everytime i see a post its about piano sheet music why isnt there anything for guitar players here? its frustrating and people ask for tabs all the time i dont see why it is so hard to answer my posts

Guitars are capable of playing "piano sheet music" too you know...

Guitars are capable of playing "piano sheet music" too you know...
QFT. Although with the added caveat that some piano parts aren't playable on a six-string guitar, since you can only play six simultaneous notes, and can only fret in certain ways (limiting the distance between each note), unless you use two-handed tapping.

But the point is, stuff written for piano can be modified to be playable on the guitar, you just have to know how to read the notes from the sheet music and find those same notes on your fretboard.

Also, most guitars only have a 3 & 1/2 to 4 octave range, so there's that to consider too, but this is rarely a problem as the guitar range is on the grand staff. For the instances where you're getting significant ledger lines above or below the grand staff, you can just octave shift some notes as necessary.

well i think you need to take into consideration the fact that not everybody wants to go through all that and if thats the case then people that make piano sheet music need to translate it to guitar because that isnt the readers job not only that but not everyone knows how to read sheet music because it defeats the purpose of appealing to people that are interested in music but are noobs when it comes to learning guitar or sheet music and its very elitist

then people that make piano sheet music need to translate it to guitar because that isnt the readers job
Actually, I would say that it is the readers job. I wouldn't go into a foreign country and demand that the residents translate all the signs for me because "it isnt the readers job" to learn to read/speak their language. If anything, I'd be the elitist for doing that, not to mention arrogant (btw, not saying that you are, merely giving an example).

Honestly, it really isn't that hard to learn the notes of the grand staff if you just spend a few minutes every day memorizing this picture (also click on the picture to go to the site I got it from):
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3451/gsnotes.gif (http://www.musictheory.halifax.ns.ca/2notes.html)


Sorry if that's too much work for you. It might take you a few weeks, but it's good to know this, so please at least try to learn it.


Edit: Since you'll also need to learn the notes on your fretboard, just click the thumbnail below for full size:
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1772/guitarfretboard.th.gif (http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1772/guitarfretboard.gif)
Here's the site I got the second image from: Click here (http://www.guitaralliance.com/guitar_lessons/discover_the_fretboard/notes_on_the_fretboard.htm)

You have to remember that you're not the only one with this problem. Lots of people only transcribe for specific instruments because they have a backround with that instrument. Everytime that you see that sheet music for piano that someone requested/transcribed, while you're complaining about how it's not for guitar, ten other people are probably upset that it's not for their instrument too. That's why I started transcribing for B flat instuments. If you know enough about how to transcribe frets and tabs and other things (sorry, I don't play guitar; I'm not familiar with the terms), then find a program and do it yourself. Everyone would benefit from that. If you can't find a program, you can print out plain sheet music and write it down.

"Sorry if that's too much work for you."
Sango

well i think you need to take into consideration the fact that not everybody wants to go through all that and if thats the case then people that make piano sheet music need to translate it to guitar because that isnt the readers job not only that but not everyone knows how to read sheet music because it defeats the purpose of appealing to people that are interested in music but are noobs when it comes to learning guitar or sheet music and its very elitist

But everyone on this forum is certainly capable of reading music. I think you're overlooking the fact that transcribers are doing people on this site a big favor. Do you have any basis to complain, at all? It's just a 'teach a man how to fish' thing. When we try to tell you how to read music, it's in your best interest! Think about it - what if you could transcribe all the songs you wanted to play, and didn't have to ask anyone else to do it? Wouldn't that be great? Yeah, it is!

At any rate, it's quite difficult to 'translate' music written for piano to guitar. That's arranging music, and it's more time-consuming than just transcribing. So...post some links...or take matters into your own hands~

I would love to transcribe/arrange music for the guitar or band!

But... I have 2 problems currently:

1. I have not touched a guitar before and I have limited knowledge for it. This is not really an excuse, as I would be happy to learn if I have time...

2. I don't even have enough time to finish transcribing all those piano/vocal/strings scores...

By the way, some people use the software called Finale to notate music. As far as I know, you can simply copy the music from a normal staff and paste it on a tab and it will appear with all the numbers on the tab (bare in mind you have to transpose an octave for the guitar). So it might be an easy way to convert some music scores you already have into guitar tabs. Some effort is needed though, to type out the music manually if you dont have the .mus file. This does not really require much skill at all, but it does require you to have the software... Will probably benefit other musicians too if someone does it. ^_^ (Note that i may be talking rubbish here since i have never done a proper guitar tab before.)

By the way (ii), please type with punctuations (at least put periods for end of sentences!), it is very difficult to read otherwise. (It is equally difficult if you put "and" between every sentence.)

actually it still isnt the readers job your analogy of going to a different country doesnt work because the point of the websites is for everyone to get their sheet music or tabs or whatever in a way its similar to a peer helping website when a person is not able to find or transcribe something the peers reply to the post and attempt to assist them not only that but i tried transcrribing music and it didnt work out not only that but not everyone on this website has the time to translate piano to guitar and that isnt the readers job because if someone or anyone is capable of transcribing guitar tabs or has the tabs on hand then as a peer and as a member of a peer h elp website because of the obligations that the website demands it is partially their duty for people to say "no you should translate it to guitar and transcribe it yourself" does nto portray the spirit that the website denotes like i said before part of the purpose of the forums is for peer helping and even if that was truly your philosophy then youd be telling pianists the same thing rather than giving them like 50 answers and helpin them and then throowing guitarists to the wollves to fend for themselves

Ah!!! My eyes!!! How can anyone read that...

I didn't realise I have such obligations to do stuff for people whenever they ask. Perhaps I'd better check the rules again...

Edit: oh, and I was trying to help by suggesting you could do it in Finale relatively skilllessly... maybe it is too difficult afterall. I mean, typing with punctuations is difficult too. XD

lol i gotta hand it to you dude youre hilarious

(intrudes in the music section again)

while some users are kind enough to create tabs for music yes there are a few though youll have to dig deep into this pidgin hole not many transcribers here are willing to do so for the same reason why you do not want to learn how to read music its just too tedious to create them especially considering that between writing music for a universally understood symbolic form for a very domain specific style turns most people off to the idea i wouldnt call this elitist as not to effective and lean it may be in your best interest to learn how to read sheet music and transcribe them to tabulator if tabulation is an absolute must

Translated:

(intrudes in the music section again)

While some users are kind enough to create tabs for music -- yes, there are a few, though you'll have to dig deep into this pidgin hole -- not many transcribers here are willing to do so for the same reason why you do not want to learn how to read music: it's just too tedious to create them. Especially considering that between writing music for a universally understood symbolic form for a very domain specific style turns most people off to the idea. I wouldn't call this elitist as not to effective and lean.

It may be in your best interest to learn how to read sheet music and transcribe them to tabulator if tabulation is an absolute must.

Edit:
And on another note, we're anime/game music transcribers. Asking about tabular for Aqua Times and Will Young is a far cry from anime or game sheet music. Some transcribers here are nice and may do your request or attempt to redirect you, but others will scoff in your face making requests like this.

ITT: lazy guitar player adds to the species stereotype by demanding people adhere to its every whim.


Grow up, or get out. People here do you a favour, its no-one's 'obligation' to do anything for you, we come here because it is a community and we enjoy it, not because it is our day job.

and we do it for free. I don't know any guitar arrangers on these forums. If you're extremely desperate, you really have no choice but to rearrange the piano sheet music into guitar do you? Unless of course you rather wait for a new guitar arranger to show up...

(intrudes in the music section again)

while some users are kind enough to create tabs for music yes there are a few though youll have to dig deep into this pidgin hole not many transcribers here are willing to do so for the same reason why you do not want to learn how to read music its just too tedious to create them especially considering that between writing music for a universally understood symbolic form for a very domain specific style turns most people off to the idea i wouldnt call this elitist as not to effective and lean it may be in your best interest to learn how to read sheet music and transcribe them to tabulator if tabulation is an absolute must

Translated:

(intrudes in the music section again)

While some users are kind enough to create tabs for music -- yes, there are a few, though you'll have to dig deep into this pidgin hole -- not many transcribers here are willing to do so for the same reason why you do not want to learn how to read music: it's just too tedious to create them. Especially considering that between writing music for a universally understood symbolic form for a very domain specific style turns most people off to the idea. I wouldn't call this elitist as not to effective and lean.

It may be in your best interest to learn how to read sheet music and transcribe them to tabulator if tabulation is an absolute must.

Edit:
And on another note, we're anime/game music transcribers. Asking about tabular for Will Young and Aqua Times is a far cry from anime or game sheet music. Some transcribers here are nice and may do your request or attempt to redirect you, but others will scoff in your face making requests like this.

I also mentioned this elsewhere, but the song salsalover requested (Alones) is the Bleach 6th OP. And if that were specified, the request would have definitely gotten much more attention!

Yeah, the other one he keeps ranting about is a Will Young song though :P

What kind of crap guitarist cant play chords anywho. I can play at least ten chords and ive only played guitar for half an hour.

jeez.

well this what i mean by elitist behavior people on this website are selfish simply for the fact that they tend to only assist piano players what i am saying is that if youre going to help piano players and complain about helping guitar players maybe YOU should get out because youre infringing on the equality that comes with being a community and assisting peers not only that but the act of only helping people that play the same instrument as you is biased

and dude stop bragging i can play chords and have played songs by chord before but some of the songs i enjoy playing are played by string on acoustic alones by aqua times is only played by string not only that but im not asking for your opinions on what makes a good guitar player the fact that i choose to play songs by string to stand out is my choice part of playing an instrument is expressing yourself the way you choose so honestly i dont give a shit what you think i play chords only when i want and play string only when i want chord tabs are easy to find wich is why i never mention them or even put emplhesis on them ive played will young by chord and ive played alones by chord but sometimes i like playing by string because its beautiful and its simple its also important to remember out of the millions of people that play guitar not everyone wants to play by chord i know guitarists that kick ass at playing strings and chords just because people dont choose to play by chords doesnt mean they are bad guitar players a guitar player that chooses to only play by string could say the same about you just because you dont make the same choices as them if youre going to complai neverytime someone doesnt do what you see fit prepare for disappointment

the fact that there is even a stereo type against guitar players reveals the fact that im right about the judgmental and elitist behavior on this website if people want to get mad just because im asking for people to help guitarists as they help piano players then they need to go on facebook and complain because what they are doing is a form of denial and validation of favoritism violin,piano,flute and even clarinet sheet music requests get more responses than guitar sheet music requests if they even answer the request for guitar sheet music it was my understanding that this website was something to support instrumentalists for every instrument not just pianists some people cant transcribe things for themselves some people have tried and failed i stayed up all night trying to transcribe midis into guitar sheet music but when a pianist needs help people are the first to rush to their aid thats unfair its judgmental its biased and a clear act of favoritism rather than denying maybe you guys should consider that youre being biased for demanding that guitarists fend forthemselves but then helping everyone else except guitarists

Now that's one big run-on sentence ;) Come to think of it, none of your posts have periods (is the "." key broken?). Does the 3 consecutive posts represent paragraphs?

I hope you were just generalizing. I'm not an elitist, just stating facts. As I've said, I don't know any active guitar arrangers on this forum. We get guitar requestees yes, but no guitar arrangers available sadly. Unfortunately if you can't translate piano into guitar, then maybe get someone who can. Not me, I don't know anything about guitar notation. However, if I were that desperate for some piano sheet music, but it was in the form of tabs, I'd gladly take the time to learn it so I can translate any tabs I come across in the future.

Edit:


the fact that there is even a stereo type against guitar players reveals the fact that im right about the judgmental and elitist behavior on this website if people want to get mad just because im asking for people to help guitarists as they help piano players then they need to go on facebook and complain because what they are doing is a form of denial and validation of favoritism violin,piano,flute and even clarinet sheet music requests get more responses than guitar sheet music requests if they even answer the request for guitar sheet music it was my understanding that this website was something to support instrumentalists for every instrument not just pianists some people cant transcribe things for themselves some people have tried and failed i stayed up all night trying to transcribe midis into guitar sheet music but when a pianist needs help people are the first to rush to their aid thats unfair its judgmental its biased and a clear act of favoritism rather than denying maybe you guys should consider that youre being biased for demanding that guitarists fend forthemselves but then helping everyone else except guitarists

You sir are extremely ignorant. No more Mr. nice guy.


the fact that there is even a stereo type against guitar players reveals the fact that im right about the judgmental and elitist behavior on this website

Nice generalization you got there. Facts? Troll instigate a flamewar, people flame back, troll then use this as an excuse to make negative generalization towards said forums? =_=


if people want to get mad just because im asking demanding for people to help guitarists as they help piano players then they need to go on facebook and complain because what they are doing is a form of denial and validation of favoritism

Asking and demanding are two different things. This is how this flamewar got started. You saw this community lacking guitar arrangements, you then ask why? then you implicitly demanded arrangers to fulfill guitar requestees. Because we lack guitar arrangers, we told you to try translating it to guitar, but no, you refused and demanded others to do it for you.


violin,piano,flute and even clarinet sheet music requests get more responses than guitar sheet music requests if they even answer the request for guitar sheet music it was my understanding that this website was something to support instrumentalists for every instrument not just pianists

1. we lack guitar arrangers
2. your so called "understanding" and expectations are way off. Every instruments? Who the freck told you that? If we have the right people for the right job, then we'll get it done. If not, there is no choice but to do it yourself or ask someone else outside this forums.


some people cant transcribe things for themselves some people have tried and failed i stayed up all night trying to transcribe midis into guitar sheet music

Stay up all night huh? So it's just you? What about us? Imagine how hard it is for us to do direct transcribing off of mp3's; not just one song, but plenty of others. Plus it isn't the point of this discussion. For the transcribing part, leave that to us. I don't expect people to be able to do this so you should be thankful we're doing this for free, which is very time consuming. We do it for free because we enjoy it. You get the easy way out because all you have to do is rearrange it for guitar, no transcribing involved, but then again you refused. So what's easier than "easy"? You pressing Staple's "easy" button and hope it'll start churning out guitar sheet music or just you being lazy?

Btw, you don't have to transcribe off of midis. Just open it up in a notation software such as Finale and the answers will be revealed. Then again you're lazy as the answers will be in the form of noteheads (in notation) or bars (in DAW), and the fact it would sometimes have to be rearranged so it's legible. So I guess it's back to square one huh?


but when a pianist needs help people are the first to rush to their aid thats unfair
http://www.redstate.com/neil_stevens/files/2009/09/doublefacepalm.jpg
We have a lot of piano arrangers and piano requestees that's why.


its judgmental its biased and a clear act of favoritism rather than denying maybe you guys should consider that youre being biased for demanding that guitarists fend forthemselves but then helping everyone else except guitarists
maybe YOU should consider that you're being biased for demanding arrangers to arrange for guitarists when in fact they don't have that skill.

And please stop banging on about 'peer helping website'. its not.
If someone -wishes- to fulfil a request, ie, are able to do so, and they have the time available, they will.
In fact, i think there has been quite a bit of guitar music transcribed, but just because its not what you want, youre throwing a hissy fit. We do not 'rush to the aid' of piano players; if you were to actually open your eyes and LOOK, you would see that there are thousands of piano requests that go unfulfilled.

If you were so desparate for the music, you would take what you could find, and do it yourself.

I am amazed everyone else spent the effort to read through that stuff... I would not sacrifice my eyes. XD (Thanks brncao for splitting it up into sentences!)

------below is a very important point, please read------

Anyway, as I have mentioned, Finale actually does staff to tab conversion. As brncao said, midi to score is easy mode in Finale, and in fact it is even easier to then put it into tab (providing you know the basic functions of Finale and already have midi/score).

------the above is a very important point, please read------

The most difficult part of transcribing is getting the notes/rhythm from the original song by listening. So if you already have a midi or a score for other instruments, it is a big help. Then you can relatively easily make it to fit your instrument and play style. Often it is impossible to tailor for everyone: even with piano music or violin music, a piece can be arranged for different difficulty. I usually write something moderately difficult. It is then up to the performer to decide what he plays. And of course there are so many instruments, but the staff notation is generic and simply describes the music, whereas the tab notation is specific for an instrument. (Not to mention the disadvantage of tab in representing rhythm accurately.) As everyone said, it is for your own benefit to learn to read staff. It will open up a lot of possibilities for you to play. Imagine that you don't have to beg people for tab, but can play a lot of music rather than just the one or two you begged for! (Actually as I said earlier you know actually have to learn it if you use Finale. but it is more convenient if you simply can play the notes according to the score.)

Again we were trying to help. We simply want to convey to you that it is unlikely you will find direct help here, but also want to tell you ways that you may achieve your objective.

By the way, I actually know guitarists who read staff notation and they only ask me to write in that. :P

Edit: I would say similar things if I was asked to write keyboard/piano tab! Thankfully I think I have only been asked once before...
Writing in staff notation can in fact be seen as an attempt to help all instruments rather than be specific!

Now that's one big run-on sentence Come to think of it, none of your posts have periods (is the "." key broken?). Does the 3 consecutive posts represent paragraphs?

I hope you were just generalizing. I'm not an elitist, just stating facts. As I've said, I don't know any active guitar arrangers on this forum. We get guitar requestees yes, but no guitar arrangers available sadly. Unfortunately if you can't translate piano into guitar, then maybe get someone who can. Not me, I don't know anything about guitar notation. However, if I were that desperate for some piano sheet music, but it was in the form of tabs, I'd gladly take the time to learn it so I can translate any tabs I come across in the future.

first off i dont give a shit about my grammar when im typing in forums so if thats what youre ocding about then maybe you just shouldnt read my posts or if you are dont complain to me because i dont give a fuck

just because you want to take the time to learn new things doesnt necessarily mean other musicians want to or have to youre just trying to dictate what other people should do based off of what youre willing to do you basically called me lazy for not wanting to transcribe piano music to guitar music but the fact is..once again ive tried that and it didnt work out i wouldnt be asking for these things unless i tried to do it and failed otherwise i would do it myself just because someone asks for peer help or assistance doesnt make them lazy and if your philosophy is that its not ok to ask peers for help even if youre struggling dont try to push that mentality on me


You sir are extremely ignorant. No more Mr. nice guy.

no hun i think youre ignorant for not realising the issue at hand and being oblivious to the reality surrounding the situation


Nice generalization you got there. Facts? Troll instigate a flamewar, people flame back, troll then use this as an excuse to make negative generalization towards said forums?

actually you guys are guilty of the same thing the fact that someone even mentioned a stereotype against guitarists reveals generalization amongst pianists not only that but i have the right to express my thoughts about the forums on the forums which is what the forums are for just because YOU or the majority doesn't like the facts im pointing out doesn't make me a troll it makes you the opposition not only that but i dont care if it makes you mad


Asking and demanding are two different things. This is how this flamewar got started. You saw this community lacking guitar arrangements, you then ask why? then you implicitly demanded arrangers to fulfill guitar requestees. Because we lack guitar arrangers, we told you to try translating it to guitar, but no, you refused and demanded others to do it for you.


actually i wasnt demanding i was asking wich just shows you dont know the difference between asking and demanding because demanding has a different context pointing out facts does not count as demanding if i was demanding i would have said "you guys better...." rather than "why is it that...?" and if you guys wanna start shit just because i asked a question as to why the pianists get more aid and attention in terms of sheet music then go talk to somebody else becAUSE i have the right to ask questions second its reasonable to know why a website that says they have sheet music for all sorts of musicians doesnt have sheet music for guitarists if the sheet music is going to be geared towards one instrument such as piano then they need to change the name to piano sheet music often times when websites claim to have sheet music for guitarists as well the website has something formally arranged like a forum for different instruments that way no one feels left out and everyone gets helped third i didnt refuse unless youve been up all night with me attempting to help me transcribe and translate these songs to guitar then i suggest you stfu im advocating for guitarists that have made efforts to help themselves translate and transcribe but have failed and need assistance and have searched for weeks so unless youre willing to help get out of my face because i didnt ask you guys for a list of things to do that ive already done


1. we lack guitar arrangers
2. your so called "understanding" and expectations are way off. Every instruments? Who the freck told you that? If we have the right people for the right job, then we'll get it done. If not, there is no choice but to do it yourself or ask someone else outside this forums.



thats just like someone who doesnt want to take responsibility instead of saying all that whats so hard about just admitting its a website for pianists violinists and people that play flute


Stay up all night huh? So it's just you? What about us? Imagine how hard it is for us to do direct transcribing off of mp3's; not just one song, but plenty of others. Plus it isn't the point of this discussion. For the transcribing part, leave that to us. I don't expect people to be able to do this so you should be thankful we're doing this for free, which is very time consuming. We do it for free because we enjoy it. You get the easy way out because all you have to do is rearrange it for guitar, no transcribing involved, but then again you refused. So what's easier than "easy"? You pressing Staple's "easy" button and hope it'll start churning out guitar sheet music or just you being lazy?

Btw, you don't have to transcribe off of midis. Just open it up in a notation software such as Finale and the answers will be revealed. Then again you're lazy as the answers will be in the form of noteheads (in notation) or bars (in DAW), and the fact it would sometimes have to be rearranged so it's legible. So I guess it's back to square one huh?


yeah youre right it IS just me because nto once out of all you guys that have been bitching about not wanting to help guitarists and making excuses has one person said that theyve stayed up just to help someone for the sake of making a good impression on newbies second its only easy for you because you have experience it was my first time and it was hard as hell translating it because it turned out inaccurate and had to start from the beginning third you ARE acting elitist because of the absence of empathy for newbies just trying to seek out assistance to even learn how to do the things youre talking about once again unless youre going to help stay out of my way criticism is not going to make my numerous attempts to translate piano music successful or help me transcribe anything not only that but as an experienced musician you should be motivated to want to help people that are new to transcribing and if youre that hung up on someone doing it why dont YOU do it since you wanna lecture me about the list of things im not good enough to do bitch


maybe YOU should consider that you're being biased for demanding arrangers to arrange for guitarists when in fact they don't have that skill.

*sarcastic voice* ohh my goood im so biased even though its a sheet music forum for different musicians other than pianists youre just in denial and oblivious to reality there are thousands of people on this website that are quick to throw guitar players under the bus just because they themselves play piano and when a guitar player asks for assists everyone gives the cold shoulder


And please stop banging on about 'peer helping website'. its not.
If someone -wishes- to fulfil a request, ie, are able to do so, and they have the time available, they will.
In fact, i think there has been quite a bit of guitar music transcribed, but just because its not what you want, youre throwing a hissy fit. We do not 'rush to the aid' of piano players; if you were to actually open your eyes and LOOK, you would see that there are thousands of piano requests that go unfulfilled.

If you were so desparate for the music, you would take what you could find, and do it yourself.

hey there to the "genius" that wrote this pile of shit forum websites are a form of peer support website wether you know it or not because everyone is counting on assistance in some way people are counting on someone to give them the link to,provide,transcribe etc. that in and of itself makes it a peer support website not only that but the purpose of this website is requesting sheet music and someone gives you the link hence the sheet music request forum otherwise it would be called the i got it myself forum or this website wouldnt even exist because its soley based off people seeking sheet music discussing music sharing sheet music secrets and as long as theres that spirit of reliance its a peer support websites not only that but thats the purpose of forums in general second um no idiot otherwise i wouldnt be posting this because of the lack of guitar sheet music i have literally never seen anyone else attempt to get guitar sheet music, get guitar sheet music or anything other than me and if you can name at least 200 members who have done so please name them third if no one rushes to the aid of piano players explain why there are usually over 50 replies to a sheet music request by pianists and why all those replies include tips, links, videos etc fourth if i didnt take the time to find it my posts wouldnt say ive searched for the tabs to this song for weeks and the fact is i did but after weeks of searching i didnt find what i wanted and since im picky no i wont settle for whatever just because you love to settle doesnt mean i will and unless youre willing to help me search stfu



I am amazed everyone else spent the effort to read through that stuff... I would not sacrifice my eyes. (Thanks brncao for splitting it up into sentences!)

------below is a very important point, please read------

Anyway, as I have mentioned, Finale actually does staff to tab conversion. As brncao said, midi to score is easy mode in Finale, and in fact it is even easier to then put it into tab (providing you know the basic functions of Finale and already have midi/score).

------the above is a very important point, please read------

The most difficult part of transcribing is getting the notes/rhythm from the original song by listening. So if you already have a midi or a score for other instruments, it is a big help. Then you can relatively easily make it to fit your instrument and play style. Often it is impossible to tailor for everyone: even with piano music or violin music, a piece can be arranged for different difficulty. I usually write something moderately difficult. It is then up to the performer to decide what he plays. And of course there are so many instruments, but the staff notation is generic and simply describes the music, whereas the tab notation is specific for an instrument. (Not to mention the disadvantage of tab in representing rhythm accurately.) As everyone said, it is for your own benefit to learn to read staff. It will open up a lot of possibilities for you to play. Imagine that you don't have to beg people for tab, but can play a lot of music rather than just the one or two you begged for! (Actually as I said earlier you know actually have to learn it if you use Finale. but it is more convenient if you simply can play the notes according to the score.)

Again we were trying to help. We simply want to convey to you that it is unlikely you will find direct help here, but also want to tell you ways that you may achieve your objective.

By the way, I actually know guitarists who read staff notation and they only ask me to write in that.

Edit: I would say similar things if I was asked to write keyboard/piano tab! Thankfully I think I have only been asked once before...
Writing in staff notation can in fact be seen as an attempt to help all instruments rather than be specific!

thanks dude for these tips and not criticizing me but i tried those things and at this point ive kind of given up hope and just need some form of assistance i downloaded an audio converter and converted a mp3 to a wav then a wav to midi then transferred the midi to a tab transcribing program and it failed epichley not only did the midi sound off but the tabs wouldn't come out then i tried translating which seemed fun and easy at first once again epic fail and then i have these asses screaming "do it yourself" when the reality i tried that and im not really high enough in the ranks yet to be good at reading sheet music because it doesn't even have like which chords to play on it so i always go by tab so id appreciate it if people would stop talking shit and being bothered by my not knowing how to read sheet music and just help me or shut up

First off, I really don't want to get involved in this, but I really think you should tone down your language a bit. Swearing will make people want to help you less.

Secondly, this website cannot be called "just a piano sheet site" because there are other music sheets here for other instruments (i.e. alto sax, cello, etc.).

I think that it is very sad that we don't have enough guitar transcribers on here, but what can we do? It's not our fault that there aren't enough. You said you tried once to transcribe for guitar, but failed. I'm sure you've heard the saying "if at first you don't succeed, try again." I'm sure you'd only improve if you tried again. :D Once you got good enough, you could do guitar transcriptions and help the problem of there being not enough.

I don't think it's fair to stereotype all the people on this site as being in denial and telling them "thousands of people on this website that are quick to throw guitar players under the bus" because that's not true. I will tell you myself, I cry on the inside when I see someone requesting a piece of sheet music for piano/violin/flute, because I play clarinet, and there also are not many people that do those transcriptions either. You also shouldn't think that it's you or other guitar players that don't get responses to your threads for sheet music. I have posted many posts and threads requesting sheet music for clarinet that have not been answered at all. But what can I do? I started to transcribe to help other people that play my instrument, which would be something very kind of you to do, or at least try again.

One last thing. I know you said that you don't care, but it is very hard to read your posts without punctuation. I'm sure everyone would feel better if you used it.


Sincerely,
Sango

Err, something else I've noticed overtime is that there's a lot of unspoken confusion as to what a transcription precisely entails.

There are several "types" of transcriptions. The list below is not definitive nor exhaustive, but gives a general picture of some of the functions transcriptions play:

1. Full arrangement transcriptions.

These are extremely difficult and time-consuming to produce because the transcriber must listen to every instrument in the song and write out every single note played. I rarely, rarely see these. One good example is sperion's awesome transcription (http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~pcfc2/main.html) of Mizuki Nana's character song in White Album, Glass no Hana. One might usually produce these transcriptions in order to learn arranging, or just out of...perfectionism (lol)? Note that these kinds of transcriptions are incredibly difficult to produce because the transcriber must also be familiar (at least at a very basic level) with the instruments used. This includes strings, drums, electric guitar, voice, etc.

2. Piano transcription/arrangements.

I'd say that this is the predominant type of transcription on the internet. Animemz (http://animenz.wordpress.com/) is a good example, and there are tons of piano arrangers on youtube. A lot of music requested and posted in these forums falls under this category too. But why this transcription is prevalent is important: people requesting music obviously want to play it, and most of the time and anime song isn't in a form that's readily playable by one piano. Hence it must be arranged for piano. Piano is nice in this regard because one person can play a melody and its accompaniment.

The reason why there are not many of these kind of transcriptions for guitarists has more to do with the composers and arrangers of j-pop/anime songs than us transcribers here on the internet: the majority of songs just aren't written exclusively for guitar. Take the 6th Bleach OP, Alones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uFrMZUuL0k). True, there is a guitar part. But the role of the guitar is minimal. When you say you want a transcription of this song for guitarists, you must be clear if you want a transcription of the part explicitly written for guitar or an arrangement of the song that is within the capabilities of the guitar. This small fact is incredibly important because it means that sheet music in general is never written for a specific instrument. Music notation in the broadest sense is an abstract language that all instruments are capable of playing. You are correct to a small extent that sheet music arranged explicitly for piano is usually unplayable on a guitar (octaves and finger span). However, even attempting to produce an arrangement on guitar that resembles the dual melody/accompaniment nature of piano - which is basic and very easy to get a hold of - is incredibly hard to play on guitar. I can say this after 7 years of playing. Fingerpicking polyphonic music on guitar is a highly, highly developed skill - and it takes this much effort to play very basic songs. So you can already see how there's an inherent bias against guitarists when considering the nature of the songs we like. It's not unfair, it's just the intrinsic limits of the guitar.

3. Lead sheets/harmonic reductions

I favor this kind (these are how my transcriptions look 99% of the time) because all instruments can play them. They aren't biased towards one instrument or another. But I favor lead sheets because they aren't necessarily meant for performance, but for analyzing and learning music theory. This is just my own take - I've written about it in more detail here (http://lelangir.dotq.org/?page_id=2).

I don't think you're partly to blame about the confusion here because a lot of requesting transcriptions operates under unspoken norms - and you're simply going against the grain, but being very ambiguous about what you want. Being very explicit and verbose (as the rules state...) will, at the very least, earn you a modicum of respect amongst transcribers here. With that said, I'm still not sure precisely what you want in regards to the 6th Bleach OP.

I guess there's no point in arguing to a wooden pole. Obviously I tried to be neutral, but his third post really pushed it. When a person generalizes against guitarists (I won't name who), you argue (without resorting to insults) with that person who generalized; I agree, it was wrong for some people to generalize. This is perfectly normal, and I would be fine with that. usually I would stay out of it between you and the others. But to use that to attack the entire forums instead of the person is absolutely wrong!

I could care less about your grammar, but it's very hard to read it. Writing is all about communication. If there are spelling errors, slight grammar errors, but is comprehensible nonetheless then I'm ok with that; I'm not a grammar-nazi. If you write and don't care if people can't read it, then you really are self-centered. If you truly write like this, good luck with your resumes.

This is what you said earlier

then people that make piano sheet music need to translate it to guitar because that isnt the readers job
I was ok when you said not everyone can translate it to guitar. But then you said that above. When you say someone needs to do something, that's demanding.


Right after Gekkeiju's post, you totally lost it and threw a tantrum. You have issues with your interpersonal skills. With a simple discussion like this, I'm capable of sustaining myself without throwing a tantrum. You wanted to know why there aren't that many guitar requests filled right? We answered that for you (well some of us). Ignore posts that don't answer your question and acknowledge posts that do. No one is forcing you to listen to every posts. Once you have your answer, so thanks to the people who answered correctly and move on. Instead you began going off topic just so you can attack and insult certain people who upset your feelings, then onto the entire forums.

I just had to make a separate post, but this is lolftw!

If you want to survive on any forums:

1. when someone argues with you, you do NOT attack the entire forums
2. When you disagree, argue constructively without resorting to insults; When you insult, people will insult back.
3. Make sure your posts is readable to some extent.
4. Once you've gotten your answer, leave and move on!

Read this thread on studio-central forum (it's a great forums for those interested in having a small, med, or big music studio). It's hilarious, but you should read it to see how it turned out :lol:My username is Anime btw.

http://studio-central.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=76109

I've been neutral throughout this whole flamewar as you can see. Should he have brought up point #1, then I would've made my attack. But he didn't, so I didn't.

Oh boy, here I go folks! Get the children out of the room, because this is going to be messy.



well this what i mean by elitist behavior people on this website are selfish simply for the fact that they tend to only assist piano players what i am saying is that if youre going to help piano players and complain about helping guitar players maybe YOU should get out because youre infringing on the equality that comes with being a community and assisting peers not only that but the act of only helping people that play the same instrument as you is biased

We're selfish? Of course we are. After all, there's about 20 transcribers here that are willing to donate countless hours of time so that a random person can go "Oh I want this!" and have it be done. And then there's someone else that says "I want it written from this!" and those same 20 transcribers dedicate more time into making the piece work for the instrument in question.

And THEN there's you, whom is asking for a very particular form of a piece of music, which was very kindly donated by the aforementioned transcribers. The transcribers then state that they are no experts in the subject matter and try to advise you in efforts of maintaining quality and accuracy.

This is not a question about equality and social elitism. This is a question of supply and demand, as many users have stated above this post. We try our best but we are a volunteer service. What does this mean? It means that you, the user, places a request with the understanding that the likelyhood of that request being fulfilled is at the whims of what we can and cannot do. I cannot word it any other way.



and dude stop bragging i can play chords and have played songs by chord before but some of the songs i enjoy playing are played by string on acoustic alones by aqua times is only played by string not only that but im not asking for your opinions on what makes a good guitar player the fact that i choose to play songs by string to stand out is my choice part of playing an instrument is expressing yourself the way you choose so honestly i dont give a shit what you think i play chords only when i want and play string only when i want chord tabs are easy to find wich is why i never mention them or even put emplhesis on them ive played will young by chord and ive played alones by chord but sometimes i like playing by string because its beautiful and its simple its also important to remember out of the millions of people that play guitar not everyone wants to play by chord i know guitarists that kick ass at playing strings and chords just because people dont choose to play by chords doesnt mean they are bad guitar players a guitar player that chooses to only play by string could say the same about you just because you dont make the same choices as them if youre going to complai neverytime someone doesnt do what you see fit prepare for disappointment

I think I misread something, because, if I remember correctly, I addressed the fact that we are an anime and game sheet music transcription site. Meaning that the two items I found you requesting music for is outside the scope of what we provide our services for. These requests are NOT SPONSORED BY OUR SITE. A transcriber has no reason to even acknowledge your request, let alone donate their precious time to undertake it.

And what I (and others) have given was a recommendation to learn how to read music or how to transcribe tabular because we are a volunteer service. What does this mean? It means that you, the user, places a request with the understanding that the likelyhood of that request being fulfilled is at the whims of what we can and cannot do. I cannot word it any other way.



the fact that there is even a stereo type against guitar players reveals the fact that im right about the judgmental and elitist behavior on this website if people want to get mad just because im asking for people to help guitarists as they help piano players then they need to go on facebook and complain because what they are doing is a form of denial and validation of favoritism violin,piano,flute and even clarinet sheet music requests get more responses than guitar sheet music requests if they even answer the request for guitar sheet music it was my understanding that this website was something to support instrumentalists for every instrument not just pianists some people cant transcribe things for themselves some people have tried and failed i stayed up all night trying to transcribe midis into guitar sheet music but when a pianist needs help people are the first to rush to their aid thats unfair its judgmental its biased and a clear act of favoritism rather than denying maybe you guys should consider that youre being biased for demanding that guitarists fend forthemselves but then helping everyone else except guitarists

Yes, we are judgemental. But there isn't a single instrument that doesn't have a stereotype that people slap on them. But these stereotypes mean nothing to a person. The stereotypes only become apparent when a person gives the other party the chance to apply them. No offense to you, but you come off as as immature from the way you type. You place demands without proper justification, making you also an idiot. And you're unwilling to listen to reason, making you lazy. Now what was the stereotype for a guitar player again?


first off i dont give a shit about my grammar when im typing in forums so if thats what youre ocding about then maybe you just shouldnt read my posts or if you are dont complain to me because i dont give a fuck

And now I'm demanding it:

Use proper English in your future posts
If you want people to read what you write, you need to be clear about your ideas. What you've provided above is nothing more than a step into ignorance that will leave you for the wolves when you enter society. If you took the time to write it, take the time to write it right ;)

and

Failure to do so shall result in a temporary restriction of activities, including, but not limited to requesting transcriptions.
It's now zero tolerance for you. There have been three warnings about the way you type. I suggest that you use proper English immediately.


just because you want to take the time to learn new things doesnt necessarily mean other musicians want to or have to youre just trying to dictate what other people should do based off of what youre willing to do you basically called me lazy for not wanting to transcribe piano music to guitar music but the fact is..once again ive tried that and it didnt work out i wouldnt be asking for these things unless i tried to do it and failed otherwise i would do it myself just because someone asks for peer help or assistance doesnt make them lazy and if your philosophy is that its not ok to ask peers for help even if youre struggling dont try to push that mentality on me

Again, read my first response, and you'll better understand where s/he's coming from. Ah hell, I'll say it again: We try our best but we are a volunteer service. What does this mean? It means that you, the user, places a request with the understanding that the likelyhood of that request being fulfilled is at the whims of what we can and cannot do. I cannot word it any other way.


no hun i think youre ignorant for not realising the issue at hand and being oblivious to the reality surrounding the situation

Seriously, did anyone else laugh at this? You clearly have a comprehension issue. Take the time and read what we type. Read it again. Use a translator to assist, because English is obviously not your first language. Ask your friend to interpret what we type into salsalover-ese. Then respond back to us.


actually you guys are guilty of the same thing the fact that someone even mentioned a stereotype against guitarists reveals generalization amongst pianists not only that but i have the right to express my thoughts about the forums on the forums which is what the forums are for just because YOU or the majority doesn't like the facts im pointing out doesn't make me a troll it makes you the opposition not only that but i dont care if it makes you mad

Okay, I'm getting stick of your Elitist gutarist behaviour. Deal with the facts: we have a higher supply of transcribers available for piano as opposed to guitar. We can't fix this? Why? Because we are a volunteer service. What does this mean? It means that you, the user, places a request with the understanding that the likelyhood of that request being fulfilled is at the whims of what we can and cannot do. I cannot word it any other way.


actually i wasnt demanding i was asking wich just shows you dont know the difference between asking and demanding because demanding has a different context pointing out facts does not count as demanding if i was demanding i would have said "you guys better...." rather than "why is it that...?" and if you guys wanna start shit just because i asked a question as to why the pianists get more aid and attention in terms of sheet music then go talk to somebody else becAUSE i have the right to ask questions second its reasonable to know why a website that says they have sheet music for all sorts of musicians doesnt have sheet music for guitarists if the sheet music is going to be geared towards one instrument such as piano then they need to change the name to piano sheet music often times when websites claim to have sheet music for guitarists as well the website has something formally arranged like a forum for different instruments that way no one feels left out and everyone gets helped third i didnt refuse unless youve been up all night with me attempting to help me transcribe and translate these songs to guitar then i suggest you stfu im advocating for guitarists that have made efforts to help themselves translate and transcribe but have failed and need assistance and have searched for weeks so unless youre willing to help get out of my face because i didnt ask you guys for a list of things to do that ive already done

And by your asking, you state a bunch of legal jargon similar to a filibusterer on the last day in Office. Honestly, I found your post offensive, and two other members found it as offensive to the community as well, as I received a report against your actions and alleged claims against our elitist community of piano players and how we're being unequal to guitar players.

It's nice to know that you tried to transcribe once. It's actually fantastic news. The problem is that you're attitude is not in proper alignment. Because of the tone you produced, it sprawled this massive thread of explanation after explanation of why we are saying "Hoo! Yep! You're right! We don't have transcribers for guitar tabs! Here's something that may help you!" I'm almost 99% sure that if you approached this from a different angle, you might have received a more favourable response.



thats just like someone who doesnt want to take responsibility instead of saying all that whats so hard about just admitting its a website for pianists violinists and people that play flute

There is no responsibility here. We try our best but we are a volunteer service. What does this mean? It means that you, the user, places a request with the understanding that the likelyhood of that request being fulfilled is at the whims of what we can and cannot do. I cannot word it any other way.


yeah youre right it IS just me because nto once out of all you guys that have been bitching about not wanting to help guitarists and making excuses has one person said that theyve stayed up just to help someone for the sake of making a good impression on newbies second its only easy for you because you have experience it was my first time and it was hard as hell translating it because it turned out inaccurate and had to start from the beginning third you ARE acting elitist because of the absence of empathy for newbies just trying to seek out assistance to even learn how to do the things youre talking about once again unless youre going to help stay out of my way criticism is not going to make my numerous attempts to translate piano music successful or help me transcribe anything not only that but as an experienced musician you should be motivated to want to help people that are new to transcribing and if youre that hung up on someone doing it why dont YOU do it since you wanna lecture me about the list of things im not good enough to do bitch

My fingers are getting tired now. We're not throwing out the possibility to guitar transcribers. In fact, we'd appreciate one at this point, if not just to keep a particular member happy.

But you have to realized that THERE ARE NONE OF THEM WILLING TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO ASSIST IN TRANSCRIBING MUSIC FOR GUITAR TABS. By willing, I do not mean the transcribers that are here. They have their own fields of expertise and have found their place on our site -- one way or another. What I'm talking about is a transcriber that specializes IN guitar tabs. In my past six years, there have been only two that I can remember that did this. They quickly moved on as well, as there was such a low demand.


*sarcastic voice* ohh my goood im so biased even though its a sheet music forum for different musicians other than pianists youre just in denial and oblivious to reality there are thousands of people on this website that are quick to throw guitar players under the bus just because they themselves play piano and when a guitar player asks for assists everyone gives the cold shoulder

Yes. Because we just love to hurt people. For the sake of my broken record, PLEASE REALIZE THAT WE JUST DON'T HAVE SOMEONE THAT CAN DO THIS!




hey there to the "genius" that wrote this pile of shit forum websites are a form of peer support website wether you know it or not because everyone is counting on assistance in some way people are counting on someone to give them the link to,provide,transcribe etc. that in and of itself makes it a peer support website not only that but the purpose of this website is requesting sheet music and someone gives you the link hence the sheet music request forum otherwise it would be called the i got it myself forum or this website wouldnt even exist because its soley based off people seeking sheet music discussing music sharing sheet music secrets and as long as theres that spirit of reliance its a peer support websites not only that but thats the purpose of forums in general second um no idiot otherwise i wouldnt be posting this because of the lack of guitar sheet music i have literally never seen anyone else attempt to get guitar sheet music, get guitar sheet music or anything other than me and if you can name at least 200 members who have done so please name them third if no one rushes to the aid of piano players explain why there are usually over 50 replies to a sheet music request by pianists and why all those replies include tips, links, videos etc fourth if i didnt take the time to find it my posts wouldnt say ive searched for the tabs to this song for weeks and the fact is i did but after weeks of searching i didnt find what i wanted and since im picky no i wont settle for whatever just because you love to settle doesnt mean i will and unless youre willing to help me search stfu

I'll forward your opinion to Gand. Thank you.
Hopefully he won't k-line you



thanks dude for these tips and not criticizing me but i tried those things and at this point ive kind of given up hope and just need some form of assistance i downloaded an audio converter and converted a mp3 to a wav then a wav to midi then transferred the midi to a tab transcribing program and it failed epichley not only did the midi sound off but the tabs wouldn't come out then i tried translating which seemed fun and easy at first once again epic fail and then i have these asses screaming "do it yourself" when the reality i tried that and im not really high enough in the ranks yet to be good at reading sheet music because it doesn't even have like which chords to play on it so i always go by tab so id appreciate it if people would stop talking shit and being bothered by my not knowing how to read sheet music and just help me or shut up

See, herein lies why we're not providing the tabs. First off, your request are not anime/game requests. Therefore, our transcribers do not have to fulfill your request. Second, these transcribers would simply be doing the same activity you've done: software generated tabs. I'm quite certain you do not want that, and you've experienced the result of its generation yourself.





EDIT:
Oh, and another part that I'm loving at this point is that I found tabs for both of the requested songs in under 10 seconds doing a quick google search using the song title and guitar tabs as the query. Come on! I mean!!! HERE (http://tinyurl.com/3xpsloj)-and-HERE (http://tinyurl.com/3x4smbk)!

*pop*

youre a mod so ill be nice (pft yeah right)


We're selfish? Of course we are. After all, there's about 20 transcribers here that are willing to donate countless hours of time so that a random person can go "Oh I want this!" and have it be done. And then there's someone else that says "I want it written from this!" and those same 20 transcribers dedicate more time into making the piece work for the instrument in question.

And THEN there's you, whom is asking for a very particular form of a piece of music, which was very kindly donated by the aforementioned transcribers. The transcribers then state that they are no experts in the subject matter and try to advise you in efforts of maintaining quality and accuracy.

This is not a question about equality and social elitism. This is a question of supply and demand, as many users have stated above this post. We try our best but we are a volunteer service. What does this mean? It means that you, the user, places a request with the understanding that the likelyhood of that request being fulfilled is at the whims of what we can and cannot do. I cannot word it any other way.

that maybe the case, However the fact that thousands of piano sheet music requests get answered and no guitar sheet music requests are answered cannot be ignored and if guitar sheet music requests were actually answered we wouldnt even be having this discussion the majority of posts on this website are for violin,piano,flute,clarinet and anything else you can think of except guitar and every time a guitar sheet music request is made it goes ignored and if what you're saying is true why is it that i have yet to receive any finding my tabs or anyone even willing to transcribe it if you guys are not able to assist guitarists then it needs to be stated in the website description rather than getting people's hopes up


Yes, we are judgemental. But there isn't a single instrument that doesn't have a stereotype that people slap on them. But these stereotypes mean nothing to a person. The stereotypes only become apparent when a person gives the other party the chance to apply them. No offense to you, but you come off as as immature from the way you type. You place demands without proper justification, making you also an idiot. And you're unwilling to listen to reason, making you lazy. Now what was the stereotype for a guitar player again?

“It is just as cowardly to judge an absent person as it is wicked to strike a defenseless one. Only the ignorant and narrow-minded gossip, for they speak of persons instead of things.” when you make up stereo-types like that youre actually the idiot because you are condemning yourself to a certain mentality and expressing an opinion as fact and honestly i can type any way i want to youre not my mother and youre not my father so dont try to tell me how to type you have absolutely no jurisdiction over how i choose to express myself then you said im an idiot only idiots lower themselves to stereotypes and discriminate against people based on the instrument they play to sacrafice another persons self esteem to make themselves look superior and thats the exact social elitist behavior that i sensed before only idiots deny reality and the reality is that you discriminatory for judging someone based upon the instrument that they choose to express themselves through i could say the same about you and whatever instrument you play ive seen lazy idiots play clarinet trombone saxophone you name it how ever close minded you are is how limited your knowledge is so i wouldn't go around calling people stupid as long as you choose to be judgmental then you said im lazy but judging from the fact that you didn't read the part where i made an effort to transcribe and translate for myself youre even lazier then you said im not willing to listen to reason yeah youre right because there isn't a valid excuse for elitist,idiotic,judgmental behavior and there's surely so excuse for people that choose to discriminate against someone just because they dont play the same instrument as you of all the sick things i have heard people discriminate because of this is the most asinine of them all i choose to play guitar because its a beautiful instrument and its how i choose to tell people how i feel if all moderators act like you then this website is for losers,elitists, and people that are ok with stereo-types and you dont deserve to be a moderator because i dont care how much you brag about transcribing for people as long as you discriminate youll never get my respect and anyone who gives you respect is equally as corrupt just because im not willing to change my opinion doesnt mean im lazy ive said it once ill say it again im the opposition and im against the majority



I think I misread something, because, if I remember correctly, I addressed the fact that we are an anime and game sheet music transcription site. Meaning that the two items I found you requesting music for is outside the scope of what we provide our services for. These requests are NOT SPONSORED BY OUR SITE. A transcriber has no reason to even acknowledge your request, let alone donate their precious time to undertake it.


first off "genius" the alones song is the theme song for bleach THE anime THEREFORE IT FITS WITHIN THE GUIDELINES since the guidelines are anime sheet music and if its because i requestsed tab get over plenty of peolpe on this site request tabs and get answers

(since you choose to be discriminatory i dont give a shit im gunna be a bitch now)


And now I'm demanding it:

Use proper English in your future posts
If you want people to read what you write, you need to be clear about your ideas. What you've provided above is nothing more than a step into ignorance that will leave you for the wolves when you enter society. If you took the time to write it, take the time to write it right

and

Failure to do so shall result in a temporary restriction of activities, including, but not limited to requesting transcriptions.
It's now zero tolerance for you. There have been three warnings about the way you type. I suggest that you use proper English immediately.

people who limit themselves to being ocd about proper english will be disappointed because unless youre actually peering over my shoulder or in control of my hands im not obligated because it isnt an official rule if you choose to be focused on my grammar rather than what im saying YOU need to take responsibility for that rather than blaming a stranger to ban someone solely based on your opinion in and of itself is biased and should not be tolerated simply for the fact that youre cutting off people that need assistance and youre guilty of exactly what youre blaming me for getting angry because people dont meet your demands not only that but youre using your authority to ban them? and im the crazy one? really? well i guess stupid is a s stupid does second i dont give a fuck anymore go on ban me since everyone wants to discriminate against guitarists and make stereotypes youve proven that this website is not peer friendly,beneficial to guitarists in need of assistance youve also managed to turn me off from fellow musicians third just because i dont give a shit about how i write in forums does'nt determine how i write in an essay or job application etc. ive actually gotten excellent remarks when it comes to my essay writing so maybe you shouldnt be quick to assume that people who YOU DONT EVEN KNOW will be failures bitch btw that enough typos for you? enjoy enjoy mutherfucker :-)



Seriously, did anyone else laugh at this? You clearly have a comprehension issue. Take the time and read what we type. Read it again. Use a translator to assist, because English is obviously not your first language. Ask your friend to interpret what we type into salsalover-ese. Then respond back to us.

no but im laughing at the fact that you think i give a shit another thing how do you expect people to even meet your standards about that pile of shit new rule you made up wich by the way will never be an official rule are you gunna grade people on their posts and if they dont pass youre gunna ban them? no one cares about you or your ocd when it comes to typos



My fingers are getting tired now. We're not throwing out the possibility to guitar transcribers. In fact, we'd appreciate one at this point, if not just to keep a particular member happy.

But you have to realized that THERE ARE NONE OF THEM WILLING TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO ASSIST IN TRANSCRIBING MUSIC FOR GUITAR TABS. By willing, I do not mean the transcribers that are here. They have their own fields of expertise and have found their place on our site -- one way or another. What I'm talking about is a transcriber that specializes IN guitar tabs. In my past six years, there have been only two that I can remember that did this. They quickly moved on as well, as there was such a low demand.

it deosnt matter because no matter how low a demand is it doesnt mean the demand should be isolated or neglected and if thats truly the case then you need to be honest in the website description and just say its for everyother instrument but guitar


And by your asking, you state a bunch of legal jargon similar to a filibusterer on the last day in Office. Honestly, I found your post offensive, and two other members found it as offensive to the community as well, as I received a report against your actions and alleged claims against our elitist community of piano players and how we're being unequal to guitar players.

It's nice to know that you tried to transcribe once. It's actually fantastic news. The problem is that you're attitude is not in proper alignment. Because of the tone you produced, it sprawled this massive thread of explanation after explanation of why we are saying "Hoo! Yep! You're right! We don't have transcribers for guitar tabs! Here's something that may help you!" I'm almost 99% sure that if you approached this from a different angle, you might have received a more favourable response.

first off because of the fact that you actually admitted to being in favor of elitist behavior you fit the the description of all my accusations second stfu i dont wanna hear how you were offended with the way you talk you offend people daily if youre going to attempt to hurt other people's feelings prepare to get hurt the fact that theres even a stereo type against guitarists or any instrumentalist in general proves that im right elitists are the first to make stereotypes because of their superiority complex and last at this point i dont give a fuck about what anyone thinks about my attitude because everyone here is worse for being discriminatory not only that but *sarcastic voice* "oh yes! youre soooo superior it takes a real superior person to complain and bitch about my typing" the only reason youre complaining about the arguments i made earlier is because you dont have a reply for them *sarcastic voice* "and it takes a real superior person to discriminate against their peers for their choice of instrument and waste their life on a website for 6 years" not only that but thanks for proving my point about how judgmental idiots fail at running a website because your website is an EPIC FAIL


Yes. Because we just love to hurt people. For the sake of my broken record, PLEASE REALIZE THAT WE JUST DON'T HAVE SOMEONE THAT CAN DO THIS!


then you need to mention that in your website description genius rather than having guitarists waste their lives on such a sad excuse for a forum


See, herein lies why we're not providing the tabs. First off, your request are not anime/game requests. Therefore, our transcribers do not have to fulfill your request. Second, these transcribers would simply be doing the same activity you've done: software generated tabs. I'm quite certain you do not want that, and you've experienced the result of its generation yourself.

alones by aqua times is the 6th opening theme for bleach wich IS an anime genius look it up therefore yeah they do have to second it depends on the software when someone doesnt have access to the best software and is not a professional they are at a disadvantage


Oh, and another part that I'm loving at this point is that I found tabs for both of the requested songs in under 10 seconds doing a quick google search using the song title and guitar tabs as the query. Come on! I mean!!! HERE-and-HERE!


hey "genius thats what i meant when i said THE TABS I FOUND WERE IN ACCURATE,INCOMPLETE AND NOT WHAT I WANTED but maybe you were too focused on my grammar to do the smart thing and pay any attention to what i was actually talking about or maybe you randomly commented without actually reading my posts


1. when someone argues with you, you do NOT attack the entire forums
2. When you disagree, argue constructively without resorting to insults; When you insult, people will insult back.
3. Make sure your posts is readable to some extent.
4. Once you've gotten your answer, leave and move on!

1.no because the entire forums seem to have stereotypes aginst guitarists if they want a fight ill give them a war
2.no you have the guy who made the chord comments to thank for that and you have yourself to thank for suggesting i turn to piano sheet music i shouldnt have to because i dont play piano and i told you before i tried it and failed
3. nahhhhhh forum time is free time to type as i please
4.nope! :D if people wanna be vicious ill be vicious right back


I was ok when you said not everyone can translate it to guitar. But then you said that above. When you say someone needs to do something, that's demanding.


Right after Gekkeiju's post, you totally lost it and threw a tantrum. You have issues with your interpersonal skills. With a simple discussion like this, I'm capable of sustaining myself without throwing a tantrum. You wanted to know why there aren't that many guitar requests filled right? We answered that for you (well some of us). Ignore posts that don't answer your question and acknowledge posts that do. No one is forcing you to listen to every posts. Once you have your answer, so thanks to the people who answered correctly and move on. Instead you began going off topic just so you can attack and insult certain people who upset your feelings, then onto the entire forums.


it depends o nthe tone you think i have believe it or not im perfectly calm but i generally curse like a sailor so i dont give a fuck and the problem is no one answered everyone just made stereotypes

Alrighty guys we can stop right here. This is all I needed to hear as it's apparent he can't even comprehend any of our posts. He's just using the same argument over and over but said in a different way. No point in going any further.


Salsalover I will tell you this. With that attitude... I don't think anyone is going to get along with you no matter what forums you go to. Try it. Go register at another forums. I bet you someone is going to say something about your punctuation marks. Are you going to retaliate against everyone? :rolleyes:

Here http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum
Try that. It's the most active guitar forums on the internet. All the others are totally inactive. I'm a member there as I've always wanted to learn how to play the electric guitar and eventually tabs, but I haven't had the time to audition because of lack of time due to school. This is your last chance as your reputation here on Ichigos is utterly destroyed.

Create a thread requesting your favorite tabs, and don't make people tell you to use the search button or google. Knowing you, if you so much get flamed even once by someone, I suggest you keep your cool. That forum is your last life support for requesting tabs. If you so much retaliate and brutally attack the forums, they're going to ban you. And don't think about reregistering because they'll know it's you. You then have no place to go for your tabs but yourself, services that charge fees for transcriptions/arrangements, or someone you know who can do it.

This post is to offer you some advice. You can argue or disagree with this post if you want, but I only offer you nothing but the truth. It's up to you. You decide your fate.

I have been saying about staff to tab, but now I realise you don't even have the staff (piano score) to begin with, since you were using an mp3 to midi converter. I absolutely understand that these programs rarely work. But now the problem is not simply not having guitar music, but even a good midi or score for the songs you want.

I have in the past got zero response to my piano request from a piano solo piece, and rejection when i asked a specific piano transcriber. It is of course not always possible to find people with the right ability and time. I have been transcribing due to selfishness mainly, to satisfy my own wants. However, I am still unable to make that piano piece i wanted. But I am still trying! (By the way, a lot of time I make the violin play the guitar solo parts, simply because I lack knowledge of the guitar.)

Anyway, as mentioned by Lelangir, it is perhaps of your interest to specify what part or arrangement you want. If it is simply the melody you want to play, it can usually be converted easily from the top staff of a piano score, or any solo instrument score. However, if it is the guitar parts you want, then I can only suggest, for ALONES:

Guitar + sing:
http://www.print-gakufu.com/score/detail/51173/

Band score:
http://www.at-elise.com/JP/JPDPFA01791.html

However, these are Japanese online stores, so you will need to be able to buy (in Japanese everything) to get more than the free samples with occluded parts. You may find the free samples to be useful enough to give a starting point for making your own arrangement. (The occluded parts are less of a problem if you combine the two incomplete sources!) Of course it may be easier to get someone to buy them for you... (these websites are usually of acceptable quality, but for piano they tend to over-simplify the music. not sure about guitar.)


Edit: perhaps I should mention something about the language/type/style again, after the previous attempts of mine and of fellow members. You can of course write whatever you want, but if you want people to respond properly, it is of your own interest to make it understandable to others!


Lelangir: Glass no hana is trying to simulate a full transcription - but it was reduced to piano, violin, voice. There are better examples for full transcription on my website XD ... perfectionism (lol).


Edit 2: Just realised my very off-topic posts. Apologies for being off topic by trying to help. The answer to the topic was answered several times so I won't be repeating it. One thing to add is that, if there is no response to a request, it usually means people are unable to help. (People tend to not say anything if they can't help, rather than explicitly saying "no" unless asked personally. Well, I thought that was generally accepted anyway, and in fact this thread itself seem a bit redundant...)

^or maybe it was the Kimikiss ED? At any rate, doing more than just melody and non-verbatim accompaniment is very, very tedious.

^ hehe, the Kimikiss one is nearly (but strings reduced to 1 violin only). Anyway, tedious enough, i suppose ^_^;

I'll admit my mistake: Alones by Aqua Times actually is an anime piece. Since you coupled it tightly to Will Young I assumed that they were an American band. Regardless of this fact, though, everything else still holds true about Will Young.


Oh yeah, your actions have been restricted due to your inability to write proper English after being warned.

In addition, due to you inciting flame wars, unfounded accusations, proactive destruction of community (http://forums.ichigos.com/showthread.php?p=450186), and overall bad behavior has led me to deny you access to this forum in entirety. I hope that one day you'll be mature enough to understand your wrongdoings (even if it takes a decade)