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Xion_
October 19th, 2010, 02:56 pm
the only sheets that are easy to find are the piano ones, not to mention the majority here plays piano. It's really overplayed :\

HanTony
October 19th, 2010, 03:38 pm
It's hard to translate it over to other instruments then? Piano is more beginner friendly as you can press single keys even as a baby and the sounds wont be too bad/annoying or even broken.

Gotank
October 19th, 2010, 05:45 pm
The problem with other instruments is that they sound better with accompaniment, but anime fans are usually solitary creatures. Piano is frequently played solo, and has been one of the most popular instruments regardless, so people tend to arrange/transcribe for those.

Xion_
October 19th, 2010, 06:02 pm
The problem with other instruments is that they sound better with accompaniment, but anime fans are usually solitary creatures. Piano is frequently played solo, and has been one of the most popular instruments regardless, so people tend to arrange/transcribe for those.

that's... intresting...

Xion_
October 19th, 2010, 06:04 pm
It's hard to translate it over to other instruments then? Piano is more beginner friendly as you can press single keys even as a baby and the sounds wont be too bad/annoying or even broken.

Indeed! Playing violin takes alot of time and a soundproof room!

Milchh
October 19th, 2010, 06:09 pm
Uhm... the people who request sheets/transcriptions generally ask it to be for the piano. This has to be the most pointless thread ever made.

If you want to have a piece of music (a "sheet") transcribed on a different instrument, how about you request it? People don't just transcribe things for every instrument in their spare time. In fact, why don't you, yourself, transcribe sheets for underplayed instruments like the didgeridoo?

Xion_
October 19th, 2010, 06:27 pm
Uhm... the people who request sheets/transcriptions generally ask it to be for the piano. This has to be the most pointless thread ever made.

If you want to have a piece of music (a "sheet") transcribed on a different instrument, how about you request it? People don't just transcribe things for every instrument in their spare time. In fact, why don't you, yourself, transcribe sheets for underplayed instruments like the didgeridoo?
Ah but I have! Probably requested Hope's theme 10 times, it's originally a guitar song, but i only find piano pieces, a bit unlogical no?

Nyu001
October 19th, 2010, 07:28 pm
Your best choice is to try and transcribe it yourself, Xion. Having at least the piano sheet music will give you an advantage to work in a transcription for guitar. Seeing that you have requested it a lot. Better do it yourself than waiting and waiting until someone care to do it.

Milchh
October 19th, 2010, 09:15 pm
^Yes

Have you requested it FOR Guitar?

Because you obviously haven't. You aren't going to order a steak and then get a McDonald's Big Mac. Just doesn't work like that.

Gekkeiju
October 19th, 2010, 10:35 pm
Lol, salsalover anyone?

Nyu001
October 19th, 2010, 10:37 pm
*Gives some food to the kitty* ^.^

Lelangir
October 19th, 2010, 10:56 pm
Lol, salsalover anyone?

hahahahahah

cryskolt_19
October 19th, 2010, 11:50 pm
It's not feasible for any organization to host several instrumental versions of the sheet music for the same song...

It's like expecting an anime to be dubbed into 20+ different languages altogether. Not only will the anime company have to pay more for the voice acting, they will realize that they are doing too much work for a small group of people who insist in the anime being dubbed in their mother tongue.

The piano is the main form of sheet music here, not because it's overplayed, but because its sheet music is universal, be it for any instrument. It's as easy as pie to obtain the melody and chords from the piano's sheet music for use in any instrument. Hope this helps Xion. :)

mangaluva
October 20th, 2010, 12:06 am
i couldn't have said it better -_-

Lelangir
October 20th, 2010, 12:24 am
It's not feasible for any organization to host several instrumental versions of the sheet music for the same song...

It's like expecting an anime to be dubbed into 20+ different languages altogether. Not only will the anime company have to pay more for the voice acting, they will realize that they are doing too much work for a small group of people who insist in the anime being dubbed in their mother tongue.

The piano is the main form of sheet music here, not because it's overplayed, but because its sheet music is universal, be it for any instrument. It's as easy as pie to obtain the melody and chords from the piano's sheet music for use in any instrument. Hope this helps Xion. :)

Yes...and technologically it probably is possible to convert two handed piano parts into guitar tab. I mean, there was that whole sticky devoted to explaining that many instruments are in concert C and thus have (basically) interchangeable notation.

brncao
October 20th, 2010, 03:30 am
Lol, salsalover anyone?
lmao! I hope he/she doesn't stoop to her level :lol:

@OP: Do you play the acoustic or electric guitar? I'll be buying an electric guitar and amp when I have the money, and I'll begin arranging for tabs. However, I don't know if electric guitar sheet music is the same as acoustic?

Lelangir
October 20th, 2010, 04:45 am
lmao! I hope he/she doesn't stoop to her level :lol:

@OP: Do you play the acoustic or electric guitar? I'll be buying an electric guitar and amp when I have the money, and I'll begin arranging for tabs. However, I don't know if electric guitar sheet music is the same as acoustic?

For all intents and purposes in terms of sheet music, acoustic guitar is the same as electric. Unless you're notating crazy whammy bar stuff, or complex effects chains (stuff that's specific to electric guitar), then you don't really need it. You could buy a cheeaaapp piece of plywood off craigslist for <50 USD if you looked. IMO you don't need an amp if you just want to make tabs.

Xion_
October 20th, 2010, 12:22 pm
It's not feasible for any organization to host several instrumental versions of the sheet music for the same song...

It's like expecting an anime to be dubbed into 20+ different languages altogether. Not only will the anime company have to pay more for the voice acting, they will realize that they are doing too much work for a small group of people who insist in the anime being dubbed in their mother tongue.

The piano is the main form of sheet music here, not because it's overplayed, but because its sheet music is universal, be it for any instrument. It's as easy as pie to obtain the melody and chords from the piano's sheet music for use in any instrument. Hope this helps Xion. :)

meh you're right, but isn't it harder to transcribe into piano because of the two keys? Sol-key and Fa ?

Mushyrulez
October 21st, 2010, 04:32 am
From where?

Thing about piano is that its range is the largest of all common instruments, and can achieve polyphony by itself. Technically, the same could happen with guitar...


Anywho, try to arrange it by yourself? If you can read the notes, take a piano sheet and find out where the melody is; play just that melody, and add chords later?

WurdBendur
October 23rd, 2010, 09:30 am
For all this talk about how impractical it is to transcribe music for lots of different instruments, you'd think someone wanted something really strange.

Nope. Xion wanted guitar music for a song that was originally played on the guitar.


Yes...and technologically it probably is possible to convert two handed piano parts into guitar tab. I mean, there was that whole sticky devoted to explaining that many instruments are in concert C and thus have (basically) interchangeable notation.

The guitar is not in concert C, so its notation is not interchangeable. It's easy to transcribe though because it transposes at the octave, which is to say that guitar music is written an octave above what is played.



For all intents and purposes in terms of sheet music, acoustic guitar is the same as electric. Unless you're notating crazy whammy bar stuff, or complex effects chains (stuff that's specific to electric guitar), then you don't really need it. You could buy a cheeaaapp piece of plywood off craigslist for <50 USD if you looked. IMO you don't need an amp if you just want to make tabs.

Indeed, the main difference is repertoire and playing technique. Either can play music written for the other with the exception of certain techniques specific to electric.
As far as buying a cheap guitar, you can walk into Walmart right now and carry one out for $60. I bought one on clearance for $40 to be the one I don't care to get beat up when I'm traveling. Just don't buy their electrics. Other stores may have even cheaper ones. There's a store in my town that has quite decent classical guitars for $20. All of these will do just fine for playing classical music or heavy metal (to a point).

Milchh
October 23rd, 2010, 05:02 pm
Sir, when I said impractical to transcribe for a bunch of instruments, it is because most of the time people want transcriptions for the piano. So why go through the trouble for writing a bunch of arrangements for other instruments? Just because one person who stumbles upon it wants it for trumpet? Geez. Big deal.

And if you cannot arrange something from piano to guitar...then wow, just wow.

WurdBendur
October 24th, 2010, 09:06 am
Way to miss the point entirely.

Solaphar
October 24th, 2010, 01:39 pm
Way to miss the point entirely.
Just so we're clear, what was the point again? (Sorry, I have trouble following along sometimes)

Sango_Uchiha
October 24th, 2010, 02:00 pm
...I think his point was that since Xion wanted something for guitar that was played on a guitar, it would not be difficult for someone to arrange for him?

Solaphar
October 26th, 2010, 04:06 am
Oh, okay. I wasn't quite sure of the main point. Thanks for clearing that up.


Xion_: To repeat what Nyu said, better to just fill in the void yourself and learn to transcribe, rather than wait an indefinite amount of time for someone willing to fulfill your request. Who knows, maybe your transcriptions will help other guitarists who come around here in the future.

Sango_Uchiha
October 26th, 2010, 07:43 pm
^^I second that. That's the whole reason I started transcribing. Because just like you, I couldn't find anything for my instrument (clarinet) even if it happened to be played on it.

drxlight
October 27th, 2010, 08:36 am
oh damn some of this is just pure bitching haha. transcribing isnt just BAM and its done it takes time to learn and its hard to do. saying that some people dont have much time of their hands to learn it.

haha this is just a bad thread for bitching.
and i can understand it would suck that a song played on gutiar is only transcribe onto piano. haha like wtf.

Milchh
October 27th, 2010, 07:32 pm
I just find it funny that the author of the thread really should have just not posted this thread. It's extremely illogical and if it was so important to say, then he should have directed it towards the admins or in the transcribing thread. Simply saying that the majority of transcriptions are for the piano makes the piano "overplayed" is really...as mentioned, illogical.