need advise- but is to do with music teachers so i thought this was the best place to do it :huh:

anyways, the problem is, my teacher is going all "i'm the teacher and you WILL play what i tell you to" on me- and i'm not the kind wh likes being told what to do, so i told him that i will play what he tells me, as long as once in a while we can do something i want to do- i mean that's perfectly fair right??

even so- he started having a HUGE rant at me, saying that he was the teacher and all that crap- maybe next time i should turn around and say "well i'm the one paying for lessons, so help me with what i want to do"

anyway- if anyone has advise- please tell me :blink:

or if you have nasty teachers- feel free to rant here (if that's allowed)

sound's like a cock personally. You pay, so if you're not doing grades then you should do what you want to do. He's probably scared that he can't play it. Music teachers have to prepare their lessons though....so that may be the reason.

Hehe, the chamber orchestra teacher at my school is like that...sorta... She complains about us never having enough playtime while she's the one wasting our time with the lectures :sweatdrop:

sound's like a cock personally

ROFL!!! :D - and what you said about not being able to do it himself is probably true too :)

If you are paying for lessons, then he should help you. My suggestion: tell him you'll be getting another teacher if he doesn't help you.

that reminds me of my piano teacher. i never practised my scales. so when i go to my lessons, my music pieces would be up to notch and prett well darn good, but me scales was most shocking!!!
we even had a few weeks of me going to the lessons for scales!!!
eventually, the teacher cracked it at me and swore his head off :mad:
he said sorry after... i never told me parents, but... i ended up quiting shortly after...

I would ask again nicely. Do what the teacher tells you to do really well. Most teachers give a little reward by doing what the student wants to do. And apologize, you shouldn't talk to a teacher like that. I've been through enough situations like this to know.

But if your teacher's attitude reallyis that bad, just get a new one.

hm...a piano teacher SHOULD tell a student what they should do a piano teacher's job is to fix, teach and improve a student's technical ability, of course they need to tell the student to play Mozart or Czerny etc...even though it's boring but it is for the student's benefit. But If your teacher just have that TEACHER attitude and didn't give you a good reason why he want you to do what he says then just get another piano teacher, he's a bad one

*points to neero*

He should know...

But maybe see if he'll explain his reasons...and THEn try compromising so you're both happy. And if you're not...find someone else who will listen to what you think as well as what they think you need to be doing.

i'm not an evil teacher X_X

lol, neero teaches?? really?? HOW COOL!!!
how long have you been teaching for?

close to half a year ^^;;

wow!!! COOL!!!
me friend teaches too!!! but she only teaches a 8 yr old kid... lol, and its been 1year now i think...

anywayz, so how is it going neero?? easy? fun?? do they annoy you somtimes because they dont practise or they just dont get what your saying??

lol many things annoys me, but i guess every teacher gotta go through it
overall i like teaching piano, because i like piano :P

things annoy me the most:
1: don't practice, and don't review the NOTES
2: assume that they practiced, but they screw pretty bad while playing...so that might just be nervousness...so it's not their fault i'm annoyed at that
3: DON'T LISTEN!!! they look around the room......so i have to go like "hey there's no posters on the wall for you to look at, so what are you looking at??"

*looks around the room* >.>

My piano teacher was ghastly - used to do mocking imitations of my wrist angle and finger curling and never, EVER congratulated me for improving a piece <_< I&#39;ve had rotten luck with music teachers in the UK - probably just my school but urgh. Anyway, yeah, threaten to get another teacher, because if you don&#39;t do pieces you enjoy occasionally then you may get put off piano solos altogether :/

used to do mocking imitations of my wrist angle and finger curling

yep i do that to my student, make them imitate my hand position and stuff.

*pats Neero*

I meant you should know what a teacher should do. Not that you were an evil teacher. Although, if we go by your email....you ARE evil......

but but...was i EVER evil to you? or anybody? :rolleyes:

:whistle:

lol, our Auto Teacher was fired because he was throwing text books at students... Yelling at them... you name... he probably did it...

(Auto=Automotive=Cars etc.)

Think he would have been better off with trying to teach the tradditional way... Eg: Not slamming metre sticks on desks

My temy teacher spank me with a ruler real hard if I get a note wrong or wrong fingering... and she slaps me sometimes if I talk back...............

I&#39;m only mean if the kids don&#39;t practice. Then, it&#39;s a round about "I&#39;m horribly disappointed in you" meanness. And that really is effective because they so look up to me.

lol hahaha, my piano teacher loved me and me brother (dont think dirty :nono:)
he wrote a little article in the papers... but as we grew older, he got more and more annoyed...

if he could make scales seem fun then i probably would have graduated by now...
and i hate performing infront of a crowd of people, in which my teacher made me do...
i did horrible&#33;&#33;&#33; i dont like to be forced into things especially if a crowd of people is just starring at you and that they also perform 10 times better then you too...
ohwellz...

how cool&#33; My mom said I should try teaching, but I honestly don&#39;t have that kind of patience, especially not with little kids. Having three sisters has drained my patience...^^*

Anyway, guess what? Piano lessons aren&#39;t required by the federal government. You&#39;re paying extra for these things. Him not agreeing to help you with what you want to play every now and then is completely unprofessional and the "I am the teacher" thing is just stupid. No student will voluntarily learn in that enviroment. There should be respect between a student and a teacher. You&#39;re paying this guy big bucks and he has no right to cop an attitude. Take your desire to learn somewhere else-where they&#39;ll help you with what you want and with what they know will help you.

...what happened? it completely skipped a page... @_@ Anyway...that sucks&#33; Why are you paying for corporal punishment?&#33;?&#33;?&#33;?&#33; That&#39;s illegal&#33; (in the US, anyway..)

My temy teacher spank me with a ruler real hard if I get a note wrong or wrong fingering... and she slaps me sometimes if I talk back...............

kinky.... :blink:

My old band teacher. Whenever we did something wrong during marching practice we would stand in attention with our instruments up for 2 hours at the most. When if we were out of step he would make us do high steps like the danceline would. So that&#39;s why I quit band, started drawing, listening to Japanese and anime music, and looking for sheet music and everything like that. So I guess I should be thanking him, because if it wasn&#39;t for him I would be here at this site. :D :worshippy: :DD

hahaha Thorn XD your funny haHAaHa&#33;&#33;&#33;

if i ever said that about a teacher id kill myself...

Teachers... :doh: :doh:

hm...i disagree with some of you on strict music teachers. When i was 5 or 6, i was forced to play piano, i never liked it, so i was literally bash around by my teacher (with the support of my parents) and i cried because i thought it was so freaking unfair that i didn&#39;t get to choose what i like to do, instead being forced to.
Then now i realized that, when a teacher is harsh on you, you WILL succeed later on, you WILL thank him/her afterwards, only when you are being forced where the talent will be force out of you. The teacher doesn&#39;t hit you because it&#39;s FUN&#33; it&#39;s because they want you to succeed.

I see so many people come to me and say "can you teach me piano?" and yes i am willing to, not because i get money, but to be able to bring music to another person, but because we&#39;re in Canada...teachers are not allow to hit, or swear at the students, so i didn&#39;t, i told numerous times to their parents about telling the kid to practice, but they parents aren&#39;t strict ENOUGH&#33; so every week i just teach them almost the same thing over and over again because they don&#39;t practice or at least being FORCE to practice, and they just give up going to class because it&#39;s boring...this thing happened 3 times now, and also happened when my friend was teaching piano. Well in my mind the reason the kid say it&#39;s BORING because they don&#39;t practice, and they just stuck at the preliminary period. But as a teacher in north america where hitting a student is regarded as criminal assault, i can&#39;t force the student to do well. But at the same time, as a teacher you have the responsibility of bringing out the best out of the student...thus it&#39;s contradictory.

So in my opinion Music Teachers (i only mean music teachers), should be strict in order to be a good teacher, and in order to be a good musician (excluding the born geniuses), you HAVE to find a strict, harsh teacher if you EVER going to be successful on the musical path. Music is not like academics where it is necessary for the future, music is optional, people have the choice of giving up without even realizing that in the future they are going to regret that they are too old to be able to learn an instrument. (like many of my friends, they blame their parents to not force them to learn instrument...)

AHHHHH i&#39;ll stop...i sound too troublesome

well i agree with you, strict teachers make you better in the futur...
but its not like i wasnt practising... i practised heaps everyday&#33;&#33;&#33; i just never practised scales :heh:
and i never practised theory either lol
but when i went to do the theory exam, i got 99%.. well i only got 1 mark wrong...
and yeah i guess, i thank the teacher for it...
like, my teacher he was really good and all... but, us students also need to be a little motivated... if you dont excite us then we wont practise...
most of my friends that was forced into piano, was forced because their parents wanted them to do it... they never found the joy in piano....
also, we need some good and bad feedback, not all bad feedback...

i never lost interest in piano, but its just that the teacher didn motivate me to do better...
when i was yound he motivated me heaps&#33;&#33;&#33; he was the happiest man on earth... but i dunno...
im just blabbering on, sorry...

ya i know what your talking about, just hearing teacher keep putting you down will probably make you give up playing anyways.

Yer I was made to do the piano and violin when I was little. I&#39;m pretty glad though because it&#39;s one thing I&#39;m half decent at now. I wouldn&#39;t have bothered joining ichigos if I didn&#39;t do music.

Just follow his lesson plan whateva you call it. If he&#39;s still acting really... weird i&#39;ll say, get a new piano teacher.

So, a looooooong reply. This topic is my forte. :P

As much as I agree with some of you that it is important for a teacher to be strict, there&#39;s a difference between being strict and unreasonable. I&#39;m a singer (my voice is my main instrument...when you study it properly it&#39;s complex as hell, lol) and I&#39;ve worked with a number of teachers who have been, well, let&#39;s just say pretty highly strung (all the rumours you hear about the prima donnas are true). And it&#39;s not a good thing. For the first eight years I studied music I was with a teacher who was a little like Thorn&#39;s sounds, except crazier. If I wasn&#39;t totally happy or didn&#39;t understand a particular piece or technique she used to go absolutely wild at me and assume I was making a criticism of her teaching method, and by the end I just couldn&#39;t stand working with her any more. I eventually left when I started having problems with my voice and she told me I was faking it to get at her.

It&#39;s never a good thing. If you don&#39;t get on with your teacher it will eventually eclipse at least some of the love that you have for the instrument. Working with a good teacher with whom you also get on with is one of the most rewarding things in the world. I&#39;ve recently started with a superb new teacher who&#39;s one of the nicest people I&#39;ve ever met (though she&#39;s pretty strict too...which isn&#39;t a bad thing), we&#39;re working through the vocal problems, and suddenly I&#39;m enjoying everything so much more, and finally started making progress - I&#39;d been in a rut for a LONG time.

Even the strictest teacher can&#39;t force someone to practise, but if a teacher inspires you to do well you&#39;re far more likely to put in the effort. Incidentally, Thorn, I think your point is perfectly fair. Most teachers will allow you to do a piece or two of your own choosing along with anything they might pick out for you. It stops things from becoming stale, and I personally think that you will benefit from it.

Look for a new teacher. It is possible for music lessons to be truly inspiring and enjoyable as well as instructive. You have to strike a balance. Look for someone who&#39;s a good technician as well as being passionate about their craft, and confident enough not to have to turn on you and crush you if you question something they do. They DO exist.

Good luck ^_^

I agree with everyone. You should have a teacher who will let you choose some songs that you like to play.(goes for any instrument) And you should also play some songs that the teacher has planned. The teacher should be a little strict. But if he&#39;s too strict then you won&#39;t learn anything because you&#39;re too mad or upset at him for it, and if he&#39;s not strict enough then you&#39;ll lag around and get behind.

Teachers should make learning fun. And not too mean about it if the student doesn&#39;t do everything exactly right. That&#39;s why we&#39;re taking lessons in the first place, to learn. And I bet that when the teacher was young and learning it was fairly hard for them.

But once that teacher gets too harsh or un-profesional about his job that&#39;s when you need to find a new one.

Personnal experience.

Odd....with all my instructors....I&#39;ve never had trouble.

All my chiors teachers have been awesome and loved me because I understood that I have to sing this music, but I also want to sing other things during free time.

My guitar teacher was even more relaxed, the moment I came for my first lesson, he said: "So...what do you want to learn? Any certain songs?" It amazed me he was so relaxed, and the funny thing, it made my learn process more enjoyable, to learn something I wanted, while also practicing good guitar habits, I learned far more from him then I could from someone going: "This is the E String...pluck the E String." and sadly, the first lady I was with for about a week before I was transfered, WAS like that X_x


The same with my piano and violin teacher, I mean, my violin teacher made me work up to playing stuff from Final Fantasy and things I wanted, but when she realized I was working better while playing this music, while still learning. And my piano teacher is our neighbor, and she knows I have lots of music experience, so she too, let&#39;s me learn songs as I go along XD