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PorscheGTIII
August 15th, 2011, 02:49 am
Hey guys and gals!

So I thought it'd be a good idea to start off with some orchestration and arranging lessons to supplement the periodic theory lessons we have going on these days. To start off these orchestration and arranging lessons, I thought we'd dive straight into an introductory exercise.

This exercise comes from a book I once read called "Techniques of Twentieth Century Composition" by Leon Dallin. In the book's preface, Dallin says that students should be encouraged to do free creative writing in the style that is most natural for them at the moment and in the form and for the medium which most appeals to them. Also, Dallin strongly recommends that expressive aspects in writing be emphasized and should be played with a group of students so all can learn from each others mistakes as well as triumphs. Public performance is key as the full cycle of composition has not been achieved until this has happened. Such an experience teaches more than a world of abstract instruction.

Since we really can't play together live, we can produce some kind of recording with notation software or a sequencer. When someone completes this exercise, we should comment on the pros and cons of the completed exercise.

The first assignment for this introductory chapter is as follows...



Since a knowledge of conventional materials and the ability to handle them effectively serves as a point of departure for the study of more recent idioms, demonstrate that ability by harmonizing the following folk song and chorale melody. Use a conventional style in four parts paying particular attention to the choice of harmony, balance of cadences, flow of harmonic changes, melodic value, spacing, and doubling.

Deficiencies in background will be apparent immediately in this familiar idiom, and they should be remedied before proceeding. The underlying principles involved are equally valid for all styles.

Attached is a template for this exercise. You do not have to use this choice of instrumentation, but you should have one part that carries the melody and four parts harmonizing it. You do not also have to use the original chord progression that goes with this folk song; you are free to harmonize this melody as you see fit.

Let's see what you guys and gals come up with. ;)

cablecar1
August 16th, 2011, 04:42 pm
I'm gonna try this but I'm not sure how to go about harmonizing the parts and I've never actually heard that song before...:\

clarinetist
August 16th, 2011, 05:42 pm
I've made two versions: a "generic" one (using the given instrumentation and simple chording), and a "string" version one.

KaitouKudou
August 16th, 2011, 06:23 pm
I would recommend putting the solo vio up an octave to bring out the melody more and avoid voice crossing. (eg:Bar 4) When you have a solo violin going against an entire strings ensemble, it is very easy to drown out the soloist even if the ensemble plays pizz accompaniment. Bar 11, what is the tied grace note on violin 2 suppose to do?

Just my thoughts:)
kk

PorscheGTIII
August 16th, 2011, 08:34 pm
I'm gonna try this but I'm not sure how to go about harmonizing the parts and I've never actually heard that song before...:\

OK. So what exactly are you unsure about in harmonizing the melody?

clarinetist
August 16th, 2011, 08:38 pm
The grace note was intended for an "octave" effect (I don't know how else to put it), usually used in piano writing. I'm basically making the Vl. II play its A before the Vl. I. I put the first and last parts 8va, and found that the range would be more suited for an oboe.

KaitouKudou
August 17th, 2011, 02:27 am
Here's my arrangement. I'm not sure what the conventional style in the book refers to so I just did it as I see fit.:lol:

Emeraldshine
August 17th, 2011, 11:10 pm
Please pardon the egregious double leading tones in m. 27. :cry:

PorscheGTIII
August 18th, 2011, 01:57 am
Here's my arrangement. I'm not sure what the conventional style in the book refers to so I just did it as I see fit.:lol:

Sounds great! But you're also missing about two measures in the 'B' section of the melody. lol


Please pardon the egregious double leading tones in m. 27. :cry:

lol

Sounds good everyone. Everyone that's posted has a good grasp on harmonizing melodies. We'll continue this introductory lesson a while longer to give other's a chance to post for some feedback then we'll continue with a new topic. ;)

KaitouKudou
August 18th, 2011, 02:02 am
really? NO WONDER IT SOUNDED SO RUSHED TO ME!!

ah well, I contributed lol

cablecar1
August 18th, 2011, 04:57 pm
How did you people get yours done so fast? O.o

PorsheGTIII, The main reason I'm doing this assignment is to get better at arranging and learn some theory, so some links to helpful websites would be nice. I am very much a beginner musician and I don't really have a great grasp on how
to do this. I have cheap notation software and I have never done this before. Help would definitely be appreciated. :D
I see that everyone else here has had more experience in this kind of thing. :/

KaitouKudou
August 18th, 2011, 07:14 pm
http://www.musictheory.net/lessons

I think the lessons of that site should be very helpful to many beginners and provide you with a good start. ^.^

Emeraldshine
August 18th, 2011, 07:58 pm
The single biggest secret to composing (in my not-so-vast experience) is to keep at it! Theory is essential, yes, but until you can get a feel for your own personal style, sticking stuff like secondary dominants into your music will feel forced and unnatural. Just go for it! It may not be that great to start with, but it gets better.

Oh, and my notation software is lame too. Just sayin'. :P

PorscheGTIII
August 19th, 2011, 04:09 pm
How did you people get yours done so fast? O.o

PorsheGTIII, The main reason I'm doing this assignment is to get better at arranging and learn some theory, so some links to helpful websites would be nice. I am very much a beginner musician and I don't really have a great grasp on how
to do this. I have cheap notation software and I have never done this before. Help would definitely be appreciated. :D
I see that everyone else here has had more experience in this kind of thing. :/

Where are you having trouble? If you can tell us that we can better address your question. Are you not sure how to sellect the right chords or are you having trouble dividing the notes between different instruments?

cablecar1
August 20th, 2011, 01:27 am
How do you find the primary chord being used in a measure? That's my main problem. I probably learned it once, but I forgot how.

clarinetist
August 20th, 2011, 01:04 pm
How do you find the primary chord being used in a measure? That's my main problem. I probably learned it once, but I forgot how.

I had a feeling you meant this. You would need to learn some Theory first - if I were to have enough time, I'd continue with the Theory stuff I have started here. Go through intervals and triads first - then follow the syllabus I have up here (http://forums.ichigos.com/showthread.php?811-Composing-General-Chat!&p=478525&viewfull=1#post478525). A text that I would recommend to learn the stuff would be Kostka and Payne's Tonal Harmony, 6th edition - it's quite pricey, but it's probably the best text out there.

Ander
October 20th, 2011, 03:27 am
omg... this just shows how terrible of a person I am... I didn't even know this was going on.... and it was 2 months ago???? I think I've been waaaaaaaaay tooooooooo self-absorbed... I'm sorry D: