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Kazeki
December 24th, 2010, 01:42 pm
Hi guys, Kazeki here////

I need help on piano since i'm a noob. I want to learn new instrument as fast as i can.....

I know many poeple play piano so this post is intented for people who wish to take up piano as a new instrument......

Those who know , please help us///// Im dying to learn one!!!!

HanTony
December 24th, 2010, 05:26 pm
You will need one piano. A piano stool to sit on would also be advised.
Then either a real life teacher or some cheap books for beginner piano lessons.
How else can the ichigo community be of assistance?

Thorn
December 25th, 2010, 12:17 am
I taught myself piano. My advice would be learn to read music (if you can't already) and then just pick up anything you like and play through it even if it goes really badly. You will begin to pick up your own way of playing and your sight reading will gradually improve and then you can go to a teacher to iron out the bad habits you picked up through teaching yourself. That's what I did anyway- took me 3/4 years before I decided I was at the stage to approach a teacher (didn't want to go through all the basic beginner let's sit and play twinkle twinkle crap).

mangaluva
December 25th, 2010, 04:11 am
yeah, I would say theory is pretty important. And basic techniques. Practice scales, chords, arpeggios etc.

HopelessComposer
December 25th, 2010, 07:15 am
I taught myself piano. My advice would be learn to read music (if you can't already) and then just pick up anything you like and play through it even if it goes really badly. You will begin to pick up your own way of playing and your sight reading will gradually improve and then you can go to a teacher to iron out the bad habits you picked up through teaching yourself. That's what I did anyway- took me 3/4 years before I decided I was at the stage to approach a teacher (didn't want to go through all the basic beginner let's sit and play twinkle twinkle crap).

Why would you want to waste your time teaching yourself how to play badly, and then later on go to a teacher to fix all the bad stuff you taught yourself? If anything, I'd say it's better off to start with a teacher to get your basics down, and then leave when you feel you can teach yourself. Isn't that how almost everything works? Start off with help, finish up with practice? Doing it the way you mentioned seems unnecessarily slow/painful. You have to play easy songs at first, with or without a teacher, so why would you want to go without one, considering working with a (good) teacher leads to faster improvement (thus, less time playing easy songs)?

And Kazeki, I have some good news and some bad news for you:
The bad news is that there's no magical secret to learning piano. Like Han said, you just need to practice (preferably with someone better than you guiding you).
The good news is that there's no magical secret to learning piano. Lika Han said, you just need to practice (preferably with someone better than you guiding you).
Good luck, even though you won't be needing it. I just hope your elbow-grease-ducts are ready to squirt disgusting, beautiful juice everywhere.

Solaphar
December 27th, 2010, 05:23 am
I'll echo what the others have said.

An instructor can help prevent the development of bad habits/posture. Teaching oneself can result in a lot of wasted time. You might think you're doing something correctly, only to later find out that the technique(s) you've been using has been impeding your progress and perhaps even physically harming you.

Kazeki, you would do well to practice, but even more than that, you'd do well to have a teacher for at least a dozen lessons. Make sure you find a teacher who will show you how to figure out fingering on your own, how to hold your hands on the keys, and posture. You basically want someone who will teach you to play in the most efficient way possible and in the way least likely to harm you in the long run. Don't find someone who just teaches you music theory, like chords and scales, and basic songs, because while those are important, it's even more important to have the hand positioning and movement down so that you won't run into trouble later on as you play faster and more difficult pieces.

And of course, don't forget to practice what you're taught. =)


These are my opinions, at least.

drxlight
December 29th, 2010, 09:59 am
jajajajaj maybe he cant afford a teacher. mate i taught myself and i can play fine. u say u have mates that already play the piano. thats enough to get u started. ask them how to read music sheets ( its really easy). i started out on a really crappy keyboard because i couldn't afford anything great. didnt even have all the keys but it didnt matter cuz when your first starting out u dont really need the whole range of the piano. so with the hand postions and fingering u dont really need a teacher to teach you. i just asked my mates how can i figure out a good way to keep my fingers in the kinda correct way and they said to me just learn the basic scales. like c,f,g, etc. and from that u pretty much get your fingering down.

haha hopeless composer bullshit a teacher leads to faster improvment. its all about how much u wanan pratice. i did 2 lesson with a teacher than called it quits cuz he wasn't giving me songs that i wanted to learn. and if u dont like the song your learning u wont be motivated to learn it.

Zero
December 29th, 2010, 09:33 pm
Three things you want to focus on:

Fundamentals. Scales, chords, arpeggios, exercises - the building blocks that form the basis of your playing. You can learn these easily from books and videos.

Technique. Tips and pointers on how you play the keys itself - what to do and what not to do, what's a good way to play and what's not a good way to play. You'll want to get guidance from experienced pianists for this one. It's like martial arts, you'll need actual real-time guidance.

Most piano teachers stop at those two, but there's one more...

Playing by ear, Improvisation, and Composition. Playing songs you've heard by ear without the sheet music, arranging songs you already know and playing them in a different way than the sheet music, and writing your own music. This practise gives you three things:
Ear training - a pianist can play Chopin and Rachmaninoff all their lives and still not have good ears for music if all they're doing is reciting what other composers have written
Aesthetics - when you play by ear, you learn what sounds good, what sounds bad, what qualities make a passage work, and what qualities don't make a passage work
Creativity - rather than simply reciting music that other people wrote which most pianists end up doing, you'll be able to write your own music, improvise on the spot and have your own style of playing

This third practise, you can do on your own at any skill level. Just play with it and have fun!