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Equisix
February 23rd, 2011, 01:44 am
Are you using a free tool to compose/arrange/transcribe music?
Do you want a realistic sounding audio file of the piece without paying for tools or real players?
Send to me a .mus or .mid and I'll send u a mp3 or wav recording. :)

brncao
March 4th, 2011, 05:49 am
Sorry for being a little skeptical, but what are your methods for achieving this? I hope you're not using Finale for this; DAW is more appropriate for this application. I also hope you're not simply replacing the channels or tracks with GPO and then calling it a day. I tried this once and it didn't sound too good. To improve it, all of this had to be done inside a DAW because a DAW provides more control and flexibility over your music. I had to change the note velocities and make other adjustments to the arrangement (extremely time-consuming). Then there's the mastering part:frusty: Be aware that some people might unknowingly play a note that's outside the instruments' pitch range. GPO plays only within the instruments' range.

Equisix
March 5th, 2011, 12:58 am
Nope i got the full GPO 4

Solaphar
March 5th, 2011, 03:47 am
I want to re-emphasize some of the things brncao is saying:

I don't know whether Finale would work or not (since I haven't used it), but I do know that a DAW would probably work better, though again, having not seen what mixing options Finale can adjust, I don't really know. Anyway, if I were you, I'd at least balance the instruments, volume-wise in relation to each other, and if necessary, make sure the panning remains correct too, across all instruments. And as pointed out, checking that all the notes fall within the correct ranges as well. That's the bare minimum that you have to do really, to make sure nothing is lost in translating it from the midi. As for the velocity-tweaking, personally, I don't think I'd take the time to do that, as that can take hours to get everything right, even on just a single song/tune. However, if you do skip this step, it won't sound fully human or realistic. So it's a trade-off.

In any case, brncao's right... There's more to it than just running the midi through the samples and calling it done. Gotta range-check and balance, at the very least, to make sure stuff isn't missing, or louder/softer, or in the wrong place, when compared to the midi.


Nope i got the full GPO 4
Not sure what you mean by the "full" GPO 4. Just a wild guess, but does that mean you don't have to worry about ranges?

Equisix
March 5th, 2011, 04:13 am
It means I have the full Garritan Library and not just The Garritan Instruments for finale

Lelangir
March 5th, 2011, 04:17 am
I've been thinking about resource sharing, and ultimately the composer has to sacrifice what amounts to the entire arrangement/orchestration of his/her piece.

However, I don't see it as an entirely bad thing, especially for fresh composers with less experience. Established composers might not bother, but if someone who does have a knack for humanization, orchestration (and engineering I suppose) turns out also to be very generous then I don't see what the harm is.

HopelessComposer
March 5th, 2011, 04:37 am
Edit: In short, it's stupid to complain about free favors, or to apply "bare minimums" to them.
Master everybody's songs yourselves if Equsix's efforts offend you.
Or keep quiet, and go away.

Telling people how to go about doing favors isn't just silly; it's insulting.

Equisix
March 5th, 2011, 04:58 am
Eh
I m not xactly a master at using GPO yet
Just got it :P
BUt im sure i can make something sound better than a standard midi

Solaphar
March 5th, 2011, 05:28 am
Edit: In short, it's stupid to complain about free favors, or to apply "bare minimums" to them.
Master everybody's songs yourselves if Equsix's efforts offend you.
Or keep quiet, and go away.

Telling people how to go about doing favors isn't just silly; it's insulting.
Well that's your opinion. Basically, you're being hypocritical in saying people should shut up and not share their opinion, even while you share yours, and you do it in an insulting way. It makes it a bit hard to take you seriously. It's definitely possible to disagree with someone else's opinion without calling them stupid or telling them to keep quiet, and I think you should try it.

Personally, I haven't seen anyone complaining, but if that's how you want to interpret it, I suppose no one can stop you.

Equisix
March 5th, 2011, 05:31 am
Non one likes to be criticized by I tolerate well based arguments backed up with facts

Solaphar
March 5th, 2011, 05:36 am
BUt im sure i can make something sound better than a standard midi
Yep, I understand that, and I think it's a good intention. My advice was added in order to help you make sure that what you output does indeed sound better than the midi, and that nothing important is lost, like the balance between instruments, as I've mentioned numerous times. I'm trying to help you make it sound as good as possible, but in a way that won't take up too much of your time, like velocity-tweaking would. =)

Zero
March 5th, 2011, 06:07 am
Remember we're talking amateur musicians here.

Equisix gets a chance to practice using GPO, and composers get to hear their stuff orchestrated - for fun

HopelessComposer
March 5th, 2011, 06:14 am
Well that's your opinion. Basically, you're being hypocritical in saying people should shut up and not share their opinion, even while you share yours, and you do it in an insulting way. It makes it a bit hard to take you seriously. It's definitely possible to disagree with someone else's opinion without calling them stupid or telling them to keep quiet, and I think you should try it.

Personally, I haven't seen anyone complaining, but if that's how you want to interpret it, I suppose no one can stop you.


Well that's your opinion. Basically, you're being hypocritical in saying people should shut up and not share their opinion, even while you share yours, and you do it in an insulting way. It makes it a bit hard to take you seriously. It's definitely possible to disagree with someone else's opinion without calling them stupid or telling them to keep quiet, and I think you should try it.

Personally, I haven't seen anyone complaining, but if that's how you want to interpret it, I suppose no one can stop you.
Heheh. I'm not being hypocritical at all. I'm saying you should shut up, not everybody with an opinion. Based on what I've seen of you, your first post in this thread wasn't to help Equisix, but to stroke your own ego. You came in here, with no information to go on, and just decided to assume he was doing everything "wrong," when there can't even be a "wrong" when it comes to free help. Instead of offering to help via PM or something like that, you gave him your usual obnoxious, holier-than-thou speech that you've always been known for on this forum, with, I'm sure, no real plans of helping him even if he needed it.

Were you seriously going to teach him how to professionally mix music?
Definitely not. Your first post in here wasn't a kindly "let's help people together!" as your bullshit sugar-coating made it out to be.
It was a simple "I hope you're not doing everything WRONG, LOL. Though I'm sure you are. Don't worry, I'm here to point that out for you!"

You're definitely a bastard, even if you're a sneaky one. And sneaky bastards piss me off a million times more than regular ones do. At first, I thought maybe I was reading you wrong. Then I asked a handful of fellow Ichigoans what they thought of you, and they agreed with my sneaky bastard theory, so now I know it's not just me. So yeah. You try to make your posts look white, but I think they're definitely black. If you're actually a nice guy, then my profuse apologies. Just know that to me (and the people I asked), you're sending some pretty bad vibes.

You're acting like you want to help Equisix with his music with the purest intentions, but I don't think that's the case AT ALL. And that's why I'm angry at you.

And that is why I told you to shut up. = \

Remember we're talking amateur musicians here.

Equisix gets a chance to practice using GPO, and composers get to hear their stuff orchestrated - for fun
He fucking knows that already. And that's the only reason he posted in here, because he KNEW Equisix wasn't fulfilling the arbitrary requirements he was setting for him.
And you're a smart guy, so I'm going to say you KNEW he knew.
My guess is if you weren't such a coolheaded guy too, your response would've been closer to mine.

Anyway, sorry for fighting in your thread Equisix. I hope someone decides to use your services.

Zero
March 5th, 2011, 06:22 am
HCxSolaphar bff http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/ZeroIchigo/emot-unsmith.gif

HopelessComposer
March 5th, 2011, 06:22 am
Forever and ever. XD

Solaphar
March 5th, 2011, 12:59 pm
Equisix gets a chance to practice using GPO, and composers get to hear their stuff orchestrated - for fun
Does he want to practice running a midi through GPO samples or does he want to practice producing something listenable (which involves a little extra work)? That's what I was talking about, and I'm pretty sure that's what brncao was saying too (though he's welcome to correct me if I'm off).


I'm not trying to take away from his fun, so please don't frame it in a manner implying that that's my intention.


HopelessCompser: Even if you denigrate and vilify me, it doesn't make my words any less true. Instead of attacking me, how about you express your opinion in a non-hostile way.


If you want to mischaracterize me and use insults, well, that's your choice. I'm not going to engage in that. Also, you, and anyone else, are free to perceive me however you wish (it doesn't mean your perception reflects reality). You can't silence me though. If you want to share your opinion, that's great, and you're welcome to do that. But if you just want to attack me, don't expect me to sit by passively and let that happen. I'm not a pacifist. If you come in just to try to tear me up, I will defend myself against your false accusations. With that said, I really wish I didn't have to waste time defending my character from people who don't like what I have to say. Try NOT attacking me, and attacking my opinions instead. And if Equisix has a problem with my advice, why not let him tell me that?

So yes, while you needn't hide or hold back your opinions, there's a difference between just plain mudslinging and having a meaningful conversation. You're entitled to your opinion, and I'm entitled to mine, and it's okay for us to have different opinions. However, it's *NOT* okay for you to express your disagreement with my opinions by insulting me and making libelous accusations.


Treat all members with respect. Any personal attacks on another person or their beliefs is not tolerated.
We don't have to be friends, but we *DO* have to express basic human decency towards each other. So, instead of quickly getting angry at my opinions, consider discussing them calmly instead.

Gekkeiju
March 5th, 2011, 02:27 pm
Oh dear.

Im sorry Solaphar, but i partially agree with HC. I'm hard pressed to find any posts by you where you dont either criticize or 'correct' someone. i dont know if you realise you're doing it, but the way you talk to people, always using complex words for complex words' sake (and come on, I think even -you- know you're doing that on purpose) makes you come across as a bit of an ass. I don't know if you realise this, but I'm telling you now, it does.

I don't quite understand what you're trying to achieve here, i've looked at your profile, you have no friends added and you've disabled visitor messages. It seems you haven't come here to try and make friends or anything like that, you just seem to be here to relay the rule book to everyone and to correct everyone who you think is wrong. I don't understand that, what's the point of joining a community, if you don't want to make friends with anyone? :/

*sigh*
I'm sure you'll do what you always do now, and try and 'correct' me, maybe quote a wikipedia article or two. Go ahead. I am interested in what you think you stand to gain from Ichigo's though.

Solaphar
March 5th, 2011, 02:40 pm
Oh dear.

Im sorry Solaphar, but i partially agree with HC. I'm hard pressed to find any posts by you where you dont either criticize or 'correct' someone. i dont know if you realise you're doing it, but the way you talk to people, always using complex words for complex words' sake (and come on, I think even -you- know you're doing that on purpose) makes you come across as a bit of an ass. I don't know if you realise this, but I'm telling you now, it does.
I'll repeat what I already told HC. You can perceive me however you wish. I really don't care what you, or anyone else here thinks of me. But I won't sit back and let people drag me through the mud, just because they happen to dislike my opinions, or the manner in which I express them. And I am not deliberately trying to be perceived as an ass. I'm perfectly capable of getting along with anyone, as long as they offer mutual courtesy. We don't have to be pals, but we shouldn't be at each other's throats, either. Who wants that added stress?

As for my use of complex words, they allow me to express myself and get my point across as accurately as possible, because they often have very specific meanings, thus reducing the likelihood of misinterpretation or misunderstanding. Less complex words are more likely to have multiple meanings.


I don't quite understand what you're trying to achieve here, i've looked at your profile, you have no friends added and you've disabled visitor messages. It seems you haven't come here to try and make friends or anything like that, you just seem to be here to relay the rule book to everyone and to correct everyone who you think is wrong. I don't understand that, what's the point of joining a community, if you don't want to make friends with anyone? :/
Not that my profile is anyone's business (it's hidden for a reason), but since you're asking in a non-hostile way, I originally came here looking for a midi of a certain tune from Eureka 7. I stuck around because I like anime and vg music, and stuff related to it.

And you are correct in your assessment that I'm not here to make friends. I'm not interested in being friends with most of the regulars (especially the not ones who've been around for many years), and I'm sure the feeling's mutual. So that's fine by me. =) From what I can see, it's just an old cabal of regulars dead-set against me, but I am willing to be friends with some of the relatively newer people, like the ones who've been around less than 2 years, give or take. Whoever hasn't been corrupted by the toxicity of the old-order cabal.


There's an enormous difference between attacking me as a person, and attacking my ideas and opinions. I get along well with people who aren't quick to make personal attacks against me.


*sigh*
I'm sure you'll do what you always do now, and try and 'correct' me, maybe quote a wikipedia article or two. Go ahead.
Yes yes, go ahead and make assumptions, and predict my moves, lol. Doesn't hurt me.


I am interested in what you think you stand to gain from Ichigo's though.
One of the biggest reasons I'm here is for the anime and vg sheet music & midi files, and I would hope that would be a major reason for anyone to be here. Afterall, if someone's not here for that, then why are they here?

Anyway, if this forum wasn't about anime or vg music, I wouldn't be here. So if you're intent on getting rid of me, you'll have to try and get rid of that stuff first. =P *sarc*



One last thing I want to point out here: Basically, I repeated most of the main points of what brncao said, but with some minor rephrasing, and yet somehow, I caught all the flak...

At this point I'm not all that surprised. I know that, to an unfortunate number of people around here, it's not the words that matter, but the person who says them.

It doesn't matter what I do or say, I'll still receive unjustified personal attacks for it from the old ones. So, while I'll do my best to rebut the attempted libel, I'll continue to expect it. This incident is just more evidence proving my hypothesis correct, that most of the older members have it in for me, and are conspiring against me. I extend my thanks to the people who are helping to prove me right. The more personal attacks you launch against me, the more you'll prove me correct.

Zero
March 5th, 2011, 03:07 pm
Group therapy! Group therapy!

Let Equisix do what he wants. Everything's a learning process.

M
March 5th, 2011, 03:54 pm
Let Equisix do what he wants. Everything's a learning process.

This.

Please people, he's offering a service, not a product. If it's crap, then it's crap; if it's fantastic, it's fantastic. Let him try a song once before you burn him/her with negative comments.

Solaphar
March 5th, 2011, 03:59 pm
Let Equisix do what he wants. Everything's a learning process.

Please people, he's offering a service, not a product. If it's crap, then it's crap; if it's fantastic, it's fantastic. Let him try a song once before you burn him/her with negative comments.
Yes, this and this. These two are doing it right by expressing their opinion without attacking anyone. That's all I've been asking for. Thank you guys for disagreeing with me in a way that doesn't attack me as a person. Rationality prevails.

If everyone had done it this way to begin with, I wouldn't have had to make multiple posts defending myself from unwarranted character assassination. I hope that from now on, everyone will follow their example.

Equisix
March 5th, 2011, 09:29 pm
How did a simple gesture turn into a heated discussion...

Solaphar
March 5th, 2011, 10:11 pm
How did a simple gesture turn into a heated discussion...
Just read each post and you can follow the sequence of events. In any case, it's probably best if we leave it alone now... Do you really want to revive the "heated discussion" or do you want to try to bring the subject back to how you can use Garritan to render mp3 audio based upon other folk's midi/mus files? I'd like to believe most people would prefer the latter.

Equisix
March 5th, 2011, 10:15 pm
I read each post...

I was just thinking about how all of you were over reacting

Solaphar
March 5th, 2011, 10:18 pm
I read each post...

I was just thinking about how all of you were over reacting
Alright, if you did read each post, then I would hope you'd understand and just move on. But since you don't want to talk about Garritan, and since you apparently need more of an explanation, what happened is: I shared my opinion, and rather than just disagreeing with my opinion, some people chose to attack me. I defended myself, because there's no way I'm just going to allow people to use the thread as a venue for posting libel and insults about me without defending myself against such things. It's one thing to disagree, and quite another to attack the character of the person with whom you disagree.

I don't see what you aim to do by continuing to keep the subject at the forefront, other than restart the argument (and I sure hope that's not your intention). So please just leave it alone. It's time to talk Garritan now.

Zero
March 5th, 2011, 10:58 pm
http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/934/tooseriouscat.jpg Running a vacuum cleaner through this thread wouldn't be a crime.

Solaphar
March 5th, 2011, 11:08 pm
Here's a midi for you to try running through Garritan. 13545

Somehow it seems appropriate to the situation.

Whiplash
March 6th, 2011, 01:40 am
http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/934/tooseriouscat.jpg Running a vacuum cleaner through this thread wouldn't be a crime.

http://fishbowl.pastiche.org/archives/pictures/xkcd_duty_calls.png

Equisix
March 6th, 2011, 02:09 am
Here's a midi for you to try running through Garritan. 13545

Somehow it seems appropriate to the situation.

god that song pisses me off so much
Reminds me of clowns which i hate

HopelessComposer
March 6th, 2011, 03:31 am
The guy in that xkcd comic is a noble man. Justice knows no jurisdiction! XD
...time to go read some xkcd....

KaitouKudou
March 6th, 2011, 05:09 am
Goose Fabrah people....GOOOOSSSEEE FAAABRAAAAH.

wonder how many people will know what I'm talking about.XD

brncao
March 7th, 2011, 09:10 am
Grr I lost my post because my PC went BSOD!

I've been working on my "Legend of Zelda" Medley for 4 years now and I need someone to help me out with it (making it sound real). I can only commit to your services if you can mix them out of studio monitors or studio headphones, have some kind of DAW (FL Studio preferred), and be willing to make adjustments to it. We'll do the mastering together. Earlier I said something about key velocities. Well you see, this affects the timbre of an instrument, not just volume. At forte or mezzo forte, If a GPO piano were to "ring" at higher velocities, but was unintentional on my part (midi pianos don't "ring" even at 127), then you will need to lower it a bit. I may also ask you to make adjustments to note durations particularly with staccatos; this is because of the instruments' decay, which varies with the soundfont you're using. This pretty much sounds like you're putting yourself in my shoes doesn't it? lol

I realize I have to go back and comb through the entire medley to check for pitch range on every single instruments due to transpositioning (so I could find the best fit) :frusty: over 500 measures is a pain. I'll do 99% of it, and you can catch any mistakes I make. There's a lot of commitment involved and I realize I can't finish the medley since college is bogging me down.

I will give you a couple scores from my arrangement for you to work with. Is that fine?

Ander
March 8th, 2011, 12:53 am
You know what... I was just about to submit an .mus file for him to transform it... but I was just thinking... what if I don't like it.... then I can just tell him that one part, or twenty two, should not be in that way, right? Kinda like a composer and an arranger or a conducter, right...? This is already established... right?

deathraider
March 8th, 2011, 01:37 am
Grr I lost my post because my PC went BSOD!

I've been working on my "Legend of Zelda" Medley for 4 years now and I need someone to help me out with it (making it sound real). I can only commit to your services if you can mix them out of studio monitors or studio headphones, have some kind of DAW (FL Studio preferred), and be willing to make adjustments to it. We'll do the mastering together. Earlier I said something about key velocities. Well you see, this affects the timbre of an instrument, not just volume. At forte or mezzo forte, If a GPO piano were to "ring" at higher velocities, but was unintentional on my part (midi pianos don't "ring" even at 127), then you will need to lower it a bit. I may also ask you to make adjustments to note durations particularly with staccatos; this is because of the instruments' decay, which varies with the soundfont you're using. This pretty much sounds like you're putting yourself in my shoes doesn't it? lol

I realize I have to go back and comb through the entire medley to check for pitch range on every single instruments due to transpositioning (so I could find the best fit) :frusty: over 500 measures is a pain. I'll do 99% of it, and you can catch any mistakes I make. There's a lot of commitment involved and I realize I can't finish the medley since college is bogging me down.

I will give you a couple scores from my arrangement for you to work with. Is that fine?

I think he's using Finale GPO, which won't really work for what you need...

brncao
March 8th, 2011, 02:57 am
I think we can work something out. If he has the VST, then maybe he can use open-source DAW. I'm not familiar with this area though.

deathraider
March 8th, 2011, 03:20 am
I guess if he has one of the versions with Kontakt Aria, then he should be able to do that. I know for my version (2008) and earlier the GPO instruments and Kontakt Player only work with Finale.

brncao
March 8th, 2011, 03:44 am
I guess if he has one of the versions with Kontakt Aria, then he should be able to do that. I know for my version (2008) and earlier the GPO instruments and Kontakt Player only work with Finale.

It means I have the full Garritan Library and not just The Garritan Instruments for finale

I think he means the actual VST plugin itself. I highly encourage Equisix to try out FL Studio (producer edition). It has lifetime updates and upgrades, and it's $200 (~$115 if you're a college student). It's very user-friendly, and provides a good foundation for learning how to use DAW. Imo I use DAW way more often than Finale. It's really worth it.

deathraider
March 8th, 2011, 03:56 am
Oh! I didn't see that post. Sorry!

Equisix
March 8th, 2011, 04:36 am
aggh
Im 14 and i gotz school and I just got it
Im still figuring out how to use it without finale as the program just shows me some a keyboard that can play all the sounds in the library
I got lots school and asian parent to deal with on top of that

Edit
I checked out the FL thing and appernetly it used to be called fruity loops

brncao
March 8th, 2011, 05:43 am
4 or 5 more years until college. That's quite long. Yeah, GPO4 is a standalone product. It's meant to be used with another program. I see you don't have Finale. If you had planned to buy it, don't. Save up for FL Studio Pro edition instead. I'll show you how to use it. Even though I have good orchestral soundfonts (my digital piano provides good orchestral samples already + a couple other plugins) I simply don't have the time to finish it plus I feel it's a good experience for you. I'll let you tweak my arrangement however way you want with my guidance.

Also, if you like Zelda music like I do, check out ZREO. They reorchestrate Zelda music. If you want tips on orchestration, you can ask them. They know more than me.

Equisix
March 8th, 2011, 05:46 am
no i have finale 2011 and my friend has some friend and family discount ithink a fl studio
ill see more into that

Nyu001
March 8th, 2011, 02:10 pm
You can try Reaper for 30 days for free. It allow you to save projects and you get an idea of how to use a DAW. You may be able to export the MIDI data later if you move of sequencer or if you want to open it in a notation software. The bad of opening it in a notation software later is that it will look messy and you will have to go through the whole job of arranging all the notes correctly.

http://reaper.fm/index.php

Equisix
March 9th, 2011, 02:26 am
My dad has lots of audio eqwuipment
hers some pix
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20617046/Audio%20Equipment.rar
Im sure he also has some good mics around somewhere

M
March 9th, 2011, 02:58 am
XD Some of that stuff is old school. Although the Behringer unit is a halfway decent soundboard for the hobbyist, and I've heard some talk about Onyx audio.

brncao
March 9th, 2011, 03:08 am
Well I'll be darned. You're very lucky. All you need is a DAW and you're set (and probably a good PC or Mac). What kind of speakers does he use?

Equisix
March 9th, 2011, 03:56 am
Um these are the ones at my computers http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20617046/Speakers.rar
My dad has a bunch of big speakers around the house
http://reviews.cnet.com/acoustic-research-ar4131-black/4505-12699_7-33054722.html

brncao
March 9th, 2011, 04:54 am
Can you do some tests on the GPO4 for me, and record a couple samples (download Reason and give it a try)? Play a staccato note for violin, viola, cello, and bass. Play one that's accented and one that's soft. Many times, if you play a staccato note softly on those string instruments, the attack is too slow thus you don't hear anything. See if you can figure out how to shorten the attack time.

SoraKing
March 9th, 2011, 02:10 pm
Ah, I'm pretty much doing the same thing you are doing Equisix, except I am using Edirol Orchestral and FL Studio 9. I have taken the task of remastering Kingdom Hearts MIDIs on another thread, but anyways I digress.

Does GPO have a good choir samples? If so I am in need of your services.

Equisix
March 13th, 2011, 03:12 am
Hm
I added GPO as a channel in FL studio but i still dont knowhow to use it

Nyu001
March 13th, 2011, 05:41 am
In your GPO's window in FL studio there is an icon next to an arrow that is pointing down. Click the icon and in "Input Port" select any number. Now add a "MIDI out" channel from FL Studio top menu: "Channels > Add one > MIDI out" (Or just right click in the pattern window > insert > MIDI out). Once you have the MIDI out channel open, configure the "PORT" and "Channel" options. Port Must match GPO "Input Port" and "Channel" will match with whatever is the first patch in GPO that you loaded. If you want to load more GPO Patches, you will have to add more "MIDI out" Channels.

You can use a max of 16 Midi Channels with each port. Once you are using all of them you will need to open a new window of GPO.

I hope I explained well and not confusing.

link0099
March 13th, 2011, 07:02 am
could you convert my midi file ive uploaded? its in my topic that you posted in.

thanyou

Equisix
March 13th, 2011, 07:16 am
You said the midi files have wrong notes so can u upload a music xml file?

link0099
March 13th, 2011, 07:38 am
how do i do that exactly? im in sibelius

Equisix
March 13th, 2011, 07:44 am
Dunno
But it should be something like file>save as>File type>music xml
or file>export>xml

link0099
March 13th, 2011, 07:45 am
sib 6 cant export xml so ive found out =/

the midi file says its the right instrument, just the wrong sound come s out...

see what happens?

Equisix
March 13th, 2011, 07:50 am
no
its just that midi sound like that
Lol
u got a false alarm

link0099
March 13th, 2011, 07:51 am
oh good

Equisix
March 13th, 2011, 08:03 am
Im begining to think my computer isnt suited for doing this
It keeps saying physical memory low
Only an Athlon II x2 250 On 2gb ram(single channel)

brncao
March 13th, 2011, 09:09 am
In your GPO's window in FL studio there is an icon next to an arrow that is pointing down. Click the icon and in "Input Port" select any number. Now add a "MIDI out" channel from FL Studio top menu: "Channels > Add one > MIDI out" (Or just right click in the pattern window > insert > MIDI out). Once you have the MIDI out channel open, configure the "PORT" and "Channel" options. Port Must match GPO "Input Port" and "Channel" will match with whatever is the first patch in GPO that you loaded. If you want to load more GPO Patches, you will have to add more "MIDI out" Channels.

You can use a max of 16 Midi Channels with each port. Once you are using all of them you will need to open a new window of GPO.

I hope I explained well and not confusing.
He doesn't need to do that. Go to Channels > Add one > More...
A dialog box pops up. In the lower right corner, click refresh > Fast Scan. Garritan Personal Orchestra (or something along those lines) should show up under VST plugins. Enable it.
Now you can add this track by going to channels > Add one > GPO

@ Equisix: If you're still struggling with FL Studio, go post in that FL Studio thread and I'll help you out.


Im begining to think my computer isnt suited for doing this
It keeps saying physical memory low
Only an Athlon II x2 250 On 2gb ram(single channel)
Here are several things you can do.

1. Bounce/freeze your tracks.
2. add one GPO VSTi track and add multiple channels within that VSTi. I'll edit this portion later with pics. It's getting late now.

If you don't understand, you can post in the other thread. I don't want to clutter this thread up.

Equisix
March 14th, 2011, 12:52 am
I dont know if this is right or not but here you go

Sry
Im just learning how to use the programs

brncao
March 14th, 2011, 04:02 am
Is that a GPO demonstration, or are you just practicing with FL Studio (sorry I don't know which "program" you're referring to)? That sounds like Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth.

Equisix
March 14th, 2011, 04:27 am
Someone wanted me to make something with GPO
but i failed at it
Im failing when it comes to more than 4 instrumetns

link0099
March 14th, 2011, 04:49 am
hahah youll get better, but theres a whole lot of instruments missing, and some of the dynamics are out

Equisix
March 14th, 2011, 05:41 am
I think i got it now
If the dynamics werent in the midi they wont be here though

link0099
March 14th, 2011, 06:35 am
still missing flute and oboe parts.

dont worry haha =D ive posted the sheets on my thread if you want to see the dynamics and keep working on it but its ok

Equisix
March 14th, 2011, 07:19 am
I checked
The flute and oboe are there
Theyre just a bit soft

brncao
March 14th, 2011, 08:38 am
That's what I was talking about earlier. You can't simply go from Microsoft Midi to GPO. Some parts are too loud while others are too soft.

link0099
March 14th, 2011, 11:17 am
and it would be hard to change if you dont know what the melody is meant to be, or even what i had in mind

Solaphar
March 14th, 2011, 12:17 pm
and it would be hard to change if you dont know what the melody is meant to be, or even what i had in mind
Might I suggest you send him an mp3 guide track, so that Equisix can hear exactly how the instruments are balanced, and he doesn't have to make 30 drafts trying to guess at the dynamics?

His default midi rendering device might balance the instruments differently than yours, so probably an audio file, like mp3, would be a better guide on how to balance the instruments, rather than just a midi.

Ander
March 15th, 2011, 12:47 am
The bass is ok... the problem is when the brass section comes in. 500 to 1KHz goes off the chart... making that crackling noise in my earphones... or maybe it's just my earphones.... you guys don't hear any crackling noises? Well... anyhow... later it's the bass part that goes off really loud... again making my earphones do funny things. Pretty much the bass stays really loud to me. The brass becomes problem again. I think you should consider muting certain instruments and solo-ing others to see how the instruments sound individually.

brncao
March 15th, 2011, 05:24 am
I hear crackling too. I think he should arrange or compose his own songs first to get the hang of it, both the DAW and GPO.

Equisix
March 15th, 2011, 05:38 am
I think the crackling is because i turned other instruments out to balance
I should have done the opposite and turned the volume of the overpowering instruments down

link0099
March 15th, 2011, 05:40 am
theres a youtube upload of the mp3 on my thread

Equisix
March 18th, 2011, 03:42 am
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20617046/New%20Finish%20Final.mp3
Next try

Lelangir
March 18th, 2011, 04:01 am
hey Esquisix, this is a tall order, but you wanna try humanizing this piece? If you're watching the anime Madoka (currently airing) you've heard this piece played in ep9. Of course, the OST isn't out so I transcribed it and humanized it myself. However, I don't have good strings vsti.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GElSOLaau8M

I've got a midi file and sheet music if you want to give it a go.

link0099
March 18th, 2011, 04:06 am
hey its pretty goddamn good.

just missing the trumpets in the first part (mixes nice though) and some bassoon parts.

snare parts missing in the middles section. i think you just need to turn the trumpets up a little bit.

great sounds though

must be frustrating remixing someone elses work and not knowing what its meant to sound like

Equisix
March 18th, 2011, 04:26 am
Im not sure about Sibelius but my Finale autoputs dynamics into its midis
Doesnt seem to be so for sibelius though


hey Esquisix, this is a tall order, but you wanna try humanizing this piece? If you're watching the anime Madoka (currently airing) you've heard this piece played in ep9. Of course, the OST isn't out so I transcribed it and humanized it myself. However, I don't have good strings vsti.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GElSOLaau8M

I've got a midi file and sheet music if you want to give it a go.

kk

Nyu001
March 18th, 2011, 05:12 am
Looks like you are getting a few requests. Nice. =D