Some of my older comps that I did before registering here.
Edit: It now appears that all of my attachments are kablooie! So I am reposting as many as possible... PLease forgive if they don't go in chronological order...

I dunno how to attach more than one file... THIS WAS MY FIRST!!!! Glomp... and my favorite. "O Joyous Joy!" This was the only song of mine ever performed, though I'm still vainly trying to write a score for it (originally just for piano). It was performed (with a finale added by a friend of mine) by an alto sax and me on the trumpet. The finale isn't on there yet, because I've just been to lazy to write it.

This was my first "not happy" one. I like this one quite a bit too. Though I don't play it on the piano this way, it was the only way I could make it fit into the measures. (sounds kinda crappy the way it is now).

This one I can only take part credit for. This was a demo on the orchestration program (no copywrites I've seen), with a few things added by me.

This one... was an accident as the name implies. I was just playing around on the piano and thought "hey, that sounds cool" (i seem to do this a lot [most times it doesn't work]). Not one of my favorites.

This is the one that was performed (the trumpet part is raised an octave). With the finale by the same friend that played in it.

CHIHANG:
I couldn't really tell what mode/scale you were using . . kinda nice that I had to guess, heh.

COMP1_1 / OJOYOU_1:
Nice, short, and simple. Definitely that "joyful" mood . . this shows that a lot can still be done with even just around three chords, eh? Nice exchanges between the two instruments.

COMP2:
Actually, it does sound a bit happy to me . . happy in a sneaky way!

DEMONEW:
Too repetitive for me, it didn't go anywhere . . but hey, it wasn't your song, like, you just tweaked it, right? So, nice additions, because I bet you greatly improved on the original version.

Accident:
You thought that was an accident? Oh no no, it's great, just expand on it now.

Good job. 7/10 overall.

Haven't been on in a while... Thank you both. About chinese hangover (my friend thought of the name [don't look at me]) I used a scale that I believe is the melodic minor...? It has two flats and is in C. I know that it's used for the diminished c 7th in jazz, but I have no clue as to what it's called. Mebbe some help on that. Ich... I just composed this from the time I began writing this post to the end. ACCIDENT is not so much of an accident any longer. I added a new melody. Doesn't quite fit, and it needs to be longer. Help on that, i need...


Edit: I lied. Just finished it. Still need suggestions, tho.

I liked the new version of Accident, it was a nice Semi Fast song, gave me a RPG Boss like feeling, but it wouldn't be fit for it, overall I say it a 8/10 (Btw, don't listen to me, I just a crazy newb)

Here's another one. This is my first happy song in a while. It's called hope. ( I have a question. there are two "hope" files, both with different counting. Could you tell me which one sounds better?)

BTW!!!! I MUST KNOW HOW TO CHANGE THE TOPIC TITLE (AND HOW TO COMPILE MULTIPLE POSTS)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <_<

ANDDD...... clapclapclapclapclap.... APPLAUSE&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;
HOPE... 2&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; <Cue cheesy music>

My head&#39;s not working right now =&#092; short term memory isn&#39;t able to compare the two . . but for some reason I think Hope2 is better . .

This one isn&#39;t finished yet. I just have 2 strains of 8 measures. In truth, being a video game addict, I stole some ideas from Poke&#39;mon 2ooo, Halo:halo:, and Megaman Legends 2 Yonsonke (spelling error...?). This is new to my tastes, but I like where it&#39;s going. Mebbe suggestions :frusty:... THANKOO&#33; O... the wierd things in the beginning are supposed to be choir voices.

It&#39;s okay to get inspiration from other sources, but instead of stealing, try studying them and applying your knowledge in order to write something better or different from what you originally heard. That way you&#39;ll improve and become a good composer =)

Anyways, to me, your piece sounds like two separate songs . . the beginning choir part is so completely different from the faster part that they might as well be different songs. Then again, if you want, maybe you could write in a transition passage connecting the two parts? I don&#39;t know, that&#39;s just me.

For choral pieces, be sure to look up baroque pieces from Bach, etc. It&#39;ll give you help on how to work with the harmony and voices ^^

This is my first jazz piece... I only have a head and chord progression, I have no melody... PLEASE HELP&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;
Edit: I realize the piece sucks... sooo. I am going to finish it and redo the attachment when it is done.

Although I&#39;m not an expert, but to be honest . . it doesn&#39;t sound like jazz to me =&#092;

It&#39;s not really a jazz piece (yet). See, what it is is a chord progression that can be used to create jazz solos... In my jazz band we improvise using things like this... I just need a melody... How come noone knows about jazz?

OMG OMG!!!! :o THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH AL FOR YOUR WORDS!!! It's as if I have new resolve (mebbe I do). This is my longest and I think my best yet. It has a melody one of my friends just gave up on, so I took it and added a whole bunch, including a whole new chord progression. When it switches to 3/4 (I can't really tell w/out lookin at the music) you can hear the modified version of it.
Edit: I just noticed it could be looped... Tho it doesn't sound RPGish.

o.0 what words did I say?

This one is nice ^^ . . everything is clear and laid out properly. I think some people might be put off by the repetition of chords (which is why your piece can be looped), but I didn&#39;t mind. Yeah, I couldn&#39;t tell the 3/4 switch, that&#39;s a neat trick&#33;

Weell... You said that you shouldn&#39;t let other peoples accomplishments put me off composing... then I realized you were right&#33; Every piece I&#39;ve put on for the last while has been unfinished or really bad&#33; Sooo... i decided to finish one before I put it on Ichigo&#39;s (which was, in fact, the solution you proposed to me). Thank you so much&#33; you worked me out of a rough spot in my career&#33; :worshippy: :worshippy:

Y know... Noir7 has never really taken an interest in my compositions... I wonder why that is? You two (Al and Noir7) seem to be the leading commentators on compositions for new composers and old (and your opinion seems to be the most valuable)... Hmmm. i would like to hear what he has to say about my stuff, though.

Ahhh, a double post&#33;&#33; ;__; And me with the one-on-one chat ;__;

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Now now, you can&#39;t say he&#39;s never taken an interest in your compositions. There could be many reasons why he hasn&#39;t commented. You&#39;ll have to ask him. As for me, I know what it feels like to have a song ignored by everybody . . so I try to find the time to post a little something for everyone . . it&#39;s better than nothing, right? That&#39;s why I post so much in here.

And no, my opinion isn&#39;t the most valuable&#33; =P Every critique you get is equally valuable . . they all help you learn and improve, depending on how you take the criticism.

EDIT: I realize now that my critiques are getting repetitive, haha . . look at some of madmazda86&#39;s comments . . they&#39;re very nice, always detailed and full of good suggestions . . me, I don&#39;t really know what I&#39;m saying&#33; I don&#39;t have the time to be as informative as her ^^ But yeah, this is just to prove my point again: all critiques are helpful.

I should get back into critiquing compositions as well - I&#39;ve been shamefully neglectful thanks to my now long-running tumultuous affair with the RP XD I have been meaning to comment on Gnomish&#39;s compos in particular for AGES and all these new composers as well - argh, so many, lots to catch up with&#33;

This is a new one, and I believe the only one of mine that features a percussion track, though it's a bit small in the variety of instruments that it has. This one is actually one of my first that has an intro and a finale (though the actual body is only about 8 measures <_< ) Well, I hope you enjoy it. Thanks.

Doesn&#39;t work for me . .

Edit: so NOW it does >.>

Anyways =) . . hehe, when you said percussion, I thought you meant you used drums to give a beat . . meh, I like it this way better. Your bells obviously play an important role in your piece . . so hmm, how about having more than one bell? Like, keep the one you already have, but use another one (smaller/softer) that has a motive? You know, tie everything in together? *shrugs* just a thought ^^

I like hope 1. two seems slower, nad less "happy" i guess

Originally posted by sAxMaStA69@Dec 19 2004, 05:59 AM
I like hope 1. two seems slower, nad less "happy" i guess
Finally posting, "Saxmasta?" Good thing, too. You should definitely start your own compositions page&#33; And al, that might just be a good Idea&#33; :doh: Why didn&#39;t I think of that? Mebbe instead of calling it "running out of time," To give it a holiday feel... "christmas shopping?" Or mebbe, "the last day of school before christmas break?" Meh. Well, I entered it in the contest (with practically no hope of winning)... I probably should&#39;ve listened to the others&#39; entries before I braved it... <sigh> LOOk FORWARD TO MY NEXT PIECE&#33;&#33;&#33;

Yes finally posting, and maybe you can come over one day and help me with making a composition page. I hate computers, and wont even try making my songs into midi files. If thats how you even do it.

Still out of all your darn compositions, I still like "o joyous joy" the best. Probably because I was the, i guess "co creator" of it.

Um... this may not be the right thread to post in, but what happens with the Christmas competition? When will the winner be announced? Im rather new at this. If it&#39;s not the right thread, could someone direct me to the right one? THANKs

well.. ive ben listening to your pieces and i came to realize that you use a lot of repetition.... which isnt that bad for RPG game songs. (and it seems like that what you are going for)

Perhaps... I believe you&#39;re the first to actually say so, though... I don&#39;t really know exactly what to do for an RPG song, tho... Meh. -_- I just do my best. Thanks for the compliment, tho. ^_^ .

Well, most RPG songs are designed to be looped - the idea is that they merge into the background while you&#39;re playing. If you had too unique a piece then it distracts people from playing the game, though at the same time if it&#39;s too repetitive then people fail to even register the music playing. Most RPG composers from what I&#39;ve seen use themes and motifs for different characters/locations that are loopable, and then they use variations upon these themes in other places. This is rather similar to anime and musicals, for example Phantom of the Opera uses variations of the title songs as background music during the show, and in animes e.g. .hack//SIGN character themes are varied for playing later on in the show so the music doesn&#39;t get dull when played over and over again (for example, BT&#39;s theme has two versions that are played - a piano solo and a violin/piano duet, and both sound different but you can recognise them as variations of a theme)

nice compostions&#33; ^_^

Well, I just keep breaking my record for longest song... This one repeats a lot, and I suppose it's the first one that can't really be looped. Um, has the guy that wrote Yankee Doodle been dead for 150 years? Cuz if not, I won't be able to copywrite this one. I call it "Traveling." It starts out in Europe (where all those classical composers came from) Then travels to a sort of Western atmosphere, then to what is Unmistakeably the Orient, and then to America one last time. I like it... but maybe not the best in my repertoire (spelling?)

Well this has certainly been most interesting =P I like this "traveling idea", original and kind of cool&#33;

Your European section sounded better to my ears than your Western section. Maybe because I&#39;m more of a classical fan. But harmonically/technically, your Western section was better. Your Oriental section was too short&#33; It could have been great if you expanded. And . . I hate Yankee Doodle =&#092; . . wasn&#39;t there another way for you to get into the America section (which by the way, I&#39;m also not a big fan of)?

Well, you certainly captured the right style for each section, and your transition parts did their job, I&#39;ll give you that =) but the sections were too short and not fully developed . . I believe it&#39;d be better if you used a motif or theme to tie all the sections together. Sure, you&#39;re traveling from continent to continent, but it&#39;s the same person who&#39;s doing the traveling, right?

Gee... I never thought of it that way... (by the way, I hate yankee doodle too). I couldn&#39;t really think of a way to give the clear impression of america without doing something very plainly patriotic... maybe American Patrol...? Meh... I think you&#39;re right about it being too short, at least the oriental section was... Well, in truth, I couldn&#39;t really think of a way to make it repeat better. I&#39;ll see what i can do, and I&#39;ll put out another version soon. I really think this song isn&#39;t to its full potential yet, and I&#39;m gonna try to make it just that. Thanks, al (phonse).
Edit: GWAHAHAHAHA&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; I finished it&#33;&#33;&#33; And all but deleted that horrible yankee doodle. Sounds much better now... Hope you like it&#33; Here it is: Traveling&#33;
(in response to alphonse, I couldn&#39;t really figure out a way to keep to a certain theme with so many different styles... sorry... Ah well. it sounds better at least :/ . Hope all y&#39;all like it)

This was much better&#33; =) everything flowed much smoother . . good job on expanding the Oriental section. And as for your America section, it was nice, but I still hate patriotic American music in general, no offense to you of course =P

(But don&#39;t forget poor Canada next time ;_; they&#39;re on the same continent&#33; hehe)

Whew. this is actually something I composed a while ago... I can't think of a name for it, but uh... I was kinda depressed at the time... :D so... hope all y'all like it.

In response to Mazda, I think that some song, especially in Square-Enix Productions, are very memorable and stand out a lot. For instance, I heard someone playing "Treno: the Sleepless city," and it was immediately standing out. Loops, yes... Merging into the background, not so much. I play video games a lot, and I think that the only think that could possibly be too blatant for an RPG is just plain melody... (maybe not even that... :D )
Edit: pray forgiveness for double post... They are two entirely unrelated subjects you know...

This one is actually for the celebration contest in January 2005... I need help cause something doesn't sound right. The notes in the beginning simulate the ball dropping... Hm.

please comment&#33;&#33;&#33; I can&#39;t believe noones seen my page for so long... It&#39;s not even accessible except by compositions archive anymore... But PLEASE COMMENT&#33;&#33;&#33; X_X

HOPELESS: This song is kinda creepy&#33; Gave me mental images of a dark dungeon with tiny spiders scaling the walls, weaving their webs at a rapid rate, entombing a prisoner that is wasting away within his cell. Good use of meshing the two hands, but I would&#39;ve liked to have seen a more solid LH progression. Have you considered adding other instruments? I wish the ending had a more overbearing cadence.... :) But other than that, good job&#33; :) Very unlike my style.

CELEBRAT: Seemed a bit random to me, sadly seems to lack a memorable theme. :( The cello (?) part works pretty well as a continuo, and once the upper percussive instrument (vibraphone?) part comes in, I was instantly drawn in moreso. However, it ended a little bit abruptly for my taste, and I felt you could&#39;ve added more instruments. But I do like the instrument choice, as well as the flowing structure. Perhaps countermelodies and more harmonization would smooth this piece out.

Good job&#33; I can see you spend a lot of effort making music. :) If I were you, I&#39;d focus more on learning harmony and chord progressions. It&#39;s always best to have two strong instruments doing the chord progression. In my personal favorite, it is a double bass (playing half note bases of every triad) and a cello which plays only broken chords or staccato 8th note progressions, mimicking the bass. Anyway, I advise you experiment a bit and evolve in your style, because I can already see it&#39;s a very unique one. :)

Keep it up&#33; :think: :D

Hopeless:
You wrote this while depressed? Hmm, did you use the blues scale? I&#39;m not too familiar with those modern stuff . . anyways, I felt like you could work on the melody a bit, it was "running" around too much for my taste =T

And I already commented on your second piece on the contest thread . . I believe I voted for it =P

Thanks verrrry much maz and al... I haven&#39;t been on in a very long time... I have been swamped with schoolwork... Darn greek gods... I appreciate your comments, and I look forward to seeing more. UNfortunately, I won&#39;t have a new song for a while.After all, someone in my band suggested a Mario field show for next year... Sometimes being a composer is so stressful :heh: . In response to al, the scale is in fact just a minor scale... I may have refrained from using some notes in the scale, but it&#39;s not blues... Maybe a minor penatonic? X_X Anyhow... I&#39;ll post again when I have something new...

As you may have seen from the Improv FAQ topic, I was away for a month... <sigh> I have been composing quite a bit though... I&#39;ll put the songs here as soon as I can get back to my home computer... I am currently working on a full orchestra arrangement of "O jouyous joy" with all the frilly 16th notes attached :D . So, when that&#39;s finished, I&#39;ll be sure to put it here as well...

ok i kno i&#39;m like super late but i love LUV LUV Chihang&#33; (sp?) I actually got up and danced like an idiot :D good job&#33; ont thing tho....is it just me or does the midi end too abruptly? like it&#39;s being cut off...o well I still like it good job :rockon:

silly me i forgot to ask for the sheet music....PLEASE ::eyes grow wide and get glassy:: I would love to play this song&#33; just for the sake of playing it...

well... thanks very much, Fob... but my comp doesn't do sheet music... I daresay I could write out each note and note value, but that would take a little while... uh... it starts on a C... wow :blink: there's a lot of notes...
BTW!!!! ATTENTION ALL PPL WHO CARE!!!! I HAVE COMPOSED A ROUGH SONG THAT WILL CERTAINLY BE ALTERED!!!! please comment... it needs a lot of improvement...
Edit: I just realized after listening to it that the ending IS rather (as opposed to something preppy) CHEESY!!!! lol! but that will need to be altered as well, I presume...

okie... this one is a bit more refined, but I WILL always accept comments... no song can be too good... (it's against my way of life). I call it Joyous Echoes... I seem to like joy a lot... :jumping for [insert word]:

finally, I put together samples of all the music I've been working on... It seems it fits together... but needs transitions... yeah, and it seems I also need to make each segment longer... if anyone would, I'd like to see if anyone else thinks differently about using all of them in a song... THANKS!!! (i need a title as well).

::does a strange jig:: I like ethnic but it sounds empty....uhh i dont know what to say to help u....uh make it leff empty....lol I&#39;m no help.

echoes of joy reminds me of something.....can&#39;t place it it sounds good tho...perky

Ethnic:
I think it&#39;s fine as it is . . but I suppose you could make the violin (?) stand out more perhaps, and maybe tone down the bells (?) . . I don&#39;t know :heh:

Joyous Echoes:
I like the use of imitation, to demonstrate the echoes. But be careful that when you do that, you don&#39;t abandon your harmony/chords, otherwise it sounds empty, because essentially you&#39;re just doubling the same notes. Have you considered imitation between the piano and the cello (?)?.

Sampler:
Your first three sections in the minor keys are the most interesting, and their transition wasn&#39;t that bad. I didn&#39;t like it when you went to the major key, because then it sounded too cowboy-ish.

:o

Ethnic is a great song i enjoyed it and echojoy is great also.

Ethnic:8/10
Echojoy:7/10

glad you all like them... I&#39;m working on a very long piece right now... probably the first that will have movements... and the first piece I&#39;m actually writing about somebody... I hope I can finish it soon... school will be over soon, so I&#39;ll have a lot of time to compose... :D :D

okies! The song for 'somebody' is currently on hold... My friend has the only copy in existence with him. But as for this piece! I FINISHED A PIECE!!! In truth, this one I had a LOT of fun on... See, if you notice the first part (which is supposed to be people saying 'too') has the exact syllables of the chant in "monty python and the quest for the holy grail!" E ye ye su do me ne. E ye ye is lek we em. Isn't that cool? I call it the "African Tree Chant!" It symbolizes all of the creatures one tree can sustain (including itself).

Edit: Does anyone think that a percussion track might suit this piece?

Originally posted by TrumpetPLaya42@Jun 17 2005, 09:30 PM
Edit: Does anyone think that a percussion track might suit this piece?

I don&#39;t know. Depends on how you plan to implement it, I suppose. But it&#39;s not needed: the coming and going of layers is important to the piece (the way I listen to it), and certainly a constunt percussion track (like a carpet), would counter the effect, I think. On the other hand, if you treat the percussion track as another layer which comes and goes, this could work (perhaps even a solo).

Hm... now what creatures would be symbolised by a percussion track. Termites? :rolleyes:

Oh and... I liked your African Tree, in case you couldn&#39;t tell.

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I also liked "Hopeless". Hope you&#39;re depressed more often...

:o

No, wait, I don&#39;t...

But I liked "Hopeless", nonetheless. :heh:

:heh: lol&#33; Sorry... I&#39;ll try to get depressed more often when I&#39;m in the composing mood... Thanks for the input, and I hope to get more... btw... I believe my composing program has a sound for termites... lol.

AFRICTRE:
Hehe, nice . . always interesting to hear different styles of music. Simple and clear goes a long way&#33; Hmm, personally I feel a percussion track might be a good addition, but I don&#39;t want it to be overbearing on the other instruments. It&#39;s just that I felt some more layers/instruments might have lent the piece more weight, seeing as how I only hear 2 - 3 instruments (i.e. 2 - 3 creatures) =P . . but *shrugs* it&#39;s fine as it is.

AFRICTRE

I like how the pieces enter all at different intervals. When the percussion instrument (xylophone? marimba?) comes in, it really reinforces the African theme. Also, I really like how light-hearted the flute (recorder? ocarina?) dances above the rest of the supporting parts. The ending is nicely done. A very pleasant song to listen to, and the beginning really does sound like a tribal chant of some sort&#33; I suppose a true percussion line might work with this piece, but it is hard to envision it without it overpowering the other, more native natural instruments. Good job. :)

FINAAAALLLY!!!!!!! I FINISHED THE MARIO 2 OVERWORLD ARRANGEMENT!!!!!!!!!!! A couple things, tho. First, I tried to use my meager abilities to create realistic jazz effects, such as falls, trills, and pitch bends... but I don't have a pitch-bender, so it's less than real. Second, I have done something never before done in jazz history!!! (or not) I wrote a improv solo!!! My piano doesn't work right with recording, simply because every note is moved forward a sixteenth note... making it impossible to move triplets back.... so I wrote one... forgive if it sounds bad, it's not easy to write out something you're supposed to make up on the spot on a different instrument than you're supposed to be playing... but here it is!!! (drum part, guitar part, and piano part May or May not come later)

CHIHANG: alot more harmonic towards the middle of the song than i thought it would be, sounds kinda like and intro to a much larger song with a gong&#33;&#33; :D i love gongs&#33;&#33;

COMP 1: sounds pretty good. just enough repitition to not drive me away, and a enough variation to keep me interested&#33; some of the fifths (werent they?) grated my nerves, but it was only for maybe half a second at most so it didnt matter that much.

COMP 2: this one is really cool&#33; again sounds like an intro to a much larger piece, but is still pretty good on its own&#33;

DEMONEW: sounds like the music from sim city 2000... its ok..

ACCIDENT: as far as ive listened, this is my favorite so far, I like how you keep a fairly similar theme throughout the whole piece, but it still feels like an intro...

HOPE vs. HOPE 2: i definitely would say hope 2 is my favorite of the two. its mores substantial than any of the previous pieces, and it stands out as the first one with an extended ending (stage i might add) and is probably taking accident&#39;s place as my fav. we&#39;ll see what the last one has in store.

CHOIR: ... i just didnt like this one very much, but you might want to try sustaining some of the notes. maybe add two staves for each voice. thats all ive got... sry ^_^;

Commenting on your Mario arrangement as promised&#33; :)

MARIO2

To be perfectly honest with you, I do not like brass that much, So this arrangement wasn&#39;t the greatest for me. Perhaps an orchestral arrangement?

I liked the fact that you included the 2 Measure Intro that I didn&#39;t put in my Piano arrangement (If given your personal permission, I would like to add that little snipit based on your rendition, but reduced for piano.). I also like the harmonies between the muted trumpets on the opening theme, but it dissapointed me that you left the part after that to a low trombone. I think it would sound better if you up the octave on that, but it&#39;s your arrangement, not mine.

I was glad when you gave that same theme to the trumpets, restoring to it&#39;s original intentions, but I found the trills to be overly annoying (Forgive me&#33;).

The next theme in minor sounded like it had an echo track after listening to it a couple of times, but that can just be a problem with my computer. Overall, this section is probably the best of them all.

Then your improv section... -_- I wanted to like it so much, because your compositions are so unique compared to everyone else&#39;s, but in all honesty, I didn&#39;t. X_X Oh, I feel bad about saying that, but it just lacked structure and basically threw random pitches everywhere. The trills were unnecessary, And the downward gliss was so haphazard... @_@ I&#39;m sorry.

Well, if you want a rating, click the spoiler...

Show spoiler (javascript:void(0);)<span style="display: none;" id="QUOTE"> Orchestration ~ 3/5
Improvisation ~ 2/5

OVERALL ~ 3/5 :/ </span>

I have a feeling that the improvisation section would have sounded much better if you could hear it rendered live, with emphasis on the right notes IMHO. And yeah, I&#39;m not sure those "trills" are humanely possible. A viable rendition. Not quite as good as SuperBuckJazz (http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR00577/), but definately not a midi I will trash any time soon. ^.^ Just keep working on it&#33; ^_^

Thank you both... <still waits for al and maz>... I know exactly what you both mean, and, as I said, I would&#39;ve been able to make a much more substantial solo if I were actually doing the &#39;improvising&#39;... on a trumpet... <sigh>... And ureshii, I had to do the brass, for this is an actual arrangement for a jazz band (4 trumpets, 3 trombones, 2 altos, 2 tenors, a bari, a piano, drums, and a guitar.). So i&#39;m sorry... and yes, the trills are annoying for moi too, but staying faithful to the sheet music just wasn&#39;t possible at that point... you see, the REAL trill is supposed to be from a D to an F#, and the second from an E to a G... not very possible on any wind instrument... and I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO ADD THOSE TWO MEASURES&#33;... the trombone was necessary I thought, and also, to dispel your doubts, it&#39;ll sound a lot better when actually played... the trumpet, trombone, baritone, and tuba voices are all the same, unfortunately, so I just switch the same pitch down an octave... I prefer to have an evenly distributed performance, such as the trombone and trumpet solos, and the sax soli at the beginning. Other than that, I don&#39;t think there&#39;s any other way I can cover my butt.... and just to let you guys know&#33; I WORKED F O R E V E R on the intonations and the swing notes... I did not play ANY of this on my piano (not even the bass line) and had to program EACH NOTE for EACH INSTRUMENT (14 of them)... but I&#39;m happy with the product... I&#39;ll see what I can do, Baltakatei, as far as the solo... thanks for the link... tata&#33;

Wow! This one turned out GREAT! It's based off of the ever-so-popular movie "War of the Worlds," with Tom Cruise... the Martians in the movie made a minor third as a war chant, and i thought... "Wow, that would be a GREAT idea for a song..." In the shower of course (all my best thinking is done there)... so there's a battle going on here... The martians are played by the Contrabass, Bari Sax, and Tuba... with percussion by the bass drum and toms... and the Humans are two (sometimes 3) trumpets, aided by the snare... and don't click off when the music stops... you have to find out who wins... (btw, the final chord is supposed to be dissonant with the major AND minor thirds both being played... [didn't turn out that way tho])... all right... "War of the Worlds."

I don't see what's so "GREAT." But, then again, it wasn't all TOO bad. :heh:

Listening to this composition was like eating a shoe.

Listening to this composition was like eating a shoe.

Never heard that one before , but whatever you say :heh: Are you trying to be like simon from American Idol. :lol: .
But this song did sound a bit dull. :) Maybe you could add some other stuff?? :huh:

I think... let me repeat. I THINK... when you said the song turned out GREAT!... you meant the drum part... 'cause that's the only thing that was interesting. And it doesn't sound like their fighting in the beginning. Like I said earlier... "I think..."

I don't even think the DRUMS are interesting. There is hardly a solid melodie in this piece, and it lacks a backbone. It's quite incohesive.

Never in my composition days have I had a song trashed like that... :cry: :death: I dunno what to say... thanks for the input??? You guys basically said... "the song sucks..." If you could tell me something besides... "THERE'S NOTHING HERE!!! I DON'T LIKE IT!!!! I LIKE EATING SHOES BETTER THAN THIS!!!! Gawd... if I change it, it'll be up to me... mebbe I DON'T want people to comment on my songs... and don't post and say how I'm wrong and pity me... I don't want to hear that s**t. <tears out chunks of hair>... I'm speechless. Is it because I like it? Do you always have to say the opposite? When I don't like a song, everyone says, "no, build more on this..." but when I like a song... ... ... :unsure:

You may not see compositions here for quite some time... and it's not because I'm working on something either.

You may not see compositions here for quite some time... and it's not because I'm working on something either.
We'll try to survive :\ :whistle:

I liked you mario one...

wow...not the nicest comments... especially Noir... perhaps your creative criticism about shoes isn't exactly what I want to improve my composing... I'm working on a swing tune right now... forgive the horrible pun but I seem to be getting back in the "swing" of things... or not... anyway, I'll see how it turns out... likely it won't appeal to the untrained ear, simply because it uses jazz chords that don't appear very often in the kind of music put on Ichigo's... but try to get through listening to it... who knows? it may awaken a jazz-loving person inside you that you never knew you had... or not. whatever.

Wow. I didn't expect this one to turn into a full-length song, but it did, and I won't say how I feel about it until AFTER some people have made some comments... It's a kinda funky, kinda latin, DEFINITELY jazzy tune that I call "turn signal."

Edit: I'm pretty sure myself that the smooth part still needs some melodic strengthening, so if you comment (criticize, praise, etc.) on this piece, I'd like to hear more about the other parts. OH! I almost forgot. This is the first song I've written with an actual set part. I definitely would like some help structuring it more, if it's at all possible. Thanks!

nice chords.......:)

thanks, one winged. I'm glad you liked it. I wish other people would comment too, though. Two words on a song that I worked on for that long isn't exactly enough to satisfy, if you know what I mean.

Wow, I love the bass riff at the beginning. Yeah, the trumpet does kind of wander, but that adds to the improv-feel of it all. The piano part is juicy. Me gusta.

Yeah, it sucks when you spend a crapload of time on a piece and no one says anything either way. I devoted a killer ammount of time to these two orchestral pieces that got one comment each.

But, I'm sayin' I like it. Nice and jazzy.

hey hey! thank you... I'm hoping that I can actually get my friend eddie to perform the trumpet part... I already have all the other instruments covered... so if I actually do make a recording of it, I'll be sure to put it on here as well. And if I do, I'll be sure to put some improv in it... woot!

Hah! That's cool! Although I am into classical piano, I like this jazzy piece that you've made here.

I love the trumpet-improvational playing on through it.

Ooh, I love this new song. ^_^

*dances to it*

Okay, so I need to say a little more. Unfortunately, I've not been composing much at all lately... I had a little disheartening bad review about a song I've promptly deleted. So whatever. But I suppose I made my comeback into the composing world with a pretty good song, seeing the comments left on it. But I have something to say: My style has changed drastically. I used to be doing RPG-type songs, but after becoming an official jazz pianist, I've seen tons of new chords, ideas, and new things that spring to mind and I want to write down. So I know I've composed quite a few things, but go easy on me for the next little while, okay? I'm finding myself again. Or whatever. ANYWAYS! This is the song with the improv part added in. So that gives you a better idea of the way the song would actually go if performed. I might do the bridge improv too when it's actually recorded, but it was too much work to write out a solo for that. So here it is, finished and waiting to be recorded. Turn signal!

I'm gonna add you on my list of what Jazz NEEDS to be like. My List so far.

~ Keith Jarret
~ My Band Teacher
~ YOU DUDE
~ And some other guys i saw on PBS once lol.
EDIT: Oh yea! SONG PWNED +_D

okay, here's another one. not NEARLY finished, mind you, but it gives the intro and an 8-measure chord progression to give you an idea of what the vibe will sound like. Probably going to have a wind instrument in this one too. Sounds more saxaphone-ish to me tho. All right... Liquid Rhythm!

I had a lot of free time today, so I finished "Liquid Rhythm"... but now I'm not so sure about the title... I'm thinking of renaming it "Easy Spirits"... tell me what you think. Any criticism is welcome.

Edit: I fixed the ending. Voila!

Bravo! Dude, you've done it again. I love your Jazz style man, it's classic but also modern-and well, you're own touch as well.

You've got some talent for this Jazz Compostition man, and you're usuing it very well!

I love the chords in the piano and the melody, it just feels so RICHIOUS! By far, you're (probably other than Alfonso) my fav. composer here. :P

PS :

I got a good name for it, although I'm not from this place or visited it, just gave me a feeling, "A Night on the Town, with my Love"

EDIT : I like that tempo change after the opening. Well, at least I think it was a tempo change.

Finally another one! But it's not jazz. Not exactly. Probably something you'd hear on an easy listening station or something. I'm debating over two titles: Forest of Rain or Mystic River. Give me your opinions on this one. It's really odd, so I won't take anything too hard.

I suppose it's not really worth posting again... But please comment. I don't really want to have to resort to putting non-jazz compositions on my jazz page. It's icky.

Actually, keep your stuff in this thread. I'll lock your other one.

Name it Mystic River. It sounds more like you're traveling along in my opinion.

okay, thanks noir. And thank you too, al. You should visit my jazz page... that I guess has just been locked. But it's strange, because i was going to name the newest song on there "The last leaf to fall"... except I thought it sounded to much like autumn leaves... so I didn't. But thanks anyway!

okay, now that my jazz thread has been locked, and I'm going to stop getting responses from people... I might as well post all my jazz songs on here.

this is the REAL thread. and there IS a new song, so PLEASE comment on it. It's the "Last Blossom" song, so check it out.

Great Job! You really have a feal of the groove! Jjust one question. Why a trumbone?

Your music is that sort of music you can... ummm... feel, I guess would be the word? :heh: Anyways, good job.

thanks guys! I have another one on the way. And hopefully I'll be able to make a latin one after that. I'm working on that particular style.

This one... well, I skipped the other song and went straight on to latin. So I finished this song... and I'm gonna call it electric soul, even though it really isn't "soul music" at all. I meant it as a person's soul. There we go. Tell me how you like it. It's not all perfect and shipshape like it should be, but I think it'll do.

So good!!! I'm proud!:P

Hey! I like that.

Don't usually go for that Latin/Spanish rythmic jazz sound (tend to go for more Keither Jarrett-Debussy Inspired-type of jazz).

.. but I like that, keep it up. Not many, if anyone, composes jazz! ;)

That tune reminded me of Sex and the City XD

I have NO idea what to say to that, noir. lol. But I'll take it as a compliment. And thank you too, maestro.

Hey! That was good. I really got into it. Keep it up! :)

I'm on my way to writing another really good tune (or PROMISING, at the least), but unfortunately, it's going to be slow going. Do you wanna know WHY?? Because I got FINALE! And unfortunately it's entirely a new cup of tea. I'm working with new harmonies that classical musicians wouldn't have even dreamt of. Some even sound odd to ME, but it's jazz. What's going to come of your work if you stick to "what's been done already?" Anyway, I was just informing all y'all that still care that my new piece in the making is called "Overtime," and here's what i have so far, if you care to know.

Ooooh, what a lovely jazz piece. Well done. Since I'm not familiar with the jazz area, I can't really give criticisms, but it's nice. ;)

Great start. I can see your working on new harmonies. It sounds a lot fuller with those arranged chords, and they are placed perfectly actually. Not to much layering on one notes interval either, all clean sounding too.

You've done fast compositions in the past, and I think this is one of the first slower, easy going "strolling" type of songs that I've heard you made; I love it how you can switch the styles, and still make it interesting.

Don't have many Jazz compoers here, but I study some Jazz stuff on the side as well, although I like Keith Jarrett-different style, and isn't Jazz and isn't Bebop, it's Jarrett. :heh:

Ok, critique.

Ehem.

As first said, the chords are very clean-so be proud with that. The intro is actually good, sort of starts right off, but starts off fine. you can find that melody quite easily, and have those easy chords supporting it. Great job.

I hope to see this finished in a while! Also, just to keep in mind, your one of my favs. on here! :P

love luv lob ur peices. heres my comments:

ur jazz pieces, i am a jazz player (saxophonist) and im just going to say most of them do not have very good melodies (i mean... nvm i can't think of a way to rephrase this =/) most of your melodies sound as if they're all improvs which is good.. but if u want cookies for your writing, you're probably going to have to write a melody (some kind of rythm that will reappear constantly throghout your peice).

even as a jazz player i am not open to randomness and after reading many of other people's comment i can kinda conclude that most of your songs are either melodies or songs without melodies (many say its "random") i'd love to see a jazz chart from you with all the parts in it. by the way if u need help: percussion is your friend. adding clings and clanks to your songs will ALWAYS make ur composition sound betterm especially if you have long rests like you do in ur most recent jazz composition.

Style of jazz is not supposed to be repetitive. even slow jazz, cool jazz do not repeat. chords repeat in some songs but melodies do not repeat one after another over and over. if you study some jazz charts you can see that even when melodies are repeated, something is different the second time, or the third time, or the fourth and on. the original melody might be quarter quarter eighth eighth sixteenth dottedeighth

but second time it might be quarter dottedaquarter sixtheenth sixteenth eighth eighth


randomness isn't always good in a jazz chart. Slow jazz and cool jazz do not bore me infact i like to keep them on in the background all the time. and repetition is bad, i've seen a jazz song with 12 different melodies and none of them repeat... and it sounds very very good.



other than that i LOVE your chords i wish i can write jazz... its not fulfilling enough for me to just be able to play them T_T maybe i should learn jazz piano just for the notes T_T im jelous of you lol...

maybe u can teach me sumtime? 0___o




and another thing here are some jazz songs i really enjoy:

Summer Time
Take 5
beyond the sea
Midnight Mood
It don't mean a thing
Sing Sing Sing
Channel One Suite
Fernadez get away
Blues in the Night
Teach me Tonight
Fly Me To the Moon
Won't You Be My Neighbor?
Bring that Loose and Back around


some artists u should check out:
Miles Davis
Louis Armstrong
John Coltrane
ella fitzgerald
Duke Ellington
Billy Holiday
Benny Goodman
Grover Washington
Dexter Gordon
Phil Wilson
Ray Brown
Buddy Rich


thats all i can think of right now...
err dunno if u want to check out ALL of them, i did :sweat:

Style of jazz is not supposed to be repetitive. even slow jazz, cool jazz do not repeat. chords repeat in some songs but melodies do not repeat one after another over and over.

Cough.

Study Bebop please.

Style of jazz is not supposed to be repetitive. even slow jazz, cool jazz do not repeat. chords repeat in some songs but melodies do not repeat one after another over and over.

Yeah you really must not be familiar with Charley Parker Bebop :cry:

I like what you have done so far! A couple things though. I think you need to redo the dynamics. I don't really think Forte and Fortissimo are necessary. Mezzo Forte and Forte should do just fine.

I also see that you understand that the drums are to kick with the brass, but I don't think you did enough kicking. :lol: Throw in a few more fills and more kicking with the trumpets around measure 11 and 12.

I think the bass could have a more unique part then just backing up the trombones. I think you should try something along the line of dotted quarter eighth and triplets in the bass line.

This is just me be very picky though. It really is a fine piece of work! I like how you didn't water down the trumpet part by moving it down an octave. Keep it there, but if you want people to get the impression of playing high, you will have to start out in the lower octave. A good example of this would be Maynard Ferguson's solos in Birdland and Gospel John.

you're right, unfortunately i do not know charles parker bebop.

but i do know cowboy bebop and i have to agree with you, my fav song from cowboy bebop is old folks blues. i love that song ^^ but you also have to consider, that its background jazz... u shouldn't expect background jazz to be overpowering the same way u shouldn't expect anypeice of music over powering the main show, a comercial, movie, etc. you only see that in musicals =/ (i think)

however even though its background jazz it doesn't mean it has to be repetitive. check out some of that slow jazz from Ghost in the Shell: Stand alone Complex

i love slow jazz, its awesome


i love your chords, i wish i was a jazz pianist instead of a jazz saxophonist =/



use fortissimo only during shouts =/ its not good for the overall song

stay with mf then u can go to forte at high points, and shouts shouldn't be too long unless ur doing a vocal jazz.




"teach me to write jazz T_T"



Edit: also consider using some of the jazz articulations

slides, falls, bend pitch, waver, shake, Do-it, augments, lip trills, etc. try looking them up ^^.

For the record, the opening song, "Tank", is a perfect example of Bebop actually, not the credits.

i LOVE tank omfg!, we played it for our band show a few years back it pwned...

the repetitive bass (but its catchy) and how 3 different melodies stack, then theres the drums... the saxophone solo thats like 5 mins long.. at the end the AWESOME saxophone finish with the bend pitch...

look it up, the intro is all bass tri-pl-et, quarter, dotted-eighth, sixteenth
with trumpets over it


edit:

my bad its dotted-quarter dotted-quarter staccato-eighth staccato-eighth



and also one of the best jazz songs ever is the family guy intro song

I love how this discussion has turned towards bebop... and then... anime? Well that's beside the point. Yes, I've heard of most of the people you listed, and I studied quite a bit of their stuff to get my own style. ESPECIALLY channel one. Love that piece right there. Some pieces YOU should study if you care to visit this thread again are "Ornithology," "Anthropology," and "Groovin' High." Or just look up Dizzy Gillespie and John Coltrane. Bebop guys right there. Now I finished Overtime, so that'll be a relief.


Edit: And as far as "not watering that trumpet part down"... wow. I'm amazed someone caught that. Because my exact thoughts regarding that passage... were those precisely. Should I have taken it down? What if they can't play it? And then I said to myself: I don't give a hoot whether they can play it or not, because SOMEBODY SOMEWHERE can, and as long as it's possible, I can put it down, by god! :-D

This song is the first song I've really written about something. No, it's not a love song, I find it to be rather... shady-ish. Just listen to it. But it's called Back Alley Romance, or I guess I could just call it Back Alley. Either way, it's another swing tune, so tell me what you think!

James Bond meets Porn Music. Sorry, but I just had to draw that parallell :)

So hey isaac, i just wanted to say, that the only reason i ever sign on is to listen to "last blossom". that has to be my favorite song.

sooo... yes I know this isn't jazz, or anything remotely near to it, but I HAVE to have a compositions page! And I can only have one, because of the mods. Darnit. Anyway this is going to either be called "Starfall" or "Holiday Anthem." When (if) you comment and critique it, please put in which title you'd prefer. Because it's gonna be performed. My first song that's performed by a full band. If it's at all possible, I'd like to get it recorded so I could put it on here or something. But it'd probably be too big. Anyway. PLEASE comment even if you ARE a jazz-head :heh:

I'm not much of a jazz head but I'll comment anyways.

I think a lot more interesting things could be done with this music."Starfall" is definately a better title. I loved the twinkle at the opening, that's what made me think of stars. Not sure, maybe the music was just too short, in referal to my first statement, and there was nothing to really grab on to except the twinkle. You had this very nice build up that you just let die away. Was the song simplified for your band? If so, I have nothing more to say. Wonderful piece!!

I take it you're in the editing stage now? I've recently finished the piece I'm going to have performed next april and on editing as well so I do know somewhat of what its like to be in your shoes...its awsome lol.

Anyways, best of luck to you. Oh, and as for the recording, you could always post it on a different site and give us a link to check it out^^

It was really good. For some reason, it reminded me of Kingdom Hearts. XD Anyways, it was awesome. Good job! :)

This could be a PM, but I'd like to keep this thread bumped--good composer 'ere.

Hey trumpet, I'm actually coming along well as a Jazz Pianist--I'm picking up on the comping thing too, which is really different from classicaly improvising.

Anyway, I might also be intereseted in jazz composition too--you won't be the only one. :sweat:

Um. It's been a long while. Most of you, if not all of you, probably don't remember me. I used to write a lot here... but I stopped...

The good news is that I'm still writing, though the going is slower than it used to be. I'm currently a freshman in college studying to be a professional tuba player. Yeah, I know the name's trumpetplaya, but what are you gonna do? I thought perhaps any old fans might want to hear the newest piece I've finished... it took me about 6 months, with some breaks in between. Anyway, I hope you enjoy. This is "Sun Salutation."

P.S. There are no drum parts, and there is an 8-measure break in the middle that is going to be a drum feature (or hand-clapping and pencil-tapping involving the resting musicians, who knows?). There are some other little problems, but with a piece as complicated as this one, I found it difficult enough to provide realistic parts, much less a perfect recording. Nevertheless, enjoy.