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Kevin Penkin
March 11th, 2010, 08:47 am
Yo GUYSSSSSSSS Long time no see. Took a break etc but I'll try and get more posts and responses to everyone now :)

So yeah.. I'm should probably start off the thread like I did the last one. Web-link!!

I started a new website and a new stage name, Hibiki Haruto. So yeah. Enjoy and I'll see more of you soon~!

http://www.hibikiharuto.com

deathraider
March 12th, 2010, 01:02 am
What does it mean?

Edit: Nevermind. :P

Kevin Penkin
March 12th, 2010, 01:10 am
What does it mean?

Edit: Nevermind. :P

“An echoing sound...soaring in the spring sunshine” ~ It's on my website now hahah.

deathraider
March 12th, 2010, 02:25 am
BTW, I just have been meaning to say something to you for a long time. I really loved "Air" when you posted that, so I put it on my mp3 player. However, there's always something about the end that bugs me a little. For some reason it sounds too complete to me...it's such a small thing, but it urks me when I listen! Hahaha...

I really liked "Mirky Feelings" on your new page. I also really like the mix of minor pentatonic and dorian modes at the beginning of the piece "Colour Dance"; that's a really nice touch! The instrumentation is nice, as well. Your flute sound in "Dragon Cave" is sooo good! I am a little jealous! I really like the more quirky moments of this piece! I love Mt. Kain, which is obviously quite Hisaishi-like, but which has a really cool personal voice in it as well! It's not so generic as some of the ones at the top of the page. :)

I wish the embedded player on your page had a volume-control...

Kevin Penkin
March 12th, 2010, 04:02 am
Cheers~~ Ok so are you referring to Air or Air for Orchestra? They're 2 different pieces :P

@ Dragon cave - thanks but it doesn't beat a real performer. Maybe now that I'm at Uni I can get a flute player hehe.

I'm interested to see what you meant by "generic" and what pieces you were referring to.

Also yeah I do have a volume option but i never thought it was such a big deal. Out of curiosity what did you find that was needed by that volume control?

deathraider
March 12th, 2010, 04:19 am
Sorry, Air orchestrated.

I'm referring specifically to songs like "After Birth" and "Flow" (which use a really similar chord progression which is pretty generic in and of itself). I actually really liked the intro of Flow, but then the middle section just seems a little unoriginal.

Kevin Penkin
March 12th, 2010, 05:14 am
Interesting to hear After Birth mentioned haha. I guess I want to disagree because I fell After Birth uses a few more 'uncommon' techniques inside that chord progression like isorhythms. With flow I get what ya mean :)

deathraider
March 12th, 2010, 05:28 am
I'll have to listen again later more thoroughly. My point was more that "Mt. Kain" was really cool because it felt like it had more of your personal style in it rather than that I disliked those other pieces. I don't dislike them, I just like "Mt. Kain" much better.

Kevin Penkin
March 12th, 2010, 05:34 am
OH man yeah I don't mind that hahah. That's cool that you like my work, much appreciated and of course, I also like you work. I was just explaining n stuff and yada yada~

deathraider
March 12th, 2010, 05:39 am
No worries. I just wanted to be clear in what I meant. :)

Noir7
March 12th, 2010, 05:15 pm
Strange name... but still, I think you've developed in the right direction since you first popped up here at Ichigo's Forums. So when are you coming here to Tokyo to showcase your stuff to your right audience?

Kevin Penkin
March 12th, 2010, 11:30 pm
Hey mans~! Long time no see! Yeah thanks for checking out the site, I won't be taking another holiday to Japan until the very end of this year leading into the next.

Nyu001
March 14th, 2010, 11:43 pm
Hibiki Haruto is your name translation or a stage name you just want to have? I have commented to you personally to many of your pieces. And waiting for the final version with choir and singers for Word's end. I am curious to see how that will turn out!

There is a weird thing in the welcome page that keep happening to me. After your welcome piece finish and I click somewhere else in the page, all moves to the left side, hiding part of your pic and text. I don't know if that happen to others.

And I like your welcome music. Really nice. My only complain would be just the solo violin patch. Maybe a different patch? Or layered with another?

Kevin Penkin
March 15th, 2010, 12:08 am
Hibiki Haruto is not a translation of my actual name hehe. It's just the stage name I want to take on. I'll keep you posted on Sekai!

That's weird, about the welcome page. I recommend using firefox though, maybe that would solve the problem.

Awwwwww you don't like the violin patch? haha. It's not THAT bad is it?? :S

Nyu001
March 15th, 2010, 12:19 am
I use Firefox. But probably I need to update mines!

And no, is not that bad, haha.

Kevin Penkin
March 15th, 2010, 12:40 am
ohhh haha. okkei

deathraider
March 15th, 2010, 12:59 am
And waiting for the final version with choir and singers for Word's end. I am curious to see how that will turn out!

Wait, you have a choral piece and I didn't know about it?! I wanna see!

Nyu001
March 15th, 2010, 01:12 am
It's the electronica one. First track he has on his Music.

deathraider
March 15th, 2010, 02:51 am
Oh! Haha...

Kevin Penkin
March 15th, 2010, 02:59 am
Oh! Haha...

yeah that be the one ^^ Got to ok to record the Uni choir so all shall be well. Gimi till like...April though. hahah

aaron FtW!!11
March 15th, 2010, 03:03 am
This isn't really music related. But holy crap...you had lunch with nobuo uematsu?!? That's insanely awesome in so many ways!

deathraider
March 15th, 2010, 03:52 am
yeah that be the one ^^ Got to ok to record the Uni choir so all shall be well. Gimi till like...April though. hahah Can't you get them to record my piece? Haha...

Kevin Penkin
March 15th, 2010, 04:14 am
@ aaron - yeah what was an pretty insane motherf'cking day~

@deathrider- talking about Breath Eternal right?

deathraider
March 15th, 2010, 04:45 am
Well yeah, but I was [mostly] joking!

Kevin Penkin
March 15th, 2010, 09:39 am
ohh ok haha

KaitouKudou
March 18th, 2010, 07:26 pm
Kevin is a spring person ;)

halfangelfreak
March 26th, 2010, 12:22 am
Hi kevin! Nice site and all that!

Kevin Penkin
March 26th, 2010, 07:34 am
Hi kevin! Nice site and all that!

Thanks!

Ok so there is SO MUCH music I want to share but I will just go with this one for now. Because it is the one I am most interested in right now.

It's for this dance piece at my Uni. This is the 1st of three phases however it is far from finished. I have just written in some of the essentials. This piece incorporates isorhythms and pulses. With that piano pulse you will hear, it is actually 2 VST pianos repeating a pulse that is grouped in bars of 4.

However, one of those pianos tunes up from A440 to A453 over the first 2 bars, and back again in the last 2. Then they loop. I have used sine waves as well because I am really in love with that texture right now.

So far I only have 2 synths playing 1 isorhythm, however this Sunday I am going into the recording studio to record some interesting percussive sounds, vocals from my jazz singer friend and also myself. And maybe more!!

~Let me know

halfangelfreak
March 26th, 2010, 11:20 am
Well that was unique! I like it! Kinda creepy-ish sounding and a little mysterious.


Just wish I didn't have the volume on my headphones all the way up, haha.


Can't wait to here the full version. I bet it will sound fantastic.

Kevin Penkin
March 26th, 2010, 02:51 pm
Cheerz

Kevin Penkin
March 26th, 2010, 04:25 pm
Did more on the Phase 1 piece :D I have put an intro at the directors request, luckily I like it! hahah. I'm a tiny bit concerned on the piano entry, I'd like to hear what you think at that part. Also I have added a pulsing pad bass. However I still need to record vocals and percussion on Sunday so expect the 3rd test sometime after that!! :D Enjoy

Alfonso de Sabio
March 26th, 2010, 10:54 pm
This piece grew on me. I really had trouble getting into it until about half way through. The piano part is kind of obnoxious until the other parts come in, but when they do, it justifies the previous measures.

I really like the sound effect at the end.

deathraider
March 26th, 2010, 11:00 pm
What exactly do you mean by "dance piece"? Will it be used at a dance or in more of a dance-concert setting?

This kind of music is one of my current fascinations, so I really enjoy it. I'm excited to see what else you end up doing with it.

Kevin Penkin
March 27th, 2010, 12:40 am
@ Alfonso - Thanks dude! I'll be changing a few more things around when I get those samples so you'll see more development soon!

@ Deathrider - It's a contemporary dance piece. Details are sketchy but I'll try and write something later that can summarise what the piece is all about!

Nyu001
March 27th, 2010, 02:04 am
I like when both piano's pulse plays together. The pulsed piano note reminded me to a piece I was working in December. But different approach. ^^ Hope to hear it with the other stuffs added!

Kevin Penkin
March 28th, 2010, 04:02 pm
Is very happy to say the studio recording session was INSANE! The vocalist I used (the female voice) has the most amazing tone ever. Hope you enjoy the added white noise, vocals and viola screeching :D

PorscheGTIII
March 28th, 2010, 04:33 pm
That's pretty interesting! Will this develop into something new?

The piano effect you used reminded me of those typical railroad crossings you hear in anime. :heh:

deathraider
March 28th, 2010, 08:01 pm
I like it! I kind of wasn't sure of the purpose of the white noise, though...

Nyu001
March 28th, 2010, 08:45 pm
I like the white noise and the vocalist sounds good.

Kevin Penkin
April 14th, 2010, 09:36 am
Sorry! I'll comment on everyone's new compositions soon! I am rewriting the music to the final boss theme of FFVI! BIG TASK.

The piece (Dancing Mad, the original) and the battle is split into 4 phases or movements which is what I'm going to be doing as well. So far I have 1 movement complete (although I'll make fine tunes) and now I'm working on the 2nd movement.

Notes on the 1st movement are; The drums are a little tedious so I need to go back and shake up the rhythms/cut out some overplayed sections. With the section section (apart from the fact it's incomplete) I'm gonna probably add hammond organ when the drums get into a grove to make it more interesting and such. I'm aiming to finish this by the start of May so lets hope I can!

You can download at http://public.me.com/happyramenstudios and the file is "Dancing Mad Demo Incomplete" (I think) haha.

deathraider
April 14th, 2010, 08:43 pm
This is a personal taste thing, but I really wish those chords at :15 and at :21 would hold instead of changing/resolving. Haha...

When the strings come in, they sound very dry in my ear as compared to the rest of the sounds. I'm not sure if I like this effect very much. I also agree that the percussion part is a little boring in some sections for "mad" or "dancing", so I'm excited to see you spruce those up. The reiteration of that cadence at 3:35 seems a little unnecessary. I feel like it contributes to a feeling that the music is dragging on. It was really nice, however, when that piano interlude came in and made things exciting, but I wish that had happened sooner so that we could get more into the stuff that happens at the end! After the exciting stuff that happens at the end, it would be kind of a downer to go all the way back to the beginning; are you planning to loop it all the way back?

Kevin Penkin
April 15th, 2010, 03:02 am
Hey thanks for the feedback! What happened is that I uploaded a new version a few hours after this so please make sure you are now listening to the version that doesn't have the band in the 1st repetition and has the electric organ in the 2nd section.

Sorry I won't change those chords at :15 and :21 hahah. With 3:35ish, with the new changes in instrumentation I THINK it should be interesting enough, let me know what version you were listening to.

Nyu001
April 15th, 2010, 03:53 am
That piano + harp + flute is great. ;)

deathraider
April 15th, 2010, 04:07 am
This doesn't really sound any different from the one I was listening to. The chords thing at the beginning isn't a big deal, it's just what I would have done.


Hey thanks for the feedback! What happened is that I uploaded a new version a few hours after this so please make sure you are now listening to the version that doesn't have the band in the 1st repetition and has the electric organ in the 2nd section.

Sorry I won't change those chords at :15 and :21 hahah. With 3:35ish, with the new changes in instrumentation I THINK it should be interesting enough, let me know what version you were listening to.

Kevin Penkin
April 15th, 2010, 05:07 am
Well so far, when listening it to the track it hasn't been that tedious to me with the instrument changes. Maybe I'll just wait, write more then review.

deathraider
April 15th, 2010, 06:19 am
Well so far, when listening it to the track it hasn't been that tedious to me with the instrument changes. Maybe I'll just wait, write more then review.

I dunno...I just feel like it kind of feels like a really long intro to the last section, so that's why it feels like it's dragging on to me. The music itself isn't necessarily tedious by itself--in fact, by itself I really like it and it reminds me a little of the Rachmaninoff Vespers I performed last weekend--but in the context of what's going on in the game at this point and what's going on later in the music, it feels kind of like it's dragging on or something. Does that make sense?
:heh:

Kevin Penkin
April 15th, 2010, 10:52 am
I dunno...I just feel like it kind of feels like a really long intro to the last section, so that's why it feels like it's dragging on to me. The music itself isn't necessarily tedious by itself--in fact, by itself I really like it and it reminds me a little of the Rachmaninoff Vespers I performed last weekend--but in the context of what's going on in the game at this point and what's going on later in the music, it feels kind of like it's dragging on or something. Does that make sense?
:heh:
Ah, well I do get what you're saying. Just a few notes are that traditionally, Kefka is a long boss battle, and that incomplete section is the 2nd of 4 sections so we have time! It's still early in the piece =D

deathraider
April 15th, 2010, 08:43 pm
Oh, I was under the impression that this was all for the first phase. I have actually beaten Kefka, though, so I know all about that...haha. I guess I'll just wait and see how it all comes together.

Kevin Penkin
April 17th, 2010, 01:24 pm
Ok so I have jumped to 3 and bit movements. Basically I moved to repetition of the 1st section to become the last section, and I'll be recording my friend shredding over it. The 2nd movement is done although I'm probably gonna be fine tuning for a week after I get all the notes down haha.

With the 3rd section (big organ solo), I still need to write that so you'll hear what could be called the introduction to the solo, but then silence.. :heh: Obviously I'll write it out there. After that in comes the final section, which is a (more or less) repeat of the 1st section with increased instrumentation. Hopefully I'll get my friend to shred sicknuts guitar at my house into the pc next week!

Also, there is no ending yet.. download at http://public.me.com/happyramenstudios cause it's too big! haha. Also there are some tech issues around I'll kill for the final mix, obviously.

Kevin Penkin
April 20th, 2010, 04:04 pm
Dancing Mad Full Demo. I have done a lot since last time so hope you all enjoy it so far. It's maybe.. 85% there.. http://public.me.com/happyramenstudios

deathraider
April 20th, 2010, 04:39 pm
The first section definitely feels like it's building tension a lot better now that you took out that repeat. That's all I have time to listen to right now, so I'll come back later. I noticed the cadence at 2:25 had a LOT of leading tone in it, which I didn't really like in the tonal context of the piece. I'm not sure how I would fix it in this case, though.

Kevin Penkin
April 21st, 2010, 04:05 am
The first section definitely feels like it's building tension a lot better now that you took out that repeat. That's all I have time to listen to right now, so I'll come back later. I noticed the cadence at 2:25 had a LOT of leading tone in it, which I didn't really like in the tonal context of the piece. I'm not sure how I would fix it in this case, though.

The piece is harmonically all over the place. believe me there's not just tonal stuff in there and there's heeeeeeaps in intentional dissonance. Even though the piece has a lot of consonant context.

KaitouKudou
April 21st, 2010, 04:50 am
so yeah I said that I wouldn't listen till friday but I couldn't keep myself from checking it out. me and my lack of self control..thanks you just totally took away 15min of my studying time away!:lol:

I thought the first half was very nice. The dissonance were fine the way it was. the organ solo in the middle felt like it was too long and I lost the boss battle image that the first half has created. Although I think the general idea of "the downfall of the church" feeling is still there and I think that's partially what the theme for dancing mad was too. The electric guitar intro felt kind of random. Maybe if there was another section with it playing prior to it, it would have worked out better. Also, the electric guitar felt a bit off balance with the rest the instruments.

cheers!
KK

deathraider
April 21st, 2010, 04:52 am
The piece is harmonically all over the place. believe me there's not just tonal stuff in there and there's heeeeeeaps in intentional dissonance. Even though the piece has a lot of consonant context.

I understand that; however, that particular section had a very tonal-sounding context. Personal taste, though...

Kevin Penkin
April 21st, 2010, 05:12 am
so yeah I said that I wouldn't listen till friday but I couldn't keep myself from checking it out. me and my lack of self control..thanks you just totally took away 15min of my studying time away!:lol:

I thought the first half was very nice. The dissonance were fine the way it was. the organ solo in the middle felt like it was too long and I lost the boss battle image that the first half has created. Although I think the general idea of "the downfall of the church" feeling is still there and I think that's partially what the theme for dancing mad was too. The electric guitar intro felt kind of random. Maybe if there was another section with it playing prior to it, it would have worked out better. Also, the electric guitar felt a bit off balance with the rest the instruments.

cheers!
KK

Moahah. I steal your life! I think the image of the boss battle (in the organ solo) will be re-enforced with the image. The guitar IS too loud and will be brought down so don't worry about that. I think if it's mixed down right the guitar can sound more like a part of the piece then this random instrument added.

deathraider
April 21st, 2010, 02:44 pm
I just watched the trailer, and it's pretty exciting. :)

Kevin Penkin
April 21st, 2010, 02:47 pm
glad you liked it

Kevin Penkin
April 25th, 2010, 01:39 pm
New, new-age composition! =D

It's called Endless Waves. It's a piano improvisation (recorded live on a grand piano) which is then orchestrated with sine waves and white noise. よろしく

Nyu001
April 25th, 2010, 02:30 pm
That cracked me up, lol. I love the white noise. The sine wave was funny. The piano sounds great.

KaitouKudou
April 25th, 2010, 05:43 pm
I totally see this little creature running around hiding and coming about with that piece.

Edit" OOO the static in the back is suppouse to represent the ocean!!! I didn't realize that until the song was over lol. I thought it was just from a bad mic.

Kevin Penkin
April 26th, 2010, 01:43 am
no bad mic recordings here! that's white noizeeeeeeeeee =D

deathraider
April 26th, 2010, 02:10 am
You should try playing around with a VC Filter on some white or pink noise to produce a sort of wind-like sound; It might be a kind of cool effect with the "ocean" atmosphere. Also, for my personal taste I would back the sine wave off a little bit because it's pretty piercing.

Solaphar
April 26th, 2010, 02:11 am
My personal opinions on Endless Ocean:

The pulsating tone (sine wave you said?) gets old quick. Maybe change something about it. Perhaps the dynamics (maybe make it have slow cresendos and decrescendos over an extended period of time), and/or perhaps lower its overall volume.

The static at the end crescendos too slowly, and is, consequently quite annoying. I think it'll be more jarring (and thus effective) if you speed up that crescendo. Perhaps 5 or six time faster.

Other than that, nice job.

Kevin Penkin
April 26th, 2010, 02:46 am
@ Deathraider - What parts were piercing? I constantly was checking between studio monitors and speakers to insure the mix was good so unless you got your EQ out of whack?

@ Solaphar- Thanks for listening. Obviously as you said it's your personal opinion, which is cool. However I'm probably not going to apply what you suggested. The piece is meditative so it's gonna be one of those pieces that will get very tedious if you're not getting into it. The drone was checked and modified many times on many speakers to ensure it just "sat" there so check if you can change EQ on your speakers/headphones?

With the noise at the end, valid point, but i don't want it to be a jarring experience. If it gradually builds the brain has more time to process what is happening, but also if it is slowly reaching the obvious threshold the brain automatically starts to make predictions about where the sound it going which can lead to an interesting experience. That's what I'm going for.

deathraider
April 26th, 2010, 03:03 am
@ Deathraider - What parts were piercing? I constantly was checking between studio monitors and speakers to insure the mix was good so unless you got your EQ out of whack?


I don't mean that it's overdriving or anything, and I checked my EQ so it's nothing to do with that. I just mean that the volume at which you have the sine wave at the moment makes it come into the foreground a lot; because of the nature of the sine wave, you sometimes have to make it even quieter than you might expect for it to stay balanced with the other parts. I'm not quite sure how to explain it exactly. In any case, that has more to do with how I am conceptualizing the purpose of the sine wave in the piece (and is therefore a matter of personal taste) rather than with what is correct or incorrect.

Also, I found a cool patch (http://www.crumble-onuts.com/music/Wind.aiff) for SuperCollider that you may or may not like.

Kevin Penkin
April 26th, 2010, 03:08 am
fix link?

deathraider
April 26th, 2010, 03:14 am
Hmmm...works for me. Try this (http://www.crumble-onuts.com/music/Wind).

Solaphar
April 26th, 2010, 02:14 pm
I was just trying to say that a 30 second build up of static to the highest gain can be interpreted as very unpleasant.

Personally speaking, it compels me to either turn the volume down or just press the stop button. My point in having it end faster is so you get the build up before someone decides to do one of those two things. =/

However, if you insist on keeping the length, the very least I would suggest you do it make the crescendo more gradual at first and then speed it up towards the end. Either way, I strongly believe you should keep the total duration of high-gain static to a minimum. I think it's too long at too loud, in other words...

Kevin Penkin
April 27th, 2010, 10:53 am
That's cool man, thanks for the feedback. However I do want to disagree. For me that rise is an engulfing experience that changes the listeners perception of the piece. In a positive or a negative way. That in itself if intriguing enough for me to keep it.

Mushyrulez
April 28th, 2010, 02:51 am
...That was.. amazing. It managed to be.. peaceful, but the waves made it sound like the ocean... though the title seems misleading, as the ocean waves are hitting something, making it not endless :P

...Can we hear the original...?

Kevin Penkin
April 28th, 2010, 02:58 am
Thanks, but this is the original ;)

Solaphar
April 29th, 2010, 04:14 am
That's cool man, thanks for the feedback. However I do want to disagree. For me that rise is an engulfing experience that changes the listeners perception of the piece. In a positive or a negative way. That in itself if intriguing enough for me to keep it.
Understandable. It is your composition afterall. I was just trying to help you keep it accessible to potential listeners, but I could be wrong. Perhaps most people don't mind it that much (it's probably just me, in other words).

Kevin Penkin
April 29th, 2010, 04:22 pm
HEY EVERYONE~

SWEET NEWS! I finished Dancing Mad! Feel free to check it out at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvipwpgg2wg

I'd love feedback/comment if you want!

Ander
April 30th, 2010, 01:26 am
Endless Ocean: sweet mercy... thing gets loud like no other. hope you're happy kevin:what: other than that it didn't really fancy me.

Dancing Mad: Where is that song from? you composed it? I don't mean to be rude or anything... but i didn't really care for it. it had the element of the final fantasy battle song... but i guess i'm too spoiled with the original ff composer. i would suggest that you either start with a bang... or ease it up and then blow it up. i think it's too stuck in the middle ground... no tension.

Kevin Penkin
April 30th, 2010, 03:12 am
yeah super happy hahah! (on a high)

You're not being rude, you're being honest, which I like. Could you explain what you mean though cause I think the piece did have highs and lows. Maybe those sections did come in longer parts (ie. 2nd part compared to the 3rd part) but they were there. I do think the final phase also did ramp it up more cause of the guitar solo. But that's all personal opinion, composer or non-composer. And yeah, Uematsu is frickin' nuts! haha

BTW yeah, I wrote it lol

Ander
May 5th, 2010, 12:58 am
simple... i would have liked it if you started the very first part with a bang! like... every instrument that you'd consider epic and majestic. cymbals trying to kill each other, timpani trying to get the most attention, flutes crying in the corner, electric guitar and drum sets trying to get their share in the glory. hehehe. you get the idea.

my guess is that you tried to merge your song to the action. to me, personally, when i listen to your music.... i see a scene being attached to your piece.... not the other way around.

Kevin Penkin
May 5th, 2010, 07:56 am
simple... i would have liked it if you started the very first part with a bang! like... every instrument that you'd consider epic and majestic. cymbals trying to kill each other, timpani trying to get the most attention, flutes crying in the corner, electric guitar and drum sets trying to get their share in the glory. hehehe. you get the idea.

my guess is that you tried to merge your song to the action. to me, personally, when i listen to your music.... i see a scene being attached to your piece.... not the other way around.

Interesting response haha. Ok. So obviously that's one way I can do it, however the problem then this; It's the start of the piece and it can't build anymore. If a 13 min piece hit's it's dynamic peek in the first measure then it unfortunately kills the impact it's meant to have later in the piece. I did this piece a while back called "air for orchestra" and I had the piece's climax about 30 seconds in and it showed.

With the other comment. Yeah there are scenes or games where I have either seen music be put to motion or vice versa. I sort of consider this a technique or artistic decision made.. probably by the director. Obviously since this was a solo project, bias was involved thus I probably made the movie fit around the music more than the other way round.

Kevin Penkin
May 6th, 2010, 02:30 pm
Hey I'm working on something involving the vocaloids I bought in Japan! I'm not ace at the software and anyone why speaks japanese is gonna go "WHAT THE HELL ARE WITH THESE LYRICS, THEY DON'T MAKE SENSE AND ARE HORRIBLE!". Forgive me for that, I just needed a filled, I'm not a lyricist or fluent in Japanese lol!

http://public.me.com/happyramenstudios

~Sung my Hatsune Miku

Kevin Penkin
May 9th, 2010, 02:12 pm
Finished Hatsune Miku song. (mostly) http://public.me.com/happyramenstudios

deathraider
May 9th, 2010, 05:58 pm
I want that software!

KaitouKudou
May 9th, 2010, 11:39 pm
I was looking into the program a while back. I tried to pirate it but I tried to downloaded but couldn't find one that worked lol

Ander
May 12th, 2010, 01:21 am
when you said the lyrics don't make any sense... did you mean you the lyrics don't make sense relevant to the vocalaid? or did you mean you actually have a software that allows you to have a voice and lyrics? like you can make the software to pronounce certain phonemes in different pitch and stuff?

I liked the song. it was cute in a way. and i don't really use the word "cute" too.

Kevin Penkin
May 12th, 2010, 01:38 am
yeah. his vocaliod, hatsune miku is from japan so you can type in japanese vowels on the piano role where you also type in pitch. Like this http://img3.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire1/08112008/5/7/9/8/579866e456fee0_full.jpg

Solaphar
May 12th, 2010, 06:19 am
Yeah, there's actually a free, fan-made version of Vocaloid-type software called UTAU (http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&=&q=UTAU).

I'm actually working on making my own UTAU. Once I get my new Blue Yeti microphone set-up properly and have a whole day free, I'm going to try to record all the samples.


Anyway,getting back on topic...

Kevin, I really liked the chord progression in Hatsune Haruto. Were there any particular songs that influenced you on that piece? Sounds good, keep at it.

Kevin Penkin
May 12th, 2010, 06:20 am
Yeah. One beastly song influenced me lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51EC8w47J8A&playnext_from=TL&videos=ZSFQGXn5OtI

you can see the similarities but hopefully you can see how I am tried to make them my own too.

Solaphar
May 13th, 2010, 11:12 am
Yeah. One beastly song influenced me lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51EC8w47J8A&playnext_from=TL&videos=ZSFQGXn5OtI

you can see the similarities but hopefully you can see how I am tried to make them my own too.
They do sound a little similar in the beginning, but I think your composition definitely stands on its own after that. I liked the steady kick drum beat, and also I liked your use of the bass guitar, for the most part. There were a few spots where I thought it moved a little weirdly, in my opinion, but those were very few [If you want an example, like the part around 0:36 when it goes B-A-G-F#-G-B]. Really, it's more of a nitpick than a criticism. I like how your song has a nice calm, ambient feeling.

Sorry to keep peppering you with questions, but what composing software do you use? I've been looking at getting something new recently but I can't decide. And do you use a staff view or a piano roll view, or some combination? The reason I ask is because I've been using a staff interface, but more and more lately, I can't help wondering if that may slowing me down. I've heard people tell me that I should switch to piano roll and I'm just wondering if maybe there's something to what they're telling me, or if it wouldn't make a difference or be any faster. Thanks.

Kevin Penkin
May 13th, 2010, 03:52 pm
They do sound a little similar in the beginning, but I think your composition definitely stands on its own after that. I liked the steady kick drum beat, and also I liked your use of the bass guitar, for the most part. There were a few spots where I thought it moved a little weirdly, in my opinion, but those were very few [If you want an example, like the part around 0:36 when it goes B-A-G-F#-G-B]. Really, it's more of a nitpick than a criticism. I like how your song has a nice calm, ambient feeling.

Sorry to keep peppering you with questions, but what composing software do you use? I've been looking at getting something new recently but I can't decide. And do you use a staff view or a piano roll view, or some combination? The reason I ask is because I've been using a staff interface, but more and more lately, I can't help wondering if that may slowing me down. I've heard people tell me that I should switch to piano roll and I'm just wondering if maybe there's something to what they're telling me, or if it wouldn't make a difference or be any faster. Thanks.

All good dude, ask away I'm always happy to respond! @ :36 it's actually B A G F# E D (the bassoon right?)

I sequence, so I use piano role. However knowing how to read staff music is recommended greatly. (Sounds like you do though) Sound can vary on budget. So if you're looking for orchestra in a high budget, go Vienna Symphonic Library (what I use) or Eastwest/Quantum Leap Symphonic Orch.

Solaphar
May 13th, 2010, 09:48 pm
@ :36 it's actually B A G F# E D (the bassoon right?)
It's not a big issue. But yeah, it was the bass, not the bassoon, that I was referring to.


I sequence, so I use piano roll.
Yeah, I figured. But, I was wondering which program you use? Are pitch bends easy to make in it?

Thanks for the tips on the samples. I probably won't be going for the pro-quality stuff, as I'm still very much an amateur. Part of the reason for that is because I do not compose very often.

Thanks again.

Kevin Penkin
May 14th, 2010, 01:09 am
It's not a big issue. But yeah, it was the bass, not the bassoon, that I was referring to.


Yeah, I figured. But, I was wondering which program you use? Are pitch bends easy to make in it?

Thanks for the tips on the samples. I probably won't be going for the pro-quality stuff, as I'm still very much an amateur. Part of the reason for that is because I do not compose very often.

Thanks again.

If you have a midi controller with a pitch bend wheel then they are easy to make. Check you Logic (Mac) or Cubase (Mac/PC) and also this midi controller http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Axiom49.html

deathraider
May 14th, 2010, 04:57 am
If you have a midi controller with a pitch bend wheel then they are easy to make. Check you Logic (Mac) or Cubase (Mac/PC) and also this midi controller http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Axiom49.html

Pitch bends are pretty easy to make without the wheel, too, if you have Logic at least. :heh:

PS. This piece is really nice, Kevin! I want to do something like this, now, but I still kind of suck at electronically rendered music...haha.

Kevin Penkin
July 2nd, 2010, 04:54 pm
Something you guys might like =)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAziX6AKg_Q

V_for_Vital
July 2nd, 2010, 08:05 pm
Hey that is actually quite good!

At parts it sounded something along the lines of hans zimmer's "the last samurai" score though. especially the parts around 0:45-1:00 but its a very far stretch sort of comparison. some people might have agreed that added a heavy drum beat and letting that motif expand in terms of amount of intruments that are playing would have sounded like something hans zimmer would have done.

but that aside its a very sweet little tune, and definately holds its own atmosphere of reminiscence that Final Fantasy has.

I did a fanmade soundtrack for FF13 about 2 years ago now :P though completely different direction in terms of what that music had to illustrate XD

Kevin Penkin
July 3rd, 2010, 03:07 am
Hey that is actually quite good!

At parts it sounded something along the lines of hans zimmer's "the last samurai" score though. especially the parts around 0:45-1:00 but its a very far stretch sort of comparison. some people might have agreed that added a heavy drum beat and letting that motif expand in terms of amount of intruments that are playing would have sounded like something hans zimmer would have done.

but that aside its a very sweet little tune, and definately holds its own atmosphere of reminiscence that Final Fantasy has.

I did a fanmade soundtrack for FF13 about 2 years ago now :P though completely different direction in terms of what that music had to illustrate XD

did you upload?

V_for_Vital
July 3rd, 2010, 09:56 am
yea i can link you if you wanna check it out. but have to clarify that it was actually a collab between a friend and myself, i had a track in progress stage and then BAM he heard it and said we need to slap on some guitar on this bitch :P and in eventuality it was a fanmade FF13 track lol.

Kevin Penkin
July 4th, 2010, 03:43 am
yea i can link you if you wanna check it out. but have to clarify that it was actually a collab between a friend and myself, i had a track in progress stage and then BAM he heard it and said we need to slap on some guitar on this bitch :P and in eventuality it was a fanmade FF13 track lol.

kwl~

Ander
July 6th, 2010, 05:47 pm
did you make this piece (final fantasy xv)? why do i always ask people this question, i wonder. i wanna draw something to this song. oh art god... will divine ye grant me a gift of awesomeness?