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Marlon
July 12th, 2005, 05:17 pm
I've only been playing the piano for 6 and a half months, and I've never taken classes. Please tell me my mistakes, so I can correct them.

I decided to call this song "Cronicula" because it's where one of my books take place. I know it sounds like the finale of something where everything is back to normal, but, hey, that was the point! :D

Noir7
July 12th, 2005, 06:05 pm
What's a .gp4 file? :mellow:

Noir
July 12th, 2005, 06:52 pm
Sorry but i can´t open the file to listen your song?

Which program do you use?
We only use Final Programs so we can´t open the file like .gp4 .
Only Mus. :(

Klonoa
July 12th, 2005, 07:42 pm
Its something called guitar pro? anyway heres the midi.
I thought it was good for a first (if it was :heh:) Some parts seem a bit random but a good start. Its alot better than my first one.
You should export as midi instead of saving the .gp4

Marlon
July 12th, 2005, 10:18 pm
Thanks for the comment!

I'll put my songs in midi from now on (my bad! :D )

Here's another song. The name doesn't suit it at all!

Dragon
July 12th, 2005, 10:41 pm
Cronicula

Wow thats very good for a fist composition! A couple of things could be changed, like the piano solo near the middle. It doesn't really have the "heavy" feeling like the rest of the piece. Of course, if thats how you wanted it then ignore my previous comment. :heh: Also there are some parts in the song that need more harmony, and some that need more melody (if you can find them, I don't have time right now to listen to the song over again and tell you when they are) Pretty good song, I could easily see it as a backround theme for the place in your story (judging only by the name, cause I've never read the book).

Old

Yes you're right the name doesn't suit the piece at all. The guitars sound great! What program are you using? I don't really like all the grace notes and the sliding up and down effects. (Sorry, I dont know what its called) You used too much of it. Its incredible for a second composition.

Marlon
July 13th, 2005, 12:37 am
O.K. I know I've been putting a lot of songs for one day, but this will be my last for today. Oh, and Dragon, I use a program called Guitar Pro 4, but, as you can see, it's not all about guitar.

It's a classic guitar piece, and I would've loved to have added more instruments, so I was wondering if you guys can also tell me what intstruments you think would make the song better, as well as a critique. :heh:

Blombrink
July 13th, 2005, 12:57 am
Cronicula
Erm.....the beginning was not so good. Maybe you knew that. The the song got better too the middle.

Lost in the Dark
Bad left hand! Don´t make the left hand to the same tones over and over and over ad over again. It´s very boring. The melody was ´okey`.

Dragon
July 13th, 2005, 01:03 am
Lost in the Dark

I agree with Blombrink completely. Variation would be nice in harmony, and the melody needs to be worked on.

Selinity
July 13th, 2005, 05:11 am
gotta love the Old midi ^^ although i agree what others say, but i still love the way the guitar sounds.

your not doing bad. Besides I'm new with composing as well, we just have to work harder ^^

atma
July 13th, 2005, 05:18 am
i really liked both of them, and i will pretend not to care what almost anyone one says for what appears to be the rest of my week. then i will revert to ignoring everyone.

the first one was great.
the second one? well, um..
the second one was... umm... the second one i listend to? ninja! :ph34r: poof!

Marlon
July 13th, 2005, 06:32 pm
Well... It sounds like nobody really enjoyed my songs too much. :sweat:

Oh, and guitar doesn't have a left hand.

Hopefully, you'll like this one. I tried to make it jazzy, but then again, I don't know any blues scales. I called it Nature's Traffic because I imagine a busy place with bugs going everywhere in a hurry, kinda like a "Bug New York."

Dragon
July 14th, 2005, 05:42 am
No we do like your songs! We're just trying to help you get better.

Nature's Traffic

It sounds sort of jazzy, but not enough. Maybe start with a blues progression and work off of it? It does sound like a Bug New York! This song would make a great town theme!

Marlon
July 14th, 2005, 07:31 pm
Since I live in Miami, I thought of making something related to the beach. I liked experimenting with the congos. ^_^

So yeah, I like it a lot. Hope you do, too!

Shizeet
July 15th, 2005, 10:51 pm
Not bad, though you could've thrown in a some more bongos for some contrast in the drumline (or better yet, add some bass kicks or toms); the piece felt like it had a very upbeat rhymth, but wasn't quite expressed with the drums. Also, some of the melodic guitar parts are kind of dissonant with the chords. It'd been nice if you'd made it somewhat longer, as it kinda feels repetitive right now; I liked how you added that contrasting section near the end, though it could've been much longer. But overall, it's still a pretty good job for someone of your experience - so keep on going ;).

Marlon
July 16th, 2005, 03:09 am
Thanks for the encouragement!

This piece was actually inspired by a chord progression I found out when I first started playing; I always found it so catchy! :D

So now I made a piece based on it, although I would loved to have made it longer. :(

Dragon
July 31st, 2005, 05:41 am
Tropical Theme

At the beginning it sounded like the beach, but when the melody came in it wasn't really "beachy" anymore. It still worked with the song, though. I liked the percussion instruments you chose and their parts but, agreeing with spc1st, you could have added more instruments.

Worth the Risk

There wasn't really a melody in this one. (which you probably already know) As a backround for something the piece would do fine but, by itself...well just add a melody and it'll be great. It is a catchy progression but thats all it is.

It's good to see many different styles of music coming from you. You're doing great!

deathraider
July 31st, 2005, 05:57 pm
Yeah, there really isn't anything in Worth the Risk for me. You really do need to add a melody, and maybe make the percussion blend a little better. I liked the Tropical Theme, though.

Marlon
July 31st, 2005, 11:31 pm
Thanks for the critiques! ^_^

Well, I am trying to tackle different styles, and now I made an RPG song! It turned to sound kinda like an airship song. I repeats, so it doesn't really have an ending. :heh:

Shizeet
August 1st, 2005, 08:56 pm
Airship theme, eh? I've just recently entered a contest where composing Airship themes for (one of three) RPG settings was the... theme. Though my entry ended up getting way too out of hand, I still learned quite a bit about composing an airship theme through the comments of the (rather experienced) judges.

Anyways, let me give you a few tips - first, when you are in the soaring in the air, what feelings are immediately provoked? Physically, it tends to be a sensation of speed (or at least we are led to believe for these fantastic airships); try to make your piece more rhymthically charged and swift - up the tempo some, and utilize quick woodwind runs or whatnot to emphasize speed and even temerity. Secondly, the sensation of flying tends to be associated with emotional feelings of wonderment and awe, so stylistically try to keep you piece laced with happy, major-y chords throughout, or chords with that evoke a sense of grandness. Some other considerations are to keep the piece generally free-flowing, as if it's direction was more or less to the whim of the winds, as airships often may be, so try to avoid strict rhythmic sections for extend periods of time (though avoid overdoing the dramatic transations - that might fit the image of an airship in a distressful situation, but it wouldn't work well for a "generic" airship theme).

Attached below is probably my favorite entry (it was actually a collaboration from two of my most respected "fellow" composers) from that contest, and it employs pretty much all the devices I've listed above (though it may be a bit too dramatic with it's constant tempo changes). Give it a listen (and check out other well-know airship themes, such as those from the Final Fantasy series), and see if you can't see catch the ideas I've listed (and probably more, too).

Noir7
August 1st, 2005, 09:04 pm
ooh, I agree with spc1st. Those are some good pointers, and I like the outcome of it =P

@Marlon: That didn't sound like an airship song X_X

deathraider
August 1st, 2005, 10:43 pm
What's with airships and RPG's anyways?! I liked the song, Marlon, but it doesn't neccessarily make me picture "airship!" The only thing I don't like is the French Horn in the Background. It sounded too fake:bleh: . I think you should just change the instrument. The rest of the song sounds really good. I think it sounds more like a forest haven or something of that type. It's really cool though.

Marlon
August 4th, 2005, 09:42 pm
Wow, that critique helped me for airship songs. :)

Here's a new song I made. I made this song for my brother to show my support in everything he does. I like it, even though it's very short. :heh:

Klonoa
August 5th, 2005, 05:05 am
Its a Nice little Piece. Love the guitar part.
Its a little short would have been nicer to be a little longer at least :heh:

Marlon
August 5th, 2005, 10:04 pm
Yeah, I might make it longer some day. :)

I don't what it is with me and guitars! This one has one, too. It has no climax, so it's kinda background-ish. :heh:

King Ryudo
August 6th, 2005, 12:59 am
This is a very nice song. I enjoy hearing it and i can't wait for your next song.
:)

Marlon
August 6th, 2005, 01:09 am
I made this song like a week ago, and then I switched the guitar with the keyboard, so don't ask why the keyboard starts bending the notes and using vibrato and stuff like that. :heh:

EDIT: Ignore this post. :whistle:

yellowmonkey121
August 7th, 2005, 05:57 pm
i wish i can rate the airship theme spc1st attached. LoL. well.. my favorite song was the tropical theme, although the title doesn't quite fit the song besides the seashore noise. i can see some guy training for something important on the beach or something. 7.5/10 i give you.

Marlon
August 7th, 2005, 06:48 pm
Thanks! ^_^

The problem is, I'm having troubles getting a good song starters. I've been trying out chord progressions, but they don't ever work! <_<

So far, I just made this new song.

yellowmonkey121
August 7th, 2005, 07:02 pm
i think 'sweet dreams' is the best so far. you kept your melody and i liked the steel drum or vibraphone? in the middle of the song.

Marlon
August 14th, 2005, 09:50 pm
Oh, you mean the Music Box? Took me a while to get what I wanted (I had to put 2 consecutive dotted eighth notes, which I don't do too often :heh: ).

This new song's kinda emotional, I think because it's in A Minor. :think:

Klonoa
August 15th, 2005, 05:49 am
A Silver Bond - This is a nice little piece. Very peaceful I like the guitar and the addition of the perc. I thought this song could have had even more added to it though. :)

Marlon
August 18th, 2005, 10:58 pm
I'm glad to hear that. :D

Well, here's my first piano solo. I think it came out O.K., for a first. Oh, and I couldn't think of a better name for the piece. :heh:

deathraider
August 18th, 2005, 11:14 pm
It's a pretty good piece, but the ending seems really premature, and I think it could have done with a stronger melody. Besides that It's a solid composition.

Klonoa
August 19th, 2005, 04:53 am
Moment of truth- This was pretty good. :)
The melody seemed maybe to go off sometimes but it would come together.
I thought you could have added more though, like I guess I was expecting somehing else to come in. :heh:

Marlon
August 21st, 2005, 02:30 pm
Thanks! :D

I finally came up with something I liked. It doesn't have too much of a climax, but I like it a lot. :)

Noir7
August 21st, 2005, 02:38 pm
This song contains too many musical faults to be enjoyable. First off, a guitar can't play that way, and a flute doesn't do octaves.

Dragon
August 21st, 2005, 04:18 pm
A Silver Bond

The guitar part in this song was great! And then the piano part goes perfectly with the guitar part. But from there you just kept adding more parts while keeping the others the same. I would change the melody on piano at least once through the song. Also the ending wasn't too great; It was too sudden.

Moment of Truth

You're right it was an o.k. song. Pretty good for your first one . I didn't like the ending though. Like the first one, it was too sudden.

Keep Your Cool

Well the song did fit it's name, but that was probably the best part. I didn't really like it that much. The melody was repeated too much, and it wasn't to great anyway. Like Noir7 said, the guitar was definitly the wrong instrument to use. It felt like it just stopped and the end, too.

Overall, your songs are pretty good. Since you are so good at creating supporting parts I'd suggest spending a little more time on the melody and the endings.

Marlon
August 21st, 2005, 09:31 pm
O.K. The flutes were the vocals, but it's in midi (obviously that's the best I could do -_- ). Next, a guitar can play those chords; it's perfectly possible unless you're missing an arm or something.

And the thing is, my problem is just that, Dragon, I don't know how to teach myself melodies and endings :unsure:

Klonoa
August 21st, 2005, 11:48 pm
Keep your cool- The melody is not that bad, but there could have been some more stuff added to make it more enjoyable though. And I can understand about the vocal/flute thing, but maybe you could have put strings instead. :unsure:

Marlon
August 24th, 2005, 09:59 pm
This is my new song! :sweat:

deathraider
August 24th, 2005, 11:46 pm
Silver Bond

The initial melody in the song is good, but it needs something different. It pretty much just keeps repeating as new instruments come in. It needed another section of the melody, and it was too short.

The Good Life
I didn't love some of the intervals you used to create harmony, but it has good percussion. One more problem is that the ending seemed boring. It sounded good until the left hand started playing alone.

Dragon
August 29th, 2005, 11:36 pm
The Good Life

See you do know how to make a melody! It was pretty good in fact. A couple suggestions though. When the strings first come in, make them softer; It masks the melody which the piano is still playing. Second, the piano part I just mentioned woud do well if it had a variation of the melody. Right after that when the strings play a different melody, it should be that volume and the piano is fine how it is there, but I would change the strings to a different intsrument mabye a horn or a flute. Whatever instrument you want would be fine. The percussion is very good until the last two notes with the cymbal. I would take that out and end with an instrument.

These are just suggestions though so do whatever you want with them.

Marlon
August 30th, 2005, 09:20 pm
Thanks for the suggestions! :)

Don't know exactly why I called it "Fortune Cookies," but that I did. :sweat:

deathraider
August 31st, 2005, 01:23 am
Fortune Cookies
Um...uh...it has percussion, which is more than I can say for my pieces...but this song kind of rubbed me the wrong way.
1) It left hand harmony in the beginning didn't work for it. It needed to move down and not up.
2) The melody wasn't catchy, and was VERY questionable.
3) Some of the instruments you selected sounded very bad, at least with my patches.

Marlon
September 3rd, 2005, 03:14 am
Don't know what you mean by "VERY questionable," but anyways, here's a new song I made. :)

Dragon
September 3rd, 2005, 04:17 pm
Fortune Cookies

I don't know deathraider, I kinda liked this one. The melody on the flute was a little weak, but it's nothing that couldn't be fixed. The guitar solo at the end was okay. Good job tying it into the song. The harmony really helped it too. It would have sounded out of place without it.

Steep Ice

Like some of your other songs you failed to have a melody and a decent ending. Im guessing you wanted this as a backround piece so you didn't even try to make a melody. Thats fine but.... anyway the only other thing I didn't like was the ending but it was probably ment to repeat so it doesn't need one. The percussion was really good in this song. Nice job.

Marlon
September 3rd, 2005, 04:26 pm
I know I didn't put a melody in Steep Ice, but then again, I haven't made the vocals, which is usually my melodies in my more rock-ish songs, since I use mainly chords and power chords. :heh:

This song is kind of old, and its supposed to be a sort of relaxing background music. ^_^

deathraider
September 3rd, 2005, 08:16 pm
Take your Time
I think you put the voices in the background too heavy. It felt much too loud, and a little jubled. It also is short. Too short.

Marlon
September 4th, 2005, 01:22 am
I also thought it was short, but oh well. :unsure:

Now I'm working on another melody-less song, but it's another rock one, so I hope it's O.K. with you people. :sweat:

Marlon
September 4th, 2005, 04:28 am
O.K. Forget that rock one for now, and sorry for doubleposting! :sweat:

I started messing around with the harp after being inspired by the Faery Fountain song of Zelda: Majora's Mask, and then I added a piano and strings.

This is what I got! :)

Sorry, but it's terribly short. I hope to add more to it in the future. :heh:

Apollo XI
September 4th, 2005, 07:20 am
Nice and peaceful piece. The only thing I didn't quite agree with was the use of a harp AND piano. They're both very similar instruments--the only difference they have to me is just timbre. (I tend to think of a harp as simply a plucked piano...looks a lot like one, too, if you think about it.) So, I think you should've picked one or the other (preferably the harp, for the kind of mood you wanted to convey). But, nonetheless, it was good. ^_^

Alfonso de Sabio
September 5th, 2005, 11:30 pm
The first few bars of the main melody are good. I especially like their re-entry towards the end. But it seems like the piece only meanders between those two points. The broken chords were a nice touch.

EDIT:
The piece is such a juxtaposition to your avatar and sig.

Marlon
September 16th, 2005, 12:22 am
I'm finally back. Sorry for the wait-up, but I have like three school projects already and homework is piling up on me. :\

I finally came up with this song. It has a harp again. :P

Klonoa
September 16th, 2005, 01:15 am
This was a good decent song, I liked the chord
progression. Around 0:40 I also liked the guitar addition, but I was
expecting something else to happen instead of ending. :)

Dragon
September 16th, 2005, 01:54 am
Star Tree

I don't think anything was wrong with this song. Nice job!

yellowmonkey121
September 16th, 2005, 05:00 am
The 3rd measure was kinda unexpected for me after the first 2 measures.... but I like that. It just shows people have their own style. Anywho... I personally thought your drum wasn't suitable for this song. Your song is light than dark (well... that's what I think 'cause of the way you started the 3rd measure) so you need to have a lighter drum parts. Maybe claps or cowbells would do. I also think it was too packed in the middle.

Marlon
September 18th, 2005, 10:32 pm
Thanks, you guys. ^_^

I just made a new song, and immediately started going all like, "Neko!" So yeah... :shifty:

yellowmonkey121
September 19th, 2005, 05:36 am
I am actually Korean but I took some Japanese sessions... and if my memory is correct... Neko means cat... am I right? I could definitely feel the Catty in this song. Again... it feels like one part of the drum. I don't know the name of that sound... but I think it is the first beat in the second measure. Try to change that to something like cowbell or triangle or at least something that sounds light. that's my thought.

Marlon
September 20th, 2005, 07:43 pm
Yes, "neko" does mean "cat."

But anyways, here is my new song, and I'm sorry for the uncreative name. :\

EDIT: Sorry, but I think the clarinet was an octave to high. :sweat: I fixed it!

Marlon
September 28th, 2005, 10:31 pm
O...K... Looks like nobody noticed my last post. :sweat:

Oh, well. Here's another piece. It's rock, and it lacks melody in parts, which I know, so you don't have to point it out. ^_^

Oh, and please ignore my previous post since it seems nobody liked it. :heh:

deathraider
September 29th, 2005, 03:06 am
Not, Venn Diagram was not bad, though I didn't love the midi patches on my computer, but that is not your fault AT ALL. The only thing that bothered me was that the beginning was a bit shaky.

yellowmonkey121
October 1st, 2005, 09:29 pm
I liked the beginning. I think the whole song would have been lot better if your chord progression was better. Ooo I like 1:42 - 2:04. 7/10 gj. The drum part was pretty cool too.

Marlon
November 11th, 2005, 11:11 pm
It's been a while since I've made a song on Guitar Pro. I've been recording stuff lately, and those compositions take up at least 6 MB each, so... <_<

Yeah. Now I've made a short little background music, maybe for an RPG sorta thing. :heh:

Hope you enjoy! :)

Milchh
November 11th, 2005, 11:45 pm
Preety cool. nice

One_Winged
November 13th, 2005, 12:01 am
I love your work man one can tell you compose with the heart instead of the brain... i love it...:cry: sorry man im quite drunk, but damn your shit rocks!

for a twelve year old this is magnificent.

keep it up!

Edit: sorry bout that, but it was truthfull

Marlon
November 13th, 2005, 04:17 am
Thank you! ^_^

Well, another song, somewhat related to Evelyn of the Twilight. ;)

EDIT: I'm very doubtful about th drums. I might take 'em off. :unsure:

deathraider
November 15th, 2005, 05:22 am
Oh no, they all know your age! Hahahaha...just kidding.

Milchh
November 15th, 2005, 11:53 pm
I may not of liked the melody, but you did a daring and rare thing of the piano constantly playing. was neat to hear that.

Marlon
November 17th, 2005, 12:41 am
I made a new song! :heh:

Anyways, it's a combination of piano, two flutes, drums, and some strings. Tried to set a rather happy mood, maybe a little day-dreamy or something of the sort. ^_^

Milchh
November 18th, 2005, 12:25 am
Nice arrangment.

just, didnt get MUCH of the sence "day-dreamy"

Marlon
November 18th, 2005, 10:57 pm
I meant.... Blah! I don't know what I meant! :heh:

Demonic Wyvern
November 19th, 2005, 11:58 am
lol, while listening to this song, I kept getting a picture in my head of happy sunshine people walking down a road! :lol:

deathraider
November 24th, 2005, 05:59 am
I like the instrumentation, Marlon!

Marlon
December 4th, 2005, 12:18 am
Thanks, guys! ^_^

I made up a song a few days back on my keyboard. It's just a little tune, and, well, here's me playing it. :sweat:

One_Winged
December 4th, 2005, 01:50 am
you have a really nice tune going here! it sounds like the first part of a nocturne or something. looking forward to hearing the rest of it!:)

Milchh
December 4th, 2005, 02:24 am
Sounds kind of like Chopin's Nocturne in C# minor (op. posth)

Marlon
December 9th, 2005, 09:41 pm
Well, I thought I'd make a song to propose to my school's music teacher, and see if he'd approve of it so the chorus to sing it. I know it sounds kinda stupid, but I really wanna give it a shot. :)

So tell me what you guys think about it (unfortunately, I am limited to three chorus sections and a piano)! :sweat:

EDIT: By the way, I still haven't done the dynamics. :heh:

Shizeet
December 11th, 2005, 07:20 am
Well, this piece to me sounds like you've put a lot more emphasis on the piano than on the choir. Most of the time, the alto and soprano are doubled, and really don't offer much variation other than repeating the main motif (in contrast, the piano moves signicantly more in range and rhymth).

My advice to you is to simply spread out the voicings, and possibly ditch the piano for a tenor section if you can't fit any more staves in. Also, try to write each part so that it falls under it's comfortable range for the most part (having such a high bass section seems rather pointless - why not just use tenor or contralto?). More development via modulation would be nice - if it's just a simple piece, you could probably get away without an elaborate melody, but some harmonic transition seems certainly in order. See if you can't work on it some more before submitting it.

deathraider
December 16th, 2005, 11:11 pm
Just because it's the lowest part doesn't mean it's the bass part, though. Anyways...you should DEFINITELY work on the vocal harmony, because it isn't very interesting, and at the moments were it is, the harmony is too cacophonous.

One_Winged
December 16th, 2005, 11:48 pm
Well, I thought I'd make a song to propose to my school's music teacher, :

And here I was, thinking you were somewhat homo-phobic... just kidding!
:heh:

the choir part was a little messy I think, it will be hard to sing...
and too little progression to make it interesting to sing.
the chords are basicly the same throughout.

but for some possitive critisism, I think you are making progress compossition-wise.

one more thing I liked the last song better than this one....

deathraider
December 17th, 2005, 11:34 pm
:eyebrow:

One_Winged
December 18th, 2005, 03:02 am
I was just kiddin´!!! no hard feelings.:bleh:

Shizeet
December 18th, 2005, 10:21 am
Just because it's the lowest part doesn't mean it's the bass part, though.

Actually, I'm pretty sure it does, at least according to all the theory stuff I've glanced over before. Though if not, the particular way he's using it definitely makes them akin to the "bass" parts of standard voicing conventions.

Marlon
December 18th, 2005, 04:45 pm
That was a BAD joke, One Winged. <_<

Anywho, that was my first song with any sort of choir/chorus stuff, so I just composed as I would compose for any other sort of song. I do not know standard ranges, what the hell each part is supposed to do, or, for that matter, anything at all about choir/chorus stuffs.

So I guess it was just a random shot at it. :heh:

Well, I made a new composition. And well... for some reason (I must've been high or something :think: ), I made a song with piano, a flute-kinda instrument, drums, and, I know it's weird, guitar harmonics. Believe it or not, I actually like the harmonics. :heh:

Anyways, I present to you... Adventures of the Spirit (as if it was so amazing XD )!

Milchh
December 18th, 2005, 11:15 pm
I don't know. 50/50 on my decition. Kind good, and kind not-so-good lol.

Marlon
December 19th, 2005, 03:46 pm
I don't follow... But here's a new piece! Well, actually it isn't new. :think:

This is a song I composed a few months back, and well, I modified it. Doesn't even sound like the same song as the old version, and I added what I call an "antiquing" effect... :shifty:

Hope you guys like it! :lol:

Milchh
December 19th, 2005, 11:35 pm
! LoL ! Don't take it the wrong way.. but, nice Christmas Song !

Marlon
December 20th, 2005, 01:23 am
It sounds like a Christmas song? :think:

Milchh
December 20th, 2005, 02:19 am
I get the vibe of it. I just get the feel that it sounds christmas-like. Mainly it's minor, major, minor, major, minor, major etc... much like Pachebell's Canon.

Hard to explain, but it can be defined !

deathraider
December 20th, 2005, 05:42 am
Yes I like this piece, for the most part.

Marlon
January 6th, 2006, 11:35 pm
O.K. This song was inspired by the song of my carousel, which is a gift from my grandma and I plan on making a... "hereditary" object? Is that what they're called?

Anywho, hopefully you guys like it... :heh:

Constaneum
January 7th, 2006, 12:21 am
Music Box? HEHEHE. I love the instrument but Marlon, i think it's a bit too fast for a music box style melody. Overall, it's still quite ok. i'll rate it 8/10. ^^

Marlon
January 7th, 2006, 04:11 am
Thanks! ^_^

deathraider
January 7th, 2006, 05:18 am
I think this song is a great leap! You should, however, make sure you keep improving on it to make it even better, because there are a lot of little things you could change to make it superb. One thing I would suggest is changing the melody in the beginning (at around 27 seconds in) especially making the repeated notes at the end of the phrases have little variations to make is more interesting and pleasant,, and the same for other parts thoughout the song with the same characteristics. Besides that, you just need to check some of the chords in the song and try to make them more interesting.

septermagick
January 8th, 2006, 01:35 am
Music Box - My Dreams
I remember this song... Yeah you gave me a preview...You didn't mess it up like you thought you would. But I pretty much agree with deathraider on this. Still. It is good. I would prefer a fast song in a music box anyway. lol

Milchh
January 8th, 2006, 01:47 am
What a petit and cute melody you made there Marlon.

Alfonso de Sabio
January 25th, 2006, 02:58 pm
I very much like the beginning. I think, however, that the piece kind of loses itself. Although rhythmical freedom can be fun, it sounds out of control in spots. Also (this is more of a personal thing) I think the drum set makes it sound cheesy.

But, you did something a while back that I don't think got the attention it deserved. I really liked "Lost in the Dark." I haven't listened to every song on the thread, but that's my favorite that I've heard.

deathraider
January 26th, 2006, 02:24 am
Here you go!

Shizeet
January 26th, 2006, 07:25 pm
Here you go!

?? What's this for/from ??

EDIT: In that case, I guess I'll comment on it ;): This sounds like a pretty big improvement upon many of your other pieces in that it has a pretty smooth harmonic and melodic flow. It also sounds like an improv piece to me in that it's pretty linear in structure. But if it isn't, I guess some improvements I can suggest is to isolate the melody more, and give it more sections. There's also more reverb than I'd liked (and thus increases the mid-range frequencies, causing the left hand parts end up sounding too present), but other than that, not a bad job at all. Keep it up.

deathraider
January 26th, 2006, 07:29 pm
It's Marlon's. He had me convert it to MP3 for him.

One_Winged
January 26th, 2006, 10:43 pm
Great job!! both deathraider and Marlon, though i have to agree with Shizeet... hope I&#180;ll hear some more songs soon!

Alfonso de Sabio
January 27th, 2006, 12:20 am
I REALLY like the beginning and the end. The bridge was a little weak and uncontrolled, but I REALLY REALLY like the beginning and end. I'd go for a much slower melody in the middle. It just doesn't fit between those book-ends.

Marlon
January 27th, 2006, 09:52 pm
Thanks, peoples! ^_^


I really liked "Lost in the Dark."

Everyone hated that song. XD

deathraider
January 28th, 2006, 02:55 am
I really like the interesting rhythm in the middle Marlon.

Marlon
January 29th, 2006, 12:37 am
In which song? Lost In The Dark or the new one? :think:

deathraider
January 30th, 2006, 05:50 am
The new one.

Marlon
February 14th, 2006, 01:10 am
Meh. I've been refraining too much on which compositions to post on here, so heck, I'll just post whatever I make! :P

Well, here's a little tune I got going. ;)

One_Winged
February 14th, 2006, 10:17 am
thats a nice little tune but you´ll have to another part into it.

Dawnstorm
February 14th, 2006, 10:47 am
Everyone hated that song. XD

Actually, I liked "Lost in the dark", too. I think it should stay a guitar solo. I can imagine a good guitar player making this sound great!

***

I also liked Music Box. :)

***

Lullaby is nice, the way all the instruments come in without ever emphasising their presence over the melody. (It's just that I don't like the "New Age Pad" much for that melody, too much echo (although the brightness and attack/decay seems about appropriate).

Alfonso de Sabio
February 14th, 2006, 03:37 pm
Trying to show up my lullaby with some orchestration? Just kidding.

The instruments mixed very well. This is one of the few times when I approve of the synth drums.

Marlon
February 14th, 2006, 11:31 pm
Thanks, people! :D

deathraider
February 16th, 2006, 11:48 pm
I didn't care for the ending, but the rest was not bad.

One_Winged
February 17th, 2006, 12:22 am
when will we be hearing some more music from you Marlon?

Milchh
February 17th, 2006, 01:18 pm
when will we be hearing some more music from you Marlon?

Marlon
February 18th, 2006, 03:15 am
when will we be hearing some more music from you Marlon?

I have no idea. XD It's just kinda random for me.

Marlon
February 20th, 2006, 05:42 pm
O.K. I came up with a sort of techno-ish tune. :shifty:

One_Winged
February 26th, 2006, 04:58 pm
this is a nice song indeed.
what you could do is make it longer, at the end of the song thats a perfect spot for a break from the original chord progression

Shizeet
February 28th, 2006, 03:40 am
I liked what you did with the kicks in the beginning, but was kinda disappointed when everything else came in and kinda ruined the mood - I wish you would do more with that part, because you can't really hear it very clearly with all those other instruments plaything together. The choice of instrumentation doesn't feel really techo-ish, though you sort of have a house beat down with the percussion. It's really hard to do techno in MIDI because what makes it really interesting is not the melody or harmony or even rhythm, but the effects (ie, timbre). You can actually do a lot of neat things with MIDI using RPN's and NRPN's, but they are kinda tricky to use (I've never actually bothered with them yet). And be careful with that fade-out; it's a good idea to reset your controllers (ie, make expression 127 again at the end), because some MIDI players/synths won't do it automatically, and if you try to listen to the tune again, those chords won't play at all until it gets to the part where you start fading it out again.

deathraider
February 28th, 2006, 09:34 pm
I agree with Shizeet about the beginning. I think perhaps maybe if you eased each instrument in seperately, it wouldn't ruin the mood as much.

Marlon
March 2nd, 2006, 12:57 am
I'll try to fix that, I suppose. Thanks, anyways. ^_^

EDIT: Is this any better? :sweat:

deathraider
March 2nd, 2006, 05:30 am
Yes! That's a ton better! I really like that!

Marlon
March 11th, 2006, 01:30 am
Ummm... Just some creation. It was originally a punk rock song... XD Dunno how it was changed so much.

deathraider
March 11th, 2006, 01:51 am
I wanted more complex harmonies and such, truthfully, the harmonies were really lacking. It got a better after the piano came in, though. I think it would be cooler if you came up with some more interest in the percussion and the beat, too, because that got a little boring.

Marlon
March 12th, 2006, 05:16 pm
Thanks for the comment. :heh:

Here's a little song there...

One_Winged
March 12th, 2006, 10:50 pm
woa! you´ve been real creative lately...

remnants of simplicity was an extraordinary song! I liked that one alot^_^
cant think of anything to complain about at the moment so I´ll just leave it at that. progress!

Marlon
March 18th, 2006, 03:29 pm
EDIT: Ignore this post... :sweat:

Btw, thanks, One_Winged! :lol:

Shizeet
March 19th, 2006, 10:27 pm
Good stuff - it's nice to see that you're building a foundation with simplicity. I think this is probably one of your more consisitent pieces (outside of a few passing dissonances in the melody, everything flowed pretty well), though the second chord of the harp progression kinda reminded me of the FF prelude :P. Oh, and watch the decrescendo at the end - try to offset the piece a measure (adding a note with a 0 velocity, for example), and then reset the expression for the strings and flute back to 127, because not all players/synths will reset themselves. That results in the next time you play the piece, you won't be able to hear the flute and strings until that descrescendo near the end, because it'll be defined as 0 until then.

Marlon
March 26th, 2006, 05:33 pm
A rock song. I'd just need vocals, I guess... :heh:

Sepharite
March 27th, 2006, 01:10 am
Beautiful! I love it... you just inspired me to make some cliche rock music.

Btw, only 13? Wow. =)

One_Winged
March 27th, 2006, 01:42 am
thats a nice one. original chords and all...

Milchh
March 27th, 2006, 08:25 pm
It might just be me not liking a lot of rock music, but SOME of the chords got 'annoying' and quite 'repeditive' a lot.

Overall, OK job Mar.

Marlon
April 13th, 2006, 05:06 pm
Ummm... Thanks!

Here's a BG music for an RPG or something of the sort. :sweat:

Sepharite
April 13th, 2006, 10:04 pm
When the piece started and I heard the guitar, I said to myself.. I swear to god, if a flute comes in I will be very unhappy. Too trite, my friend.

Well, the piece itself is quite good. Very relaxing. I like it!

tasmanian_dy
April 13th, 2006, 10:57 pm
Its been a while, reminds me of time warp especially the beginning. Gr8 job. 8.5/10

Eddy
April 14th, 2006, 01:00 am
When the piece started and I heard the guitar, I said to myself.. I swear to god, if a flute comes in I will be very unhappy. Too trite, my friend.

Yeah, my thoughts exactly. It does seem quite trite to me as well, not to mention repetitive. That guitar ostinato gets rather old, quickly. Sorry if that comes off as harsh, but sometimes you've got to be offensive. Every improvement I've made came from people telling me things I would rather not have heard.

Noir7
April 17th, 2006, 12:51 am
I second that - besides, doesn't the flute go way to low?

Alfonso de Sabio
April 17th, 2006, 01:55 am
It could be an alto flute or something, like what Stravinsky uses in the opening of the Rite of Spring. Not a very common instrument, but whatever.

I felt that the piece was too long and too short. It repeated itself without going anywhere.

Marlon
April 19th, 2006, 11:44 pm
It repeated itself without going anywhere.

Isn't that what an RPG BG Music is supposed to do? XD

Milchh
April 20th, 2006, 05:57 pm
No. It isn't.

Anyway, this composition obviously was an impromptu.. I hope.. please tell me ti was. It didn't seem like you put much anything into it. Heh. Sorry, but that melody is another one on this forum where it needs Music Theory Basics. LoL! Find a melody that fits in with the chords either left behind (in reverb, or in ear) or ones coming very soon up (which the ear and brain are think will come next). You have to think ahead in your compositions, not lag behind like in this one.

One_Winged
April 22nd, 2006, 10:53 pm
you could change the chords after the melody fades at 01:05 just to keep it fresh...

Marlon
June 29th, 2006, 12:33 am
Ummm... Apparently, I wasn't allowed to create a second thread like Maestro and stuff, so yeah... I guess I'll have to keep this thread. :hey:

Anyways, I still want to think of this post as a fresh start. The following was the post in the closed thread:


LoL. So... I figured I'd have troubles finding my old thread anyways, so I was like: Why not start fresh? Anywho, I haven't posted up a composition on here for a while.

(Well, I've made a lot, I just got a little discouraged to post them up after the last comments I got :heh: )

For those who don't know me, I've been playing piano for about... a year and half now? Wow. Time flies. And I also have been playing guitar for like 7 or 8 months. And I've been composing for like... a little under year I think. :think:

I'm not an expert and I hardly understand music theory and stuff (I usually nod my head and pretend to understand the confusing terms with them numbers that make no sense to me). I'm just an amateur, and I'm just here to try to make some music and share it with you guys - and hopefully have people enjoy it. :sweat:

EDIT: @Maestro: In your last post, you told me BG Music isn't supposed to just repeat and get nowhere, but I think the idea of constructive criticism is to tell it isn't and explain to me what it is supposed to do. Don't get me wrong, I agree it's not supposed to, because obviously I made all of your ears bleed, but please: what is it supposed to do? :heh: If I don't know, I'm not going to get any better.

evafreek576
June 29th, 2006, 12:42 am
my comments from the other thread are the same.:yes:

Marlon
July 5th, 2006, 06:44 pm
This is just some idea I had. The beginning's supposed to sound a bit like a train taking off. Haha... :heh: Hope you guys like it.

deathraider
July 6th, 2006, 01:51 am
Hmmm, there's very little harmony in this song. I kind of like it still, but I think you should add some harmony. I definitely think a vocal part is in order as well, if you didn't already plan that.

Milchh
July 6th, 2006, 03:02 am
Hey, that's neat there Marl. :lol:

Marlon
July 24th, 2006, 02:59 am
Thanks, guys! :)

Ummm... These are just some ideas. :heh: Please comment.

P.S. I already know that somewhere by the end of Diamond Fracture, there's a part that sounds off-beat. It just recorded itself off my soundcard that way. Sorry! :sweat:

KaitouKudou
July 24th, 2006, 07:44 pm
hey marlon, I just dled guitar pro and I don't get how to add percussion to my music. I thought all I had to do was press enter but guess that's not how it works haha:sweat:

Marlon
July 24th, 2006, 10:29 pm
hey marlon, I just dled guitar pro and I don't get how to add percussion to my music. I thought all I had to do was press enter but guess that's not how it works haha:sweat:

LoL. Actually, you use numbers (on any string) for each... ummm... thinger (i.e. bass drum, closed hi-hat, etc.). :heh: Here's the ones I use most:

36 = Bass Drum
38 = Acoustic Snare
40 = Electric Snare
41 = Floor Tom
43 = Low Tom
45 = Med Tom
47 = High Tom
49 = Crash Cymbal 1
57 = Crash Cymbal 2
42 = Closed Hi-hat
44 = Pedal Hi-hat
46 = Open Hi-hat
51 = Ride Cymbal
53 = Ride Bell

P.S. To see the whole index of the percussion, create a percussion track, and click on the picture of some drums by the top-right corner. ;)

KaitouKudou
July 25th, 2006, 02:20 am
haha, I can see that it's gonna take me some time to get use to this program...especially since I've never played a guitar in my life.

Milchh
July 25th, 2006, 06:39 am
Great, great songs [drafts] you have there Marlon.

I like that rock one, and the slower one sounds like it could be a reprise from something, doesn't it?

firebird7o4
July 25th, 2006, 04:06 pm
I liked that rock one ^-^ I found myself tapping my foot along with it ^.~ You have a good sense of creating interesting chord progressions, well, to me anyways ^-^

KaitouKudou
July 25th, 2006, 08:22 pm
hey, sorry to bother you again but, I can't figure out how to save what I made on guitar pro as an mp3 file. I tried the "export" as a .wav then change to mp3 from there but my .wav file have no sound even after I record it.

deathraider
July 27th, 2006, 05:07 am
You need to put some vocals in now! I love your soundfonts! I wish I had them. I've always wanted to try to compose a rock song...

Marlon
September 4th, 2006, 09:02 pm
*bump*

Thanks for the comments! ^_^

Anyways, this isn't the type of music I typically make, but oh well. :heh: It's like a little Prelude thinger. Hope ya like it!

P.S. Me and a friend are recording a rock song right now. So far, we've got all the guitars recorded, and since we don't have any good drummer/bassist friends, all we need is the vocals! I'll see if I can post it up when it's done.

:lol:

Sir_Dotdotdot
September 4th, 2006, 09:21 pm
The piano is a tad bit too repetitive, and the strings are too bland and 'chordy' for my taste, and there aren't much of a melody except for your chords. It's a little too dull, but I guess you aren't all into this style, and maybe that's why... ;)

Marlon
September 4th, 2006, 09:45 pm
The piano is a tad bit too repetitive, and the strings are too bland and 'chordy' for my taste, and there aren't much of a melody except for your chords. It's a little too dull, but I guess you aren't all into this style, and maybe that's why... ;)

LoL. Yeah, it's not my style, but I try to be as flexible as possible. I like to have an open mind with music and try new things. And although they sometimes don't work out, at least I get critiques so I get better at it. :heh:

Milchh
September 5th, 2006, 12:11 am
I agree, this isn't your found style Marlon.

Nonetheless, it sounds more like an interlude-good job anyway; it's more of an accectable OK job.

Also, good luck with the song your recording.

Noir7
September 5th, 2006, 08:27 am
I like that you want to try and broaden your horizon, and as Mazeppa (isn't there an opera named Mazeppa or something?) said it's an acceptable try.

Milchh
September 6th, 2006, 02:11 am
Yea, Tchaikovsky wrote one, but mainly my name meaning is based off the etude by Liszt's interpretation of the legend, "The Punishment of Mazeppa".

OFFTOPIC SORRY PEOPLES.

Jen318tkd
September 7th, 2006, 04:39 am
Hello Marlon :)
You have some pretty cool music here! I especially like "Tropical Theme", interesting instrumentation. Keep composing and working hard at it, you are doing great! I am a beginner myself :)

Shizeet, I like your sig!! :D I am a moderator on youngcomposers.com

Marlon
October 2nd, 2006, 03:36 pm
Thanks for the comments! ^_^

O.K. So I'm finally done recording that rock song. :) I know the recording quality's not the best, and I'm also aware that at the end, the vocals get a little blary, but I did what I could! :heh: Anywho... Most of the guitar is played by my friend Jonny, some guitar by me, and the vocals were done by me (I'm sorry if the singing sucks butt x_x ).

Well, here goes nothing! I present to you: Farewell to the Season (http://media.putfile.com/Farewell-to-the-Season)

I hope you enjoy! ^.^

Noir7
October 2nd, 2006, 04:08 pm
It's a pretty good rock song. Overall it held some good ideas! Just a few things:

Your semi-acoustic guitar player doesn't really know what he's doing it sounds like. There's just too many mistakes for me to ignore here, and it kind of sinks the song as a whole. Practise fingering control!

The singing harmonies in about 00:51 were well written, but the singer did a very mediocre work at it I think. There clearly is not enough power in the voice(s). The singing in the distortion sections were even worse I'm afraid. I felt that the singer was also out of tune several times throughout the song.

One_Winged
October 3rd, 2006, 09:43 pm
there is a lot of energy in this song! quality sucks but hey we´ve all been down that road... the singer has a way of singing with his throat instead of his stomach, therefor the vocal parts sound a little wavery at times. there can be some charm in that to. =)

I agree with noir that the harmonies at 0.50 or so has great potential.

the rythm guitar has all the drive, just see to it that everything follows the same bpm. most of personal studio programs have "click" that helps you with that.

all in all, with some enginering this could be an interesting song.

ps:
the intro is nice as hell.

Wolfgoddess
October 6th, 2006, 12:18 am
Hey man that kool. I liked it. I was always interested in playing the guitar^-^ I just play the flute. But eh, im a rock star fan. I like any music that has a good beat. Urs has a good beat to it so i like it.

Sepharite
October 15th, 2006, 12:52 am
Woah, sorry I missed the song, Marlon.. but that ROCKED!

I agree with everyone above though... I like your vocals - sounds like a mix of Led Zeplin... and a crazy frog. =)

Marlon
December 2nd, 2006, 01:46 pm
Thanks for the comments! ^_^ Yeah, I realized the vocals were a little low - no one I showed it to could even remotely make out the lyrics. If I would've made it any louder, it woulda been blary, kinda like at the end - except worse. :heh: Also, yeah... I realized I was off-tune sometimes, or I'd struggle with the high notes - a product of the vocals being all an improvisation. We've learned a lot since then about recording, so hopefully my next one won't be as crap-tacular. (Actually, we recorded the clean guitar through the amp, and then we did the distortion parts with a whole mess of gain; we really didn't know anything about recording. XD ) Well yeah, thanks for the comments anyways, and we might re-record it once I get a better mic.

Anyways, I've been working on some stuff, mainly rock songs, so they all need vocals. But... I'm lazy, so I haven't recorded the vocals on any. XD Well, here's something else I've made; it's a battle theme. Enjoy! :heh:

Milchh
December 2nd, 2006, 02:56 pm
(Farewell to the Season) Whoa you sound just like the singer from Led Zepplin--it's creepy. I wish I could hear the lyrics, the levels were kinda of out of wack; the guitar overpowered the singing and couldn't understand you. Lol.

I liked it, just the quality was a bit poopey.

KaitouKudou
December 3rd, 2006, 07:13 pm
Since it's battle theme, I think you should make a good loop section that goes back. This sound so classic RPG lol. I admire your drum lines. See, I can't come up with good drum rhythms :heh:.

One_Winged
December 3rd, 2006, 08:44 pm
Woa!!! Thats crazy good.

I Like how you stick to those chords throughout the song but if you want this to be a battle tune you need some diversity... come to think of it this is quite diverse already. hope to hear some more soon
fantastic song!
im going to listen to this for an hour or so now...

edit: yeah it needs to loop smoothly

Noir7
December 9th, 2006, 03:08 pm
Some new modulations would give this tune fresh air. It's quite good and entertaining so far, just keep working on it (and give it an appropriate ending!)

Marlon
December 15th, 2007, 02:34 pm
Wow. It's been over a year since I've put up music. You can say I've evolved musically quite a bit. Right now I was looking back at all my old compositions, and I loved hearing all the changes, how I've been morphing as a musician.

Well, now in music, I'm a vocalist in an indie alternative band. From what I remember of the community here, maybe not everyone will like it, but I hope you guys do! :sweat:

Anyways, yeah, here's our page, we have a few songs up on there: The Falling Alarm (http://www.myspace.com/thefallingalarm).

And yes, my vocals have changed a lot, lol.

deathraider
December 15th, 2007, 10:42 pm
Hey, you sound pretty good! If you ever get famous I'll be able to say that I almost wrote a song with you :P

Noir7
December 15th, 2007, 10:58 pm
Marlon Marlon, long time no see. Come here and give me a hug you big bear you! And yes, your vocals have improved... greatly. I for one appreciate the genre in which you write your music, and from what I can gather your band is pretty good. The singing hits many sour notes on occasion, but holds up pretty well. The instruments all sound good, and the compositional value is undeniably decent.

Welcome back, always nice to see oldies returning to the composing offices of Ichigos. We know, we know, it's cold and damp, but at least it's dark and depressing.

Marlon
June 5th, 2008, 08:57 pm
Woah, another million years since I've been here.
Um, well, here's one of my recent songs.

I hope you guys enjoy it. :sweat:

Nyu001
June 6th, 2008, 01:21 pm
I think this song miss a strong bass, I feel a hole in the song like it should be filled. I hear a bass but is not very audible for me (Probably because I am listening with one speaker). The vocals are good in my opinion and same with the song. If the production quality was polish on this song it would sound much better. Nice to listen.

deathraider
June 6th, 2008, 05:44 pm
Pretty good, Marlon! This totally reminds me of some of my favorite AAF music.

peach_zelda_86
June 9th, 2008, 01:07 am
wow...awesome vocals. can i get the lyrics?

PorscheGTIII
June 17th, 2008, 09:59 pm
Nice dude! How did you produce this (like recording the vocals or if you used virtual instruments)?

Marlon
June 18th, 2008, 12:47 am
I recorded all the guitar and vocal parts with a Shure SM-57 microphone, and the drums are from an electronic drum machine, Reason.

Milchh
June 24th, 2008, 04:50 am
Hey Marlon--LONG TIME NO AUDIO. XD I've been busy that I haven't been allowed time to listen to compositions, and I have to say this is pretty nice. Nice guitar work--now you need to work on your Frank Zappa. =P

BlazingDragon
June 24th, 2008, 02:40 pm
Wow, your voice has really matured since you uploaded the your first song with vocals! :O
Nice guitar work, well written vocal harmonies, and good flow. There was just a couple notes on the vocal line that sounded a bit strained, but great overall. That high note at 2:33 was crazy! I liked :50 and the few measures that followed. :) There was a crescendo in the instrumental break before the high note. It made me smile. xD

I agree Nyu001 about the lack of bass. I can imagine some cool bass guitar riffs that would fit rather nicely.

Good job on this one! I've noticed a huge improvement since last time.


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