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Archangel
April 27th, 2004, 02:07 am
hey y'all.
this is my first composition.... well, actually third... but this is the first one i actually recorded.... and i'm kinda scared (literally). I know that i'm definetely not up to blackmage's music... but if you can, may you listen to my song and give me any comment on it... from a scale (from one to ten or twenty or whatever number that appeases you) to "I hate it"(yes, that too). Also, for your safety of your ears... this was not written out on a composition program... all the notes and sounds you hear are actually me playing (horribly) on a friend's keyboard since i have no way of accessing a program writer for my computer. Therefore, plz accept my apologies in advance for my terrible playing.

enjoy!

P.S. I just noticed the beginning part is kinda messed up.... this is just for me to know which parts you like and don't like... i've got a better version but i need to record it. thx.

P.P.S I just got a new one out down at the bottom somewhere called "Distant Thoughts 2.0". It is still done manually on a keyboard but more clearer and changed a few things... so scrap this song. just here for critism.

Madmazda86
April 27th, 2004, 05:39 pm
Wow, you're a really talented keyboard player - I can't play parts into the computer, I always stuff it up so I always go back to good old Noteworthy ;) This piece sounds really ethereal - you've made good use of the upper octaves in the piece and placing the base line around the middle C area for most of the piece means it doesn't sound too jumpy. I like the beginning - it sounds really nice and the descending run is very well executed (dammit I'm so bad at scales!) The dynamics were nearly inaudible in places but that's more down to the touchtone - your use of dynamics is very good otherwise. It's a nice progressive piece - it doesn't spend too long on a particular motif so it doesn't get boring and it's quite soothing to listen to.

Great piece - 9/10 as you had the added difficulty of playing it into the computer and it can be really frustrating to do!

Ayanami
April 27th, 2004, 08:41 pm
Rats, I've tried making a piece that actually sounds anime like but you did an awesome song. could be used. But I don't think the sscale should go in there. It sounds good but it doesn't fit the mood of the song opther than that 10/10 man it sounds awesome!!

Archangel
April 28th, 2004, 02:49 am
hey, thx guys!. whew (sigh of relief!). and yeah, once i get a music writer program (hoping to get sebelius) then i'd be in heaven... hehe. thx for your comments! :D

AznJoe
April 28th, 2004, 07:10 am
i envy u!!!!! :angry: i cant compose anything...i no it...i tried....

great song~! :lol:

Kenny
April 28th, 2004, 07:54 pm
it's sound just wonderful.

Archangel
April 29th, 2004, 02:38 am
hey, thx alot. here is the same song... but improved (just in some places, hehe, see if you can find them... and i messed up less than the first one. sorry for any inconvenience to my sloppiness in posting up songs. :( ) this one just is a better version so listen to it if you like it.

kage no tenshi
April 29th, 2004, 08:52 pm
wow it is amazing, I wish I could write music like that, I have tried so many times but mine always sonunds really bad. I give it a 10/10 because I didn&#39;t find anyting I dislike about it. Sound perfect to me (unlike my compositions <_< )

Archangel
April 30th, 2004, 12:44 am
thx kage no tenshi for your feedback. and hey, i think every composition is unique. if you want, let me listen to it and see.

BlackMage
April 30th, 2004, 11:56 am
Purely amazing, it sounds so abstract, reserved in it&#39;s own way. The dramatic changes give a feel of flying and the quick wave like way in which you composed this really resembles a dream. I think the title is perfect and you have much luck as a composer, best of luck to you :).

Madmazda86
April 30th, 2004, 05:00 pm
Originally posted by Archangel@Apr 28 2004, 03:49 AM
once i get a music writer program (hoping to get sebelius) then i&#39;d be in heaven...
Urgh, Sibelius, urgh, floating palettes, urgh urgh urrrrrgh :blink:

Each to their own, fair enough, but their point and click system drives me barmy&#33;

Kenny
May 1st, 2004, 03:52 am
Ok i want to know something&#33; plz lol how old are ya&#39;ll???? and have you been to school for this composing things? because i never been to university yet i&#39;m planing on going but umm ... just wanted to know how much skilled you all are in music ?

Kenny
May 1st, 2004, 03:56 am
it sounds great but at the first like begining when you do the peo thingy lol it cuts off quickly but other than that i found it exellent 10/10 for sure :)

servbot
May 1st, 2004, 04:57 am
I think that a personal recording is much better than a midi or mus file especially if the composer&#39;s playing it. That way you can feel their style both as a composer and a performer, and the true feelings imbued between every note can be brought out into it&#39;s full and astounding lustre.

Your song has inspired me to write very poetically about it ^_^

I enjoyed listening to it very much. The song on the whole feels definitely like a denouement, as if someone was lost, but not forgotten. Those are the feelings that I felt.

Archangel
May 1st, 2004, 09:28 am
i&#39;m glad that my piece has moved some of you and most humbled that it has inspired others. thx servbot for your supportive comments&#33;

Kenny- first off, thx for your comments&#33; I think you&#39;ve posted more than once&#33; lol&#33;
as for your question, it varies to some ppl. in some high schools, they have a class called composition or theory (or both). My school unfortunately does not have such a program so I taught myself :huh: . I&#39;ve played piano for about 8 to 9 years and quitted. I stopped because I couldn&#39;t handle the practice hours (and i&#39;m not saying that you should quit too&#33;) but, despite that, I love playing the piano on my free time just playing common patterns (G chord, D, C,D.... that&#39;s the first most basic pattern I&#39;ve found and learned. each chord has one bar, then repeats.) Another factor probably is jazz band since it teaches you how to solo (and also teaches you what to play eg. Bb blue scale which i find cool cause whatever note you hit in the scale sounds perfect no matter what&#33;) Enough of me. Bottom line: know your scales, chords, and inversions, and stuff.... mostly theory. that&#39;s just part of creating music. the other part is creativity and feeling. without that, the music would be hollow... without a story.

BlackMage- I&#39;m very happy that you listened to my song cause i listened to yours (which are awesome&#33;&#33;&#33; For those who haven&#39;t heard his compositions, Go Listen to them&#33; their a works of art&#33;) so far... Blackmage is my internet composition hero&#33; B) THX BlackMage&#33;

The rest, thx for your wonderful comments&#33; :D

kenjiusesglock
May 1st, 2004, 08:55 pm
Wow, this is such a great composition&#33; I&#39;m usually a forum lurker, that is to say that i check the forums once in awhile but never post. Your composition is so great, it&#39;s inspired me to post :). I&#39;ve listened to some of blackmages compositions, and I have to say his are good, but i think i like yours better. Correct me if i am mistaken, but I think blackmage has more of a classical style of composition, while you have more of a modern style. I&#39;ve only started to study theory, so i dont know the differences in theory between modern and classical. Anyway, great job 10/10&#33;

BlackMage
May 2nd, 2004, 03:05 am
Originally posted by kenjiusesglock@May 1 2004, 08:55 PM
Correct me if i am mistaken, but I think blackmage has more of a classical style of composition, while you have more of a modern style.
Correct :).

Our styles of music are really quite different, but both can be appreciated, no matter what style some one likes.

kenjiusesglock
May 2nd, 2004, 07:45 am
indeed, could either of you explain the theory differences in the two styles? I&#39;m just beginning to learn theory and that could help me out a bit :)

Archangel
May 2nd, 2004, 09:41 pm
lol. sorry, i never knew that there was such a thing... come to think of it, i should since it&#39;s basically common sense cause there are so many genres of music out there.... I think Blackmage knows more than me in theory.... :P

BlackMage
May 2nd, 2004, 11:05 pm
Basic theory:

All melodic and harmonic changes should be chord based.
Even rhthym is not a must, go will sometimes&#33;
There are many different chords but all are either major or minor.

If you want to contact me we can talk some more you guys :)

aim: emailmetoduk
email: emailmetoduk@aol.com
msn: rarghjamjar@hotmail.com

Kenny
May 3rd, 2004, 01:56 am
Continue composing&#33; You have extreme talent i want to hear some more :)

Wandering Mage
May 3rd, 2004, 02:27 pm
Wow...
You have incredible talent, I&#39;ve been playing as long as you have and I can&#39;t play anything even NEAR that level. It&#39;s a gorgeous piece. It makes me think of a gull I once saw over the ocean at night, it sounds so free. Keep up the good work&#33;



~Blessed be~

Archangel
May 3rd, 2004, 10:24 pm
thx wandering mage. a composer is glad to hear that his music is appreciated&#33;
I&#39;m working on about three songs at the moment. one something like "distant thoughts", one with vocal, and one transribing. So i got lots of work set out for me&#33; Though let me say this: I would love to listen to all of the composers in this forum&#39;s work because it is inspiring and something new to listen to... it motivates me and probably many others to continue to compose... so don&#39;t be shy like me and post your music up&#33; good or bad, music is music. heck, a 4 year old banging pots is music&#33;

Wandering Mage
May 5th, 2004, 12:40 am
Not according to my parents. :shifty: lol
Archangel, can I try writing lyrics for this piece?
It just seems like something I could tackle at the moment, dunno why.



~Blessed be~

Archangel
May 5th, 2004, 01:17 am
uh... sure wandering mage. but it woulda been better to write out the lyrics before song but hey, give it a go. let me see what you get at the end. do you have a hotmail wandering mage?

Kenny
May 5th, 2004, 04:09 am
Hey archangel :D do you have anymore compositions? oh and did you downloaded finale notepad 2004 becasue i need help and... hey&#33; what&#39;s you music program can you make midi out of them? i really need a program that can convert music sheet into music midi&#39;s&#33;&#33;&#33; Finale doesn&#39;t convert so i only have the sheets.

Archangel
May 5th, 2004, 04:22 am
sorry. i don&#39;t have a writing program. again, my song and probably the rest from now on until i get sebelius are all done by hand. I basically play it on a piano, transfer by floppy, then go to computer and there&#39;s the final product. I&#39;m working on two other ones. I&#39;m trying to finish my first one though and i have a vocal song but it is bad cause no rhyme. anyways, even so, i need my friend to sing it for me again and record which probably won&#39;t happen cause that song sucks like crazy. so I&#39;m gonna finish songs without words first then try writing lyrics (write lyrics first, then try writing the music for it.... :heh:) anyways...
uh... i dunno about changing midi&#39;s. maybe do it my way, the low tech style or just get another program... :think:

Zero
May 5th, 2004, 04:31 am
Archangel, you&#39;re amazing O_O&#33;&#33;&#33;
those pieces are beautiful.. you must be really talented ^_^ congratulations...
I really enjoyed them ^^ looking forward to more great music from you :lol:

Kenny
May 5th, 2004, 04:31 am
Cool ok. :) thanks

shtell
May 5th, 2004, 09:11 am
sorry if its a bit late...

this is amzing if its your first compositions..

lol looks like yu hab a lot of anime piano solo influence...

it does sound different hehe youre good...

i liked the middle part... its nice and stands out...

hehe make another one

i like your music and i hope u get better..

Wandering Mage
May 5th, 2004, 09:03 pm
Originally posted by Archangel@May 4 2004, 05:17 PM
do you have a hotmail wandering mage?
WiseOwl11235 at hotmail.com
I just hope you don&#39;t live on the other side of America, otherwise it&#39;s going to be really hard to talk to you. :sweatdrop:



~Blessed be~

BurningClocks
May 8th, 2004, 04:10 am
Really awesome song ya got there&#33; ^_^ this song is soo cool&#33; Ur so talented&#33; ummm... i think this piece is very beautiful. ^_^

Archangel
May 12th, 2004, 06:44 am
thx burning clock. I listened to some of your compos. they&#39;re pretty sweet&#33;

weezie40er
May 17th, 2004, 11:19 pm
My goodness, that was beautiful. I&#39;m sitting here, listening to it, and crying. Wow, it&#39;s just so. . .amazing. Words can&#39;t express how wonderful it is. It&#39;s by far the most beautiful piece of music I&#39;ve ever heard. I would pay insane amounts of money for a copy of that and any other compositions you have, just to listen to them over and over again. It&#39;s so peaceful and freeing but so sad. Listening to this and other people&#39;s compositions on here gives me such a desire to learn how to play the piano and just, attempt, to do this. I really needed something like this because a classmate of mine just died over the weekend. Thank you for sharing this beauty. Out of 1OO, this a 1OO, above and beyond.

Archangel
May 18th, 2004, 04:02 am
thank you weezie for your wonderful, supportive feedback.

I am very sorry about your classmate. I can only imagine how it may feel for i never had such a tragic experience. again, I&#39;m very sorry.

I&#39;m humbled that you like my song. I don&#39;t write music for money, but just for it to be heard. I hope you will write music too&#33; If you do, I want to be the first to listen to it&#33;

Lovely_Spirit
May 18th, 2004, 04:12 am
Wow, I really like it&#33; It was so very pretty&#33; Indeed. ^_^

I look forward to hearing more of your work&#33; *nods head*

And to Weezie, I&#39;m sry to hear that...I actaully recently lost a friend of mine to Cancer two months ago and I understand that you must feel something awful. I hope you feel better.

weezie40er
May 19th, 2004, 10:12 pm
Thanks Archangel and Lovely_Spirit. This is only the 2nd death I&#39;ve had to deal with so it&#39;s been pretty hard. The 1st was another classmate less than 8 months ago. :( The funeral was today for the boy that died over the weekend and his dad played the song he wrote, sung, and played guitar on. So sad. :cry:

I need to start taking piano lessons. I like listening to random songs just to hear piano solos and just background piano. The piano is such a beautiful instrument and I&#39;ve just recently learned to appreciate the beauty that it makes.

Archangel
May 20th, 2004, 01:20 am
We should all appreciate the simplest things in life:
walking down a path, listening to music, seeing everything around us...
we take things for granted. We only realize how precious it is when we lose it.

what i like about music is that it defines your feelings and life.

when you start playing, it is like the first cry of life.
when you stumble or miss a note but continue playing, life&#39;s mistakes should not be played over again so it will look perfect, but continue with your life.
when you reach the climax of piece where it is the most uplifting and desireable moment, your achievements in life may inspire others to do the same but never know who they would be.
when you reach the final note of the song, silence, and with a bow, the piece is complete. when we reach the end, and we have done our best, we will bow and leave our song played in the hearts of those you knew and have heard your song of life.

Madmazda86
May 21st, 2004, 09:50 pm
That is a very profound and correct philosophical statement. I read somewhere of the Millennium Project Longplayer - a musical composition that will play for 1000 years with no repetition. It will outlast any of us, yet its source is little more than 6 pieces of music playing simultaneously in different combinations - in the same way life is like a series of pieces playing alongside each other, finishing at different times and creating different events in the music, from climaxes to solos to duets and other infinitely diverse creations.

A musical note is indeed a very versatile thing.

Moebius
May 23rd, 2004, 04:59 am
I won&#39;t rate it, but I will comment. ^_^

It&#39;s a pretty nice piece, obviously improvisatory in nature. Do you like Jazz music? It sounds like some of the mellower Jazz pieces.

If you want constructive criticism, well I only wished it were a bit more structured to give it some sense of form. But overall it&#39;s excellent, especially at your first try.

Archangel
May 23rd, 2004, 07:25 am
thx mobius. and yeah, i do kinda like jazz music. i&#39;m in the jazz band at my school. and no, my intent wasn&#39;t going for jazz music, then again, i didn&#39;t know what my intent on style of music was. It was something I wanted to do... To remind me of someone... so yeah...
i totally agree about the structure comment. lol, that was something i couldn&#39;t figure out to do in time since i made a due date on it to perform for an arts night which was about 2 months time from when i began writing it. I already began playing it by memory on piano for 4 to 6 months ahead of the arts night.

Gnomish
May 24th, 2004, 03:22 am
Wow&#33; Your song makes me jealous&#33; :P I wish my piano solos were as great as that&#33; :D

Spoonpuppet
May 24th, 2004, 09:16 pm
Gnomish, I don&#39;t think you should post your own compositions, good or not, in somebody else&#39;s thread. <_<

Noir7
June 3rd, 2004, 08:01 pm
Ouch. You really shouldn&#39;t post your compositions in one other&#39;s thread. I hope you didn&#39;t offend the topic starter. How to attach a file? There is a box for it below your typing-field.

^_^

Alfonso de Sabio
June 3rd, 2004, 08:09 pm
Oh, I&#39;m marvelously sorry. Honestly. This is my first time to ever use a message board. I thought it was just a place to post first compositions. Absolutely sorry. My sincerest apologies.

Alfonso de Sabio
June 3rd, 2004, 08:15 pm
As touching Archangel&#39;s composition, it has a wonderfully solid progression that balances the tension and resolution admirably well. However, it could use a good strong theme, or maybe not, since you obviously want it to sound... well "distant." Once again, so sorry about your string intrusion. I offended out of ignorance. Sorry.

Noir7
June 3rd, 2004, 08:21 pm
Hehe, I did the very same thing first time I posed on a forum. And I can agree on that the "Distant Thoughts" could use a sold theme, but that&#39;s just my opinion on what compositions should have.

Archangel
June 5th, 2004, 12:51 am
hey, alfonso, np, hehe, it&#39;s aight... no worries&#33; As long as you know what you did and fixed it immediately, it&#39;s all cool&#33; thx for your comments... all of you&#33; it&#39;s boosted my confidence that maybe i don&#39;t suck at composing as i thought i would be.. heheh..... anyways, thx again&#33;

Carnival
June 28th, 2004, 10:04 am
11/10

Archangel
July 14th, 2004, 08:20 am
thx cooldelic dude. I never knew that rating can go like that...lol :lol:

Carnival
July 14th, 2004, 09:12 am
now u know :D

M
July 21st, 2004, 01:54 am
Please tell me your going to be a composer for your future career. It has a professional feel that people lack (aka me). I hope you continue, and follow your dreams.

Archangel
July 21st, 2004, 06:46 am
I do hope to become a composer or something in the musical area. I have heard great piano solo&#39;s and composers and wish to be up to their level, if not better. Though I did quit piano, i hope to continue studying or have enough theory knowledge before university... hehe... o, and i always wanted a decent composition program... (want sebalius.... but i&#39;m willing to try anything now) :lol:
thx Mies for your comment.... really boosts my confidence in writing music now&#33;

KurumiAngel49
July 22nd, 2004, 07:58 pm
^_^ Can i have the sheet music to your beautiful distant thoughts?
That is a really good music compostion i want to learn it plz reply with music okie?

KurumiAngel49
July 22nd, 2004, 08:16 pm
My email is animeartist@verizon.net

Archangel
July 22nd, 2004, 10:20 pm
thx kurumiangel. But that may take awhile.... i only wrote it by hand... i have no music program whatsoever until i either get sebalius or get finale off a friend... unless you are really patient and i may get it done soon maybe..... but no garantees....

M
July 24th, 2004, 03:10 am
Their is a cheaper program called "musicwrite" By the good people of voyatra. I have never seen such a nice program at such a cheap price (&#036;90). It takes some-time to learn how to advanced rhythems but they are possible. Check it out. Demo&#39;s at the site. (not sure how it compares to sebalius though...)

Archangel
July 24th, 2004, 05:23 am
yeah, but you get what you buy.... i&#39;ll probably ask my band teacher to use her finale and print it out that way..... but you have to wait till september....haha.... a composer&#39;s crisis.... can&#39;t print his ideas out..... :doh:

Dimmer
July 24th, 2004, 06:19 pm
Really beautiful piece&#33; The harmonies are perfect. Could have been Nobuo Uematsu&#39;s composition. 9/10

Btw, this is my first post on this forum, I hope I&#39;ll enjoy it.

Sex
July 29th, 2004, 05:37 am
I&#39;d rate it 4/10. no comments.

KurumiAngel49
July 29th, 2004, 02:43 pm
:D ^_^ :P I love your song Distant Thoughts, can i have the music to it PLZ?
I cannot wiat till september plz try to send it okie? :whistle: :D XD

Vocalist69
July 29th, 2004, 07:10 pm
That&#39;s pimp. Live improvision? That&#39;s pretty accurate for a recording. Good job, Mozart.

9/10. How old are you? You&#39;re really good.

Vocalist69
July 29th, 2004, 07:11 pm
Originally posted by KurumiAngel49@Jul 29 2004, 02:43 PM
:D ^_^ :P I love your song Distant Thoughts, can i have the music to it PLZ?
I cannot wiat till september plz try to send it okie? :whistle: :D XD
You&#39;re guy, Phil. Sailor Moon? Hahaha...i guess they&#39;re cute.

Archangel
July 31st, 2004, 08:31 am
hehe, i&#39;m going to ask a friend to let me borrow finale. thx for all your comments. I&#39;m 16 and yeah, that&#39;s live. for everyone, thx again for your comments&#33; stay tuned for my next one...

M
August 3rd, 2004, 02:55 am
Well, after 72 hours of examination I found somthing wrong with the music....

Some of your note values are that less of a 64th note, which is nearly unheard-of in music (but is okay if that is what you want :) ). Not to mention that their are random notes in the midi pattern, that have to audio to them.

That took a wile. I&#39;m looking forward to your next piece of music, and was a joy tring to find somthing wrong with an almost perfect piece of music.

Archangel
August 3rd, 2004, 06:00 am
lol, i was waiting for someone to pick that up. congrats Mies, your the first one&#33;
yes, there are some notes that don&#39;t even exist in the song, but here is the thing: i don&#39;t really have the greatest at keeping the tempo.... i know what it should, but when i play, i kinda throw that out... but i should work on that... hehe, i did play this live so there will be mistakes. once i get a program to write music out, i&#39;ll fix that kink out and smoothen my music for final copy.....hopefully...... and now i&#39;m waiting to the end of summer so i can again go back to my friends house and do more recordings and post them up..... urgh..... but besides that, I thank you all for your feedback&#33;

Vi3t-Sekciiness
August 6th, 2004, 10:32 pm
...can i have your autograph too? x.x;

Liquid Feet
August 8th, 2004, 03:55 am
Absolutely Beautiful&#33; I usually am not this ecstatic about a song, but this is simply marvelous&#33; I really liked how you played it, because it didn&#39;t seem to have a beat at all, which is a technique I adore. The song is very ethereal in nature, giving the title a load of accuracy. If this truly is one of your beginning compositions, then I see great things in your future.

If I had to choose between the first or second version, i would choose the first, because i like what you did about 1:50 in the song better than the same sequence slightly changed in the second version.

VERDICT

+ ~ Beautiful, boundless melody
+ ~ Echoing, Ethereal chord progression
- ~ Uhh... Uhh... *runs away*

OVERALL GRADE ~ 5/5 Superb d-(o_0)-b

ADDITIONAL NOTE ~ I demand sheet music for this song&#33; I&#39;m afraid that I might get cancer if I don&#39;t get my hands on a copy, so please - for the sake of my life - program it into a composer of some sort and give me a copy&#33;

That is all. ^^

Archangel
August 8th, 2004, 06:56 am
again, due to my schedule, i may finish writing and posting it up at the end or beginning of september... i&#39;m sorry if this is an inconvenience to ppl, but again, i dont&#39; have a writing program, i will be asking a friend to burn me finale tomorrow, but i&#39;ll be away on vacation and other things that i do not wish to bore you with.
thanks again for all your wonderful comments&#33; and ureshii, i pray that you will not get cancer anytime soon because i too want this song posted&#33;

Liquid Feet
August 8th, 2004, 02:13 pm
I can wait, but I will flood your mailbox with personal messages in september. My doctor says its the only way I can negate the effects of cancer.

Archangel
August 11th, 2004, 02:05 am
k, i do know that the song should be finish around september before the haul of homework sets in for the year. so by then, hopefully ppl will still be interested in the music sheet....

KurumiAngel49
August 15th, 2004, 09:42 pm
I WILL BE STILL WANTING THE SHEETS FOREVER&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; :P

Darren
August 20th, 2004, 09:59 am
impressive&#33; It&#39;s very original and filled with passion.

can you describe in details how you compose this song? I am very interested. I haven&#39;t heard of a piece full of freedom like this for quite a while.
did you compose it by "letting your fingers dance freely on the piano"? or did you compose it with melodies, and then add chords? or, by using IV V vi chord prgression as guideline, and then add melodies?

how long did it take you to compose it?
did you actually written down the notes, or do you just commit them into memories? If you did write it down on a paper, can you scan it into pdf/tiff for us?
what inspires/sparks you to compose this song?

.....countless questions.

Archangel
August 24th, 2004, 06:47 am
hehe, thanks Darren. I&#39;ll try and answer your questions as best as i can....


can you describe in details how you compose this song?
well, most of you may know this, but i quit piano at grade/level 8. after that, i just wanted to play what i felt like playing. i first taught myself the most basic pattern: G chord, then D chord, then C chord, and D chord again... and repeating it (that was from watching the worship team pianist at church). later on i just fiddled around with different ways of patterns. at some point, i played something that i liked and kept playing it, adding on new parts to it. the beginning of the song "Distant thoughts" is actually not how i started. I began a little later from the scale going down. after listening to my draft, there was no story, so i continued to compose on it. after maybe the third draft i had the rough layout of the song, which is what you hear on the midi. all i did was did finishing touches.


did you compose it by "letting your fingers dance freely on the piano"? or did you compose it with melodies, and then add chords? or, by using IV V vi chord prgression as guideline, and then add melodies?
yes, all was freely. just &#39;let it happen&#39;. most of the time, i play something and forget how i did it... luckily i remembered the parts and wrote it down immediately on paper... progression....... i dunno...... i don&#39;t really think about that after learning basic progressions... i just think &#39; i want this part to sound happy(major chord) and this part sad (minor chord) but yeah, no thoughts on progressions...


how long did it take you to compose it?
truthfully, i don&#39;t really know. rough guess would have to be last year around september since i performed it around end of march or early april for a school art performance. then i posted it up after registering in ichigo.


did you actually written down the notes, or do you just commit them into memories? If you did write it down on a paper, can you scan it into pdf/tiff for us?
well, again, i play the part many times over to remember and see if i like it, then write it down on paper. probably more ppl would just play and write immediately after. for me, i like long periods of time to write music out. rushing it would only ruin the song since i did it out of haste. i like to just take my time... sorry for the people who want the music.... i&#39;m going to try to put it in a pdf or something....lol.....patience is a virtue...believe it or not....


what inspires/sparks you to compose this song?
alot inspired me.... composers like Brian Mcknight who does play piano and i like his style of music... anime music after watching inuyasha and finally heard a good anime song (pokemon and digimon was the only shows i&#39;ve watched that was made by japanese anime....), the ppl in the composition thread........................................but mostly.......let&#39;s just say a special person was my main inspiration. she moved away and that is why i call it &#39;distant thoughts&#39;......

anymore questions?

sukino
August 24th, 2004, 07:40 am
Great song with an interesting Title. :/

How do you record the music? While you are playing the piano?

Darren
August 24th, 2004, 09:26 am
Originally posted by Archangel@Aug 24 2004, 06:47 AM
let&#39;s just say a special person was my main inspiration. she moved away and that is why i call it &#39;distant thoughts&#39;......
I see...
that reminds me of the motivation of my first composition also, except the situation is the opposite: I left her. The reason is that I had to follow my parents to emigrate to US. That time I was 15, and I was too young to have courage to determine this relationship (you know, in China is not as liberal as here in US, and I was not sure about how she feels about me), until the farewell party; I saw her crying secretly.... but all is too late. She didn&#39;t have an email account, so I don&#39;t even know how to contact her. All that is remaining is the memory...

So I named my piece "The Last Memory",
I don&#39;t mean to share it, but since the motivations for both our pieces are similar, I might just post it, even it is boring, repetitive, primitive/naive... after all, I didn&#39;t touch piano until my 17th year (when I finally earned enough money to buy one). I composed it on a keyboard and wrote it down into sheet music using Cakewalk pro Audio, which later I learns that it&#39;s not nearly as good as Finale or even Noteworthy Composer. anyhow, hopefully you can hear the mixture of joy and sadness in this piece ---- memory is sweet yet painful, because you know that it&#39;s just memory; it&#39;s in the past; not current nor in the future, but in the past...

ok, enough about myself, back to your piece.
You said that you&#39;ve performed it in a school concert, did the staff record it in a CD for you? (that&#39;s usually what they do in school concerts). If so, can you somehow isolate your track and convert it into mp3? The quality of midi recording is quite limited. Although I am amazed how it sounds so beautiful already , I would like to hear a more perfected version. sorry for being completely a nerdy perfectionist, B) , but I am sure that&#39;s also what other people want, right, everyone?
[Archangel is mumbling something...]
---- I know, I know, Patience, right? ^_^

Noir7
August 24th, 2004, 01:04 pm
Hm, the song itself is okay, but I can&#39;t connect it with memories. When I listen to it, I don&#39;t get the feeling of leaving someone and then remembering that person. However, I didn&#39;t shut it off until it ended. The melody is quite memorable and relaxing, but needs some improvement. Maybe you should try out a different structure? Such as beginning with an intro, and then slowly heading to the climax (the main melody) of the song, and that way make it more colourful. The left hand was dull. I know you noticed that too, because it sinks the melody down a bit here and there with its repetitious 1-2-3 notes. As an overall, I can&#39;t say you did a bad job, for that would be lying. =] It&#39;s good, but that&#39;s it. I don&#39;t know if the song itself has potentional, but I think you have, so good luck in the future.

oô; I don&#39;t know wheter I should give it a 6.5 or a 7, since 6.5 looks bad when you compare it to a perfect 10, but it doesn&#39;t mean that the song sucks because of that.

Well, I&#39;ll give it a 6.5/10

Darren
August 24th, 2004, 07:15 pm
Originally posted by Noir7@Aug 24 2004, 01:04 PM
oô; I don&#39;t know wheter I should give it a 6.5 or a 7, since 6.5 looks bad when you compare it to a perfect 10, but it doesn&#39;t mean that the song sucks because of that.
thanks for your directness, Noir, and no worries, I figured that it&#39;s pretty bad as I said before, "even it&#39;s boring, repetitive, primitive/naive..."
since I wanted to preserve that special emotion in the piece, I decided to preserve this original/unrefined version and didn&#39;t make any refinement on it.
but when I hear you said that, "I can&#39;t connect it with memories", I was a little disappointed. probably the emotion is too subtle...., maybe I should really compose a better version for this piece...

though not now :sweatdrop: ; I am currently working on the CMA of this month (everyone should try it, it&#39;s quite fun and chanllenging to compose underpressure in a reasonable amount of time-- a month)

so Archangel, you should at least join next month&#39;s CMA, because it will be a piano piece--- your specialty
and Noir, it&#39;s a bit unfair for us because you simply post up an old composition that&#39;s already made. I guess this month is special, but hopefully next month you&#39;ll actually make some new stuff. I heard your soundtracks, and I can&#39;t wait to hear more songs from you. ;)
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I&#39;ll post up a new topic if I ever done with my new "The Last Memory", but until then, I think we should stop talking about that, after all it&#39;s in Archangel&#39;s topic. therefore, I apologize to you, Archangel, I posted it simply due to excitement when I learned your motivation for your piece.

Noir7
August 24th, 2004, 07:21 pm
Originally posted by Darren@Aug 24 2004, 08:15 PM
it&#39;s a bit unfair for us because you simply post up an old composition that&#39;s already made.
Well, I don&#39;t see why it would be unfair, since other people might as well post old compositions not intentionally written for the CMA of this month. I know what you mean though, and I will compose new songs for the upcoming contests. (Also note that I can&#39;t compose new songs right now, since I don&#39;t have my computer yet.)

Sorry for the off-topics, Archangel, just wanted to make things clear. :)

Archangel
August 25th, 2004, 03:38 am
i recorded my song on a friend&#39;s keyboard which had a floppy drive (lol, back to the wonderful floppys.... gotta love them). all that you hear is me playing. no, the concert did not record... it was merely a talent show to get money for my incentive program trips. the midi format is the only thing i got recorded for my song.

Darren, i haven&#39;t heard your song yet cause i&#39;m on a computer with no speakers. i&#39;ll listen to it when i get back to my computer which does have speakers. don&#39;t worry about adding your song. lol. Excitement is good&#33;
to the CMA. i&#39;ve already entered this song before and have tied with Michael. If you haven&#39;t heard his compositions before, i suggest you do&#33; I do not think I can enter my song since my song has already won.... i was wondering if we should have a post with just showing who won what month because i keep seeing a july or august post for CMA but i don&#39;t know who won. would the moderator please post the CMA winners?

Noir7
August 25th, 2004, 09:24 am
The winners are posted in the "Ichigo&#39;s Awards" thread or something like that. (Announcements and Feedback)

Darren
August 26th, 2004, 07:47 am
Originally posted by Archangel@Aug 25 2004, 03:38 AM
I do not think I can enter my song since my song has already won....
but you can always make new ones ^_^

Archangel
August 26th, 2004, 08:53 am
yeah, true. hopefully i can get it out soon...
didn&#39;t see the thread with the winners.... well, now i know where to look for it&#33;
congrats Noir7&#33;
we missed alot of CMA months didn&#39;t we?

EDIT: i just got to listen to Darren&#39;s song. very nice&#33; very flowing. i&#39;m guessing your chinese cause it&#39;s a very chinese song. it&#39;s like a memory... i can sense it. but if your going to fix this song up, i&#39;m looking forward to the final product&#33; cause this is an awesome start and hope you can finish it&#33; i&#39;m not going to rate it cause this may not be your final product, so i will wait. awesome job Darren&#33;

JAPPO
August 28th, 2004, 01:33 am
its a masterpeice :D it would suit a anime very well, 10/10 and maybe even bonus points if JAPPO feels n&#39; a good mood lol :P anyway good job.

KurumiAngel49
August 28th, 2004, 10:31 pm
hey sry to bother you again with your music but um...
when you do write the music sheets to Distant Thoughts, um would it be possible if i could play it for a piano competition I&#39;m having some time around Christmas?
I would be very much appreciated if I could so um thanks in advance&#33;

Archangel
August 29th, 2004, 08:39 am
good news... i finally have a writing program&#33; but it&#39;s finale 2001... but it will do for now... unless there is a problem with it... cause i&#39;m new to the program and learning along the way.... i&#39;ll try and finish it before christmas&#33; and sure kurumiangel, you can perform distant thoughts&#33;... once i finish writing it up&#33;

KurumiAngel49
August 29th, 2004, 03:29 pm
:D :D :D OMG THANKS SO SO SO SO MUCH&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;
I&#39;m going to have the song detcated to you, or whatever,
Um do you think that Sarah will let me play spectrums in that competition also?
:D :D When do you think you&#39;ll be done writing it? :heh:

Matt
August 29th, 2004, 07:08 pm
Um do you think that Sarah will let me play spectrums in that competition also? How the hell should he know <_<

When do you think you&#39;ll be done writing it?

i&#39;ll try and finish it before christmas&#33;

I&#39;m going to have the song detcated to you
Why should you dedicate the song to him, it&#39;s his song&#33;

thumby
August 30th, 2004, 06:43 am
I&#39;m no professional composer or music critic. But I do know what I like.
Very smooth and relaxing piece. Unbelievable for a first shot. Keep up the good work.

Archangel
August 31st, 2004, 03:53 am
thanks aaron. I&#39;ll try and improve my compositions as i progress in composition&#33;

thumby
September 6th, 2004, 10:01 am
btw, how old are you, archangel?

Archangel
September 9th, 2004, 01:30 am
i think i&#39;ve already mentioned how old i am....

jasonc
September 9th, 2004, 02:59 am
Nice composition archangel&#33; I wish I could compose like you do. Btw, how do you compose? Do you compose the melody first or the base part?

Darren
September 9th, 2004, 05:02 am
interesting, we have asked the same question.

Archangel
September 9th, 2004, 05:47 am
i actually play both melody and base at the same time... i just let my hands go wherever they want and what sounds good i take in memory... ^_^

jasonc
September 9th, 2004, 06:01 am
Wow&#33; You&#39;re really good. I find it easier to compose the melody first then apply the base later. How &#39;bout you darren?

Darren
September 9th, 2004, 07:47 pm
mmn, I actually use the mixture of both.
in other words, I compose the melody first, then add chords/bass on them. Then I will use the same chord progression and compose the variation of the theme on top of the chords.

but sometimes I will just do what Archangle does. ^_^

KurumiAngel49
September 13th, 2004, 11:46 pm
:D It is September 13&#33;&#33;&#33; Hey did you by any chance finish writing your song at all?
I&#39;m very anxious to learn it&#33;&#33; :D
When you do please put a link to it or e-mail it to me, okie? :rolleyes:

*EdIt*
What type of keyboard or program did you use to make Distant Thoughts? :rolleyes:

Archangel
September 15th, 2004, 02:42 am
again, i used my friends keyboard, so i don&#39;t really remember. i&#39;m sorry, but i have bad news. i don&#39;t think i&#39;ll be able to finish my song and post it due to personal reasons. i hope you find another good song kurumiangel. for now, this song has been put aside as finished until further notice. i&#39;m am starting on my other songs and perfecting them.

even though i stopped working on this, i still appreciate comments and criticism from any who wish to comment or critisize my song&#33;

DarkMagician
September 15th, 2004, 10:55 am
criticism?

i doubt you&#39;ll get any from me for definite&#33; its gorgeous...peaceful yet thoughtful (ok they may not be words that can be put together...but in this case it&#39;ll have to&#33;&#33; -_- )

congrates and keep it up&#33; ^_^

KurumiAngel49
September 15th, 2004, 07:03 pm
Okay i will thanks for trying tho&#33;

Archangel
September 20th, 2004, 07:10 am
thanks dark magician&#33;

angelanime
September 20th, 2004, 11:12 pm
wow is this really the first composition?i don&#39;t believe it&#33; it&#39;s beautiful ^_^

KurumiAngel49
September 21st, 2004, 07:19 pm
Hey archangel I need to talk to you asap ok write back fast aight, it&#39;s about your music&#33;&#33;

Archangel
September 22nd, 2004, 01:41 am
what about my music?

KurumiAngel49
September 22nd, 2004, 11:11 am
I have sheet music for it&#33;&#33;&#33;

Archangel
September 23rd, 2004, 02:00 am
how did you get the sheet music?

Liquid Feet
September 23rd, 2004, 02:41 am
you can import the midi file into noteworthy composer or something and it will notate it for you. the only problem is that the notation is really choppy and gross-looking, so although i have the ability to get a crummy version of the song now, I&#39;ll wait for a good version of the song.

Archangel
September 23rd, 2004, 04:59 am
........okay, here&#39;s the deal. i wish you don&#39;t do that without permission. I dont&#39; want ppl to notation it out.

Al
September 23rd, 2004, 05:00 am
I know this isn&#39;t the place for me to say it . . . but somebody should make a rule concerning this matter. It&#39;s been happening too much lately.

Archangel
September 23rd, 2004, 06:04 am
yeah, i hope one of the moderators will make that rule up soon...

DarkMagician
September 23rd, 2004, 08:13 am
when you do have written up the music, tell us....i want it too&#33;&#33;&#33; :D

KurumiAngel49
September 23rd, 2004, 11:16 am
I&#39;m sry archangel

Ayanami
September 23rd, 2004, 05:33 pm
To lighten up the mood. Great song&#33; And kurumi, try not to do things without permission so much...and no copying

Archangel
September 24th, 2004, 04:19 am
k, after reading some posts in composition, i feel that i&#39;ve been used and ppl have been trying to copy my song. Right now i&#39;m contemplating if i should remove my song from this forum...

edit: forget what i said on top... said that out of anger... i&#39;ll leave it up...

TrumpetPLaya42
September 27th, 2004, 04:05 am
I like it, ya know. (not from wisconsin). The beginning reminded me of FFX. I dunno. It just sounded like a cross of suteki da ne and To Zanarkand. otherwise its nice. Could you possibly hear out my composition?

Archangel
September 27th, 2004, 04:41 am
sure trumpet, i&#39;d love to hear what you&#39;ve wrote&#33; whats your style?

TrumpetPLaya42
September 27th, 2004, 05:09 am
I like happy, intense stuff, ya know. I don&#39;t have all the full orchestra parts, but I jammed together a piano part for my first good composition (if you don&#39;t like it, Imagine what the others were like). The last part is my friends&#39; idea. I will have others soon, like Saturday, so wait a while for better stuff.
Errr... There are some wierd things in it that sound like mistakes, but it really is like 4 of the same note overlapping. Yeah, I know it&#39;s simple, but hey. I just turned 13. Gimme a break. By the way. I play all instruments except double reeds, flute, and clarinet. Come see me if ya need help an stuff. THX&#33;

Archangel
September 27th, 2004, 05:28 am
wow, for a thirteen year old, that&#39;s pretty good&#33; i&#39;m impressed. it&#39;s just some parts that the instrument is too loud. good structure. you have a nice layout of your melody and you added the bass and other instruments to accompany the piano really well. i think it&#39;s ready to get ppl to comment on it cause i think it&#39;s ready. to do so, go click on new post and that way there is a thread just for your song and everyone can comment on your awesome song&#33; i hope to hear more of your songs&#33; keep it up.

Rate:9.5/10

NemisisAlice789
September 28th, 2004, 12:07 am
Hey nice song Archangel&#33;
Man I wish I could write music like that I couldn&#39;t write music if my life depended on it&#33; XD&#33;

(9.5/10)

TrumpetPLaya42
September 28th, 2004, 12:39 am
Thx, archangel, I appreciate it&#33; ^_^ I do have about 3 other ones that aren&#39;t really bad (I actually wrote the full orchestra part for "O joyous joy") but they&#39;re on another drive which I cannot get to right now.
As a response to your comment about the notes being too loud, I&#39;m sorry about that. I was just so eager to post my song. See, my full orchestra and the good version are on the other drive. I just put together that song with the chords and stuff in about 10 minutes on Digital Orchestrator. I look forward to hearing your future compositions too&#33; (in truth, i&#39;m really glad I can talk to ppl as into music as I am :) )

Selinity
September 29th, 2004, 11:30 pm
^_^ i love it&#33; sounds very complex and unique&#33; i&#39;dr ate 10/10, since i don&#39;t find any disturbance to it, according to my liking. Hehe, i&#39;m still practicing composing, didn&#39;t go to piano school, but hey i taught myself how to play, so why not learn how to compose as well. anyways, great job you&#39;ve got here&#33; keep up the good work&#33;


p.s.: got any new compositions? :lol:

:neko:

Archangel
September 30th, 2004, 12:09 am
hehe, thx everybody. i am trying to get a song going, two actually... but for now i&#39;m working on a performance for a band camp... so i&#39;ll have to hold off the compositions for a little bit... but i really want to get another one up soon&#33;

DarkMagician
October 4th, 2004, 12:11 pm
good luck with that and eagerly waiting for your coming ups

TrumpetPLaya42
October 6th, 2004, 10:38 pm
Hey archangel. do you live anywhere near sacramento? If so, I may even know you

Archangel
October 8th, 2004, 03:43 am
where is sacramento?

TrumpetPLaya42
October 8th, 2004, 04:21 am
heh... I guess you don&#39;t live there, then. :heh: It&#39;s in california in the United States in North America. Well. you sounded like someone I knew, but obviously not. Just wondering, does this forum actually operate outside of america?
by the way, this is the music writing program. It&#39;s really good for scores and stuff, but you have to write two different tracks for a piano part. It also doesn&#39;t do 8va, or triplets, or grace notes. You have to write in yourself. have fun (for all you ppl dying to hear something you&#39;ve composed, download it and write it in dig orc. it helps)

Yui
October 15th, 2004, 03:11 am
I must be very late on replying this considering it is the ninth page, but I guess that that means that the music is very nicely composed.

I am listening to it and I think it it wonderful, better than I can do ^^

Archangel
October 15th, 2004, 04:46 am
thanks for your comments&#33; and no, it&#39;s not too late, i&#39;m very happy that you have given me some comment&#33; hehe, this is still going, amazing... anyways, there has been some things in my life that have somewhat prevented me to do any work on my new songs... hehe.... so it&#39;s all on hold at the time being, but i&#39;ll see how long this song will last for....

Whiplash
October 28th, 2004, 11:53 pm
Oh it&#39;s great, I just have one thing to say, When you get to your 8th composition, skip your 9th and go to your tenth :)

Derek
October 30th, 2004, 11:10 pm
:P Wow, Archangel is very talented....
You should publish your song....11/10

Liquid Feet
November 7th, 2004, 03:22 pm
how&#39;s "Distant thoughts" coming along, archangel?

Archangel
November 8th, 2004, 03:17 am
lol, i have midterms at the moment... so it&#39;s on hold.... i&#39;m on the third page i think.... so half way through....

~Ryoko~
November 19th, 2004, 07:45 pm
yea. mid-terms bite. but great song&#33; :D

Archangel
December 11th, 2004, 11:23 pm
woah, such a long time i haven&#39;t replied here... thx ryoko&#33; I just performed another song i wrote for winter concert at my school. ppl say it was awesome... i still need to work on it. I&#39;ve been thinking about ichigo&#39;s composition thread lately, and I thought maybe I will just have only this composition on this forum. I might be able to publish my songs later... i don&#39;t know if they&#39;re good or not, ppl say it is. I still don&#39;t think i&#39;ve achieved to the level of a professional composer yet. But the bottom line is that this will probably my first and last song i&#39;ll post.

Al
December 12th, 2004, 04:59 am
I don&#39;t know why I never posted here before :heh: but just so you don&#39;t think I&#39;m ignoring you, I&#39;ll make a quick comment:

Great piece . . all these people who enjoyed it can&#39;t be wrong. I&#39;ve always wanted to write something like this. =) It&#39;s a shame you won&#39;t post your next song, but I can understand where you&#39;re coming from. Good luck with your composing future&#33;

yellowmonkey121
December 12th, 2004, 05:49 am
wow.. this piece is way better than mine all together. very nice.

nessaholic888
December 24th, 2004, 02:15 am
:drool: I think that is a really good song you have there. I think that you should like put all of your best compositions onto a CD, like I have just done. (I don&#39;t think they&#39;ll be out in stores tho XD) Want a rating? 9.5/10

Hey can you tell me how long it took to write/record that song?
If I ever get a chance, and I ever find my CD&#39;s I&#39;ll will post them so you can hear them. Some of mine have lyrics and the piano parts are written by me.

GOOD LUCK WITH ANY FUTURE COMPOSITIONS&#33; :thumb:

Archangel
December 24th, 2004, 10:50 am
k, update to anyone whom has somewhat curiosity...
I have continued to write music. I&#39;ve finished a christmas piece with a vocal in it. not the greatest. That piece was experimenting harmony. I am still finding new ideas, but it&#39;s all in my head... lol. I now have finale 2004 to use to write music. and yes, I would like my songs to be on a cd. but I need to write more songs in order to do that. I&#39;m also checking out recording studio equipment such as recording programs: protools, cubass, Neuendo... Also looking at microphones to record both instruments and vocals, and also stereo equipment to of course listen to the songs, and a keyboard worth 1000 bucks. Either that, or my dream synthesizer MOTIF ES8 which is &#036;4,000.

Thanks again to all of you for your support and comments&#33;&#33;&#33; They are much appreciated and has helped me write more songs.