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Milchh
March 15th, 2011, 04:22 am
-- [ Electronic Dance Music ] --

AWARENESS THREAD!!

OKay! As Ichigo's is mainly a music community, there are many different styles that are regulars -- that being: classical, modern/soundtrack-ish (the "anime" style as I like to call it), and even some rock and jazz. Now, of course, all of these have some give and take, and you could basically sum up EVERYTHING that's put out today as "modern" (stuff like rock, rap, etc.). However, I've seen one of the biggest musical movements not quite being introduced here: Electronic Dance Music (or, EDM, for short).

Now, I'm not complaining -- not one bit -- but I just feel as if the whole world of EDM isn't understood or appreciated very well. Too much I see it as it being swept under the rug as, "Oh, techno?! That's just others people music looped over and over and over while the beat goes four to the floor." Actually, in all reality, that's a pretty good generalization, however, there are people who say they LOVE Classical music yet add, ”...it helps me fall asleep.” But that's a totally different story. (And I'd like to note that when you're done reading this, you'll also catch that generalizing EDM as “techno” is the same as calling something like Rachmaninoff, Prokofiev or even Chopin as “classical.”) My job here is to try and just at least turn a couple ears on to how wonderful EDM really can be – even if it's 50 people who immediately start loving it, or just one person who dips their feet into the water.

NOTE: I'd love for this topic to be a very descriptive information thread on the topic, however, I will just give people links if they further wish to get in depth with things such as styles, history, etc. After-all, this is an “awareness thread” – something simple and fairly short!


1 – ”'EDM?' Is that a b-rated sci-fi from the 70s?”

As with everything else that you learn about, it's good to have a definition in mind. Here's the Wikipedia “first-section-definition” of EDM:


Electronic dance music (EDM) is electronic music that is produced primarily for the purposes of use within a nightclub setting, or in an environment that is centered upon dance-based entertainment. The music is largely created for use by disc jockeys and is produced with the intention of it being heard in the context of a continuous DJ set; wherein the DJ progresses from one record to the next via a synchronized segue or "mix".

Electronic dance music is a broad set of percussive music genres that largely inherit from the electronic music of Kraftwerk and 1970s disco music. Such music was originally born of and popularized via regional nightclub scenes in the 1980s. By the early 1990s, the presence of electronic dance music in contemporary culture was noted widely and its role in society began to be explored in published historical, cultural and social science academic studies. It is constructed by means of electronic instruments such as synthesizers, drum machines and sequencers, and generally emphasizes the unique sounds of those instruments, even when mimicking traditional acoustic instrumentation. It sometimes encompasses music not primarily meant for dancing, but derived from the dance-oriented styles.



So, as you can tell, EDM – fundamentally – is music that is to be danced to, and that ends up being combined with other songs made by different people. In all reality, it's the modern “courante,” if you will. EDM takes music back to it's original state and purpose: to simply be enjoyed and danced to.


2 – ”Electro, Electro-pop, Electronic...Techno, Hardcore Techno, Speedcore, Hardstyle...DnB, Dubstep... isn't it just all 'techno'!?”

In short – not even close! You'd actually be surprised how overly specific and genre-ridden the world of EDM really is. If you thought people who debate either or not Beethoven was a “Classical” of “Romantic” composer, then you're in for a whole new world of hurt. Instead of tonality of form being the main culprit of distinction, tempo (as well as some sound characteristics, like “industrial” or “heavy sub-bass”) is the main decider of genre.

There are A LOT of different styles of EDM – too many to count, really. To make it even more disgusting how many genres there are, the names of styles from the past have been changed, yet at the same time being accepted as a synonym. One of these examples comes from Drum 'n Bass, which happens to be one of my all-time favourite styles. Originally an unnamed style, the first DnB music was played in “rave” clubs in the early 80s. Clubs would play hip-hop music, but the beats had a focus on syncopation, and were generally pretty quick, too (~160-180bpm). This would later be dubbed as “jungle,” because of the “two-feel” that the music has. In the mid-90s the term “Drum 'n Bass” was picked up on, because the style had a lot of emphasis on quick drum-patterns and low, heavy sub-bass lines.

Here is a list with some of the more popular and less “specific” styles of EDM, linked to Wikipedia for an in-depth description on their musical style. A musical example will also be provided:


Disco (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disco#Musical_characteristics)
Examples of Disco music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEPz4Vsnfg4&feature=related)

Drum and Bass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drum_and_bass#Importance_of_drum_and_bassline_elem ents)
Example of Drum and Bass music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9Z7WND01xE)


Downtempo/beat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downtempo)
Example of Downtempo/beat music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTc2rU5Ef64)


Dubstep (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubstep#Characteristics)
Example of Dubstep music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On-gl8D1X3Q)


Electro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electro_music#Definition_and_characteristics)
Example of Electro music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv4K3UX3rIs)


Hardstyle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardstyle)
Example of Hardstyle music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf6LfbwzHhk)
*Note: a lot of Hardstyle has lyrics containing extremely explicit (trust me) drug and some sexual references...therefore, this is probably one of the best examples without it being “said” right out there! (And one of my favourite Hardstyle songs too)


House (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_music#See_also)
Examples of House music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQzI-0pxLxk&feature=related)


Techno (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Techno#Stylistic_considerations)
Example of Techno music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-191OuTbu0)


Trance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trance_music)
Example of Trance music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUen-l6M-jU)


After reading a little bit and listening to some of the examples, I'm sure you can already hear the distinct characteristics in each of the different styles – I hope! I also want to cover my tracks quickly, and say that the styles that I posted are purely for introduction and explanation into what is “out there” in the world of EDM. Yes, Dubstep is sub-genre of Drum and Bass, but personally, they're incredibly different in how they sound – as dubstep sound like it should have nasty rap lyrics over the top of it, while DnB has a more of a lighter-jazz feeling to it, “lyrically.”

3 – ”DJs are over-rated...I can play songs off of my iPod too!”

As much as I've debated the skill it takes to be a (good) DJ many times before with people, I am going to skip all of the jibbing and jabbing that comes along with it. In short, a DJ (Disc Jockey) is somebody who plays songs for people to listen and/or dance to. Generally speaking, that kind of DJ is called a “Radio DJ,” however, once you get into the club scene and basically anywhere else from casual radio, DJs become someone much more than that – they rule your entire inner-being and take control of the dance-floor. In all reality, he's the “puppet master” (that's what I call a...good...DJ).

Club DJs don't just play a track one after another, they “mix” songs together to make one big track. For example, when a DJ “mixes” he (this is very a general and fundamental exmaplation of mixing) will take the last part of one song, “mix” (or layer) the beginning of a new song with it, and then transition into that second song once the first one ends – this is also keeping the same tempo too, so people can continually dance without having to awkwardly change up their dance moves, so to speak. This is called beatmatching. That second part is the most important aspect of a “good” DJ. Another thing to consider is the key of each song. A lot of amateurs tend to simply mix a song into another one, with no regard to how they will sound when they're BOTH being played at the same time. A “great” DJ will be able to mix both of the songs (beatmatch them correctly, that's a given) and also have the songs compliment each other in tonality.

The main tool a DJ uses for mixing, is...well, a mixer, but it also has (at least) two turntables, or the ability to load and play two songs simultaneously. The mixer allows the DJ to manipulate the levels on a given track in order to bring in another track for a transition.

I want to briefly mention “mash-ups.” These are extremely popularized, however, they are also extremely underestimated to how much skill it takes to create a good mash-up, let alone doing it live. Unlike mixing, a mash-up is playing two tracks at the same exact time, in which the two songs combine to create an entirely new song – one that incorporates elements of both tracks at once. I wanted to mention this, because many DJs who start out tend to automatically think they can do mash-ups without even knowing how to simply mix two trance songs together...I know too many people who make the same mistake [in my hometown, at least] and get frustrated with people's opinions on how it all sounds. /endrant!

Learn more about DJs, mixing, etc. from this link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disc_jockeys).

Well, I hope that you were able to learn a little bit more about the world of EDM! Like I said, this is in no way supposed to be an in-depth guide, but rather an introduction and “awareness thread” to it.

Now go out there and enjoy the sounds :)

Equisix
March 15th, 2011, 05:12 am
At first i thought it said ED awareness Im like WHAT???????????

M
March 15th, 2011, 11:24 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzuH9YcRb5A&feature=mr_meh&list=PL089F5B21C9726C71&index=2&playnext=0

Here's a sample of what EDM songs sound like. The playlist ranges from Electronica to Progressive Trance to Boa Trance to Hard Style, that I've found over the past 6 years that I really liked (sorry about the deleted videos, youtube just likes to chop them away). Two flavors that are left out from the above list is Picopop -- which I have a special playlist (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Buz309Ld2g&playnext=1&list=PL5F90D3A702498DFD) for that one, since it's technically Shibuya Kei -- Speedcore and Nightcore, since I don't like those two all that much XD.

Nyu001
March 15th, 2011, 06:46 pm
I shall do some DnB in a few weeks. B) Good thread Maze! But the title made me think of Breast Cancer, Aids...

GrinnHallows
March 23rd, 2011, 02:55 am
never usually listen to this stuff, but hey, I gave it a shot, I love it! Trying to spread it among my friends.

Milchh
March 23rd, 2011, 05:58 am
never usually listen to this stuff, but hey, I gave it a shot, I love it! Trying to spread it among my friends.

Day has been MADE!

:3

animefans12
March 28th, 2011, 11:39 pm
Nightcore is okay, but Trance is the best EDM I've ever heard.

Many people say that they hate EDM and say that it just loops over and over... and over again until they go practically insane. That's what makes Trance so awesome! Many of my friends just don't seem to understand Trance at all... TT;;

M
February 12th, 2012, 03:00 am
I want to take this moment to say that I want a Korg KP3 Kaoss. Screw using computer software to do this crap, I want some analogue interactions!

Taemond
February 12th, 2012, 03:25 am
I would actually love to see an electronic music community formed on Ichigos. Particularly since I'm trying to make some sort of a career out of it. Great thread Milchh. ;)


I want to take this moment to say that I want a Korg KP3 Kaoss. Screw using computer software to do this crap, I want some analogue interactions!

I support this! I'm using a keyboard to play most of the rhythms I want and to get a base sound to work off. And once I've got the sound I want I'm actually using my guitar as a midi controller to play out any rhythm that's too complex for me on the keyboard.

Mega Edit: Didn't release this was posted almost a year a go...............how on earth did I miss this? @_@

Milchh
February 12th, 2012, 10:58 pm
Yep! And I was even trying to create an awareness of EDM music to the community far before this post as well, haha! I'm glad you bumped it (same with you, M)!

And speaking on M, I wish I had some electronic controllers of some sort too. I'm in the early-early-early development stages with a friend of mine, discussing a new (I can only describe this with the utmost pretentious vocabulary...) avant-garde, futurist, distorted, electronic, f*cked-up, simple-yet-complex, acousto-electric band...with unmatching masks and outfits. Anyway the point is, I'm try to emphasis the acousto-electric part of that description. So we're also in the same boat, you could say, with finding some technology that could help us experiment in a live setting.

Taemond
February 13th, 2012, 02:08 am
The only problem I can actually see for a live performance at the moment is latency. I was playing around the other night with my keyboard and guitar, just hooked up to my computer. My guitar doesn't have much latency but still enough to be annoying, the keyboard is worse though. But it was quite easy just to play and loop over rhythms on both the guitar and keyboard. I suppose you could quite easily do the same thing and just have a pedal set-up connected to a laptop or something like that.

I also don't have a proper ASIO compatible sound card, so I expect the latency would reduce to a playable amount if you were to get one of those.

Milchh
February 13th, 2012, 03:24 am
Well I was saying, not with a computer at hand, ex. just pedals, boards, etc.

Taemond
February 13th, 2012, 03:40 am
Well I was saying, not with a computer at hand, ex. just pedals, boards, etc.

I foresee many-a keyboards..................... I've wondered myself how you'd do an electronic performance live. At the moment I can only see a keyboard hooked up to multiple looping pedals. But even then you couldn't just bring all the instrumentation in at once; not without quite a few people and keyboards. I'll try and borrow a friend's music gear, which is basically just a dozen or so pedals, mixer and an electronic drum kit. I'll see what I can come up with in terms of a live performance.

Actually there are keyboards and amps which can take preset midi sounds. It shouldn't be too hard to load all your sounds in beforehand, it'd just be like adding an extra effect or something. That way you could just plug anything in to the amp and use that setting. Same for the keyboard. If only I had one though...........