With copyright crap getting worse and worse I think youtube is going to become forgotten in the next 5 years. I don't want it to! I love watching stuff on there, lots of good vids, but now it seems like more and more and more videos are getting stupid copyright problems. "You can't use this, you can't use that, It's mine so I can do whatever I want with it". "I don't really give a crap if your little 7 year-old girl worked hard to sing that song, we own the rights so it's gone or we can always go to court about it. Copyright is getting more and more ridiculous and if it doesn't stop, youtube will because even creative artist need to use music that isn't there's for their videos. I've gotten videos taken off twice because I used 2 seconds of a song; I know what copyright law is but think it's just an excuse to sue; if it happens again, my account will be permanenty deleted. So now I've gotten where I'm afraid to upload anything on that account that isn't just my piano playing or a midi. It's not fair cause the stupid corporate companies always will win and there is nothing any of us who don't have a ton of money or power can do about it.

I honestly don't think "Youtube is going to die," especially not from something like this. Sure, it's annoying... but it's not like 50%+ of videos uploaded are muted/taken down because of copyright infringement.

And rarely have I seen videos of somebody doing a cover of a song where it was muted, nor have I heard about it as an epidemic where covers are straight-out taken off of Youtube. But then again, I'm not a huge uploader of these kinds of things, I only go off of what I see every now and again.

I somewhat agree with kentaku. It does seem like a large number of accounts have been deleted or just individual videos. However, I believe it will take longer than 5 years. I kinda look at youtube like myspace. eventually another better video sharing website will come along and replace it. I'm expecting Veoh to take over personally.

Youtube is going to die similarly to how Facebook and Twitter are going to die: by not dying. It's been around long enough to be a brand name, which makes it almost impossible to kill. An example of this is Yahoo, which has "died" three times so far.

I honestly don't think "Youtube is going to die," especially not from something like this. Sure, it's annoying... but it's not like 50%+ of videos uploaded are muted/taken down because of copyright infringement.

That's because companies no longer often allow that, they just claim rights and youtube removes the video no questions asked, no warning, nothing. Why can't we have a warning? It's not fair because youtube doesn't give us a warning or an option to change the video or delete it ourselves before a certain date, they just remove it and we get a star when all 3 stars are gotten our account is deleted permanently.



I guess it won't die but it would be so much better if copyright holders would just leave everyone alone that isn't making money off it. Guess they don't care cause they just want money from law suits. Twisting the National Laws to their liking.

I have to agree with you since there are more and more videos being taken down. Even some 5 year old videos are being taken down also! YouTube... At least give a clear explanation to why the heck you keep on removing these videos... A nice explanation besides the "It's owned by this company" excuse would be nice.

Usually when youtube removes a video it does say "this video has been removed due to copyright infringement" or something like that.

Usually when youtube removes a video it does say "this video has been removed due to copyright infringement" or something like that.

Yeah but there's no specifics, we don't know what we did always, it just makes me mad when it's only like 5 seconds! There is absolutly no reason at all to flag a video that has only 5 seconds of music. Too bad copyright law isn't practical as it should be.

Law should be what it is now except if the video is being used as educational, or any other non profit form of entertainment, than anyone may use it anything without permission, unless the copyright holder wants it removed because of some specific reason.

This is pretty normal for youtube. They will rather take down your video/account than to risk facing a lawsuit from those companies. Youtube is really afraid of lawsuits from other companies because those are the only things that stand between them and bankruptcy. Imagine if they defied every copyright claim and went to court to support the account holders. They would lose a lot of time and money to the courts.

If you are just an average user, it is difficult to get youtube to look into your matter because they don't have the time to analyze your case properly. They have thousands of things to attend to every single day.

What you can do is to try and create another account just in case your current account gets banned. Assuming your IP address isn't banned, you can still use the other account to go about youtube. Don't worry about losing your old account, I've seen youtubers who lose their old account but still thrive in their newer accounts.

Yeah but there's no specifics, we don't know what we did always, it just makes me mad when it's only like 5 seconds! There is absolutly no reason at all to flag a video that has only 5 seconds of music. Too bad copyright law isn't practical as it should be.

Law should be what it is now except if the video is being used as educational, or any other non profit form of entertainment, than anyone may use it anything without permission, unless the copyright holder wants it removed because of some specific reason.

If you're the provider of the video, they do mail you the party name that requested you to take it down. Similarly, they're now putting copyright information beneath the video, which sometimes links you back to a legal copy of the video. You, as a normal user don't need to worry about why a video was taken down other than the provider uploaded it without permission.

Like Cryskolt said, It could be worse, where Youtube forwards your personal information out to the copyright holder and have a class action lawsuit enacted on the user.

Like Cryskolt said, It could be worse, where Youtube forwards your personal information out to the copyright holder and have a class action lawsuit enacted on the user.

yikes! That would kill youtube for sure.

As long as it's a money-making venue, it will never die.

It's not fair cause the stupid corporate companies always will win and there is nothing any of us who don't have a ton of money or power can do about it.
If they own the rights, then they own the rights. That's how the law works. If you don't like the law, contact your legislators and push them to change it. Most people support copyright laws though, and you should too if you ever plan to make money from your manga that's in the works...

Also, Zero is spot-on. At this point, the only thing that can kill YouTube is if it loses too much money in the long run, but now that it's actually turning a profit, that has become much less likely... (It used to be losing lots of money in previous years)

Also, Zero is spot-on. At this point, the only thing that can kill YouTube is if it loses too much money in the long run, but now that it's actually turning a profit, that has become much less likely... (It used to be losing lots of money in previous years)

I was referring to the Youtubers and third party advertisers who use Youtube itself as a money-making venue.

As long as anything exists that allows people to get rich quick using any means at all costs, they will never die - from corporate giants who own the mass media and decides what the general population receives through the television, to drug cartels who feed solely on drug-addicted zombies for their income, to sponsors of social networking sites who use the venue as a means to shove any and all advertisements into people's faces to get as many people to buy their stuff - things like that. As long as big money's involved, they will never die.

It makes me happy to see how fast the human species is circling the drain. It's humbling when you're able to see both sides of the coin at the same time - the majority who are destroying the species without a care and the minority who spend their entire life's struggle towards "saving" the species - and to simply find humour in the coin itself and play with it in your hands for as long as the coin lasts.

If they own the rights, then they own the rights. That's how the law works. If you don't like the law, contact your legislators and push them to change it. Most people support copyright laws though, and you should too if you ever plan to make money from your manga that's in the works...



I do support copyright laws, but not to the extent that a company should be able to force youtube to remove a video when obviously all the video does is give the companies artist or video publicity therefore making them more money. Now if someone uploads an entire video to youtube that's different, but why should they be able to tell us we can't even use a small segment of content from them? Without copyright laws, it'd be a mess but I think they could be changed to be a little more fair to the general public. Let me tell you what I read, apparently your not aloud legaly to copy a song by ear, play it on the piano or whatever or sing it and upload it to youtube, apparently we don't have the right. That makes no sense.

I do support copyright laws, but not to the extent that a company should be able to force youtube to remove a video when obviously all the video does is give the companies artist or video publicity therefore making them more money. Now if someone uploads an entire video to youtube that's different, but why should they be able to tell us we can't even use a small segment of content from them? Without copyright laws, it'd be a mess but I think they could be changed to be a little more fair to the general public. Let me tell you what I read, apparently your not aloud legaly to copy a song by ear, play it on the piano or whatever or sing it and upload it to youtube, apparently we don't have the right. That makes no sense.

I think you're confusing the concept of copyright for licensed redistribution. Copyright is synonymous to "all rights". Even if it's not in the favor of the copyright holder, what they say about their content, goes. It's kinda like a stubborn child which is told what is best for them, but they decide to go their "own" way.

Similarly, Youtube doesn't remove content without there being illegal (read: political and ethical) content or by the request of a copyright holder. While you say that it's youtube's fault for removing the video, you have to remember that someone that represents or holds the copyright of the work has reported it to the admins of youtube for copyright infringement. If there's anyone you want to hate for this, hate the artists that decided to strong arm their intellectual property, not the host.

Artists gotta live, you know?

I do support copyright laws, but not to the extent that a company should be able to force youtube to remove a video when obviously all the video does is give the companies artist or video publicity therefore making them more money. Now if someone uploads an entire video to youtube that's different, but why should they be able to tell us we can't even use a small segment of content from them? Without copyright laws, it'd be a mess but I think they could be changed to be a little more fair to the general public. Let me tell you what I read, apparently your not aloud legaly to copy a song by ear, play it on the piano or whatever or sing it and upload it to youtube, apparently we don't have the right. That makes no sense.
No, that makes perfect sense. The person who creates a piece of art should have absolute control over it. That seems fair to me. Now, you can argue that it'd be better for the original artist to let some youtube videos slide, and you'd probably be right. But that's not up to you or me to decide; it's up to the artist. And that's how I like it!

Once I recorded a 16th century choral piece (I sang all three parts) and uploaded it to YouTube, and they were pissed about it for "copyright" reasons. They didn't delete the video, but I did get some stupid e-mail telling me that I didn't have the rights to the song, and YouTube would put ads in the video as they saw fit. They had some website to contest the action, so contest I did, and they finally agreed that it was no longer under copyright law.

So yeah, the system is broken.

Once I recorded a 16th century choral piece (I sang all three parts) and uploaded it to YouTube, and they were pissed about it for "copyright" reasons. They didn't delete the video, but I did get some stupid e-mail telling me that I didn't have the rights to the song, and YouTube would put ads in the video as they saw fit. They had some website to contest the action, so contest I did, and they finally agreed that it was no longer under copyright law.

So yeah, the system is broken.
Uh....the story you just told us makes it sound like the system is working pretty well, actually... = \
"They mistakenly said it was under copyright."
"I said it wasn't."
"They admitted they were wrong."

It doesn't really sound like much of a hassle when they're protecting the copyright....rights of all the creators out there. XD

How can a piece of music written in the 1500s be copyrighted? Sounds to me like the system is at least a little bit broken if they're making mistakes like that. Unless he was using a pre-recorded accompaniment preformed by someone else, then I could see that.

I highly doubt the "subject" of this thread. In fact, I think youtube will be, if not already, the next generation television. More viewers have watched the stupid evolution of dance video than any channel that's been up for the same duration of time. Advertising agencies are paying millions to for a 15second ad that youtube puts on before popular videos. These ads are with the approval of the uploader incase people didn't know. I speculate that within the next 10years, Television will become obsolete or just become another form of youtube. I'm guessing it will be a giant database of HD videos that you pick to a play list...oh wait....that already exist. Animes and dramas already upload HD quality full length videos onto youtube. Even funimation has started posting subbed episodes of popular animes on youtube. Not to mention, most of the kids already spend more time on youtube then watching YTV. I don't think online streaming of blue ray quality videos being easily affordable to the general public won't take too much longer. Shaw released its notice that the old warp speed network will become the same price as their current net work (10x current speed) which means 10x higher quality streaming will become available.

I'm starting to blab so I'll just summarize my point: I think youtube is going to be a global network and TV stations will soon be running their programs on youtube as an attempt to grab market shares in the entertainment industry.

How can a piece of music written in the 1500s be copyrighted? Sounds to me like the system is at least a little bit broken if they're making mistakes like that. Unless he was using a pre-recorded accompaniment preformed by someone else, then I could see that.
...That's not the system's fault. That's the idiot who screwed up and mistakenly flagged it as copyrighted material. A bad system would've caused a huge pain in the ass for Alfonso, like having him banned or some shit. All he had to do was tell them "nah, you messed up." And they were like "oh, sorry dog. Have your video back." Seems like it's working fine to me. = \

Also, youtube is number 2, right after Google, on the Alexa Ranking. It's not going anywhere anytime soon, lol.

Youtube is going to die similarly to how Facebook and Twitter are going to die: by not dying. It's been around long enough to be a brand name, which makes it almost impossible to kill. An example of this is Yahoo, which has "died" three times so far.

This user speaks the truth.

YouTube has already died in the future, just as how humans have already become extinct in the future.