View Full Version : Heavy action on piano
kentaku_sama
March 4th, 2012, 02:00 am
I have a kawaii piano and have had it for 4 years and yet, I still haven't gotten used to it's energy draining, terrible heavy action. We told the tuner to fix it and he did but the next day the piano was stiff and heavy once again, it was weird but I got so mad.>:(
The next time we asked him to again but he said "it's pretty light" and I probably need to strengthen my hands and it will be easy to play
but I'm about fed up with this. Our piano is so so difficult and heavy to play and I've played it for four years alot but it still is stiff and it's
only 4 years old! I think there might be something wrong with it because I've noticed that the keys are bouncing up inconsistently and are
very stiff. I can play great on my piano teachers upright but my piano is not fun to play because rather than enjoying music all I get is a
sore, tired forearm and sloppy playing. Anyone else had experience with problems like this? Do I need to strengthen my hands or muscles in a different way than just playing scales and songs? Today I got so upset because I can play this song I transcribed at full speed pretty well except the action is so heavy that I miss notes and have to focus hard to hit the right notes in the right hand due to stiffness so I can't play both hands at all. Any Ideas?
Milchh
March 4th, 2012, 02:35 am
Read this article (http://www.pianofundamentals.com/book/en/1.II.14), I think it'll put you on the right track to where the real problem lies.
kentaku_sama
March 4th, 2012, 04:13 am
Hmm good idea, I haven't thought about that, it's a good link. Thanks ^^
kentaku_sama
March 5th, 2012, 01:27 pm
Ok so I think my piano is just really heavy and I'm playing with too much excess tension so when I play on my teachers, it's so light that I don't notice it. I've noticed the muscle in my forearm is tense on fingers that should be relaxing so I'll have to really try to work on that.
brncao
March 5th, 2012, 05:56 pm
It would help if we knew what model it was. The folks over at PianoWorld may be able to assist you better. It could be by design (flaw?), a defect, or environmental conditions that could've altered the mechanisms inside the piano.
DunNotCome
March 6th, 2012, 09:50 am
There are 3 standard builds for pianos - Light, Medium and heavy action. Each are different in their feel and touch, and have different weights and springs attached to it. Its very probable your piano is a heavy action without you knowing it (Which is good, because its always better to practice on heavy actions rather than lighter ones, so that you make very little or no mistakes in a lower hardness action piano), as years of not using a piano would need some getting used to.
Other factors that may affect the action would be mouldy actions (I believe this may be the cause for extremely heavy actions), or dirt and dust clogging in the mechanism. These causes the action to become (heavier) but could potentially damage the mechanism if it is not repaired when you are using the piano. One indicator of this is that your piano mechanism would have brown edges on the wooden sections of it and you will notice a lot of 'weird' clog-ups of dirt on the hammer action itself. Do ask your piano tuner (Actually you should ask a technician not a tuner) to inspect the action thoroughly, especially the grating between the spring and the transfer catch in the piano.
Theres a lot of other factors as well, like temperature, which affects the spring strength, or loose catches which can cause the mechanism to exhibit "Hardness". These problems are usually rare (Occurring in pianos which are like 20-40 years old??).
Hope this helped :-)
Edit -I tune my own piano u noe what i mean-
Milchh
March 7th, 2012, 03:38 am
There are 3 standard builds for pianos - Light, Medium and heavy action. Each are different in their feel and touch, and have different weights and springs attached to it. Its very probable your piano is a heavy action without you knowing it (Which is good, because its always better to practice on heavy actions rather than lighter ones, so that you make very little or no mistakes in a lower hardness action piano), as years of not using a piano would need some getting used to.
I'm going to have to disagree with you about your "standard" build comment. Never have I heard of piano factories (at least the best ones) talk of making a piano with a specific action in mind. The action of any decently-crafted piano is simply a personal and random result... pianos are like people-- they're all different, and not intended to be something (at least concerning their action). The only "standard" actions in pianos deal with the actual type of mechanism (drop action, direct action and grand action, I believe they're called), in which each of tose are the type of mechanism used in different pianos (grands have their own action mechanism, spinets have theirs, uprights, etc. you see my point).
You said you've had your piano for 4 years... does this mean you bought it used 4 years ago, or that it's 4 years old? Something like that would be very helpful to understand.
If you think your piano is falling flat on it's face when it comes to action, it could just possibly be worn out. However, you made the comment that the tuner himself said the action was pretty light, and that you just need to strengthen your fingers. The more I think about this, the more I believe that the problem lies within your technique (or lack thereof) and that you should focus on that instead. Ask you piano teacher about relaxing while playing, and also ask him (or her) about finger/knuckle bridge strength exercises. When your fingers and knuckle bridge are strong and dexterous, combined with a relaxed hand/arm/shoulders/etc. then no piano action will be heavy.
Like I said, I'm fairly certain that you should look inward instead of blaming the piano. After-all, it was Rubinstein who said it best, "There is no such thing as bad pianos-- only bad pianists."
P.S. I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just trying to show you another (very plausible) possibility. :)
aaliasmith
May 10th, 2012, 11:56 am
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