*stands up to podium* I am DiamondSeraph....... and I can't flip *audience applaudes* So, yeah any one wanna break it down for me?

Break what down? Anyway, anyone hear of Muay Thai? This is a Thai Martial Art, and oh man it is awesome, you can easly take any size of opponent down in one hit!

There are many ways to KO a man in one hit.

The question is: Do you want the hit to be lethal?

Flipping takes a lot of leg muscle. i can only do front flips...i learned that myself, and back flips....who knows! anywho, just run, jump up really high, and act like your doing a tumble...but in midair. it's the jump that counts!

I'm interested in Tai Chi, it looks relaxing. But I want to do Taek won do more, I like the kicks they do, very flashy.

Anyone in the know that can make a breakdown of Wing Chun and Aikido for me? I've only time to learn one discipline, and I'd choose the one more practical for tight spaces (think buses and nightclubs) and grappling (on-the-floor) scenarios.

EDIT: Well, looks like there's a Krav Maga school in London, so there goes the illusion of free will choice. =P

I can only flip into a pool or on something soft because I can't land on by legs...

I want to learn at least one form of real Martial Arts. Time...

Yeah I stay in my martial arts class for 3-4 hours, twice a week. That is only because I am so dedicated and I get the lessons for free!

*Adds that on list of Things-To-Do before one dies list* I will...

On Mondays, and every other Friday, I take Karate and Kobudo, for an hour (and 1.5 hours on Mondays.) Every Tuesday and Sunday, I take Kung Fu for an hour. And every Wednesday and Friday, I am in a competition team for 2 hours. So I guess overall, I average 8 hours a week on martial arts, excluding practice at home. And exluding the competitions I go to as well.

So... ah, this must be a really stupid question for all of you, but what are the specific differences between: Tae-Kwon-Do, Kung Fu, Karate, Ninjitsu, Jujitsu, Kenpo, Kobudo, Aikido, and any other ones I can't think of.

Tae Kwon Do's specialty is Kicking, Kung Fu is about copying different animals to conceal techniques, Karate is a more all-a-round style. Ninjutsu is the art of stealth attacking, Jujustsu is the Samurai art of Grapling, Kenpo is basically anything goes but specializes in atacking pressure points, Kobudo I'm not sure about, and Aikido, is the art of thowing, specializing in using your opponents attack against them.
Does that help?

Close. Kobudo, often going with Karate, is using weapons. I am in Kobudo myself, and so we pretty much use the traditional Japanese weapons like Bo, Nunchaku, Kama, Sai, and so forth. Kung Fu deals a lot with animals, but it's not always to conceal techniques. It's more about mimicing the animals. For example, we do the tiger for pure power, the mantis to get very close to the enemy, and monkey we jump in and out. There are some animals that conceal techniques, but others are very open.

Aikido is about some throwing yes, but the real dojo's focus on making use of Ki energy, hense Aikido. I would like to take Aikido, but I am already doing too many forms of martial arts as it is.

I used to like Martial arts when I was younger, and I thought it was really cool. Nowadays though, I think it's been ruined. Most people are there just because they loooooove anything that's japanese. They've seen it on movies or played it on games, and they want to do it too. Same goes with food, why the hell does people eat noodles just because they're japanese? Here you go sweetie. No mom, I want ramen! RAMEN RAMEN RAMEN

Of course I shouldn't judge the whole concept because of fanboyism, but it's hard not to. There are just too many geeks who "seek for their destiny (oooh)" in Martial arts.

Shame.

Eh, well, I am thinking of taking Martial Arts just to back up myself. Since people call me ninja/killer/assassin/knows Kung Fu/etc... That way I can say that I can...

Yes, that helped. Thank you to all who answered.

I used to like Martial arts when I was younger, and I thought it was really cool. Nowadays though, I think it's been ruined. Most people are there just because they loooooove anything that's japanese. They've seen it on movies or played it on games, and they want to do it too. Same goes with food, why the hell does people eat noodles just because they're japanese? Here you go sweetie. No mom, I want ramen! RAMEN RAMEN RAMEN

Of course I shouldn't judge the whole concept because of fanboyism, but it's hard not to. There are just too many geeks who "seek for their destiny (oooh)" in Martial arts.

Shame.

You and me both...you and me both...:mellow:

A lot of things have been ruined by stupid people. I hate it when people copy because they are too lazy to come up with something original besides the common public...

Close. Kobudo, often going with Karate, is using weapons. I am in Kobudo myself, and so we pretty much use the traditional Japanese weapons like Bo, Nunchaku, Kama, Sai, and so forth. Kung Fu deals a lot with animals, but it's not always to conceal techniques. It's more about mimicing the animals. For example, we do the tiger for pure power, the mantis to get very close to the enemy, and monkey we jump in and out. There are some animals that conceal techniques, but others are very open.

Aikido is about some throwing yes, but the real dojo's focus on making use of Ki energy, hense Aikido. I would like to take Aikido, but I am already doing too many forms of martial arts as it is.



You're right on the Aikido and Kungfu, that completely slipped my mind, thanks for the correction.

I want to take aikido and kungfu. However, Kenpo really got me interested. I would like to know more about pressure points.

There are three main points on the human wrist that when combined raise the blood pressure.

combined with 2 more points on the human body will result in a KO
This is very effecive against punches if you happen to be lightning fast.

7 or more points struck will result in death. Although there are certain points on the human body that when struck once can result in both KO and death which is the foundation of Dim Mak. I only know a few but those will result in loss of strength.
Don't even ask me to explain where those points are, I do not know the single hit KO, and death points. and the ones I do know are dangerous if not used properly.

Grab the right wrist and apply pressure to points Lung point 9, Paricardiun ponit 6, and Heart point 6

Then by striking to the right of the throat just under the jaw,(Stomach point 9) and then up at the under muscle of the Jaw(Stomach point 6) will result in a KO. If done too lightly a black out will be the result.

To revive a KOed person massage the point on the right side at the of the skull at the back of the neck(Gall Bladder point 20). This is for reference only please do not attempt to KO someone with this technique unless it is under close supervision of a Black belt that knows what your doing.

:blink: ...ok...just kick him in the crotch then run XD j/k.

i KO by kicking the jaw at tournaments, knock em out, they wind up w/ a headache, and you win. Hurrah hurrah

I don't know anyone stupid enough to allow themselves to get kicked in the jaw. or crotch, they are all to advanced for those tricks and can easily catch your leg and take you to the ground and grapple you into submission.

I want to learn all about these pressure points. Are there anyone who teaches this kind of art in new York?

There is a Dojo in NY called Elite Defence Tactics which specializes in Kenpo, and Jujutsu. Kenpo is where you will learn to use Pressure points, as for the location, I don't know but you might be able to email them and find out.

Their Official Website is
http://www.elitedefensivetactics.com/index.html


One of my former grand masters was able to use the 5 point KO so effectivly his apponent didn't know what hit them. He was able to hit all 5 points in less then 1 second.

Isn't it true that if you just derive a kick (I just read this from a book, so, it's most likely wrong) to the throat, you'd automatically kill the person?

Oh man, my grandmaster/grandfather, knows just about every pressure piont on your body. You don't want to cooperate, then he'll make ou, he hasn't taught me them yet, he doesn't think I'm ready, BTW, I will be able to test for my Black belt this spring! Finaly after all these years!

Any Strike to the throat can kill a person if you crush the wind pipe, but unless you actually crush the wind pipe, it won't kill them.

How long have you trained?

Ah... all right. I thought so. I would think it would just lose their vocal chords, with a painful throat, but I wasn't sure if it would just... kill them on the spot.

Who, me or Sukate?

Personally I trained for 4 1/2 years in 2 main styles TKD and Kenpo

Ah... the question was aimed for Sukate, but, you posted about 5 seconds ahead of me.

4 1/2 years? So... are you done yet?

It's been several years since I was in the martial arts (about 4), I hope to restart it some time next year. The 41/2 years are in total with 3 different Schools

Ah... I see.
Sorry if I seem a extremely vague and asking obvious questions. I have no real basis of any real martial arts information on status and training for each type.

No Problem, If you do take martial arts make sure that it is at least a meduim to full contact Dojo, otherwise you'll get a false sence of security and when and if you need to use it you won't hit and that will be that.
Get my point?

Yes. I get it completely. But... I think I may be in a need for searching... as, this is Kansas, so...

Haha, Sukate, you're so kool.

I wish I could do Martial Arts. I have wanted to forever. Do you think that it is bad to start late? Like in your teens? We don't have the money for that kind of thing...but I plan to get a job. Balance a job, school, and martial arts classes...I can do it!

I've been training sence I was about 8 years old. you see the reason why it took so long is because when you are a little kid, they have you go through a whole different ranking scale. Sure the belts are the same colors, but there is a white stripe in the middle that signifies that you are of the childrens rank. I was recently put into the Advanced class and I had to start all over in my belt rankings, but I am almost there now baby! YEAH!

So, if you start later, you can skip that white stripe stage?

I don't know anyone stupid enough to allow themselves to get kicked in the jaw. or crotch, they are all to advanced for those tricks and can easily catch your leg and take you to the ground and grapple you into submission.

obviously not. (i don't kick them "there" by the way, i myself consider that cheating.) then again, i'm known as the fastest in my division.

obviously not. (i don't kick them "there" by the way, i myself consider that cheating.) then again, i'm known as the fastest in my division.


Haha, Sukate, you're so kool.

damn straight. that's my hubby. *hugs hubby*

lol *hugs wifey back*

it never hurts to start marial arts when you are older just that the ones who have studied it when they were little will have that mutch more expiriance jump start. (that is if they were serious in it like I was) but I suggest taking it period, so that you will always have that knowledge of defending yourself, it's kinda like a condom, better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. ^^ (sorry it that was perverted, it was the only way that I could explaine what I ment...)

O.o When I read that last part... I understood what you were saying... You didn't need the analogy. -.- Ah... thanks for explaining anyways.

^^ ok Just I didn't think that other people would have got it (again, sorry if it was perverted..):heh:

Has anyone here entered in any tournaments?

is Kung Fu a martial art?
Oh well, I'm learning Kung Fu

Yeah, it is! How goes the learning?

kung fu is part of our physical education in school. i know how to do hand-to-hand combat and i can use the staff. wicked awesome! ^^

O soo cool, I tried to teach my sis how to use the staff. I'm not that good at it though. I would seriously like to see some of your moves!

ehehe, im not that good yet though. ^^ i remember the time i poked my partner's eye by accident. it was SO red i thought it would affect her vision.

Owwwww, *stands ten feet away* lol now you can show me some moves

To my luck, I found a Shaolin Temple in my own city. (Flushing) On the website they said that this Shaolin Temple is a branch from the official one in China. What luck!

boy havn't been on for a while.looks like Martial arts is still running strong in this forum ^^ Yeah I've been teaching myself how to use a staff (not poser way, but just swinging it around but accually do research on it and train my mind for it) they need time to get use to after fighting with Kendo sticks and short fighting sticks (the ones that I am tought to fight with in my martial arts) but once you do get use to it they are fun^^

SUKATE, YOur back!!!!! Finally lol. (sorry spammed)

^^ nah it's ok. Glad to see that people accually care for me here ^^

Hiei, you got to let me know how that Shaolin training is, I've been wanting to know about it

Flark, I signed up for a Krav Maga course. >_<; This is going to hurt, big time (bare instep to elbow, anyone? x_x) Stay tuned for Red Stone's masochistic Krav Maga reports (induction this Friday).

Hmm sounds interesting.... so, what is Kraving Manga?(Krav Maga)lol

hiei your in flushing too?? kool i dont really do any martial arts. I know tai-chi which i dont really consider a martial art. Mainly i was just taught how to use numchucks and i can use them pretty well. Now iv just been shooting alot(yes with guns).

You in the millitary or shooting just for fun?

Sorry no offence but I don't really care for the numchucks...their are way better weapons out there in my opinion...

i agree...besides they're painful XD. Twin Katana's are still a fav of mine woot!~

^^ nah it's ok. Glad to see that people accually care for me here ^^

Hiei, you got to let me know how that Shaolin training is, I've been wanting to know about it

I havent taken classes yet, but will in the near future. The costs there are pretty high ($300 for three months I think.) but its pretyt worth it since you can come there everyday and train there. They also follow the rule where you cannot go up a level until you've trained for 6 months as a beginner. Definately not a fake =D

Wow $300? But yeah I bet it is worth it.

meh, you never kna yo. some class i took here was like 200 dollars for three months (what a rip of) i had to start ALL over from white belt...ugh, that guy was lame. it took me 4 years just to get my blue belt, so i said screw that place (that guy wasn't trained in a REAL korean dojo) so i left and went to a new place. now this dude is hardcore and know's his stuff, an 8th degree and was trained by a korean grand master.

bummer i wish i could train again!! school's getting in my way *sigh*

Yeah I do some martial arts. Karate, Some Jeet Kwon do here and there and some other things I pick up from terniments I haven't had a good fight in a while though everyone's too weak/slow.

yes, i know how you feel. :blink: GASP!!! we could kick EACH OTHER'S butts!!!!

^^ I would really enjoy watching a good fight.

ive been practicing kung-fu but I gave it up.... too many bruises.:P

Oh...you souldn't have! you would have gotten use to it, I mean I almost dislocated my shoulder and almost broke my elbow, but that wasn't enough to scare me off, and now I am trying to become the next master of my grandfathers martial arts

wow, what type of martial arts does your family do? (sorry if u already said, didn't feel like searching ^_^)

I did Northern Long Fist (Wushu) for a while, but my knee started bothering me and my doc said to rest it for a while. So now i do Tai Chi Quan to heal my knee. It does help a bit.

I've actually really wanna try Judo, but all that's in the area is Aikido, a very informal one at that.

My grandfather teaches the martial arts called Kamagong. It comes from the Pholippiens. He started teaching it a few years after we came to America.

kamagong...i think i've heard of it before. lol i've been looking for some pinoy martial arts for awhile, i might look into finding someplace to learn

hmm...kamagong, isn't that the stick fighting technique? Although i've heard that those sticks were originally supposed to represent short blades, is that true?

Kali is what they call the stick play, and yes the sticks do represent blades. When you hit with them, he teaches me to slice like a blade, not fling like a ... I have no explination for that one. Just was taugh to swing them as if I were to cut the person.

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graduated? what do u mean graduated? Didn't know there was a such thing as that.

Maybe it means he got his black belt...?

well uhhh, i've been doing kendo for a while

but even if that's it, there are many degrees of black belts and such...Maybe it was a self-defense type school and not traditional martial arts, is what i'm thinking.

My grandfather teaches the martial arts called Kamagong. It comes from the Pholippiens. He started teaching it a few years after we came to America.

just a teeny correction on this post which was posted WAY back, its from the philippines

the word kamagong in martial arts must be from the same word (kamagong) which is a type of tree in the phils. :P

@wu tang: what's it like, kendo? is it heavy?:think:

uhhh, well heavy in the sense of equipment, then sometimes
but thats only because my mook-do (dunno how to spell it) is actually heavier then the everyone elses

but if you mean heavy in terms of intense, then i guess sometimes
i mean the exercises arent that bad, but the memorization of attack patterns and such can get tough at times
but sparring is pretty cool though, and far from intense, unless you have some physical condition or something :think:

this is just from my personal experience though

just a teeny correction on this post which was posted WAY back, its from the philippines

Yeah...I think I know that, I mean it isn't like I'm from there or anything...(yeah that was sarcasm) it was just a typo

And yes the name of it was taken from the kamagong tree. Because the wood from the tree is super strong and is nearly unbreakable.And that is what the martial arts is if you know all the ins and outs of it (not there yet) And plus they make the fighting sticks that we use out of the Kamagong tree
(specially ordered) those sticks can crack a human head like a water-mellon.

hmm...guess now one has any intrest in martial arts anymore...

You're joking, right? I'm still practicing everyday. I wonder if anyone can use that weird looking thing, I can't recall what it's called. It's this blade connected to a chain.

My gym class did Tae Kwon Do today. And only today. -.- I suppose it's great and all that we at least got an opportunity to practice for at least one hour with a Tae Kwon Do master, but what can you learn, and learn well, in one hour when you're able to mess around with your friends since the teachers aren't there to control you? The answer: Nothing Stupid kids. They have no discipline these days. -.-

I only work with sais :shifty: nice sharp sais...........

Yeah the weapon that you are thinking off is the Kusari-gama. They would be way hard to use, I think.

BTW ant opportunity for matrial arts is better than none at all. Just when you go take classes, look for the REAL DEAL. Not one that all they do is train you to get a gold medal. One that teaches you how to over come what is in your way. Doesn't have to be a big guy trying to beat you up, but one that you can apply to all aspects in your life.

Good to know, by the way that Kusari-gama seems so weird! you know this guy in a manga "flame of recca" doesn't seem to be using it right acoording to wikipedia. Regardless I don't think I'd want to fight someone who could use that.

@Sukate: they're a different thing altogether @_@

I train with sai.....for about 8 years now :heh: (it can be spelt 2 ways btw: sai and sais) not many ppl use them where i live, i think there's only 2 of us.....

Sais are cool, never met someone who could use them though. If you had to find a counter weapon to them what would you consider?

hmmm..... do you mean for somebody else to use against sai? :think:

Reviving

I practice tae kwon do. WTF style. Scottish champion.!!!

"What the fuck" style?

I wish there were martial arts in school T_T

like a gym class

what are the most popular martial arts out there?

Walking a little off topic... with all those super cool martial moves out there(and from what I been reading from you guys), do you think that a martial artist with enough skillz and dexterity be able to go against a gun or firearm. Now, what I mean to say is that in all sorts of anime, old martial arts movies and books the hero is almost always impervious to bullet fire. For instance may have noticed that ninjas cannot be shot or killed be a bullet (usually), only stabbed with a katana by a equally powerful ninja (who is usually out for vengence or somthing like that...) Anyway professional gunmen vs. super trained martial artist, to who goes the spoils of victory...

Let's be realistic now.

any gunman with a distance of 10-15 feet will win against any martial artist. 5 feet is a different story, I can cover that distance in a very quick move but it would take an extremely skilled person to keep from getting shot.

The whole philosophy of martial arts is that you learn it so you don't have to use it. Anyone to teaches otherwise is full of BS.

A ninja relies on stealth and deception, he could be your gardener, or the Janitor, or even the matenance guy. The whole idea is that you don't know until it's too late. They will usually earn your trust before striking.

Anything you see in the movies is just hollywood garbage.

Ya know...you can't kill ninjas with guns. Its just afact :)

It's just goes against the laws of nature to kill a ninja with a gun...I don't even think its possible.

I'm really tired...

Guns are dishonourable.

Oh and WTF is World taekwondo federation style as opposed to ITF

Internatianal tae kwon do federation.

Oh does anyone here self taught in how to use weapons. I use staff and katana and nunchuka

I practice tae-kwon-do. i also practice kendo. Bokutos and katanas are the best! i have been practicing for 7 years

Guns are dishonourable.

Oh and WTF is World taekwondo federation style as opposed to ITF

Internatianal tae kwon do federation.

Oh does anyone here self taught in how to use weapons. I use staff and katana and nunchuka
Very true^.^

do any of you enter tournaments?

Hey people, try not to double post.

Hey, Who here is learing any kind of Martial Arts?Me I'm learing one that you can only learn from my Uncle in America! my Grandfather is the grand master of the Martial art and I'm planning on following his ways. The name of it is Kamagong, an old Philippino Martial Art. Teaches not streangth but power over your opponent. Teaches you to controll your feelings of anger and hate. Strickly Self-Defence, but you name a boan I can break it.

see ya later

ah so ur philipino?

If memory serves I think he is.

i have my own moves.... they r of no martial arts i know of, i just use them at times of imprtance, It is needent u should have ur own moves, for it could surprise the opponent. Like whenever im sitting ther talkin with my friends id say... hey, i can kill u with that pencil, or i could use that chair as a weapon. Or if i would at my house i would say, Hey, i can kill u with that nail clipper, or i can kill u with that hot coffee. U c, anything is a weapon to me, doesnt need to be anything special. As they always say, "Use your surroundings." And it is true martial arts to not just fight with a made-for-fighting tools. Basically, a true fighter uses everything liftable or movable, as a weapon. Trust me, it works. Im a mysterious man. If u were to be my friend in my local area, u would know more about me, but not much.
If ud like to know how i use all these wierd things as a weapon, feel free to ask.

Like whenever im sitting ther talkin with my friends id say... hey, i can kill u with that pencil, or i could use that chair as a weapon. Or if i would at my house i would say, Hey, i can kill u with that nail clipper, or i can kill u with that hot coffee. Such a nice friend you are!


Trust me, it works. Im a mysterious boy.Sorry, but you're thirteen:heh:


If ud like to know how i use all these wierd things as a weapon, feel free to ask. ... :(

im a young man then

Nah. Boy is more approprate. Young Adults are the trailing edge of teenagers: age 16 to 25. Thirteen is just leaving the tweens and the leading edge of a Young Teenager.

ah, forget it. Lets get back on topic

Well...some one who braggs that much about using anything as a weapon cannot possibly beat one who has real training. Like I said before, "Humility is the key" Sorry but it is true. And beeing self taught how to us a weapon is possible but unlikly that you will be anygood, unless you have had previose training and kinda know how to react to your opponents moves. Because the sinarios you come up with in your head, never come true. Then you will be expecting that sort of fight and they fight different and then you get beat. I don't mean to flame you guys but I know lots of people who think they came up with "un-beatable moves" then a simple shift in weight and they are on the floor looking up at you. And even though you can use anything as a weapon, doesn't nessisaraly mean that it will be effective especially if there is someone who knows what to do. Like the chair for example; the chair is really really big, and too heavy to swing around, so the swings you use can be easly read and predidcted, easly counterd. And the Nail clippers....come on! What the hell are you going to do with them? Throwing them is your best bet, they are way too tiny to really do damage and can easly be taken away.

BTW yes, I am Filippino

*gives Sukate a highfive* Long time no see! I wonder does anyone know how to use that three sectional staff thing? What kind of moves can you do with it?

*high fives back* Yeah haven't been on in a while again. But Do you have a pic or anything of the weapon you are talking about? I can't really picture what you are talking about.

Well...some one who braggs that much about using anything as a weapon cannot possibly beat one who has real training. Like I said before, "Humility is the key" Sorry but it is true. And beeing self taught how to us a weapon is possible but unlikly that you will be anygood, unless you have had previose training and kinda know how to react to your opponents moves. Because the sinarios you come up with in your head, never come true. Then you will be expecting that sort of fight and they fight different and then you get beat. I don't mean to flame you guys but I know lots of people who think they came up with "un-beatable moves" then a simple shift in weight and they are on the floor looking up at you. And even though you can use anything as a weapon, doesn't nessisaraly mean that it will be effective especially if there is someone who knows what to do. Like the chair for example; the chair is really really big, and too heavy to swing around, so the swings you use can be easly read and predidcted, easly counterd. And the Nail clippers....come on! What the hell are you going to do with them? Throwing them is your best bet, they are way too tiny to really do damage and can easly be taken away.

BTW yes, I am Filippino

Well, with the anil clippers, you could throw to the neck of the opponent, this is usally very useful when outnumbered. Throw to the neck of the opponent, causing him to choke for a while because of the sharp tip of it. But I take back the killing part, I guess I could say subdue. And the chair thing, I'm not talkin about thoses office chairs, more of the portable chairs you see everywhere. Sorry about the bragging ya'll, I was a bit worked up. And yeah, I'd say that knowing some type martial arts is a saver a lot. But, to know a list of your own would surprise the opponent allowing him to confuse himself and most probably unable to react fast enough.

um, ive been in tea kwon do for about 6 years (red belt) in america. One year in korea, learned some aikido, kung fu, karate, boxing, and kendo from friends. Weapons i use are throwing stars and knives, nunchucks, kendo sticks, staffs, and my favorite (drumroll) handguns (Co2 powered)!
I mixed up everything i know and made my own martial art! ju taek won (translate loosly into "art of the god fist")

oh, three section staffs? those are hard to use. believe me, i tried. Sukate, pictured a nunchuck with one more bar and chain and the middle is longer. with those you can go over blocks and strike with speed and dexterity. it manuvers over many blocks. Not 2 shabby for a 13 year old huh?

You know what I though was silly? That Brazillian Juda crap.

"Lets dance/fight!"

"Look, im not losing!"

"Well how can you? Were not hitting each other!"

._.

you mean kapuera? dude thas a werid way of dancing. probably get slapped by their girlfriend at the dance for kiking her face in a slow song. heh

Its not dancing, but it looks more like dancing then martial arts.

lol yeah I know what you guys are talking about., Mostly I think it is for show like Tea kwon do is.
Oh yeah now I know what weapon you are talking about. I think that that would be kinda hard to use. I personaly think that the Nunchucks to be just kinda....dumb. I just don't really see the effectiveness of them in a real martial arts fight...

The useness of the nunchucks are really to defend on reallly close body ranges. It is to protect it from direct attacks. Usually it takes a lot of skill and many years of skill to truly use it as so as you use a katana or staff.

Staffs are like the coolest of things btw I can do so much stuff with it its so funny.

lol yeah I know what you guys are talking about., Mostly I think it is for show like Tea kwon do is.
Oh yeah now I know what weapon you are talking about. I think that that would be kinda hard to use. I personaly think that the Nunchucks to be just kinda....dumb. I just don't really see the effectiveness of them in a real martial arts fight...


Many people would argue with that...

Like me, ive done tae kwon do for 6 years (first poom)
and it does help.

Tae Kwon Do. My instructor is pretty strict about knowing your stuff, so I've only got my green belt. I've been doing it for about a year now. I like to think that's not so bad with only one class a week. :P

im trying to teach myself moves from naruto just from looking at the anime but its kind of hard you know? i think ill j ust give up soon lol

im trying to teach myself moves from naruto just from looking at the anime but its kind of hard you know? i think ill j ust give up soon lol I'm having a long debate with myself on whether you were kidding or not.

:\ Sorry if you take this the wrong way, but talking to people who take classes for this stuff and telling them that you're trying to teach yourself from an anime makes you seem a little lame... The characters in Naruto have much more physical ability than anybody(I think) on this board. If you haven't even trained at all, how do you expect to copy anything from a show about people who have trained their entire lives?

Also, please try to use capitalization and proper grammar. It's just a personal pet peeve, but I think people should try to speak and write properly.

Of course he (she?) was kidding. Don't be silly.

:\ I sure hope so.....

lol you see that is what I have been saying my last few posts!, Teaching yourself just from things you have seen on movies and what not does not work!!

Never take anything from a jet li movie and hope it works.

I also found out the secret to flying...
Just use a wire-_-

Ya I Was Joking Because In Naruto They Use Magic, Silly

used to do karate...then stopped...then just learned a bit of fighitng messing around with my friend who's like a black belt in karate does wushu too -___-...and messing around i can pretend i know drunken form but i really don't :P

Lol, I do Wushu.. Haven't been taking classes for long, but I like to think that I can defend myself.. ^_^

Wushu sounds familiar. What is it?

is that the one with eagle claw form? I learnt that form simply because it looked cool. Well It was the only one my friend knew...

Wushu is chinese martial arts.. ^_^

Until I got on this forum, I knew of three martial arts. TKD, karate, and kung fu. Now I know a whole crapload of them.

Isn't the internet grand?

It sure is. Of karate theres plenty............................................ ...........................

I've Mastered Tae Kwon Do, Karate, and Kung Fu.
All of them since I was 6.

Woah,

So how old are you now?

13 :), but let's stay on-topic.

*cough cough* lol i doubt your a master after 6 years, lol, my instructor now, she's a master xD she's been doing wu shu *chinese martial arts* since she was 6, and now she's 43, lol so thats 37 years of martial arts, xD now thats what i call a master, lol, and martial arts is her life, not a side thing too >< me, sunny kimiko and shizuno all learn from her lol

on a side not, bo staff's are fun to learn <3

It's average two years per martial arts style to master, for me. I would call it mastered, but rather completed the style. I'm currently learning Tempo Karate.

i wouldnt say mastered, after all, i'd doubt something thats been developed over thousands of years can be mastered in 2 years, sure, you may have mastered some forms, but i woudlnt say styles, styles take many more years to master, 10 years, training every day would sound about right

Meh, I guess that's about right then. Ok I mastered some 'forms'.

Lol, forms are like excercises, examples are long fist form, sudden fist forn, bo staff form, spear form, long sword form ect.. Lol, I'm currently learning long fist and bo staff.. ^_^ They're sooooooooo fun!!

I've completed Bo-Staff, Nunchuke, and Sais. I just don't consider them to be Martial Arts, because I learned them whilst doing Tae-Kwon-Do.

Someday im gonna go to Japan
n study Shotokan so then
i can do Tatsumaki Senpukyakyu
or Sho Ryu Ken
jus like Ryu and Ken
haha
maybe i can learn Hadou-Ken
Or the Dark-Hadou
hehehe

Japan is a wonderful place. There's so much to do, and their candy is really good ^_^.

Candy.. mmmm... Lol, That's why I do Wu shu.. To keep the kilos off.. And to learn to defend myself against stupid guys who are strong.. XD

Uhm i can't say i know a lot of martial arts, but anyone planning on going serious into it should check out Jeet Kune Do (Bruce Lee's style). It's more or less street fighting. Examples of things Bruce Lee would encourage during fights that most find "low:"
-Hit in the groin
-Poke the eyes
-Pull hair for control of opponent's body
-etc.

basically...do waht works
...i should do wushu too :P i've been annoyed by everyone to do it XD

@Zoso: Lol, That's not low, just trying to win using good moves.. If the opponent had any sense they would do the same.. Not meaning anyoffense to people who think moves like that are low... XD

@aznanimedude: Lol, you should, It's very good for keeping fit and learning self defense at the same time.. Although I have to say the keeping fit bit doesn't work for me.. We (me, shiz and itachi) all go to Yum Cha for lunch every time we finish training.. XD

basically...do waht works
...i should do wushu too :P i've been annoyed by everyone to do it XD

Uhm.. what the hell is wushu?! XD

EDIT: Kinda sounds like food or some wierd kama-sutra position...

wushu is a style of chinese martial arts (if i'm not mistaken)
actually though i'd rather try and see if i can find some filipino martial arts place nearby...if not (prolly won't be able to find one) i'll see if i can do some wushu training XD

The only martial arts opportunities we have in my area is an extremely overpriced karate school and my TKD instructor. Thankfully, the only thing we have to pay for is our dobak and belts. Otherwise, Iwouldn't even be learning at all. :heh:


EDIT: Kinda sounds like food or some wierd kama-sutra position...

:lol:

@Asiananmedude: Well if you have read the past posts that I did...like the very first post of the forum, you would see that I am Filippino and I do a Filippino Martial arts. Called Kamagong. Named after the Kamagong wood, beautiful to watch and look at, but when handled, it is tough, and strong. We do Kali fighting (duel fighting sticks) Learning it from my Grandfather is really the only place you can learn it in America...(seeing that he is the Grandmaster) My grandfather was dubed the name "The Turtle" here in America, because he is small and looks slow and harmless, but will get tough as the shell when he needs too.
This here is a picture of the book he gave me. That is him on the cover.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a196/Sukate/other/grandpa.jpg
So yeah...if you live anywhere near the state of Utah...

lol i haven't seen you in forever sukate...i know that u do that...:P i have good memory that's why i said...prolly wont' be able to find any XD
lol but because i need something to do...i'll save up some money randomly fly out to utah and be like SUKATE'S GRANDPA...TEACH ME TT_TT

lol I forgot that you knew. I have a bad memory...I think one too many blows to the head. lol nah just kidding..it is because of something else. But anyway...yeah Kamagong is a grappling Martial arts like Judo I guess you could say.

Lol, you haven't posted on here in ages... well, at least my definition of ages...:P

lol I know ^^ I've just been so dang busy that I havn't had time to do anything on the intarweb. ^^

Have you guys watch the special they have on the TV? Called "Fight Sience"? just wondering if it was any good.

I personally practice kenjutsu, some jujutsu, some judo and some ninjutsu. That is to say I know techniques from the latter three and practice the first regularly. I have learned that improvosation is one of the keys to success, especially if one can blend several styles into one fluid technique. Instead of relying soely on one style in combat I weave a few in to keep my oponent off balance. It's fun really.

For Hiei: Jujutsu has been called an art that is both soft and hard at once. Way back when in ancient Japan this was practiced, but too many people died in sparring sessions. This led to the creation of Judo, which is a not-as-dangerous form of Jujutsi. Jujutsu focuses on grapples, joint locks, a few strikes/sweeps, submission holds and other techniques. Basically, you paralyze an oponent by manipulation of their limbs and joints, placing them in a submissive hold and proceeding to break their bones. It uses leaverage as the ultimate tool. Most joints work best going in one direction. Jujutsu makes them go in the other direction. The philosophy of jujutsu is simple: why wrestle your oponent to the ground when you can break their knee and let them fall on their own?

Ninjutsu, on the other hand, is IMHO the ultimate fighting style in terms of sheer efficiency. Quite simply, it's focus is on killing the oponent as fast and as well as possible. This is accomplished through a variety of means, each one exploiting a vital weakness in the human anatomy. Nerve strikes, knife hands, organ rupturing and other techniques were ninjutsu's secret weapon. You know the ninjas? Those guys that are better than pirates? Ninjutsu was their way of killing. It does not rely on strength as Muay Thai does, nor speed as Kung Fu, but rather superior technique and skill.

Does that help?

Heh, jujutsu sounds a lot like Kamagong ^^

You guys hear about this crap "Yellow Bamboo?" My opinion: UTTER BULLSH#@ against a real Martial arts, it does not stand a chance. Even in a regular street fight. It won't help you.

Raise your hand everyone who's into martial arts because it's considered cool and asian!

lol no, I do it because it is my grandfathers legacy, and I want to carry it on for him ^^ (even thou it is cool and I am asian...)

I got into TKD because my friend made me come to a class and she kicked my @$$ during my first class. Plus I got a workout, so I figured it'd be good exersize. :heh: I was way out of shape.

Well, I guess you could use it as just an exersize.

I don't really know why I like it, per se. I don't look or act like somebody who would be into martial arts, but I still go to class every week and have the third highest belt in my class. It's good stress relief too.

I fence. I suck. >^nn^< Anyone ever heard of Gatka?

hmm..never heard of it before...just did a search..looks interesting.

I went up a belt! =^-^= Yay! I'm a blue belt now.

I just figured I'd post seeming as how m=nobody else has in like two months...

@^ :congrats

I find that most martial arts these days concentrate on flashy movements and forms. I find that pretty useless. In my opinion its best to stick with simple strikes that are more effective. Also, forms don't have much use in a real fight, because its a series of planned movements (like dancing), fights will never go as planned unless its practise sparring.
the above statement is just my opinion from observing and expirance, but feel free to correct me if you feel i'm wrong. and also to make it clear, i said most martial arts not all. for exapmle JKD (the type of martial arts bruce lee uses) doesn't teach forms but just plain self defence, like various ways of blocking, holds, trips, and striking weak spots of the body.

I just went for my induction for Krav Maga.

"There is no 'art' in Krav Maga. Krav Maga is self defense, not a martial 'art'."

Let's see.

Wing chun ftw ._.;

My partner and fellow inductee was a girl, a head shorter and almost skinny, but nowhere near anorexic/starvation boney. She did Wing Chun for one year.

During the induction, we were taught some simple forearm blocks for simple swinging attacks, and we would practice on each other.

My gawd but were my forearms bruised before the night was over. Apparently one year of Wing Chun turns your arms into bars of steel or something like that. I also discovered that I have tremendous difficulty when attempting to hit her using a direct punch, as that would involve contact with the bouncy bits. =|

My first day at TKD my friend gave me bruises on my forearms the size of tennis balls. It's not normally like that, but she says she was "welcoming" me.
Then she beat the crap out of me in sparring. Lol.

For you guys that train in gi. (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2527746028152356520)

My partner and fellow inductee was a girl, a head shorter and almost skinny, but nowhere near anorexic/starvation boney. She did Wing Chun for one year.

During the induction, we were taught some simple forearm blocks for simple swinging attacks, and we would practice on each other.

My gawd but were my forearms bruised before the night was over. Apparently one year of Wing Chun turns your arms into bars of steel or something like that. I also discovered that I have tremendous difficulty when attempting to hit her using a direct punch, as that would involve contact with the bouncy bits. =|
Yeah it hurts like hell when you're getting it down. Eventually you learn to hold everything at the proper angle and you don't need arms of steel XD
I can never get the whole 45 degree angle of the wrist right ._.;

I practice the ancient art of Muay Thai for 7 years, probably because I'm thai. Tony Jaa is the best! Check him out (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5123118953949658116).

Hay guys, how many times to do you go training every week?

I have class every Friday. I'll get to go on Mondays too as soon as Driver's Ed is over.

isang bala kalang...

isang bala kalang...You are only worth one bullet? Here in Ichigo's, we post translations if we're posting in any other languages beside English.

Also, I suspect that this thread is not for you if you're not into martial arts.