that we'll never actually reach our death, only come infinitely close to it. Heheh....

I'd to say that it was the christian religion that sent out that mail of the end of the world in 2009/2010.

The Christian religion was it?

The latest I have read is 2012 ...I mean it is base on Mayan Calendar ..I do hope the world will not end that way in the movie

It isn't. Atheists feel an "absence of religion." As in, Atheism isn't a religion, it's just a way of thinking, really.
Quick comment. Atheism is not a lack of religion. That's irreligion. Atheists obviously can be irreligious, but do not have to be.

As for the 2012 thang... meh.

Quick comment. Atheism is not a lack of religion. That's irreligion. Atheists obviously can be irreligious, but do not have to be.

You mean Atheism is the absolute denial of god(s) and that irreligious is all possible states that are not religious, right? Because Irreligion holds both Atheists and Agnostics, along with a whole slew of other positions, whereas Atheism is the expressed "denial" of any form of deity or theism (As from Greek -- theism-> theos: Gods/God, and A: not; ergo, A-Theos: Not God(s)/ Without Gods). Atheism is a more refined form of irreligion, not the other way around.

My mother and I came to the conclusion after a very long discussion about "Who killed the electric car" that every society needs a "shake up" so it doesnt kill itself (or everyone else). Fallen Societies.
This process that has been going on for a long time. Some examples are: the Aztecs, Romans, Greeks etc.
So if the world ends in 2012 it would be for a good reason.
Although I mainly believe WWIII will be in 2012.

Quick comment. Atheism is not a lack of religion. That's irreligion. Atheists obviously can be irreligious, but do not have to be.

Uhm. I never said Atheism is a lack of religion. I defined what it was after I mentioned a "feeling" not a "statement." XD

:topic:

Although I mainly believe WWIII will be in 2012.

*listens*

WWIII over who's going to survive the apocalypse and who isn't.

I doubt WWIII will happen before at least halfway through 2014. Putin wouldn't end the world until after he hosts the Olympics. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIDoJpz-aYk) Those eyes of his just speaks of vengeance and destruction.

You mean Atheism is the absolute denial of god(s) and that irreligious is all possible states that are not religious, right? Because Irreligion holds both Atheists and Agnostics, along with a whole slew of other positions, whereas Atheism is the expressed "denial" of any form of deity or theism (As from Greek -- theism-> theos: Gods/God, and A: not; ergo, A-Theos: Not God(s)/ Without Gods). Atheism is a more refined form of irreligion, not the other way around.

It depends. Most atheists would define atheism as it translates literally, ie. "the absence of a belief in god/s" and nothing more. Of course, there are more precise definitions, like implicit or explicit atheism (or sometimes called weak and strong atheism).

Atheism and agnosticism don't really belong into the same group of classification, really. Atheism/theism is about your belief, agnosticism is about the state of knowledge. In that sense it's possible to be an agnostic atheist (which would be comparable to "weak/implicit" atheism) or an agnostic theist . (I personally think that gnosticism is BS, as you can, by definition, never really know anything definite about the metaphysical.)

Anyway, the wikipedia article on atheism is quite good for those who are interested in the details.

Bottom line: The minimum definition of atheism is the absence of belief in god/s, you can't go wrong with that.

If the world ended then I would be put out of this eternal misery that is my life...

That's a very positive stance you have there, you can even find good things about the end of the world. :)

Suicide is a lot quicker. I'm not advocating suicide, but at least you don't have to take the whole world with you, because there is bound to be one content mister or misses somewhere.

Meh, I would at least want to watch the end of the world... the greatest, 3-D movie of all time...

Most painful 3-D movie ever!

Unless it just sort of ended... just like that. That would be freaking boring, but you wouldn't have time to be bored. It's practically just as likely as implosions and explosions and fires and crap.

Suicide is a lot quicker. I'm not advocating suicide, but at least you don't have to take the whole world with you, because there is bound to be one content mister or misses somewhere.

You bring up an interesting point.

If suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem, then ending the world solves everything :!:

But if the problem is temporary, what's the point of having a permanent solution...?

You bring up an interesting point.

If suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem, then ending the world solves everything :!:

Yeah, but personal problems. Suicide wipes out one persons problems by taking their existence away, where to end the whole world you are assuming that everyone has problems they are willing to end with death.