okay, (there is probably a post like this somewhere :bleh: )
Im playing keyboard. ... and i need help to get bether. -_-

Right now i can just play
FFX - To Zanarkand (without left hand bass-.- still practicing with that)
FFX - Auron's Theme (Complete!)
FFVII - Flowers in the church (its beutifull.... but i'm not sure if i got bass with it...cuz i'm playing the original PS/FFVII Music for it.)

and im practecing on FFX-2 - 1000 Words (i can do the beggining...and ...BOM! no more X_X )

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And I need somthing to work on! --I Can't read notes....-- and like, i need to get bether! Any -GOOD- suggestions?

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NOT LIKE: just play and make ur own blablabla
Try playing *inserts notes here* (i can't read notes!!!)
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But i CAN read midi. give me a midi and i can (with some special program) learn it. (but its a bad program..... Nuendo.)


HEEELP&#33; <_<

the obvious solution is learn how to read the notes&#33; Everything takes time to learn so don&#39;t be impatient. get a book to help or ask someone who&#39;s willing to teach you from the forum or a piano teacher.

its not easy&#33; In the town i lives in there are no music teacher.

Can&#39;t i get a ...uhh....some sort of program to teach me how to ....read notes?
or some kind of guide web-site... :heh:

okay...so you know how to play some songs on the keyboard, so then you must somewhat know where the notes are on the keyboard, but in order to get better, i would suggest that you should draw on a card the keyboard ie the name such as

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/aprilwyssly/keyboard.gif

(to the proportion of each key of the keyboard of course) then place that card in front of those keys. you can then (though may take a bit of time) right the letters on top of each note on the music....then you can quickly identify the notes on the music on the keyboard...etcetc

dark magician&#39;s your answer there ivan. I suggest you just take his advice because I think that&#39;s a good idea. although the only other information you need is that you need to read off the stave as well and beginner piano books usually teach you that. I would try to teach you but I don&#39;t know much about computers so i can&#39;t put up any staves (the lines that you see whenyou are reading music) to show you what each ones mean. How about asking a friend that lives near you that can play the piano to show you if you can&#39;t get a teacher.

uh&#33; I&#39;ll try to help you anyway&#33; ok so you look at a piece and you read like this:-

The right hand plays in the treble clef which looks something like a curly thing with a line through it. the left hand plays in the bassclef which looks like a strange C backwards with two dots next to it. that&#39;s all i can be bothered to type for the moment so unless someone else tries to explain stuff to you, you&#39;re going to have to wait.

thank you DarkMagician for the help.
I only need to uhh, understand the notes that is "together" with eachother and timing. :doh:

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I see, i know about left-hand bass. I have read little about it for a WHIILE ago. I dont hae much problem playing with my left and right, its just that i need to remember where to press when playing notes etc. :think:

oops&#33; i&#39;m so sorry&#33; I thought you were like a total beginner... :heh: <blushes>

yup so i guess just ask dark magician&#33; "and everything was good" - bible (I think genesis?creation of world :think: )

Learn to read music get a book and learn how the staff works it&#39;ll help you with music in general. There is not substitute for this the only subistute is Guitar Tablature but that is more of a way of putting music on the internet even then there is no rythym or time just notes so you have to no how the song sounds REALLY well to play it right. Just learn to read music there are 7 main notes 7 main white keys and 5 black keys learn what they and relate them to the staff. Bass and treble cleff. Once you do this stuff will become a whole lot easier.

Treble Bass
----F ---A--
E G
----D ---F---
C E
----B ---D--
A C
----G --B--
F A
----E ---G---
D F

(Each dash line represents a line on the cleff the letters on the line are notes on the line the letters in between are notes in the spaces of the line on a real staff.) Also there are Whole notes half notes Quarter notes and Eigth notes but I doubt I could explain that here using plain old ASCII characters.

The other main thing is practicing, its cliched but its true. But its not how long you practice its how you practice. Divide each song into pieces and learn to play each individual part start off slow like real slow with both hands and play the right notes rather than playing it fast and screwing up. If you do this your hands will start to learn where to go, and as you speed up it becomes more and more natural until finally you&#39;re playing it. Also learn correct hand positions and crossing over with fingers and little stuff like that the equivalence of holding a golf club right when playing golf and swinging correctly. Learn your fundamentals like you know how to speak english (or your primary language.) Practice hard and practice right. Thats gotten me to be quite decent at piano. Also challenge yourself, I remember when I first looked at the Final Fantasy piano collections for the various games, I never saw anything so complicated when I picked up the book for FFVII, but I sat down and forced myself to learn how to play it. After a week of practicing non stop I was so much better at piano, a 100% improvement I think since the songs were so difficult for me. The harder the music you play the better you get just like playing against tough opponents in Chess you learn how to cope with the difficulty until finally you&#39;ve beaten it and you&#39;re a much better player afterwards.
Hope this helps.

just clear one thing off.....im a SHE....XD

erm....really...it all takes practice then if it is that you cant play both hands together and the timing right......practice with each hand separately, ie getting familiar with what you are playing in each hand...then when you try to put the two hands together....try to picture as if youre playing them separately, ie...listen to the tune youre playing in each hand.... (if you see what i mean.....poor explainer)

the timing.....hmmm.....play slowly and count...count out loud helps a lot&#33;

hmm,hmm... i understand, some more, i think... :think:

^,^&#39; But what shuld i practicing playing??? somthing not to easy nor to hard. :unsure:

- Aerith&#39;s Theme/Aeris&#39; Theme (FFVII)
- One Winged Angel (FFVII) (May be a bit too hard...but I&#39;m a close-to-a-beginner and I know it...)
- Rufus&#39; Welcome Ceremony (mainly right hand)
-(Any Final Fantasy song you like&#33;)

Would that help? :)

Practice is the best of ALL instructors. (quote from somewhere)
Practice makes perfect. (quote from somewhere else)

Originally posted by Zucriy Amsuna@Feb 24 2005, 07:53 PM
- Aerith&#39;s Theme/Aeris&#39; Theme (FFVII)
- One Winged Angel (FFVII) (May be a bit too hard...but I&#39;m a close-to-a-beginner and I know it...)
- Rufus&#39; Welcome Ceremony (mainly right hand)
-(Any Final Fantasy song you like&#33;)

Would that help? :)

Practice is the best of ALL instructors. (quote from somewhere)
Practice makes perfect. (quote from somewhere else)
ehh :heh: You are probably right&#33;

I will practice on Rufus&#39; Welcome Ceremony, and then Aeris&#39; Theme&#33;
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I&#39;d like to get more help though&#33; Can&#39;t get enough Experience&#33; :neko:

its always good to start to play something that youre familiar with, ie something that you enjoy listening to....coz then you would know how it should sound, therefore would be quite easy for yourself to spot the mistakes...by doing so....you should then be able to start to get a bit more familiarise with the timing etcetc.....if you dont know how to choose the piece, take a look at it....glance through it....see if theres anything that you might not be able to play....if when you look at it and feel up to the challenge.....by all means go for it&#33; though at first its going to sound a bit icky, but dnt give up&#33; "failure is the first step to success&#33;&#33;&#33;" (my lil slogan to cheer people on&#33; ;) )

Originally posted by DarkMagician@Feb 24 2005, 09:58 PM
its always good to start to play something that youre familiar with, ie something that you enjoy listening to....coz then you would know how it should sound, therefore would be quite easy for yourself to spot the mistakes...by doing so....you should then be able to start to get a bit more familiarise with the timing etcetc.....if you dont know how to choose the piece, take a look at it....glance through it....see if theres anything that you might not be able to play....if when you look at it and feel up to the challenge.....by all means go for it&#33; though at first its going to sound a bit icky, but dnt give up&#33; "failure is the first step to success&#33;&#33;&#33;" (my lil slogan to cheer people on&#33; ;) )
*sees a light* *ding* Thats soo true. I&#39;ve been playing Aeris&#39; Theme a little....still need to figure some things out... ^.^

...(BTW) Soon i will get myself a REAL Keyboard to play on&#33; (with more buttons&#33;) my old keyboard got few buttons...(old keyboard) so i can&#39;t play "To Zanarkand" with both hands...( i can do it with only one hand without bass ) :sweatdrop: Its the best music i know of&#33; ^_^


EDIT: ohh&#33;&#33;&#33; im finnaly a member&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; this is -i just now become a member- post&#33; weeeee&#33;&#33;&#33; :D :D :D

When I&#39;m learning a piece, I don&#39;t care about the notes. Yes&#33; I know&#33; I must read notes to become professional. But meanwhile, I listen and try to play. Learning the songs, part by part. The melody first and the accompaniment (sp?) second.

I think you should start learning to read and write notes. I wish I had done that.

//D

^not really....it is a good practice to do so.....coz then you would at least be able to play the piece, then when you do getround in learning the notes....it wouldnt be as difficult&#33;&#33;&#33;

If you grasp the theory, learning a piece seems a whole lot easier, but music theory is really hard to understand sometimes. It shouldn&#39;t take too long to learn the notes. After that, just practise. the more you play, the easier it is to remember&#33;

Probably. again. *sigh* meanwhile i will have to meditate about it.... *meditates* =_=