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badgerglue
January 16th, 2005, 04:37 am
im new to this site and i wanted to say this is a really cool website!!!!!! :D
anyways i hope its ok that i made my first composition on finale note pad2002.


i really dont know how good of a composer i am so plz give me advise and go easy on the song.

Nightmare
January 17th, 2005, 03:58 am
Welcome to ichigos then! For your composition, you really need to develope a melody. I can't see any melody in this song, and it also seems to have almost no change. Next, work on your chords. This is EXTREMELY important, and about none of your chords seem to come even remotely close with matching your notes.

Though this is your first composition, I'll still rate it, but only so you can see the change in ratings as your compositions progress. I rate it a 4/10 due to the lack of melody, use of chords, and repetition.

Keep composing, pratice hard, and you'll be fine!

Al
January 17th, 2005, 11:19 am
You don't have a midi version? Ah well . .

badgerglue
January 17th, 2005, 08:33 pm
Yah thx for the advise ill think of those topics more when i write my next song that i am making right now.

And im sry but right now i dont have midi program but i downloaded 2005 so atleast i have that. Ill be geting the full version later. :rolleyes:

badgerglue
January 17th, 2005, 08:47 pm
Well.......This is the second song i made. Dont know if its better though. :unsure:

Atleast i tryed

badgerglue
January 17th, 2005, 10:50 pm
yay!!! I made another one

Here it is.

badgerglue
January 20th, 2005, 12:17 am
this is the newest song i made and i think its cool.

Can i ask a favor from some1. plz. take these songs and turn them into midi till i get the full verson of finale notepad :unsure:

Sir_Dotdotdot
January 21st, 2005, 12:36 am
um... I know I am not such a professional musician/judge or whatever... But I can tell that a lot of your songs does not have a melody. Also, your harmony is off, an advise to that is to remember the chord of the note that you are harmonizing... Also try to get some dynamics (even though I know that the Finale Notepad is really bad at that...).

But as I said, I am not a pro... So you can take my advice at your own risk :heh: ... Continue to try to improve your compositions in the future.

Aeila
January 21st, 2005, 12:58 am
I find your work okay.

on a whole, i think your alright. I think you're trying to hard to be complicated...go back to the basics of melody.

Aeila
January 21st, 2005, 01:01 am
yes, your best song is definately "my favorite song so far." I like it.

"proud" - 2/10
"my favorite song so far" - 7/10
"this is a cool song" 5/10
"no name" 6/10

cheers! keep working, you have greta potential!

badgerglue
January 21st, 2005, 07:14 pm
thx everybody for the suggestions. ill try to improve on the melody and the chords

To tell you the truth i play the violin so there is not that many chords in it. but i like using the piano. its just easier. :D

badgerglue
January 21st, 2005, 09:36 pm
ok i just got the midi version of finale so all of u can listen

Aeila
January 21st, 2005, 09:55 pm
How did you do that? I want to do that...

badgerglue
January 21st, 2005, 10:11 pm
well all i did was buy the full version of finale notepad 2005.

I didnt want to buy it because i just could download it <_< but thats how u get midi on finale.

Aeila
January 21st, 2005, 10:57 pm
oh... ^_^ :heh: :/ :whistle:

badgerglue
January 21st, 2005, 11:18 pm
Aeila i was thinking about what u said about trying to make my songs too complicated. and so i put this song together.

Its not very long though. Hope u like. ^_^

Aeila
January 21st, 2005, 11:51 pm
oh good&#33; Wow. This is a huge improvement&#33;

Ver good song. Definately your best work.

Keep it up&#33;

badgerglue
January 22nd, 2005, 02:44 am
well i dont think this song is very good but im going to post it just to see

what you guys think of it :unsure:

Aeila
January 22nd, 2005, 02:52 am
hmm. Interesting. You don&#39;t like it? I really like it. 8/10. Your other piece is also 8/10 rating from me. You&#39;re truly making good improvements. THe arrangments for "Life" is wonderful with the synthesizers.

I love the tranquility and flowing sernity of the song, and how you brought it out with the synthesizer and then bringing in the piano after the synthesizers solo was sheer brilliance. The oboe is well constructed melody as well, and the chord progression is beautifully haunting witht he synthesizer.

Keep up the good work. I&#39;m looking forward to your next composition.

If you want some constructive critisicm, then here it is:

Both songs were great, however no particular melodic flow was approached iin the song. However, I like this about your songs. It makes them very interesting.

Good Work&#33; ;)

badgerglue
January 22nd, 2005, 02:53 am
wow&#33;&#33;&#33; thx :D

i donno what i was thinkin

Aeila
January 22nd, 2005, 02:58 am
your welcome ^_^

badgerglue
January 22nd, 2005, 03:10 am
to tell you the truth i have lots of songs that dont have a melody but there really cool. But i didnt post them couse when i joined on this site ppl were saying that they wouldnt be good because they have no melody. But since you said that wat you like about my songs do u want to hear them?

Aeila
January 22nd, 2005, 03:11 am
indeed.

I think people should have an open mind. there is no such thing as a song that has no melody. Whether the melody is good or not is a different story.

Okay&#33;

badgerglue
January 22nd, 2005, 03:16 am
ok cool

here they are

hope u like them
i have a question is there a way to put 2 file attatchments on one post?

badgerglue
January 22nd, 2005, 03:17 am
heres the other one

Aeila
January 22nd, 2005, 03:22 am
Wow. How cool. However, they are not your best work, but still very good and interesting.

I give both 7/10. Try not to be backtracked and go back to complicated stuff and think it&#39;ll be amazing. Its good, but your best work is the simplier style you appraoch. Its really nice.

My favorite piece yo have done so far: "Life."
Great piece. I stil think its an 8/10. It grows on me.

badgerglue
January 22nd, 2005, 03:26 am
lol and thats the one i thought wasnt that good. :lol:

Aeila
January 22nd, 2005, 03:28 am
^_^

badgerglue
January 22nd, 2005, 03:36 am
anyways.....you have been telling me how good mine are so im going to tell you what i think about yours

i like "on the other side best". I like the violin you have in that peice cause basicly makes the beat and the chords really fit with the song.and i play the violin so. yah

and another thing i like about your songs is that you added words. i never really thought about adding words too my songs.i think its cool.

o man i should of put this on your thread. o well its typed out on this one so whatever.

Aeila
January 22nd, 2005, 03:48 am
thank you, baderglue. that is very nice of you to comment.

constructive criticsm s most welcome.

yellowmonkey121
January 22nd, 2005, 09:04 am
im sorry.. but am i missing something? or is Aeila being too nice? i believe melody is one of the most important thing that gives bloom to music. i mean... dont you hum songs that you like when you listen to it? :whistle: im not trying to be mean or anything but you really have to come up with a nice melody. why do you think everytime we listen to mozart, beethoven or even uematsu&#39;s pieces we recognize it right away? its because they came up with great melodies that captures our attentions. however i have to say that you did improve on the chords part. so.... yea.. thats all i gotta say. oh and i think badgerglue is very young... same goes for Aeila. :sweatdrop:

Aeila
January 22nd, 2005, 02:27 pm
&#33;&#33;&#33;

I am not young. I am 15, pardon you. And no, I&#39;m not trying to be too nice.

badgerglue
January 22nd, 2005, 03:38 pm
im 15 too

badgerglue
January 22nd, 2005, 03:40 pm
how old are u yellow monkey

Aeila
January 22nd, 2005, 03:51 pm
i would like to know too. ^_^

badgerglue
January 22nd, 2005, 04:58 pm
wouldnt that be funny if yellow monkey was younger than us :lol:

Aeila
January 22nd, 2005, 05:05 pm
if he is, thts alright. His music is awesome, so age doesn&#39;t matter to me. ^_^

badgerglue
January 22nd, 2005, 05:19 pm
i dont know why but i cant seem to find a good melody.

ive tryed listining to songs by other composers but i still cant find one. <_<
i donno what to do to find a good one.

Aeila
January 22nd, 2005, 05:29 pm
listen to Bjork&#39;s "Bachelorette." When she begins to sing, the melody there is haunting, and the string arrangement is beautiful.

Enjoy.

Meer
January 22nd, 2005, 05:31 pm
Have you guys bothered to check his profile? -_-

Aeila
January 22nd, 2005, 05:32 pm
well, his age does not matter to me. his music does.

badgerglue
January 22nd, 2005, 05:39 pm
i think i found a melody. and aeila its almost like the life song u like it has a sinthisizer in it its not done yet but its geting there.

Aeila
January 22nd, 2005, 05:41 pm
awesome ;)

i look forward to it.

badgerglue
January 22nd, 2005, 06:03 pm
ok its done. i really think you all will like this one.

cause i sure do. :D

badgerglue
January 22nd, 2005, 06:08 pm
Sarkurah. i Wanna know what you think about the song "eerie feeling"

Aeila
January 22nd, 2005, 06:08 pm
very interesting&#33;&#33; I like the whole piano/synthesizers counter melody thing going on. I like it alot.

8/10

Now if I were really picky, I would say the beginning is great and so is the middle, but after that its a little repetitive.

Overall, I see improvements soaring out of you. ^_^

Aeila
January 22nd, 2005, 06:12 pm
^_^

badgerglue
January 22nd, 2005, 06:14 pm
thx.

Do u think it has a melody? :unsure:

Aeila
January 22nd, 2005, 06:14 pm
yes i do

badgerglue
January 22nd, 2005, 06:23 pm
ok i made some changes to the end of it so i hope you like it

Aeila
January 22nd, 2005, 06:26 pm
Wow excellent&#33; I like the way you make variations of the lovely melody.

Improvent - 8.7/10.

You&#39;re starting to get real good&#33; ^_^

badgerglue
January 22nd, 2005, 06:31 pm
thank you very much

o and i want to see what other ppl think about them not just aeila.

So everybody feal free to give me suggestions and ratings.
thx for all your positive ratings aeila. Keep saying them they make me do alittle better. but i bet i would do even better than that if everybody told me how they feal

Aeila
January 22nd, 2005, 06:43 pm
oh okaie then ^_^

:sweatdrop: sorry

badgerglue
January 22nd, 2005, 06:46 pm
theres nothing to be sorry about. What i was saying is that all the other ppl dont replie. but i like your replies so keep it up

Aeila
January 22nd, 2005, 06:48 pm
^_^ glad to

^.^

badgerglue
January 22nd, 2005, 07:05 pm
which song do u like the best?

Aeila
January 22nd, 2005, 07:32 pm
Well, I still really like "Life," but my favorite is definately "Eerie feeling", the immrpoved version.

I really am fond of your work, banderglue. I look forward to your next composition&#33; ^_^

yellowmonkey121
January 22nd, 2005, 10:07 pm
repetitive is okay in eerie feeling since you finally got some melody going on. just keep practice on the melody and chords and you will do fine. but i say work more on melody.

badgerglue
January 22nd, 2005, 11:02 pm
thx yellow monkey im really trying
and i will keep trying

Aeila
January 22nd, 2005, 11:05 pm
baderglue if you want to hear a song with no particularly appealing melody in it, in my composition thread I posted a new midi called Pitch Black. ^_^

badgerglue
January 22nd, 2005, 11:06 pm
k cool ill look

badgerglue
January 22nd, 2005, 11:33 pm
well i started this song and i dont know if i should continue with it or not
here is the start u tell me

Aeila
January 22nd, 2005, 11:41 pm
oh please do continue. Its an intriguing track.

Noir7
January 22nd, 2005, 11:42 pm
It depends on how serious your composing is. If you&#39;re messing around and doing some test-songs, then yeah. If you&#39;re looking for great feedback and something in that area, then no. It&#39;s clear that you&#39;ve put up random notes, which isn&#39;t appealing to many people. I also don&#39;t see a possible continuation on it, but you might.. I don&#39;t know =P

Aeila
January 22nd, 2005, 11:44 pm
i made the second one to show badderlgue ehat everyone means by a specific melody. and Dark Aura is just a screwed up version of the original composition.

:( "sigh* Do you know if there&#39;s anywya I can post Mp3s here and make them work?

And yes, they were a bunch of random notes in the key of A minor. ^_^

badgerglue
January 22nd, 2005, 11:50 pm
well i dont know but i bet some1 else would :sweatdrop:

badgerglue
January 22nd, 2005, 11:53 pm
well noir the reason i stoped was cause it is hard to continue. and i want good feedback so i dont think im going to continue with it.

And i just randamly clicked ^_^ :lol:

Noir7
January 22nd, 2005, 11:56 pm
Smart people make smart decisions - good for you. :)

badgerglue
January 23rd, 2005, 12:13 am
noir what do u think of my song eerie feeling.

and you dont have to tell me i know its a little repeditive

badgerglue
January 23rd, 2005, 12:40 am
ok this song i made a long time ago its very intressting and not really supposted to be good so say all the bad things u want about it :D

Meer
January 23rd, 2005, 01:22 am
You can always edit your posts without attatchments to add the attatchment and comment.
Btw, why did you want my comment?

E-
Sarkurah. i Wanna know what you think about the song "eerie feeling"

Okay, well it gets off pretty slow at the beggining and just keeps going like that until the end? You sort&#39;ve got the "Eerie feeling" thing going, but god. That was pretty boring. X_X Was there suppose to something playing in the back? ;)

badgerglue
January 23rd, 2005, 01:53 am
i donno well i just though it wouldnt hurt to ask what u think about it
ok thanks for telling me about the attatchment comment

im not sure what you mean about the question
and yes there was supposed to be something in the back.

badgerglue
January 23rd, 2005, 01:58 am
ok this is a really short song but its ok so enjoy

Meer
January 23rd, 2005, 12:16 pm
Didn&#39;t I just tell you that you could edit your post with the attatchment and comment &#39;bout the composition?

badgerglue
January 23rd, 2005, 03:53 pm
o im sry i forgot about that ill get that right sometime

really sry :sweatdrop:

badgerglue
January 23rd, 2005, 04:56 pm
this song im going to let you guys listen to would be way way better if i could have dynamics but finales not good at that so sry but here it is

enjoy

Aeila
January 23rd, 2005, 05:13 pm
its interesting. I like it alot.

the constant ticking should be traded in place with a bass drum and a snare to make a cool beat and the song would be awesome. ^_^

badgerglue
January 23rd, 2005, 05:16 pm
mabye

THat would take a long time though cause you cant change insterments in the middle of the song so i would have to start a new one and mass edit all of the parts in the song. and put them on the other song. <_<

Aeila
January 23rd, 2005, 05:27 pm
ya that sucks :heh:

badgerglue
January 23rd, 2005, 05:51 pm
well i tried to do the first page how you told me too and sry but it didnt sound as good as it did before. because on of the notes i have on the mallets is that stupied bird noise which doesnt fit the song at all.

but thanks for the advise though

Aeila
January 23rd, 2005, 06:51 pm
^_^ oh okay

badgerglue
January 24th, 2005, 07:46 pm
i want you guys to rate me as a composer over all plz.

Aeila
January 24th, 2005, 07:57 pm
great&#33; 8.5/10 in my opinion. ^_^

badgerglue
January 24th, 2005, 08:00 pm
thx :D

Aeila
January 24th, 2005, 08:02 pm
^_^ your welcome baderglue. Its been a pleasure to listen to your work. :)

badgerglue
January 24th, 2005, 08:51 pm
well im working on another song but its really hard to write has a beat with drums and mallets and a piano. man i hope this turns out alright when im finished

Aeila
January 24th, 2005, 08:51 pm
cool looking forward too it. ^_^

badgerglue
January 24th, 2005, 09:16 pm
ok this song i made is really cool too me. it might not be too some of you guys but im proud of myself so thats what really counts.

enjoy :D

Aeila
January 24th, 2005, 09:25 pm
its cool, but not your absolute best. Its pretty good, though.

7/10. ^_^

Virtuoso
January 24th, 2005, 09:27 pm
umm its good but a little too crowded no busy in the begining but it was allright not your best work but it was good If you practice and work with the drums a little you might beable to find what works and what doesn&#39;t work for you.
your friend,
Virtuoso

badgerglue
January 24th, 2005, 09:29 pm
thx guys&#33;

do you guys think i should stay with my mysterious song style or start using drums alot more? :sweatdrop:

Aeila
January 24th, 2005, 09:30 pm
combine the two elements together to make something very interesting ^_^

badgerglue
January 24th, 2005, 09:36 pm
never hurts to try :shifty:

Aeila
January 24th, 2005, 09:37 pm
By the way I Will be there&#39;s midi is complete. You can listen to it now. You may get a sense of what everyone means by melody. ^_^

badgerglue
January 24th, 2005, 10:03 pm
ok this is really weird finale is acting wierd. i put notes in an on 4/4 time and i could put more beats than 4 on 1 measure.

:cry: :crybaby:
i payed money for this

Aeila
January 24th, 2005, 10:08 pm
:o Finale, how dare you&#33; *knocks some sense into Finale*

There we go. ^_^

badgerglue
January 24th, 2005, 11:38 pm
ok im going to be mean and put only a sample of my next song to make you guys wonder what will and can happen in it. :D

here is the sample

Aeila
January 24th, 2005, 11:46 pm
whoa thats so cool&#33; :o really, thats the best ten seconds you ever composed&#33;


:o ^_^

badgerglue
January 25th, 2005, 12:03 am
ok here is the final version of the song

badgerglue
January 25th, 2005, 12:04 am
you will love the full version

Aeila
January 25th, 2005, 12:05 am
wow coolness&#33; Your best work&#33; 9.3/10

badgerglue
January 25th, 2005, 12:09 am
awesome&#33; i love the beat but man was that hard to make :D
well i guess the harder you work the better you get right ^_^

you were right combind the two styles i have tried thx alot ^_^

o and i fixed finale too so its working now.the options were changed so i had to change them again.

badgerglue
January 25th, 2005, 12:14 am
dang its not 5 insterments. i wanted to put it into that compotition <_<

Aeila
January 25th, 2005, 12:17 am
lol now i have NO competition. :lol:

badgerglue
January 25th, 2005, 12:43 am
aeila i was wondering if you could rate all of my finished songs in order to see how and when i got better plz.

if its not too much to ask. :unsure:
up too you though.

never mind you rated them on the way so i will just look through. :lol:

well i just made a few modifications to this song so if you want to hear it here it is

badgerglue
January 27th, 2005, 02:05 am
ok i like cannot think of anything for a song right now. this sucks :nosebleed:

Noir7
January 27th, 2005, 12:02 pm
Actually, that&#39;s good =] That means that maybe you&#39;re leaving the ideas of bad songs, and the beginning of new, better songs to come up.

badgerglue
January 27th, 2005, 07:28 pm
ok ill keep that in mind ^_^

Aeila
January 27th, 2005, 08:33 pm
Originally posted by Noir7@Jan 27 2005, 01:02 PM
Actually, that&#39;s good =] That means that maybe you&#39;re leaving the ideas of bad songs, and the beginning of new, better songs to come up.
...no, not neccessarily. Maybe he ran out of ideas and is going to explore his creative junctions to become a better or worst composer. ^_^

badgerglue
January 27th, 2005, 08:42 pm
not to be rude aeila but the only thing you said different than him was the word worse. well basicly the same.

badgerglue
January 28th, 2005, 10:29 pm
well i havent been able to think of anything on my songs but i finaly got an idea.
i dont really know what to think about it but i hope you like it. ^_^

Aeila
January 28th, 2005, 11:35 pm
that sounds an awful like "I Will be There," yet it has a unique style that I really love. One of your better works for sure. Okay I have a stupid quesiton.

Baderglue, can you make an organized list of all your songs in you rnext post as if you were to release a CD of yuor songs. I think It would be cool to see a BADERGLUE tracklisting. :heh:

EDIT: I made it:

1. The Cool Song
2. Untitled
3. Proud
4. Favorite Song
5. Never Think of a Name
6. Life
7. Interesting
8. Still Can&#39;t Think of a Name
9. Eerie Feeling
10. Reunited
11. Weird Song
12. Short Song
13. Good Beat
14. First Song with Good Beat
15. Happy (really good, by the way&#33;)

:lol:

badgerglue
January 28th, 2005, 11:56 pm
:lol: i guess you already made it so i dont have too.

badgerglue
February 6th, 2005, 04:30 pm
this is my newest song. after a long period of no ideas

and im not that sure if it would count as a duet you tell me. cause i want to put it in the febuary composition

badgerglue
February 8th, 2005, 01:34 am
ok this is my newest song.

and i want some more ratings and suggestions than i have been getting. plz
but i hope u enjoy it

Al
February 8th, 2005, 07:33 pm
suprise: Why is it named that? It doesn&#39;t sound surprising to me, like, nothing that&#39;ll give me a startle, if that&#39;s what you meant . . anyways, I&#39;m not too fond of your choice of harmony/chords, but that&#39;s just me. Your piece also could use a sense of form and direction, you know, a reason to get from point A to B.

badgerglue
February 8th, 2005, 07:51 pm
well al i really couldnt think of a name so i just picked something :lol:

and thanks for the advise ill try to keep that in mind for my next song. ^_^

i also changed the name

badgerglue
February 20th, 2005, 10:50 pm
well im in flordia right now and i wrote a song on finale that i downloaded. so i cant change it into midi yet be i will l8r.

Matt
February 21st, 2005, 01:39 pm
To say the truth, I don&#39;t really like it :/ It doesn&#39;t has any direction or solid form. The lefthand is repetitive and sounds really wrong at some parts. But don&#39;t worry, those kinds of mistakes are normal when you just started composing (you don&#39;t want to see my first ones XD) . Sorry if I offended you with my comment, please take it as constructive critism. :)

badgerglue
March 14th, 2005, 07:22 pm
o its ok no offence taken.

badgerglue
March 15th, 2005, 12:31 am
A new song i made.

I think its good but you guy probably wont. I dont know.

Edit: Sry for all who already listened to it but i made a better version

badgerglue
March 15th, 2005, 08:43 pm
I dont really know what i was thinking when i made this but i think it turned out pritty cool

Indigo
March 15th, 2005, 11:13 pm
Whoa&#33; :blink:
What an improvement&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; I like your mysterious writing style. its so unique.
At first i was like :/ but now im like :blink: shocked how much youve improved....i jus wish i could write good :doh: ...lol oh well hopefully i&#39;ll get better. Practice makes perfect&#33; ^.^

ONLYHUM3N
March 15th, 2005, 11:54 pm
hi im new :D

ONLYHUM3N
March 15th, 2005, 11:58 pm
how do u put on those cool pic. :crybaby:

badgerglue
March 16th, 2005, 12:20 am
[QUOTE]how do u put on those cool pic. [QUOTE]
:lol: ive been on this site for a long time and i still dont know how to us the quotes right


What are u talking about? O avatars. Go up to the top of this site and click on my controls. Then on the left there will be Thing that says edit avatars. U will have to find one of the internet though.

Thx alot indigo. Om yah i have been composing for a while now and im still not very good at it but u get better the more u do. Like the song quest is 100x more better than my first song. Dont worry u will get better.

yellowmonkey121
March 16th, 2005, 12:55 am
What an improvement&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

i agree. the quest had an excellent beginning. it seems like you got little impatient later on but i do that sometimes too. im glad that you arent giving up in composing. who knows.. one day you will be a very good composer. until then keep practicing. i&#39;d give 6/10. i still think you need a better melody and chords

badgerglue
March 16th, 2005, 01:00 am
thx yellow monkey

I wanna make game music some day but its hard to make it with a downloaded version of finale note pad. And the full version is alot of money

ONLYHUM3N
March 16th, 2005, 07:29 pm
thax baggerglue :heh:

ONLYHUM3N
March 16th, 2005, 07:48 pm
and baggerglue i know who u r do u know who i am :nosebleed:

badgerglue
March 16th, 2005, 07:55 pm
yes i do.

badgerglue
March 16th, 2005, 07:58 pm
well next year im taking music theory so mabye ill get better from that

ONLYHUM3N
March 16th, 2005, 08:38 pm
baggerglue im going on live

badgerglue
March 16th, 2005, 09:13 pm
ok, this song is my first acually long song and i think it is pretty good.
But you might want to turn your volume down cause it gets pretty high at one part. Sry.

I like it when ppl tell me if my songs are good or bad i want ppl to tell me how they feal about it. plz

This song is another quest like song its named quest 2. The song is boring at the begining but it gets better. so plz dont turn it off before its done

Also wish me luck tommoro im going to play the violin at the capital building of PA&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

badgerglue
March 16th, 2005, 11:24 pm
this is okay. have no clue what you guys will think of it

ONLYHUM3N
March 16th, 2005, 11:44 pm
i would give battle theme 9/10 and quest2 8/10

badgerglue
March 18th, 2005, 08:18 pm
new song...... meant to loop

plz rate it or give me suggestions

badgerglue
March 18th, 2005, 08:50 pm
just a quick song that i made for when u die in a game (im making game music)

Very short

ONLYHUM3N
March 18th, 2005, 11:00 pm
i would give boss fight 9.5/10 and your dead theme 7/10

Kaileena
March 20th, 2005, 06:12 pm
can some one help me make a composition beacause i would like to try it but i need help {just to make sure, im playing music for 2 year now so i no i little bit }

Al
March 20th, 2005, 10:17 pm
@ Kaileena: Check the pinned threads.

Boss Fight: Oh, nice&#33; *ducks boss&#39;s stomping* hehe . . but it needs direction and a proper ending, even though it&#39;s looping. At least that&#39;s how I feel.

You&#39;re Dead: I think the classic dead theme is that of Mario, but yours is good too. Brief and to the point. Perhaps more harmony at the beginning?

badgerglue
March 20th, 2005, 10:29 pm
ok thx al.

I need to start doing better with the direction thing

Plod
March 21st, 2005, 06:43 am
You need to improve your skills on choosing dynamics. Everything is played forte? The timpanis are too loud. Timpanis and bass drums are to be felt, not heard, except in certain situations. The battle theme sounds more like a drone than a battle song. Give it a climax that anyone can hear. Now, besides thinking of what the music sounds like, you should try to think of what you want to go through the player&#39;s mind...if you really want it to have a huge effect on listeners. Work on harmony too. You&#39;ve got a good start on getting instrumentation. Listen to all the instruments that are at your disposal and see how you can use each one to contribute to the effect of a song. I thought your melodies were ok on most of the songs...just make them longer.

Quick read

improve these: feeling, dynamics, keeping the listener interested, harmony, instrumentation

o_O I didn&#39;t know I could give all that criticism, considering I haven&#39;t composed anything complete in a while.

Edit: whoops i thought page 9 was the last one so i didn&#39;t get to hear your next two songs...I don&#39;t know if this criticism can apply to those.

badgerglue
March 21st, 2005, 07:11 pm
problem.

Finale sucks at dynamics you cant do anything about that. but if i could i definity would <_<

thx for the criticism plod

yellowmonkey121
March 21st, 2005, 10:46 pm
i believe you need better chords on the dead theme. and boss fight was little random for me. i&#39;m doing a boss theme myself... when im done with it you can hear it and see what i mean.

Shizeet
March 22nd, 2005, 03:16 am
Yeh, the "You&#39;re Dead" theme is a bit too straightforward (maybe a little bit of harmony here and there, at least?). Now, I know it&#39;s hard to do dynamics with Finale, but even a little would add much to this piece. I&#39;ve done a similar "game over" sort of theme just recently, and note that while it&#39;s pretty simple, just adding a little bit of contour dynamics and tempo changes really adds to the mood.

The boss theme need some serious instrumentation changes; I know this is MIDI and all, but it usually helps to keep your perspective with the acoustic instruments that the patches are modeled upon. For example, the "violin" patch in the beginning part plays at a range that&#39;s physically impossible its real-life counterpart. Consider using a cello instead, which would be much more appropriate in that range. Also, a timpani will easily drown out a piano and violin in real-life(and it is already, to a certain extent). Perhaps you should consider replacing it with a simple drum-kit, and use snares and toms to play the percussion line instead. The harmony is very minimally expressed as well, giving it a &#39;random&#39; sort of feel. Use the piano (and other instruments, if you choose to add them) to play some chords at even intervals to keep a more steady flow to the piece.

badgerglue
March 25th, 2005, 03:21 am
ok i made this like barly thinking but it turned out pretty good :heh: i have no clue what u guys will think of it

@spc1st Um the song that up attached is for some reason not loud enough. (my computers sound system sucks and its the loudest it can go.still can hear it)

Oblivion
March 25th, 2005, 03:28 am
Its really nice for being made barely thinking. 8/10 I just think that some of the rhythms in the middle of it were kinda... strange...

Al
March 25th, 2005, 03:51 am
Not bad, hehe . . kinda like a theme/variations at first, but at least you put in more variety near the middle. I don&#39;t know, whenever people write harp music, I keep on expecting all these graceful arpeggios =P

badgerglue
March 25th, 2005, 04:23 am
well i was trying to make a song for the compotition. you know writing music for an insterment that i havent used before




....and new song

badgerglue
March 30th, 2005, 02:00 am
my newest song.......i like it.

badgerglue
March 31st, 2005, 01:10 am
another 1.......I,m on a role... like three song&#39;s in two days

badgerglue
April 2nd, 2005, 05:47 pm
the name says it all

badgerglue
April 4th, 2005, 12:45 am
I really like this one its cool......hope u agree

Al
April 4th, 2005, 02:47 pm
another harp solo:
It&#39;s hard to follow the melody, but I liked that bass effect. I didn&#39;t realize harps could do that.

no name:
Not bad, but too much doubling of the notes in the right/left hands in my opinion. You should fill up the harmony.

cant find a name:
Quite original . . in the first part, try to make the left hand stand out more, because it has the melody. And near the ending, you used a chord that sounded &#39;normal/traditional&#39;, which was totally out of place with your other original harmony =P so I think it&#39;d be best if you kept everything the same.

its ok:
The drums worked very well with your melody.

newly made fight music:
Didn&#39;t sound &#39;exciting&#39; as fight music, instead, it sounded like someone running away from bugs or something, hehe.

badgerglue
April 4th, 2005, 07:57 pm
heres another

Alfonso de Sabio
April 4th, 2005, 08:23 pm
I liked the piano part. Very good. The oboe (?) sounded a little too sporatic at times. You had great bridges between themes. I appreciate themes. Thanks. Too often they&#39;re painfully absent in this forum.

Al
April 4th, 2005, 09:23 pm
One of your best I believe&#33; I love it when songs sound like their title.

badgerglue
April 7th, 2005, 01:00 am
well i entered that song in the cma and i dont think im going to win, but its worth a try.

This song is a remake of harp solo

badgerglue
April 11th, 2005, 11:22 pm
this song i call dungon because it sounds like your in one

badgerglue
April 13th, 2005, 01:49 am
heres a song preview....tell me if u like it......ill post the final l8r

Al
April 13th, 2005, 02:00 am
Dungon:
Interesting dungeon =P I definitely feel the element of mystery and craziness, that things aren&#39;t right, hehe. Not my taste though. Seems a bit monotone the whole way through I think.

Preview:
Much nicer&#33; Yes, this one is worth continuing and finishing.

badgerglue
April 13th, 2005, 02:21 am
k thx al

badgerglue
April 13th, 2005, 08:19 pm
heres the final version of preview... i might make it better if u guys think i should make it better....

Shizeet
April 13th, 2005, 08:56 pm
Pretty nice - the harmony and structure sound a lot more stable than most of your other pieces. Some of the notes seem to be doubled for some reason, which is strange since it sounds like a piece written for solo piano. Of course, if you were actually trying to add emphasis to those notes, you should adjust their velocities levels instead; doubling the note gives it a weird chorusy effect. Anyways, this is a pretty good progression from your other pieces; try writting more for piano before handling larger ensembles, to practice organizing the basics. Keep it up.

badgerglue
April 13th, 2005, 09:35 pm
what do u mean by velocity lvls. i dont think i can do that with finale

Elite666
April 13th, 2005, 09:54 pm
Yes you can, you just need to use the midi editor. It&#39;s in the advanced tools.

badgerglue
April 14th, 2005, 12:24 am
:o i didnt know that.....but im not sure what u mean though like i dont know where advanced tools are and i dont know if i have a midi editor

Elite666
April 14th, 2005, 02:59 am
It&#39;s built into Finale, you go to the tools menu and go to midi under the advanced tools sub-menu. Basically, it allows you to set the velocity and a couple of other things. Velocity is just the volume.

badgerglue
April 14th, 2005, 08:40 pm
mine dont have it........... :ranting:

Elite666
April 15th, 2005, 09:07 pm
What Finale are you working off of? All complete versions of Finale should have it.

badgerglue
April 16th, 2005, 01:48 am
i have a downloaded version of it finale note pad 2005 plus

badgerglue
April 17th, 2005, 10:39 pm
this song i call dreams its really plesent..

hope you like it

Edit: o sry double post.........

badgerglue
April 20th, 2005, 11:22 pm
ok dont think that this is my best work because it definitly isnt. i made it while messing around..... its still cool

Al
April 27th, 2005, 05:10 pm
dreams:
I really liked it when that second instrument came in. I would have preferred to see it have more of the counter-melody though, instead of just holding long notes. But once you bring it in, you shouldn&#39;t take it out (I&#39;m referring to that 2 sec silencer/space), because it sounds empty afterwards. And the very last note sounds straining to me =P

messing around song:
Haha, definitely sounds like you just wanted to have fun. Not bad for what it is&#33;

Virtuoso
April 29th, 2005, 08:23 pm
hey I really liked dreams&#33; :D but yah like aeila said the end sounds good but a little empty you should have just kept going


i put my garage band song on but I think I need to re-post it because i don&#39;t think i plays the whole song see ya on monday

badgerglue
May 1st, 2005, 09:48 pm
Aelia? he hasnt been here for a while.

did you mean Al?

Virtuoso
May 3rd, 2005, 07:16 pm
yah I ment Al woops my bad lol see ya l8r

badgerglue
May 10th, 2005, 01:07 am
ok i just downloaded noteworthy composer and i took a song that i wrote on finale and made some changes on the song dreams. I hope this works.

Al
May 10th, 2005, 01:52 pm
Ah, you&#39;ve got more of that duet going on, nice =) . . are those beach waves I hear in the background? I think you&#39;ve improved this piece, with the fuller harmony.

badgerglue
May 10th, 2005, 07:07 pm
yep there beach waves and thx al for the comments

badgerglue
May 10th, 2005, 07:33 pm
im remaking alot of my songs since i got this program so im going to put some of them on.

EDIT:also im going to make a song on noteworthy so can you guys tell me of instraments that would be good to use for a battle theme (instramets on noteworthy only plz. thank you)

badgerglue
May 10th, 2005, 11:03 pm
:o This song i just made i think is awesome.

Fob
May 11th, 2005, 01:15 am
wow really good percussion&#33;&#33; did you do that with noteworthy?&#33;

[edit:] i was referring to temple btw :D

badgerglue
May 11th, 2005, 01:24 am
yah thats my first song that i made with noteworthy. I usually use finale.

Fob
May 11th, 2005, 01:29 am
good job sounds good :thumb:

badgerglue
May 11th, 2005, 01:34 am
thx

badgerglue
May 11th, 2005, 09:11 pm
new song.......

can some1 tell me some good instraments for a battle theme

Virtuoso
May 18th, 2005, 11:41 pm
I like temple better than the fun song it just seems more....i don&#39;t know....more battle themeish. lol I can see myself playing a game with temple going on in the background
It&#39;s pretty good


PS I think timpani synthesizer&#39;s and maybe a cello or bass would be good for a battle theme. syl

Al
May 19th, 2005, 04:23 pm
temple: ah, sounds jungle and tribal-like, hehe . . but you seem to stick to just one melody?

fun song: sounds like you had fun writing it, but I&#39;d like to hear more of those strings brought out

Vocalist69
May 19th, 2005, 04:35 pm
You should take composition more seriously, these sound like 5 minute compositions.

Try using A B A question-answer technique, instead of ever-evolving melody, impossible to follow or properly judge.

Not bad I guess.

badgerglue
June 2nd, 2005, 01:43 am
i was having fun on this one too but i think its cool because of the drums in the background.

Al
June 3rd, 2005, 03:08 am
Definitely sounds cool =P The rhythm and drive is at a good pace. But the music sounds it&#39;s just meant for background usage. I think it&#39;d be better if it had a soloist to carry out the main melody. And the very last note which you held doesn&#39;t fit . . I think it&#39;d be more effective if you ended off with a drum flourish&#33;

badgerglue
June 3rd, 2005, 03:04 pm
ok al thx for the comments. it was sorta ment to be a song in the background of a game.

Noir7
July 1st, 2005, 09:55 am
Originally posted by badgerglue@May 11 2005, 12:03 AM
:o This song i just made i think is awesome.
Think again, it&#39;s definately not ^_^

You need to raise the bar a bit. As I see it, you&#39;re not committed to create more serious work. These.. erm, half-assed songs may have given you some experience in your composing, which is good, but you need to move on&#33; Be your own critic, damnit&#33;

:)

badgerglue
July 3rd, 2005, 12:15 am
ur kinda mean. could u plz say something in a nice way plz.

and im sry that im not that good at compositions im happy that im trying. ty for responding but plz be nice.

noir7 ur a good composer and i like ur works but i think that u should be nice.

i mean
Think again, it&#39;s definately not

badgerglue
July 3rd, 2005, 03:47 am
*bump*

also i need ur guys help..

im not sure what instrements would be in a battle song... plz help me with this... im using noteworthy... and ill take my time making the song insted of like 2 to 3 hours... lol

badgerglue
July 5th, 2005, 05:04 am
heres a new song i hope u like it and i hope that its good... and i hope im improving.

Noir7
July 5th, 2005, 05:41 am
As you don&#39;t like what I have to say about this song, I&#39;ll stay quiet.

As for the battle theme, I&#39;d use brass instrument along with a good bass piano, and a good drum beat.

badgerglue
July 5th, 2005, 05:47 am
i dont mind ur coments noir7 but plz be nice about it... plz

Klonoa
July 5th, 2005, 07:25 am
:D Nice tune, good luck on your battle song hopefully you take your time

King Ryudo
July 5th, 2005, 07:37 am
badgerglue i like your new song it is B).

badgerglue
July 5th, 2005, 07:40 am
ty

i have a question... for noteworthy composer.. on the chain composition there is an instrument that says its grand piano but in the music its drums.. now i want to use drums in my songs but i cant get them... do u have to have the full version of the program. or what...?

Gnomish
July 5th, 2005, 07:48 pm
Percussion sets are generally derived from setting a channel to #10, then designating "Acoustic Grand Piano" (or whatever it&#39;s called) to that channel for playback. As a result, you will hear percussion.

Anyway, for a battle theme? I&#39;d suggest a really driven percussion line, lots of strings (octaves are good here :)), some brass (but don&#39;t turn it cliche), and maybe a harpsichord? I think that worked well in SaGa Frontier&#39;s Asellus Vs. Orlouge battle theme, and it was miraculously orchestrated. Maybe you should look up a MIDI of it for inspiration. :) Also, don&#39;t neglect tempo changes. It could make it more suspenseful. :)

(P.S.: I&#39;ll listen to that new song later. :))

badgerglue
July 18th, 2005, 03:29 am
*posting latest song...*

badgerglue
July 19th, 2005, 12:53 am
well i have a start to a song.. its not the battle theme yet.( im still thinking of ideas for that) but while i was doing that i wrote the begining of a song.. only the begining.. i was wondering if u guys whould tell me what i could mabye do to it to make it better..

EDIT: i donno why the attatchments arnt working for me...is it just me?

Noir7
July 19th, 2005, 09:32 am
It seems to be working..

badgerglue
July 19th, 2005, 05:17 pm
i donno it doesnt work for me...o well if its working for u guys thats good

badgerglue
September 1st, 2005, 10:52 pm
guys im taking music theory this year in school so my compositions should get better in a little bit.

Marlon
September 1st, 2005, 11:20 pm
I didn't like the "new song 1," but I guess the other one is o.k. :unsure:

badgerglue
September 2nd, 2005, 07:40 pm
yeh i just sorta noticed something wrong with new song. the sinthisiser goes the whole song... gotta change that =)

deathraider
September 3rd, 2005, 11:08 pm
Hmmm...I must say this song is very exaggerated. This could be good or bad...

Matt
September 3rd, 2005, 11:57 pm
the melody of your "new song" is pretty nice ^_^, but please do something about the permanent string note(s) :hey:
as for the "start on town theme".... it just sounds.. wrong? The beat sounds random, the notes sound random, sorry if I'm being harsh, but can't you hear that it sounds wrong at some parts yourself (like the repetitive part ~25sec)?

badgerglue
September 4th, 2005, 06:46 pm
yah :heh: ill get rid of that l8r.. i cant right now because i reformated my computer and i have to reinstall all my composing programs. so, ill get to that as soon as possible..

badgerglue
September 17th, 2005, 03:28 am
ok. i regret to inform u that i had to reformate my computer so i dont have the midi feature for now. but ppl with finale can listen to this...Im going to post a sample of a song that ive been trying to make with some stuff that they taught me in music theory this year. enjoy hopefully

yellowmonkey121
September 18th, 2005, 05:05 am
To tell you the truth... this song isn't sad at all. This actually reminds me of Autumn... (perhaps that is connected to the sadness) It is wonderful that you are trying out some of the stuff you learned in music theory.. but you gotta have the creativity to pull people's attention. Theory alone wouldn't cut it. Oh and I managed to convert your MUS to Midi. ;)

badgerglue
September 18th, 2005, 06:40 pm
hey thx yellowmonkey..ill use ur advice as i make the song better..thx for the midi too.

Marlon
September 18th, 2005, 09:53 pm
I didn't quite enjoy this song. :heh:

badgerglue
September 18th, 2005, 11:01 pm
my not? im not mad or anything just wondering what i could improve

Marlon
September 19th, 2005, 12:01 am
I think it has to do with the timing. :think: Very...off-ish...

Also, some notes seem pretty random. :\

badgerglue
September 23rd, 2005, 07:17 pm
can u guys help me...what key do u think this song should be in..the one i put on earlier.?

Noir7
September 23rd, 2005, 10:12 pm
You shouldn't worry about that for now. Just make sure that you come up with something good, and then use a key signature that fits the song (performance wise) and sounds pleasant =]

deathraider
September 23rd, 2005, 10:19 pm
Too many pauses, but the first half is pretty good. I didn't the second half was all that good, it was just really boring, and needed some serious polishing. Plus, it needs a real ending.

badgerglue
September 25th, 2005, 02:42 pm
thx guys...and um deathraider that was not the ending that was only a sample of the song..noir7 im really trying but everything i do doesnt seam to be getting better and i dont understand why...and about the timing..i might have to fix that but its going to be hard figuring that i have to write the song all over again..but i guess if thats what i have to do then i will do it..

Klonoa
September 27th, 2005, 02:16 am
something sad-This song was okay, but got a little dry at times.
There was one chord in the song that sounded very odd around 30 i think.
Well keep at it and good luck on future compositions. ;)

badgerglue
October 5th, 2005, 11:24 pm
ok...this sucks...i tried a demo for finale allegro and now i really really want it because i made something cool on it..the program is 190$ u guys think i sould buy it? i have enought money i just dont want to spend it on that...wat a perdiciment(sp)

Marlon
October 15th, 2005, 01:49 am
I'd just illegally download it... :shifty:

badgerglue
October 15th, 2005, 02:01 am
how do u do that?

Marlon
October 15th, 2005, 03:04 am
Through Limewire. :)

badgerglue
October 15th, 2005, 01:05 pm
lol my firewall wont let me im worried about ruining my computer...

TheIshter
October 16th, 2005, 02:16 am
How 'bout Bittorrent?(sp?)

badgerglue
October 16th, 2005, 01:31 pm
what?

Marlon
October 16th, 2005, 03:43 pm
lol my firewall wont let me im worried about ruining my computer...

Just go here (http://www.avast.com) and dowload the home edition. It is a VERY good antivirus.

Then just get Limewire. :)

badgerglue
October 16th, 2005, 04:40 pm
ok thx....when i downloaded it it said that i have to update something what does that mean?

Marlon
October 16th, 2005, 07:56 pm
Ummm.... @_@ I'm not sure.... Well, I guess just update whatever it says to update, then download it! :sweat:

badgerglue
October 18th, 2005, 10:55 pm
it dont work for some reason...so now im stuck with a crappy version of finale.....

Alfonso de Sabio
October 19th, 2005, 03:23 am
I recommend buying it legally, especially if you have the money. That way you can get support and customer service and all of those lovely things along with a clean conscience. And Finale isn't so bad.

Marlon
October 19th, 2005, 08:58 pm
a clean conscience.

You must be paranoid, then. I've never been guilt-stricken for downloading stuff that way. :huh:

Anyways, yeah, I'm so off-topic... :heh:

badgerglue
October 20th, 2005, 08:45 pm
yah i would do that if i had the money but i dont....i made an awesome freaken song with it but couldnt save it <_<

Shizeet
October 23rd, 2005, 08:35 pm
You must be paranoid, then. I've never been guilt-stricken for downloading stuff that way. :huh:

Anyways, yeah, I'm so off-topic... :heh:

If you want to discuss something like this with deathraider, you should probably take it to PM's. If you don't want to invoke the wrath of the Mod's, that is ;).

deathraider
October 23rd, 2005, 08:57 pm
What?! Why are you talking about ME???? I do NOT download things illegally!

Shizeet
October 23rd, 2005, 09:30 pm
Sorry, brainfart :sweat:. deathraider -> badgerglue.

badgerglue
October 25th, 2005, 12:44 am
Whao! i think we should change the subject..no new songs yet