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Jujemu
December 22nd, 2004, 09:24 pm
We identify ourselves with the body and mind. However, when we say "my body" or "my mind", who is the possessor?

Nightmare
December 22nd, 2004, 09:36 pm
Without a mind, a body doesn't work. However, at least to religious beliefs, without a body the mind can still work. So its the mind.

Jujemu
December 22nd, 2004, 09:53 pm
What does "my" in "my mind" refer to then?

By saying "my mind", one claims possession over the mind. If the body is controlled by the mind, and the mind is possessed by something (my mind), just what is the possessor - who are you really?

[edit] spelling =_=

kariekh
December 22nd, 2004, 10:12 pm
I am no other but myself or in other words me.

Sephiroth
December 22nd, 2004, 10:16 pm
ahhh but in religious sense it is neither.........both body and mind can be active but nobody home hence people ina coma or in a state of being like a vegetable as some put it.............it is the soul......without the soul neither can work....they'd exist but nothing able to work

Sondagger
December 22nd, 2004, 10:20 pm
What Sephrioth said. I believe your spirit/soul controls your mind and body. If your spirit isn't there then nothing works. Your mind nor you body.

It hard to explain.

Noir7
December 22nd, 2004, 10:25 pm
Who am I? I'm Spiderman. :eat:

Jujemu
December 22nd, 2004, 10:36 pm
^ ah, cool! A straight answer. :P

Soul and spirit denote different things. The soul refers to the mind, intellect, or psyche. Spirit is separate from the psyche and body.. perhaps we are talking about the spirit then. ^.^

Are you, the possessor, the spirit? If so, what is the spirit, eh?

kariekh
December 22nd, 2004, 10:53 pm
Who me?Was I the one who gave a straight answer?

Eternal
December 22nd, 2004, 11:45 pm
I am Eternal!
Hi! Nice To Meet U! XD

Jujemu
December 23rd, 2004, 06:22 am
@ Eternal: Ah, it's nice to meet you too, Eternal. :neko:

@ Kariekh: Well I suppose that was a straight answer, yes? You are you, are you not? :)

Alone
December 23rd, 2004, 11:28 am
I am I. I would still be the same if I had a different body, because my personality would remain. However, if my character changes, then I disappear, and a different me takes my place

->

the mind/soul

Roy Mustang
December 23rd, 2004, 11:33 am
In the end we all are who we are, no matter how much we may appear to have changed.

Kou
December 23rd, 2004, 01:05 pm
Me? wow.. you actually noticed me.. never mind me, I'm just a figment of your imagination (or a fault in the forum script)

Eternal
December 23rd, 2004, 04:21 pm
really Kou?
wow you must have been really well programmed to have such sense of humor!
XD XD XD

PFT_Shadow
December 23rd, 2004, 05:23 pm
i dont know who i am, as i cannot define me, only other people can define me, for that is the only way in which i exist, through the perseption of others.

Am i me, or am i a soul. Ask me again when im dead, i should know by then ^_^

Dark Bring
December 23rd, 2004, 05:47 pm
Look at me what do you see?
Am I real or just a dream?
Am I something that you need?
Or just an image of me?

Kou
December 24th, 2004, 07:12 am
Originally posted by Eternal@Dec 24 2004, 06:21 AM
really Kou?
wow you must have been really well programmed to have such sense of humor!
XD XD XD
Welcome to IPB spammer type 406a, it will post everyday while staying on track of the topic most of the time and if the "turbo" option is enabled, will manage to spam the whole forum with useless knowledge

Hit ANY key to continue...
(where's the ANY key? XD)

Jujemu
December 27th, 2004, 12:06 am
Originally posted by PFT_Shadow@Dec 24 2004, 03:23 AM
i dont know who i am, as i cannot define me, only other people can define me, for that is the only way in which i exist, through the perseption of others.

Am i me, or am i a soul. Ask me again when im dead, i should know by then ^_^
okay, back on track. ^_^

PFT, that sounds vaguely reminiscent of Eva.. although, y'know, Shinji and all eventually discarded those understandings for more mature self-knowing.

[edit] fixed grammar a bit

kquietude
December 29th, 2004, 01:53 am
the higher-level thinking, aka consciousness, that arises from the grey matter in your skull, + the experience & memories that shape it ? But it's no use wondering; it's one of those qns where there will never be an answer that can satisfy everyone. :P

flamegirl
December 29th, 2004, 02:48 am
without a mind, we cannot think

without a soul, we have a empty shell

Jujemu
December 29th, 2004, 03:20 am
Originally posted by flamegirl@Dec 28 2004, 07:48 PM
without a mind, we cannot think

without a soul, we have a empty shell
This is what I'm talking about.

We is not the mind, it is not the soul, and it is not an empty shell; We possesses these things.

Who is we?

PFT_Shadow
December 29th, 2004, 09:23 am
we are are a set of complex biological comuters, her to self replicate, survie and eventually destroy ourselves as with every living thing on this planet

Phenix
December 30th, 2004, 08:45 pm
The worst point about being sentient (sp?) is that we think and delve into what we cannot fathom.

The minds itself is a matrix of ideas and perceptions, the only way in theroy to totaly remove a person is if every single perception of a person fades, what they are, what they did, what they looked like, voice, eyes, feelings the lot(thought digital data is another matter altogether).

As for the soul...some one once said to me quite a while ago:
"The body is only a spacesuit"

If we are just extremly complex programs then can some one tell me what the serial code of the operating system is, I think its a beta test.

RD
May 24th, 2005, 01:15 am
neither. but i charish my mind more. with out any of them, none work. the brain is your mind, but the brain is your body, so none.


I love to resurect old threads!

an-kun
May 24th, 2005, 11:54 am
you can't really know what you are or who you are. The brain just consists of nerves which are highly specialised. Because the brain is built up by nerves, we could just be programmed to think in a certain way. And besides, what is thinking?

(I havn't bothered to scroll back to see other's views on this so sorry if someone's already said all this)

Itachi Uchiha
May 24th, 2005, 12:02 pm
O.o i'm lost, so i'll just agree with every thing PFT shadows said lol, i htink its quite true

Dragonicsoul
June 1st, 2005, 03:51 pm
You are asking us who we are. I can only answer that I am a wandering soul with one destination and that is to reunite with my true form

JcKaji2
June 1st, 2005, 05:30 pm
i am who i am , i don't posses "my body" or "my mind" , i'm all that :D (i don't include the soul because i don't believe in it :unsure: )

^_^

toki
June 1st, 2005, 10:31 pm
no idea :think:

crackthesky
June 5th, 2005, 01:35 am
im a piece of meat provided with the concept of thought

Alfonso de Sabio
June 8th, 2005, 12:50 pm
To quote Monty Python:

"I drink; therefore, I am."

Sashiro
June 8th, 2005, 12:53 pm
Originally posted by Noir7@Dec 22 2004, 07:25 PM
Who am I? I'm Spiderman. :eat:
Rofl.
I'm...Aquaman! :shifty:
That's just not as good, is it? ._.

PFT_Shadow
June 8th, 2005, 01:07 pm
i am the me in your mind, the me seen by you and given depth by your mind, i am not the me thatothers know. Only you can know me.

that good enough? ^_^

shade
June 12th, 2005, 04:15 am
im not somone, im two ppl. this really sucks. sometimes it doesnt. i got to stop doing this. any advice? i dont need advice. shut up u! *both freaked out by both*

AsianSensation_wow
June 12th, 2005, 04:35 am
i am not what you see, but what you feel,
and what you feel, is but what you know, is true, i am me.

shade
June 12th, 2005, 04:36 am
....
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....
....
....
eh?

AsianSensation_wow
June 12th, 2005, 04:41 am
not a clue. i just made that up in like 2 seconds... ^_^

Sukate
July 2nd, 2005, 07:35 am
I'm a Ruronen with not one to surve and no cause in life... .... why am I still here? :cry:

see ya later

prodigyviolin101
July 20th, 2005, 12:57 am
i don't really understand the question,or concept of this thread, please explain

an-kun
July 20th, 2005, 10:46 am
Q: Is this a question?

A: Is this an answer?

Nuff said.

Darksaget_the_3rd
July 21st, 2005, 04:57 am
I am what you think I am so there for I am

DiamondSeraph
October 29th, 2005, 11:08 pm
I am the conceptual thoughts that float and emanate from a treasure chest called "mind" I am what is compelled to move through a distinct perception holding inferred morality at it's side. I am a soul that inhabits a vessel.

stormchild13
October 30th, 2005, 07:29 am
though i'd say essence of life, ur personality, or someting like that like a spirit or soul, i mean ur mind can still function, but u arn't awake as such and moving. ur body can still function but in effect u r dead.

M
November 2nd, 2005, 03:10 am
Another awsome topic about existance by Jujemu. I'll try my best at this one.

I am the question of being.
I am the decisiveness to determine self-constraints upon the general consensus of the public.
I am the potential to become the slanted views of sociocultural interaction.
I am a being of complex thought.
I am a puppet whom others control, yet I am the puppet master controling myself.
I am a dream of what is to be, and how to be
I am the truth and the lie of life.
I am happy and sadness meshed together.
I am grey, never defined, but able to be distinguished amungst different shades.
I am intensity, and complacency.
I am a person whom is constantly being labled as a taboo of being (damn lolita complex issue!)
I am the night and day, forever to rise and fall; constantly battling and balancing between the two.
I am me...

I am not some subset unit of a higher network of subconcious.
I am not a falsified truth of individualism.
I am not the will of others.
I am not a leader, nor am I a follower, nor a spectator.

I am connected, yet seperated from the rest; a clone segregated(sp?) amungst the rest.
I exist. No more. No less.

TheIshter
November 7th, 2005, 12:22 am
i am a matter with feelings and a mind that lacks knowledge

Toshihiko
November 7th, 2005, 12:28 am
I am substance in entropy. To say the least I like everyone else am infinite potential. Though I may have changed in the past years I'm still what I always have been, someone alone that fell into the grace of an angel. ^_^

angrybeaver101
November 7th, 2005, 04:57 am
i am the abnormal, self reprimanding, unobtrusive ,playstation-messiah, who always unconsciously finds a way to deviate from the natural consensus. :)

i_lovelove_sugar
November 8th, 2005, 01:56 am
I am she who lives her life with meaning and purpose.
I am she who has nothing to fear.
I am she who can wake up in the morning thinking about a shower and breakfast, not wondering why she should even get up. (Unless it's a Monday.)
I am she who enjoys the world she has been given and the life with which she will experience it.
And I am she who will not waste that gift.

X
November 8th, 2005, 05:38 am
I care about what people think of me but even more so I worry about what I think of myself.

frozen_shadow
November 8th, 2005, 09:54 am
i am a writer who needs inspiration

mystery_editor
November 8th, 2005, 09:58 am
A compassionate fool

Neerolyte
November 9th, 2005, 05:21 am
I am who you might think a cocky bastard, but to me I'm just lucky XD

shibahime
November 22nd, 2005, 10:57 pm
I dont kno who the posseser is but sometimes the posseser is standing right by us and yet we can not see them

CODMAN
November 22nd, 2005, 11:05 pm
who came first, the chicken or the egg?

Ittoshi
November 23rd, 2005, 02:12 am
I am..in essence Curiosity, itself. ^_^

TheIshter
November 23rd, 2005, 03:14 am
an energy cosuming, homo sapien, who wants world peace.

crackthesky
November 29th, 2005, 07:38 pm
basically, im a piece of meat that can think.

theviolinist
November 29th, 2005, 10:13 pm
I agree with the muffinmaster. but then are WE really anything special. Then doesn't this almost say we are no better then animals animals can think and I wouldn't be amazed if they think more then some or all humans. Yeah I like that Idea.:lol:

And Muffinmaster I like your set.

X
December 2nd, 2005, 03:34 pm
Hmm I am complicated.....but it keeps things interesting.....

toki
February 22nd, 2006, 01:49 am
i am a hungry, bored, sleepy, good lookin and single ( ;) ) young man who is singing nursery rhymes to the person sitting next to me with a calculator

Shizeet
February 22nd, 2006, 09:34 am
A helpless procrastinator that still hasn't made any progress on his coursework in the last five hours ;).

SilverDeath
February 22nd, 2006, 09:50 pm
a very bored teenaged boy who has difficulty being agrreable with the all knowing always right, adults who run my life

tourist
February 23rd, 2006, 10:02 am
An enigmatic ninja who wonders the Outworld fueled by his hatred towards the Lin Kuei warrior, Sub-Zero. I have no allegiance, neither to Shao Kahn or the Earth.







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