Edited with less stringent requirements due to low response volume.

Music Club I'm in wants to play decent, upbeat anime songs that have both electric guitar and acoustic piano.

Something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edR8Sei0tq4
or this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yos2eki0_dA

In short, we're looking for J-pop and J-rock, or modern western rock/punk, that uses acoustic piano. Gotta be upbeat. It's has to rock, in other words, so we don't die of boredom playing it.

By the way, neither the guitarist nor pianist can read sheet music, although the guitarist can read tabs, and I think the pianist is working on improving his sheet music-reading ability. If you have sheets, I can use them to teach the pianist or guitarist. (Guitarist can read tabs, so he wouldn't need my help with that).

How do the club members learn songs without knowing how to read sheet music? (as Mushyrulez asked in the following post):
The guitarist learns songs from TABs and from youtube tutorial pages like this one (http://www.youtube.com/user/NicoRockN).
The pianist learns mostly from watching Synthesia videos on youtube, or just plugging midis he finds into his own installed Synthesia.
As for me, I learn by ear (or sheet music or tabs if I'm lazy. Learning by ear is slower for me, but I trust it more than sheets, even though I can read music in pretty much any and every clef (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clef)).

Songs with just guitar, piano, bass, & drums would be ideal, but other songs that would sound good (despite having additional instruments beyond those which I listed) would be welcome for suggestions, as I could arrange as necessary, within reason. By "within reason" I mean, don't expect me to take the time to arrange a 100-piece symphony onto piano. =P

Also, in case anyone is wondering, the guitarist is the one who founded, and currently leads, the club. He also does all the recruiting and organizing (the hard work in other words). So don't get the wrong idea and think I'm that the one running it, because I'm not.

So, please post any song suggestions you can think of. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Erm... couplea questions.

How do you have a pianist /and/ a guitarist that can't read sheet music...? How did they learn? Anyways, it might be top priority to teach them how to read sheet music so that your club can perform more complicated pieces in the future...

How many people do you have...? Can you modulate solo pieces for one instrument into all of them? Well, actually, can you modulate a giant mess of instruments into just those three?

When is this set to be performed, how many people will it be performed to, and what type of people will it be performed to?


I'll try to offer something after those are answered... cause it's' not really very specific now, and there are thousands that fit your current criteria..

How do you have a pianist /and/ a guitarist that can't read sheet music...? How did they learn? Anyways, it might be top priority to teach them how to read sheet music so that your club can perform more complicated pieces in the future...
They're self-taught amateurs (as I also am, on my chosen instrument at least). They learned mostly from seeing other people (whether on youtube or in-person), and the guitarist has also learned from tabs. And partially by ear, in the case of the pianist at least. The guitarist needs to work on his ear-training (and he is doing that).

Also, it's not my job to teach them to read sheet music, they're both full-grown adults and I can't hold their hands the whole time. I do help them as much as I can and I already drive 45 minutes each way to get to this club (which I'm not the leader of, just a member). They both know they need to work on reading staff, but I can't constantly nag them about it.


When is this set to be performed, how many people will it be performed to, and what type of people will it be performed to?
It's just to be performed amongst us, the club members.


How many people do you have...? Can you modulate solo pieces for one instrument into all of them? Well, actually, can you modulate a giant mess of instruments into just those three?
I don't mean to sound rude, but I kinda already covered this in the second-to-last paragraph of my first post. I guess I'll repeat myself: "songs with just guitar, piano, bass, & drums would be ideal"

I would think that if we have to compress a large number of instruments into only a few instruments, it would defeat the goal of making the song easy to learn.
Edit: I'm now willing to arrange certain instruments to fit the piano. Although we would still greatly prefer songs that actually have a piano in them, as opposed to songs that require me to "arrange for piano". As I find arranging to be a big chore.

The most important thing is for the core of the song (perhaps the rhythm and chordal structure is what I mean) to be covered through the combination of the guitar and piano (and bass to a much lesser extent). Minor embellishments will be left out of our rendition.

P.S. Guitarist is an electric guitarist (and doesn't have an acoustic guitar). Just thought I'd make that clear in case the question were to come up later. The club room has a couple of acoustic pianos, and a drum set in it, and the pianist does not own a portable electric keyboard (So he can't play synthesized instruments). Hence why I'm looking for J-pop and J-rock, or modern western rock, that uses acoustic piano.

Please listen to the links in the first post again if you need a better idea of what we're aiming for in terms of style. As for me, I have a 4-string bass, but I'm trying to upgrade to a fiver soon, so I'm open to song suggestions that include low-B notes on bass, since it shouldn't be too long before I'll have a proper instrument which will let me play those. I certainly don't want to detune my 4-string to try to play them as the strings will flop all over the place. Lowest I'm willing to detune is a whole step down to 'D' (which I did for Kimi no Shiranai Monogatari)

...Sorry about that...

...the thing is, I don't really know any recommendations for pieces; I don't really listen to music all that often...



However, I did find this: http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/09/03/the-best-100-anime-songs/
...I was hoping that some more intelligent/more.. experienced members would notice this thread, so... yeah...


-__- sorry.

That's fine. It seems that the guitarist is now dead-set on just going with Kimi no Shiranai Monogatari for now, anyway.

Although, we'd certainly still appreciate recommendations from anyone who might help our club decide on future pieces. Thanks for the top-100 anime songs link. If I'm lucky, I might find a few in that list that will meet our criteria.

Edit: Sadly, most of the songs in that link were cheesy sounding. But still, thanks. A few were good at least.

Well, it's been about a month, so I figure that's more than long enough for me to bump this again.

Anyway, still hoping for suggestions, and if you haven't already, please re-read my posts as they were edited awhile ago. Thank you.

Edited with less stringent requirements due to low response volume.

Music Club I'm in wants to play a decent, upbeat anime song that has both electric guitar and acoustic piano.

Something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edR8Sei0tq4
or this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65_gE64cBiM

Neither the guitarist nor pianist can read sheet music, although the guitarist can read tabs, and I think the pianist is working on improving his sheet music-reading ability.
The guitarist learns songs from TABs and from youtube pages like this one (http://www.youtube.com/user/NicoRockN).
The pianist learns mostly from watching Synthesia videos on youtube, or just plugging midis he finds into his own installed Synthesia.
As for me, I learn by ear (or sheet music or tabs if I'm lazy).

Suggestions should preferrably sound rockish and upbeat, like in the two youtube link examples above.
Songs with just guitar, piano, bass, & drums would be ideal, but other songs that would sound good despite having additional instruments beyond those I listed would be welcome for suggestions, as I could arrange as necessary, within reason.
If you can think of a song that has guitar, bass, and some other instruments (like strings or synth) that might sound good on piano, I could arrange that it for the pianist to play.

Also, in case anyone is wondering, the guitarist is the one who founded, and currently leads, the club. He also does all the recruiting and organizing (the hard work in other words). So don't get the wrong idea and think I'm that the one running it.


The problem that you're going to see a lot with this combanation is that most Guitar-Piano songs exist in post acoustic music. Meaning that if you're not willing to play a modern-like piece, then you're pretty much screwed.

Seeing's how you can't really read music, I'm going to suggest a more familiar tune. Considering that fact, only thing I can think of that would apply to all the instruments listed is something the Trans-Siberian Orchestra plays (Carol of the Bells), where you take the bell part and play it on the piano, and don't overdrive the guitar. My high school band did this once for fun and it didn't turn out too bad.

The Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vNcGlM8O3I

The problem that you're going to see a lot with this combanation is that most Guitar-Piano songs exist in post acoustic music. Meaning that if you're not willing to play a modern-like piece, then you're pretty much screwed.
uhh...



Seeing's how you can't really read music,
Actually, my good sir, I can read sheet music, it's my comrades who can't (I was pretty sure I made that clear, but I guess I didn't.) =)


I'm going to suggest a more familiar tune. Considering that fact, only thing I can think of that would apply to all the instruments listed is something the Trans-Siberian Orchestra plays (Carol of the Bells), where you take the bell part and play it on the piano, and don't overdrive the guitar. My high school band did this once for fun and it didn't turn out too bad.

The Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vNcGlM8O3I

Okay going by what you've posted here, I'm going to guess that you may have been thinking of, or intending to respond to, someone else's thread, or you may not have read my posts thoroughly.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to criticize you for this, but you should know that we're into rock music.

Guitarist pretty much dislikes anything with a tempo of less than 160 (okay, that may be exaggerating a bit), but my point is that we actually like modern stuff. Stuff from the very late 90's to now is the period that we choose our repertoire from, with I'd say, the mid-00's to now being 90% of that. We're about as modern as you can get.

Sorry if the wording in my previous postings caused a misunderstanding. I'll review them again now to see if I can make them more unambiguous and coherent (no promises on this one, haha).

Thanks for the suggestion, but not what we're going for. =)


Edit: Sorry M, I only just now listened to the link. My mistake, I didn't realize you linked to a rock version of the carol. Who knows, maybe the guitarist will go for this after all.

Wow. That was pretty harsh. Oh well. The edit made me feel a bit better, though :)

What I was trying to get at is that most modern music is difficult to come by in paper form. And if you do, it's usually crippled or incomplete. In addition, modern music is very very hard to play by ear, which is what majority of your staff will have to do. Basically, I was stating that you're in a pretty difficult position for asking suggestions of musical works; no harm to you or your band.

Edit: Brought back the original message in my post.

Basically, I was looking for song ideas. You did give us one, so thanks again.

Furthermore, I'm not really looking for sheet music (although MIDI's would help the pianist if someone had one), but the main purpose of me making this thread was to solicit suggestions for music that fell within the criteria outlined in my first post and which the club could, therefore, play.

I hope I've clarified enough to avoid unfortunate misunderstandings. I'm not trying to make enemies, which is why I sincerely hope my words aren't received in the wrong way.

Hmm...I got a decent song for you guys. It's called: Allegro Cantabile by Suemitsu and the Suemith. It's from the anime Nodame Cantabile and you won't have a problem finding the sheet music from Josh Aggarado's collection (http://josh.agarrado.net/music/anime/index.php?startswith=N)

The youtube link is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDkPdJJoqSc. You'll find it is at a some-what fast tempo (for piano at least) so I'm not sure what your guitarist would think of it.

Pretty much for guitar it is just chords. You can find the chord changes in the video, near the lyrics. Write those down and get your guitarist to find the TABs for those chords or just play them if he already knows how to.

The sheet music Josh transcribed has the singing melody, so you guys don't really have to worry too much about the singing if you don't want to. I'm not too sure on your skill level, but you say you can read. So the sheet music should be a big help for you.

Just some words of advice. I can play this song, and from my experiences, the piano contains many chords and a very repetitive LH sequence (like most of Josh's transcriptions if you have noticed). If you nail down the LH, the song would be quite simple to play. It just has a few RH variations, but overall the main melody is repeated.

This song, will definitely get you up and going with the beat. Everytime I play this, I always mash the piano so hard and fast.

Thank you. This is exactly the type of thing we need more of.

You've been a great help.