for some reason games and animes for me are kind of easier to play then bach and the other composers. ( cant really spell any one else name)

of course its easier ... ~!!!!!!
even the music score has less notes ... it's usually just the melody line with the left hand accompaniment which u can just play chords and make dem up urself .... :D
people like Bach and Mozart have such a complicated mind .. composing all this complicated music ...^^"
it would be much more fun if we could use anime songs for piano exams ... :heh:

lol true. in fact i asked my teacher that and she got kind of pissed at me for asking. :sweatdrop:

hahaha
well partly because classical composers put way more technical elements into their composition, their repertoises are way sophisticated than anime songs.

lol true. in fact i asked my teacher that and she got kind of pissed at me for asking.

lol.. your teacher got pissed at you?? well my teacher loved to hear me play other songs that ive learnt.. except the teacher hated when i would practise those songs more than scales and songs i should be playing for the exam.. lol..
but he loved to hear what new things are out there... lol..

Originally posted by Neerolyte@Feb 8 2005, 03:54 AM
hahaha
well partly because classical composers put way more technical elements into their composition, their repertoises are way sophisticated than anime songs.
bach does that because he's baroque. classical composers don't ornament half as much.

and as to which is harder, it depends on the song/composer. baroque is definitely harder to perfect, especially if you play wind/brass.

which makes no sense because since composer always repeat lines then y do some ppl stil think its hard if all ur doing is repeating like for half of the song.

that's not classical...classical doesn't repeat the SAME THING
same motive, but not the SAME THING, and BACH music? rarely repeats

anime songs, or pop music or any of these modern music COPY, literally COPY the sections to make it longer

Originally posted by Neerolyte@Feb 11 2005, 07:13 AM
that's not classical...classical doesn't repeat the SAME THING
same motive, but not the SAME THING, and BACH music? rarely repeats

anime songs, or pop music or any of these modern music COPY, literally COPY the sections to make it longer
er, no. baroque (the most famous baroque composer being bach...) music is often in an AB, or binary form, which is essentially ||:A:||:B:|| form. examples include the minuet and sarabande form. classical music is often repeated as well, and the form of sonata allegro's exposition often uses a binary form as well, especially since there are two themes. beethoven is a master at writing something and repeating it, as shown in the classical minuet and scherzo styles. arias from opera also often use either an ABB or ABA form.

so stop going about and implying that the old composers are perfect and new composers all suck.

Doesn't that depend on the perspective of the person.

[QUOTE]that's not classical...classical doesn't repeat the SAME THING
same motive, but not the SAME THING, and BACH music? rarely repeats

Um....repeating like a third below is still repeating when you think about it, if you take it literally. But thats the thing that makes it harder....

Sinbios Zefiris Ark - I don't think Neerolyte meant to take that too seriously. I'm sure he/she respects all types of music, not just classical.

er, no. baroque (the most famous baroque composer being bach...) music is often in an AB, or binary form, which is essentially ||:A:||:B:|| form. examples include the minuet and sarabande form. classical music is often repeated as well, and the form of sonata allegro's exposition often uses a binary form as well, especially since there are two themes. beethoven is a master at writing something and repeating it, as shown in the classical minuet and scherzo styles. arias from opera also often use either an ABB or ABA form.


wow...i never knew people actually think in a ABA' form section A is exactly the same as section A'

they are not the same thing. Beethoven does not repeat the SAME THING, maybe last post i didn't stress this enough...SAME THING. Beethoven is way more creative than that, and of course a motive should be repeated, because they want the song to be catchy. wait..did i say the classical composer repeat the motive on my last post....yes i think i did!

A' base on section A, where the keys are the same, the rhythm are kinda similar, but not exactly the same like some pop song where one part just repeat over and over again with NO modification what so ever.



so stop going about and implying that the old composers are perfect and new composers all suck.

Where the hell did i say all new composers sucks? all the composers who composed all the chinese pop songs, i like them, i love them. I just hate repetition, that doesn't mean the composer is crap, and yes of course it's true that they repeat the WHOLE freaking part, you can't deny that can you. But did i imply all new composers suck?

Originally posted by Sinbios Zefiris Ark
so stop going about and implying that the old composers are perfect and new composers all suck. Sinbios seriously, where did that come from? =_= Like Neerolyte said did he imply anything? :rolleyes:
From what I can see way up there, the only thing he implied there was disliking repetition.

I might understand you a bit but please cut down such comments. It was totally unnecessary.
thanks

Originally posted by Neerolyte@Feb 14 2005, 05:39 AM


wow...i never knew people actually think in a ABA' form section A is exactly the same as section A'

they are not the same thing. Beethoven does not repeat the SAME THING, maybe last post i didn't stress this enough...SAME THING. Beethoven is way more creative than that, and of course a motive should be repeated, because they want the song to be catchy. wait..did i say the classical composer repeat the motive on my last post....yes i think i did!

A' base on section A, where the keys are the same, the rhythm are kinda similar, but not exactly the same like some pop song where one part just repeat over and over again with NO modification what so ever.




Where the hell did i say all new composers sucks? all the composers who composed all the chinese pop songs, i like them, i love them. I just hate repetition, that doesn't mean the composer is crap, and yes of course it's true that they repeat the WHOLE freaking part, you can't deny that can you. But did i imply all new composers suck?
if a ||: :|| isn't an exact repeat, i don't know what it is. aria is the exception, since the singer often adds ornamentation and improv in the recapitulation of A. what you're talking about is the themes, where the verses can be the same even if the specifics are different, as long as the same theme is present. not what i'm talking about.

zero: i don't know what you see "classical composers don't REPEAT, and modern composers all COPY" as, but i see it as "classical composers are ORIGINAL, and modern composers can't come up with better ideas so they COPY and REPEAT the same ideas".

Sinbios: I was actually only commenting about your "so stop going about and implying that the old composers are perfect and new composers all suck." :rolleyes:
You just busted it from out of nowhere and wham, you know?
We really didn't need that honestly. :heh:

Wait isnt classical implemented into anime and game music?

Originally posted by MHHornfreak@Feb 15 2005, 09:58 PM
Wait isnt classical implemented into anime and game music?
depending on your definition of classical. if you mean the classical era in music, then no, we're contemporary. if you mean classical in style, sometimes.

"Classical" music is often more complex, since it tends to be more of an intellectually-styled genre of music (ie, Bach's pieces have a certain mathematical precision which is even ummatched today). Anime/Game music derives more from popular music, and tends to follow the simple (yet effective) conventions that it holds; of course, it's a very hybridized genre, so you often have "classica"-sounding pieces as well.