Well, just like this forum, I have just took an interest into music making. And its dawned to me that maybe I'm not the best at it yet, so I was wondering if maybe people could help me out by sharing experiences and wisdom. Of course if this actually goes as planned I will probably be asking even more specific questions. If anyone else wishes to inquire feel free to use this topic!!

well most songs i compose just come to me. Hard to explain. Most times it's accidental. That type of composing is either you have it or you don't. I havn't put them up here at ichigos because i usually play and memorise them and havn't been bothered to write them out and put theminto midi files. Will do when i finish a song though. Listening to music helps. You could approach it methodically though. You'd have to know a lot of music theory to do that though which is lame. Can't really help you on the really advanced stuff but im sure other people here can. I'm not as good as some of the people here. I'd ask Al personally but I'm not sure if he comes on anymore...

One important thing to remember about songwriting/composing is that never take it as a job or work! That will just make you feel pressured instead of enjoying the music that you are making. When writing music, you need to be patient and flexible because when you have a melody and harmony you like and they don't go together, you have to somewhat change it... So therefore, you have to be able to change things around.

I am not a professional in composing, because I just compose for enjoyment and I just wanted to improve my music theory and blah blah blah... :)

Some day I will actually learn something on music theory..... maybe thats why i can't quite get a song yet

Once you know the rules it's much easier to compose. I know that my piece "Autumn Waltz (http://forums.ichigos.com/index.php?showtopic=1698&view=findpost&p=57118)" isn't really Beethoven or anything, but it was totally manufactured. I felt like writing a song, so I did. I didn't even have a melody before hand. I just picked a chord progression and went with it. I recomend reading the compostion tutorial thread here (http://forums.ichigos.com/index.php?showtopic=1038&view=findpost&p=28232).

Originally posted by an-kun@Apr 18 2005, 05:34 PM
I'd ask Al personally but I'm not sure if he comes on anymore...
Eh? I'm on everyday =P (although I have been busy lately)

Alfonso beat me to the link xP . . hmm, what can I say about composing that I haven't said before? Well . . don't be discouraged if it's not working out. Never give up. The song I'm currently working on has taken me five months so far, and I'm *still* working on it. I've also learned that what you've learned from one song may not apply to the next one you're working on. Just like music, you too have to evolve and adapt. As one famous composer put it (whatever his name was), the notes should naturally write themselves. It's just your job to record it down.

Oops, I just thought someone said you weren't going to come on because of some argument and I havn't read a post from you in a while. Sorry! Good to see you again!

chord progression is the easiest way to compose but finding them out is the hard bit. I had to do that without the internet - hard work&#33; <_< Not even sure if there are any one the internet. Please don&#39;t post a link to one though because it&#39;s taken me years to find and listen to and figure out the best ones (ones that music theory doesn&#39;t teach you). I&#39;d actually get annoyed if anyone does... :angry:

For me it helps to compose with someone else. My friends and I are currently working on a three violins and a viola piece thats coming along smoothly. It helps to have other people around so when your mind goes blank someone can think of what should come next. They can also give suggestions to make the notes work together better.

It&#39;s not your composition though. It would be a joint effort. I&#39;m not sure if they allow that here... :think: Also doesn&#39;t help you develop. Joint efforts can lead to conflicting ideas and if the other person isn&#39;t that great then the piece ultimately breaks down. It&#39;s a good idea if the people are at the same level and have the same frame of mind though, I&#39;ll give you credit for that.

Thanks everyone for your support&#33;&#33;&#33;

Originally posted by an&#045;kun@Apr 21 2005, 04:59 PM
It&#39;s not your composition though. It would be a joint effort. I&#39;m not sure if they allow that here... :think:
What do you mean, not allowed here? =P As long as the people get the credit&#33;

Another tip: let the song sit for a while . . like, when you&#39;re done it, stop working on it, then come back to it when your mind is fresh again. You&#39;ll catch things you never noticed before, and you&#39;ll come up with a better solution. And um . . I find that when I&#39;m stuck, I just play from the beginning, over and over again, until the next part naturally presents itself.

Okies but I just feel like it&#39;s not personal if you work in a team. If the music is meant to convey emotion, it wouldnt work