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Madmazda86
October 15th, 2004, 09:05 am
Here's the first bar below. Take turns to continue the piece! BUT there are some ground rules:

1) You can only add one bar at a time, and you can't add a new bar till someone else has posted one after you. However, you can do a bar for each staff - there's two at the moment, so you can add a bar each for both in one post. Don't worry if you can only do one bar (as in, you have a melody idea but not one for the bass line - I can fill in any gaps.)

2) Your bar must be posted as a screenshot, as not everybody has Finale to view it with. To do this, compose your bar on your program and press the Print Screen key (sometimes written as prt sc) on your keyboard. Now open an imaging program e.g. Paintbrush and press Control+V or rightclick the mouse and select paste. Crop the screencapture so it just shows your composition, and post it up!

3) I know we've got a lot of seasoned composers on here and having only two staffs to work with will drive you mad, so I will permit the addition of new staffs, but the new staff starts from your contribution only - it can't go back and be incorporated at the beginning of the piece. Try not to have too many staffs going, though, as it makes it harder for less experienced composers to keep everything flowing. You can also take out staffs as well, if the texture's getting too thick, but there must be a minimum of two staffs going on from there.

4) There could be arguments about different contributions - what's good and what's not, but remember the idea of this is to encourage spontaneous creativity, so please be nice to each other! I doubt anybody would post a really bad bar so fingers crossed everything will go smoothly :)

And off you go! Do what you like with dynamics, tempos, performance styles, accidentals and time changes. Once the piece starts getting to a decent length I'll put in a reminder post so we can start winding it up - once it's all done we can discuss instrumentation, and I'll assimilate the screenshots and post a MIDI of the finished piece - then we can start again! I might need the help of Noir7 or one of the other mods in pruning all the posts off once one piece is finished and we want to start another. I hope that this will be enjoyable for everybody and encourage some great contributions. Go go go! :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/madmazda86/FirstBar.png

Edit: Ooops, I didn't think that it'd be a bit difficult to decide what to add without hearing the piece too, so here's a MIDI. I'll keep adding to it as we go along, that might be a bit easier :) **Updated with Al and Darren's contributions**

Round Robin Midi (http://www.geocities.com/madmazda86/RoundRobin.mid)

NOTE: The reason I have insisted on screenshots as opposed to the posting of midis is to prevent the editing of the contributions of other posters. This is because it offends the creativity of others and if I were to allow that I might as well just let one person compose the whole piece. The spirit of a round robin is to work alongside others to create something of a larger scale, which has everybody's personalities and styles in it. Please respect this spirit! If you want a midi to refer to while composing, please feel free to use the master midi here, but when you post your contribution make sure it's as a screenshot, not a midi :) Thankyou!

Al
October 15th, 2004, 03:51 pm
What an excellent idea!

http://members.rogers.com/alphonsenguyen/robin1.jpg

Darren
October 15th, 2004, 06:11 pm
hope that works :heh:

Madmazda86
October 16th, 2004, 07:33 am
Fabbadoosie - keep 'em coming! :D

Vocalist69
October 17th, 2004, 02:50 am
Originally posted by madmazda86@Oct 16 2004, 07:33 AM
Fabbadoosie - keep 'em coming! :D
How about everyone uploads seperate midi with their modification, and we can add on from there.

http://www.boomspeed.com/demonsword/untitled.JPG

Madmazda86
October 17th, 2004, 03:32 am
A couple of things - firstly, the midi you've put up doesn't match with the note arrangement in your screenshot, and secondly, Darren's contribution has been edited in this midi. Here's yours and Darren's as extrapolated from the midi, and they're not the same (mine and Al's contributions are fine):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/madmazda86/OhDear.png

The third staff you've added in your screenshot isn't present and the note arrangements are different. This is why I wanted people to post screenshots rather than midis, as it prevents that sort of thing from occurring.

The midi that I posted at the top of the thread is being regularly updated with people's contributions, and if you want a midi to refer to when composing your bar, please use that one. It's not fair on other contributors if their pieces are edited just so they fit in with what you want to do - I'll happily add your contribution that's in the screenshot if you wish, or if you prefer the bars you put in the midi I can use those instead, but I won't edit the contributions of any of the previous posters without their express wishes. Otherwise it undermines their own creativity :) Thankyou for contributing, though!

In fact, having just posted - you've edited your screenshot... but it still doesn't match with what you have in the midi... *confused*

Vocalist69
October 17th, 2004, 03:50 am
Originally posted by madmazda86@Oct 17 2004, 03:32 AM
A couple of things - firstly, the midi you've put up doesn't match with the note arrangement in your screenshot, and secondly, Darren's contribution has been edited in this midi. Here's yours and Darren's as extrapolated from the midi, and they're not the same (mine and Al's contributions are fine):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/madmazda86/OhDear.png

The third staff you've added in your screenshot isn't present and the note arrangements are different. This is why I wanted people to post screenshots rather than midis, as it prevents that sort of thing from occurring.

The midi that I posted at the top of the thread is being regularly updated with people's contributions, and if you want a midi to refer to when composing your bar, please use that one. It's not fair on other contributors if their pieces are edited just so they fit in with what you want to do - I'll happily add your contribution that's in the screenshot if you wish, or if you prefer the bars you put in the midi I can use those instead, but I won't edit the contributions of any of the previous posters without their express wishes. Otherwise it undermines their own creativity :) Thankyou for contributing, though!

In fact, having just posted - you've edited your screenshot... but it still doesn't match with what you have in the midi... *confused*
Actually my image and arrangements match perfectly, it's just that it doesn't open exactly the way you save, finale 2003 tends to open midis in different notation format than .mus files.

Madmazda86
October 17th, 2004, 04:04 am
Ahhh, I understand what it's done now - it's taken the chords and switched them from bass to treble clef. I apologise for accusing you of editing Darren's previous section - the midi extrapolated it differently and I should've looked at it harder. But below was your original screenshot - can you understand me being confused? Either way, it's better if we stick to posting screenshots rather than midis because it stops my head from exploding ;) Thanks for clearing that up :)

Vocalist69
October 17th, 2004, 04:11 am
Originally posted by madmazda86@Oct 17 2004, 04:04 AM
Ahhh, I understand what it's done now - it's taken the chords and switched them from bass to treble clef. I apologise for accusing you of editing Darren's previous section - the midi extrapolated it differently and I should've looked at it harder. But below was your original screenshot - can you understand me being confused? Either way, it's better if we stick to posting screenshots rather than midis because it stops my head from exploding ;) Thanks for clearing that up :)
True. Sorry for the argument.

Madmazda86
October 17th, 2004, 04:16 am
I'm sorry too - as usual I jump in before getting all the facts. Anyway, if your screenshot is the version you want added I can do that no probs :) Carry on, y'all :D

Darren
October 17th, 2004, 08:14 am
actually, Madmazda86, you were kind of right. The notes I intended to put are different from the ones in the midi file. but it is not really Vocalist's fault either.

rather, there's a big bug in my attachment.

if you had looked carefully enough, you would discover the treble clef only has four lines! You can only see the correct notation by clicking the attachment and expand it.

Edit:
anyway,
I attach a MUS file that includes all the segments. And since it's a MUS file, the bass note won't end up in the treble clef.

Madmazda86
October 17th, 2004, 09:19 am
D'oh! I'm sorry, I read yours and Al's straight off the screen without enlarging the attachment. *sighs* Running this is proving to be complex! I've fixed up the MIDI - thanks for putting up the MUS file too, at least it sounds like it should do now :)

Al
October 17th, 2004, 11:16 am
*confused* . . I can't open mus files, so I'm not sure which version of vocalist's contribution for the fourth bar is correct. Two staves, three staves . . eh?

Madmazda86
October 18th, 2004, 07:46 am
Originally posted by Al@Oct 17 2004, 12:16 PM
*confused* . . I can't open mus files, so I'm not sure which version of vocalist's contribution for the fourth bar is correct. Two staves, three staves . . eh?
Don't panic! It's all sorted out - I think the version Vocalist69 wants in the RR is what he has as his screenshot, so that's what I've put down. We can continue as normal now - it was just me having a tizzy and not reading things properly ;)

Vocalist69
October 18th, 2004, 09:19 pm
Nobody? I'll add one more measure if I may in that case.

Al
October 20th, 2004, 04:04 am
http://members.rogers.com/alphonsenguyen/robin2.jpg

Hopefully, that's bar 6. Let's have some sort of cadence for bar 8 guys! =)

Gnomish
October 20th, 2004, 06:16 am
I'd participate... but my print screen button is broken! :(

Madmazda86
October 20th, 2004, 07:40 am
These contributions are fab! :D Gnomish - don't worry - post yours as a MIDI or .MUS file and I can add it for you. I'd hate for you to be left out! :)

Vocalist69
October 20th, 2004, 08:49 pm
Friendly pointer: There is a slight dissonance in second to the last measure, could you check it out please? :heh: XD

Madmazda86
October 21st, 2004, 06:58 am
Oops, errant flat - all fixed now :)

Vocalist69
October 21st, 2004, 12:36 pm
Originally posted by madmazda86@Oct 21 2004, 06:58 AM
Oops, errant flat - all fixed now :)
You're such a sweetheart~! ^_^

Sephiroth
November 18th, 2004, 03:15 pm
guys this is sounding great please dont stop ^_^