Hey. For those of which do not know, I am writing a fantabulous manga. Two nights ago, i had a dream which would soon plant another seed of idea into my head for my next manga. And just fooling around, i came up with another one. The problem is i can't get motivated enough to type them! i have soooooo much more fun just writing with pencil and paper :lol: but i really hope that within the decade I will become the world's next mangaka.

Great to hear! Its always good to see someone pursuing a goal. However, I have one thing to say..........GET MOTIVATED :lol: The sooner you down those ideas, the easier it will be to get started on the drawing part. Best of luck!

What's the difference between type and pencil and paper? They're still all manga...

i just think it's more fun to write with pencil and paper is all. and im trying to. right now i'm adding more things to explain so people won't get confused or bored. also since i'm not that much of a drawer, i think i might hire a pro manga artist from japan, maybe. if my story has a chance in hell of being published. i hope so.

IMO Don't worry about electronics, if you were before (I fail at analyzing bits of text, no matter how simple it is).

Wait.

Hire pro manga artist from Japan?

Woah. That's like. Hard. Yo.
Anyways, if you have time, scan your manga and post it here! So that we can blame you if you didn't update it in, like, a month.

i just think it's more fun to write with pencil and paper is all. and im trying to. right now i'm adding more things to explain so people won't get confused or bored. also since i'm not that much of a drawer, i think i might hire a pro manga artist from japan, maybe. if my story has a chance in hell of being published. i hope so.

Usually, Mangakahs write out the story AND draw the manga... =]

Actually not, a lot of manga is written by one person and drawn by someone else.

Also, it's mangaka, not mangakah. If you want to be a fanboy and use the Japanese word, at least try to spell it correctly.

Actually not, a lot of manga is written by one person and drawn by someone else.

Also, it's mangaka, not mangakah. If you want to be a fanboy and use the Japanese word, at least try to spell it correctly.

Yeah, I just recently noticed my typo error, haha! :heh: How careless of me. :P Nah, I'm not using the word to show off my fanboyism as I please, I'm just using it in conjunction with the topic of this thread, lol. :)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was thinking that in general, when authors write out their story, they already have a clear picture of how they want their characters/settings in the story to look like. Since art itself is an important factor in manga, if the art fails to represent/depict the story as intended by the mangaka, then the manga is considered a failure. Take Bleach by Kubo Tite or Vampire Knight by Matsuri Hino as a reference. To me, both mangas captivate because both of the mangakas are able to harmonize the artwork perfectly with the story. It's as if the art is designed to be specially in tune with the story. Imagine if Kubo decided to outsource his drawing work to some other person who knows nothing about his ideas. You think Kurosaki Ichigo would look the way he was supposed to appear? I'm not trying to drag down Sumigirl's ambition, I'm just saying that any dedicated manga writer should be mindful of the risk of hiring an artist to adapt their work artistically without any guides from the manga writer. Sumigirl was saying that she'd most likely leave the drawing part to the pro manga artist that she'd hire, but will the final product (which has to blend with the story of course) turn out exactly the way that Sumigirl had imagined? The worst type of writing for an author to publish would be a work that he/she is not proud of, I just want to give an advice for Sumigirl to steer away from such a fate. That's all, haha. ^_^

actually the infamous Tokyo mew mew was written by someone, and illustrated by Mia Ikumi. I'm just not that great at drawing anime is all. i try but there is always something wrong with it. i also can't draw the same person twice. but i try*sigh. also i think it'd be pretty cool having a japanese artist work with me. but first i must find someone who will publish it! expect to see at least one of my series out in book stores everywhere in about a decade :heh: lol but i hope that my drawing will improve....AHA!!! also vampire kisses was drawn and written by different people! *sigh will i ever actually do this? i hope so.

Most mainstream manga is originally some form of short story written by someone and a manga artist will take and draw that story. Not saying that Manga artists can't do it, just that it's also popular to have split tasks.

So what Neko and Sumigirl have said is true. There's also the common pattern of Light Novel -> Manga -> Anime. This is why you sometimes see a addendum to the attribution section with the words "written by" inside the book.

Most mainstream manga is originally some form of short story written by someone and a manga artist will take and draw that story. Not saying that Manga artists can't do it, just that it's also popular to have split tasks.

So what Neko and Sumigirl have said is true. There's also the common pattern of Light Novel -> Manga -> Anime. This is why you sometimes see a addendum to the attribution section with the words "written by" inside the book.

That was what I was thinking about as well. I think "my" confusion started because Sumigirl said that she wanted to become a mangaka. If everything we've discussed about follows up until now, then Sumigirl should have said that she wanted to become a light novelist, not a mangaka since the two terms have separate meanings. To claim yourself a mangaka and then leave the artwork to someone else is just plain cheesy, since a lot of people tend to believe that in Japanese culture, a mangaka is a comic artist/cartoonist. Yes, I understand that a lot of the manga works is being spit-tasked nowadays, but manga art has evolved to become one of Japan's major icons and there's this sort of legacy/novelty to mangakas that shouldn't be ridiculed. It's as if the manga art alone would sell even if it lacks a good story as a backbone. (The Type-B Otakus, remember? :D) Yeah, that's about all I have to say.

Has it ever occured to you people that some people think up great stories but suck at drawing, and some people make great drawings but suck at storytelling? Put them together and tadaa...

Full Metal Panic was drawn by a different person than the one who thought up the story. In fact, there's a manga sequel called Full Metal Panic Overload which is written by the same person as the original, but drawn by someone else.

edit: of course a lot of stuff is thought up and drawn by the same person (though they often have assistants to help with stuff like inking the pages and everything - Kouta Hirano (Hellsing) actually asks for assistants in bits of text between the images on the pages of the Hellsing manga XD )

If you plan on being a great mangaka "within the next decade," that gives you a decent amount of time to learn how to draw. I think that'd probably be more cost-effective than hiring a professional (why Japanese? You're not Japanese, are you?) artist, and the results would probably be better, too (assuming you learn how to draw well).

Make sure you give us an update in ten years. Or maybe post some stories here now, so we can critique. =)
By the way, I'm going to be the president in ten years, and I'm outlawing manga. Bwahahahahahahahah~

I think you might be voted out of president really soon after you make that law XP

I think you might be voted out of president really soon after you make that law XP
Yeah, might be a bad idea.
Anyway, Sumi, you should post some of your work in the art forums. We'd all be happy to help you out of there! =D
It'll be a lot easier to get started in the manga industry if you can draw your own stuff, after all. Plus, you'd probably have a lot of fun drawing your own comics to go along with your stories. Incidentally, drawing a comic is a great way to practice, so you could even start now if you wanted to; it doesn't matter if the comic looks good or not, because you'll slowly be improving as you draw. After a few years of drawing your own manga, your art will look really good! =)

not if in 10 years people realize they hate manga and it gets tons of support :|

i would post my artwork on but the library computer won't let me at all. also i am starting to draw a lil better so maybe i'll start as a light novelist and work my way to mangaka! but as soon as i finish the first chapter i'll post it. i promise. just keep asking how its going and ill get done quicker. BEWARE:I'ts too awesome for you!

i would post my artwork on but the library computer won't let me at all. also i am starting to draw a lil better so maybe i'll start as a light novelist and work my way to mangaka! but as soon as i finish the first chapter i'll post it. i promise. just keep asking how its going and ill get done quicker. BEWARE:I'ts too awesome for you!
You sound a lot like me. You probably have a tough, fun future ahead of you. :heh:
Looking forward to whatever you post.

You sound a lot like me. You probably have a tough, fun future ahead of you. :heh:
Looking forward to whatever you post.

yep.

BEWARE:I'ts too awesome for you!

...*snickers* hope to see it soon so I can get blown away~! :lol:

...*snickers* hope to see it soon so I can get blown away~! :lol:

how bout make your own drawing page so u can put your mouth where it belongs?! HAH!

how bout make your own drawing page so u can put your mouth where it belongs?! HAH!

but I'd rather have my mind exploded by observing the art of others rather than putting my crap up :P
I'm more interested in seeing the works of the world's newest managaka than anything you see?

lol ive tried to draw my own manga .... i managed to draw at least 27 pages but stopped because the story was horrible :P

XD Sumigirl!! *high five* Lolz, I'm currently working on my manga, Hana Monogatari, so you'll be up against me. :shifty:...
Lolz, but I still have a long way to go so...
Have you ever read Bakuman? It's a manga...all about manga, lolz. It's written by the same people who wrote Death Note, and is ranked 23 on OneManga.

@v1ol1nm4strer. The story was horrible or the art(which I don't think anything could be so bad to be called horrible)? If you make a thread on it, I'm sure a bunch of people would love to help with both. :)

I started a manga once. I made a full website for it and everything! I even drew one page of it and put it on there! =D

XD Lolz. What happened to the rest of it?

RainingSilver64- err the story was really dull etc == i dont think ill try drawing a manga anymore == i have to studdyyy ...the best i can do is randomly doodle in my books :P and then when my teacher looks at my book ..... they say "study dont draw" :P

Lolz, I doodle a lot too...XD

Lolz. What happened to the rest of it?
I realized I sucked at drawing!

...*snickers* hope to see it soon so I can get blown away~!
Lmao, didn't even notice the snickering till now. Real nice, fur. =P
I have to agree with Infinity now. Let's see your pro artwork, critic-lady!

Oooh, a mangaka eh? May I ask you to draw my in-the-works Haruhi novel, and some random thing for japanese class? >.>

...Haruhi? As in Suzumiya Haruhi?...and...Japanese class!!????

Why yes, Haruhi as in Haruhi Suzumiya and Japanese class.

C'mon! Where's the originality in that? :(

...Haruhi? As in Suzumiya Haruhi?...and...Japanese class!!????
Yup, Japanese classes, contrary to popular belief, do exist. =P
And if anybody in my Japanese class dared fanfic Haruhi in their broken Japanese, I'd shuriken them in the face!

Thanks for everyone supporting me. Progress Report: So far ive converted my story, which used to be in Novel form, to a script. Latley ive been busy but im sketching in time to write more!

Yup, Japanese classes, contrary to popular belief, do exist. =P
And if anybody in my Japanese class dared fanfic Haruhi in their broken Japanese, I'd shuriken them in the face!

Yes, I know they exist...>< And if I master both Hiragana and Katakana(on my own), my dad is going to help me convince my mom to let me take classes...

@Sumigirl. Did you read Bakuman? You should work on making a name out of your story. (Not a name as in title a name as in....go read Bakuman and you'll understand what I'm talking about...)

Japanese classes don't exist; they're equivalent to cookies. -__-

@sumi Try not to focus on the plot as much at the very beginning; maybe get a "test" manga out, and then actually make your real one? That way, you can make mistakes, and you can learn from them without making your story really twisted.

The "test" manga you refer to is called a one shot(also the 0 chapter in a lot of popular manga). It's basically a manga story shortened to usually about 50 pages. If the one shot does well, it's turned into a series. Although most of the time, the series won't really follow the story of the one shot....but the main idea is usually the same...

Have you ever read the 0 chapters for Naruto and Bleach?

@Mushyrulez. I'm pretty sure they exist...maybe not where you live...(actually, I don't think they exist in my area either...)

I thought they were called pilots? Meh.

The bad thing about one-shots is that you basically have the entire manga story inside; also, the plot is 'most always different from the actual manga.

One-shots are stories designed to be complete and done in one volume. They're more of a debut piece than a prelude to a story. Pilots, on the other hand, are used to try and sell a larger story to a publishing company, usually made by an accomplished author/artist, containing many thoughts that are explained when presenting the story to the publisher. They both can be used for debuts, though, as many popular series (Naruto, Bleach, Dragon Ball, and even Death Note) were written as one-shots and later republished as a serial.

Yes, I know they exist...>< And if I master both Hiragana and Katakana(on my own), my dad is going to help me convince my mom to let me take classes...

@Sumigirl. Did you read Bakuman? You should work on making a name out of your story. (Not a name as in title a name as in....go read Bakuman and you'll understand what I'm talking about...)

is it on onemanga.com? I think i've heard of it before. The name sound familiar:huh: BTW: What is Hiragana and Katana? Are they Japanese forms of writing and reading?

...Yep, bakuman's on OM, though apparently some other sites release faster and more HQ WSJ series... Meh, I still use OM for my manga...

Hiragana and Katakana (collectively, kana) are basically the Japanese alphabet... it's like our english "A, B, C"s, except it defines how to write.. japanese...

And a katana is used for slicing people. (:<

...Yep, bakuman's on OM, though apparently some other sites release faster and more HQ WSJ series... Meh, I still use OM for my manga...

Hiragana and Katakana (collectively, kana) are basically the Japanese alphabet... it's like our english "A, B, C"s, except it defines how to write.. japanese...

And a katana is used for slicing people. (:<

More specifically, Bakuman is release weekly on OM, as it is WSJ, which stands for Weekly Shounen Jump. It usually comes out on Friday, along with Naruto and Bleach.


...BTW: What is Hiragana and Katana? Are they Japanese forms of writing and reading?

And kana is all forms of Japanese writing(Hiragana, Katakana, Kanji, etc.). Hiragana, is the main form of writing, and Katakana is used mainly for foreign words. For example:

Computer = kompyuuta = コンピュータ

Actually, it is weekly, but there's that time between WSJ release and actual scanning + put on site; some people like having a couple hours of time more than others, though that seems trivial -_-