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aoiryuukishi13
July 19th, 2005, 03:54 am
Well, here is first and only composition. Hopefully, I'll compose more.
I'd like for it to be judged on a 10 point scale, with 10 being the best.
Thanks,
AoiRyuuKishi13
Noir7
July 19th, 2005, 09:30 am
Well, it's not entirely bad for a first composition. It's not as random as many others. However, I don't get why you used these certain articulatons? ">" These are mostly used on fast tuplets where one note is to be played louder than the rest.
aoiryuukishi13
July 19th, 2005, 11:37 am
I can just as easily take them out... Thanks Noir7
Noir7
July 19th, 2005, 12:20 pm
You don't need to take them out, I just wondered why you put them there. :rolleyes:
aoiryuukishi13
July 19th, 2005, 12:47 pm
Oh, well, I have to admit that I don't really have a strategic reason for putting them there besides those just being sylables that would sound better stressed to me... That is why I was so willing to take them out.
an-kun
July 19th, 2005, 01:43 pm
">" are called accents i think. There are other ways of stressing notes like " - " over or under depending where the head of the note is. There are many ways you can use ">" though so you didn't have to take them out because someone said so. I agree with noir7's comments about the randomness though at least you know that chords are involved which is a good start. With a little more experience you should be composing better. It's good to see that you are interested in the articulation of the notes. Happy composing ^_^
Noir7
July 19th, 2005, 02:29 pm
I can see this composition working if redone a little bit.. Since it's short (very short) it could work as an interlude, or a short prelude. Composing these short songs requires chord progression technique which will make it more interesting and.. flowing? Once you've done that, a melody can be carved out of these chords and put into better use than with random chords. Erm, I made some changes (you don't have to keep these, or even like them) so you can see what I mean. I shortened it a bit, changed some chords, and some of the melody line. I added a certain pattern to the song, so that it feels complete.
Please tell me if any of this makes any sense to you?
aoiryuukishi13
July 19th, 2005, 02:48 pm
hmm... ineteresting... it does sound good, although it is a little harder to play(i have no sound on my computer...). I do like this arrangement of it, though. But, I also like the original, due mostly in part to the ease of play. and about the length, it can really be as short or long as I want it to be, I just wrote the best sounding combinations on to a short sheet so I could get input from other composers on the general sound.
But, back on to the topic of your arrangement, I do like the chord progressions, although I have to admit that it does deviate from the original design to create an almost totally different one. That's not a bad thing, cause it is a step up, but I have grown attached to my old one. The arrangement sounds like a different song to me, especially after only the second measure. In fact, it could do great as another song. But, I still am open to any other arrangements or suggestions, so if you have any ideas, feel free to send them my way.
Oh, also, one last thing. I do believe that I have already composed another song... I'll have to write it in Finale... But it should be here by the end of the day.
an-kun
July 19th, 2005, 08:25 pm
Noir's one does sound less random and well structured but the chord progression is pretty much a usual one. I'd personally stick to your own one even if it's a bit random (i've got nothing against noir7's arrangement though apart from maybe the little trill) because of what you are trying to accomplish (new chord thing). However it is hard to make your own chord pattern up without making it too random and I think your one has a more complicated rhythm in it so I'd find yours probably harder to play. :S Noir's adjustment does show you how to make the piece flow more smoothly though so you should aim to do that whilst considering your rhythm.
Noir7
July 19th, 2005, 08:32 pm
Just to make things clear; I didn't want him to *use* mine, it was just a sample of structure really.
an-kun
July 19th, 2005, 08:41 pm
gotcha boss. :P yeah I should have known that XD sorry. Yeah that's a good idea.
aoiryuukishi13
July 19th, 2005, 10:33 pm
Well, I have to see about changing the chord structure... I'm not really sure if it's something I want to do... I have to find out what all the combinations might sound like.
Also, I think I'll fiddle around with the rythm a little more... Maybe I can find something a whole lot better through trial and error...
I'm gonna need help with the chords... I can't think of anything to do except change them all to the same thing, and then it sounds completely awkward. I can't tell which chords blend or not. Except for diminutive, minor and major chords, that is...
Noir7
July 20th, 2005, 12:52 pm
You should learn about modulation then. That gives you a great sense of chords. Again, I provided a .mus file for you ^^;
aoiryuukishi13
July 22nd, 2005, 01:57 am
hmm. I'm still a little bit confused about this principle...
Al
July 22nd, 2005, 02:07 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modulation_%28music%29 has some good stuff on modulation.
Edit: Ah, wrong link, sorry!
aoiryuukishi13
July 22nd, 2005, 02:17 am
okay, this clears up a lot of things. Thanks Al!
aoiryuukishi13
July 26th, 2005, 02:26 am
Well, i have transcribed my VERY first transcription!!! :)
It is pharoahman's theme from Mega Man 4
aoiryuukishi13
August 2nd, 2005, 03:31 am
Hmm... I want to compose another song... but I have no idea what theme I should use... or anything else for that matter... Could anyone help me with this?
Here's a general idea of something i just thought of...
Hmm, a dark piece... it should kind of "blow" like the wind, in an unpredictable fashion (not too unpredictable). ... I can't really think of much else... Maybe a good bass line...
any ideas would be greatly appreciated...
aoiryuukishi13
August 2nd, 2005, 03:33 pm
Okay
here's yet another one of my compos... This one was done very quickly, and, if you took out the repeating, it would be about 6 measures long...lol
but, I would like some opinions on this one
I am more than willing to make any necessary changes to make it sound better!
Noir7
August 2nd, 2005, 05:11 pm
Here's a general idea of something i just thought of...
Hmm, a dark piece... it should kind of "blow" like the wind, in an unpredictable fashion (not too unpredictable). ... I can't really think of much else... Maybe a good bass line...
Why don't you develop this idea instead?
aoiryuukishi13
August 2nd, 2005, 05:44 pm
hmm
well
i came up with quite a few ideas, but nothing within my level of skill. i.e. i can sing it in my head, but i can't play it... most of my compos are luck of the draw... I hit the right notes at the right time...
But, i will try to develop another idea... I just don't know how it will work out...
yellowmonkey121
August 7th, 2005, 01:20 am
yea.. coming up with a theme (for me) is the hardest thing to do (besides coming up with a title). so i don't usually force myself to come up with an idea, although i heard true composer should force to compose anyway. so what i do is read books or look at some pictures. i don't know if this will help but hey i tried.. heh heh. btw... dark and sorrow... it was a very short composition, but luckly i have ADD :heh: the melody wasn't that all bad it just that the left hand part kinda threw me off.
p.s. 6.5/10 i give you.
aoiryuukishi13
August 7th, 2005, 01:36 am
okay, thanks for the tips.
I am still developing all of my compositions. None of them are really finished. I have lots more work to do on some than others. So, I appreciate any help which is given.
aoiryuukishi13
August 13th, 2005, 06:02 am
okay,
here's another transcription of mine. This one is for futari no kimochi from inuyasha.
gedtag
August 13th, 2005, 07:10 am
Nice work! :D
LucyKemp
August 13th, 2005, 02:05 pm
Hiya noir, I really love that piece of music you wrote. Is there any way you can annotate the chords under each key for me, so I would be able to try to play it on my piano please? it looks really easy to play :) thanks!
Noir7
August 13th, 2005, 03:35 pm
Wha? You mean me?
Klonoa
August 13th, 2005, 03:54 pm
Somebodys confused Ithink or is it me @_@
LucyKemp
August 14th, 2005, 01:29 am
No you!! you did a remake of the original posters, I think.. ? Would you be able to annotate the chords so that I would be able to play them? It's a great melody :)) Thanks alot!!
Noir7
August 14th, 2005, 01:55 am
Yes, I was the one who made a remake of the original. (<.<)
Am Am Dm Am Dm Am Em Am
Al
August 14th, 2005, 04:07 am
@ LucyKemp: I don't think Aoiryuukishi13 would appreciate you discussing Noir7's music in his thread :heh:
LucyKemp
August 14th, 2005, 10:48 am
Oh sorry =-((
Klonoa
August 14th, 2005, 10:58 am
But Im sure hes happy everybody flocking to his thread :heh:
aoiryuukishi13
August 17th, 2005, 12:00 am
lol klonoa...
we should stay on topic though...
Just wanna update status:
I'm currently working on:
Wheel Gator's theme from MMX2
Blizzard Buffalo's theme from MMX3
Yamatoman's theme from MM6
Plan to be working on:
more Mega man themes... and maybe some original compos
I'll probably be doing other songs as well...
If anyone has any suggestions as to songs that they would like to have transcribed, or need help composing, I'll be glad to see if there's anything I can do.
*transcription requests should still be made via the request thread, or a pm to me is fine, but I need an MP3 of the file. I can't listen to anything else (no sound on pc...). Thank goodness for psp...
EDIT: Alright!!! I got sound on my pc! I can now hear any sound files on my pc.
EDIT2: I have recently heard my very first composition, and I don't like it. It isn't what I intended in the first place, and since i couldn't hear it, I didn't know what it sounded like. So, I am REALLY oopen to any suggestions on that piece, and I am going to remake that compo myself so that it sounds more like I had intended.
aoiryuukishi13
September 10th, 2005, 05:24 pm
I got a few new compositions that I have created:
The untitled piece was one that I made, and I just couldn't think of a name, so I didn't give it one. It is also my first piece in 6/8 time.
After the Storm was a song I composed and perfected the day after Katrina hit. It was an interesting little tune at first, then i tweaked it till it sounded like it does now.
deathraider
September 10th, 2005, 06:05 pm
I didn't really like the flute in "Untitled," but I liked the accompaniment. I think you should come up with a way stronger, longer, and more flowing melody that is a little less repetative.
aoiryuukishi13
October 29th, 2005, 07:14 pm
Okay, progress report:
I've composed several new compos, but they are still in the works. However, all of them will be put on hold until:
1. I find out about Spanish guitar riffs and successfully make an original composition.
2. No new data about the above subject is found for exactly 1 entire, uninterrupted, month. Meaning, if a lead pops up, it restarts the timer.
If you have any information on the matter of Spanish guitar riffs, please feel free to pm me about it.
Thanks,
AoiRyuuKishi13
Egmont
October 30th, 2005, 01:09 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flamenco_music
Here's a type of Spanish guitar music. If this site isn't helpful, I'm sure you can do some research on "Flamenco" guitar-styles and find a bunch of info.
aoiryuukishi13
October 30th, 2005, 01:27 am
This might just be the style I'm looking for...
Thanks, Pyramus.
aoiryuukishi13
March 17th, 2006, 03:14 am
New COMPO!!!
This Composition was just something I thought of kinda spur of the moment, so I don't think it's great or anything, and the ending really sucks. But, I think I like this piece enough to see what you guys think about it. It's called "Distress" cause that's the general feeling I got off the piece, and it was the feeling I tried to convey. Hopw you like it. Reviews are welcome.
Sepharite
March 17th, 2006, 03:43 am
Well, you did use the same two chords over and over and over again... but still, I thought it brang out that "distress" feeling which is good.
You should try to vary it rather than copy/paste... avoid Copy/Paste at all times.
Other than that, not bad.
aoiryuukishi13
March 18th, 2006, 05:51 am
Thanks for the tips and the compliments. I'll keep them in mind as I continue to write more music.
aoiryuukishi13
March 23rd, 2006, 02:45 am
Alrighty then!
Here's my newest compo!
This one is set in the style of a freestyle foxtrot (I think...). I used a pattern that I found that I liked, added some stuff to it and Voila! this new compo. I have to admit though, I really wasn't considering theory or anything, so some of the notes may seem "out of place".
Well, here it is:
Sepharite
March 24th, 2006, 01:26 am
Yes, a lot of notes are out of place which ultimately loses it's momentum towards the last note. The bass line is definately repetitive and you should vary bass chords or at least within that same chord. It's okay... needs a lot of work though.
aoiryuukishi13
March 24th, 2006, 10:03 pm
Yeah... It was once again something I just threw together... I agree that it needs some definite work. I'll see if I have enough time to edit this piece, and the one before it... Thanks for the comments.
aoiryuukishi13
April 1st, 2006, 04:31 am
Alrighty then
Here's my newest (untitled) composition. I'm not really sure how to describe it in terms of its sound... You'd have to listen to it to find out. But, in terms of difficiculty, it's actually fairly difficult, especially in those areas of contrasting rythms between the 16ths and 8ths. At least for me, anyways... (is a novice piano player...) I think it's pretty good at helping you learn to count, and to play steadily. The actual sound is pretty cool, though if I had to guess what the first negative comment is going to be, it's probably going to have something to do with the fact that the left hand is hammering down 16ths throughout the entire song. But, I seriously think it sounds pretty good. As always, I welcome any comments, hints, suggestions, or criticisms.
Thanks,
AoiRyuuKishi13
Sepharite
April 1st, 2006, 04:57 am
Actually, the left hand is okay. It does give that solid effect.
But the melody sometimes seems random. Some chord progressions are odd, I think. Other than that, not bad...
aoiryuukishi13
April 1st, 2006, 05:35 am
lol. If it's not one thing, it's the other... Composing is truly difficult...
That actually was a planned melody. I did take careful consideration of the melody and made sure that it wasn't out of place.
I have to say that I'm not really sure what constitutes random. I might not have ever heard a song that was not random I guess. But then again, we all agree(except me) that JS Bach is one of the greatest composers of all time. But, just take a look at his 6th motet.
R
A
N
D
O
M.
There
Is
No
Pattern
I don't see any pattern. Repeated stuff here and there, skips here and there, but no patterns. How is Bach so great if his work is... random? That question perplexes me. Did it really take that much thought to throw dots around on a page? I guess so.
Anyways... I'm not angry, in case you were wondering... Just a little confused as to what the definition of random is. Random to me is "no pattern". In all of my compositions there is always a definite pattern somewhere. Be it in the left hand or the right hand. So then, if it isn't pattern, then what is it?
I've also heard that it's sticking to the chord that you use. I've done that as of late too. But apparently, I'm still not taking care of the randomness. And, If I don't know the definition of random, then I can't fix it. So, I would like to know what the definition of random is in musical terms, as a tool to aid my composition skills.
I'm also very sorry if I seem at all angry. I'm not. A little frustrated, but definitely not angry, and not at you Sepharite. Most of it leans towards me. There are also other things are on my mind right now.
Thanks for the comment,
AoiRyuuKishi13
Sepharite
April 1st, 2006, 05:44 am
Lol. There is no absolute definition of anything... it's just how I perceive it. Others may have a different opinion - and you can't satisfy everyone. But I just thought, the harmony combined with the melody didn't assemble together nicely -- sounding odd in certain sections. I'll point out the bars later (I'll edit/post). The rhythm is fine, if that's what you're wondering.
Yes, the internet is serious business... please don't hurt me.
PS. Whatever is bothering you, I wish you the best of luck. Why not ask for suggestions in the other forum.
One_Winged
April 1st, 2006, 09:14 am
I would really like to hear you stuff but since they are MUS-files I canŽt, you could ask someone to convert them to midi...
Sepharite
April 1st, 2006, 02:24 pm
I hope you don't mind...
And is it okay if I fooled around with it?
Marlon
April 1st, 2006, 03:07 pm
The left hand B-O-R-E-S me. =_= At least the right hand is "O.K."
aoiryuukishi13
April 3rd, 2006, 02:50 am
To Sepharite:
No I don't mind at all. See if you can work with it to make it a little better.
To One Winged:
Sure, I can convert them, just tell me what you want to hear. Also, taking into consideration your problem, from now on I'll post the MIDI as well for every new composition.
Milchh
April 3rd, 2006, 11:41 am
It's preety good.
SaNtA
April 4th, 2006, 08:22 am
hey dude... i just spent the last half hour downloading ur music...
and i have to say..
itz gotten a LOT
better
seriously
A LOT better...
go back to your first composition, and to your most recent one. :D
see the difference?
=]
keep at it!
Sepharite
April 5th, 2006, 09:03 pm
Just fooling around with the rhythms. Didn't change anything, just added a few notes here and there. Maybe this'll give you some ideas.
gedtag
April 8th, 2006, 07:02 am
Am I the only one that sees the potential in this song? There's so many things you can do to it. Here's something that I added, but first I want to know if I'm heading in the right direction with your song.
aoiryuukishi13
April 10th, 2006, 12:23 am
Nice work Sepharite and gedtag. Those are both interesting arrangements. Both of them seem to have the intended characteristics of the original composition. Great job.
SaNtA:
Thanks for the complement.
Yeah, I did notice a definite change. I think it sounds better too. lol. I'm actually taking more time to think out the compositions before I write them down. Plus, I've become able to count rythms better than I used to.
aoiryuukishi13
July 11th, 2006, 06:29 am
Alrighty then.
High everyone....
I know I haven't posted in a while. Been busy, and my Computer monitor went out...
Biggest news: I'm working on a big piece, in which I will meticulously scrutinize every note (unlike 99.9% of my previous compositions...).
It will (hopefully) consist of 13 different parts. It's theme will be the coming of the end of the world, and the subsequent hardships mankind must face.
I can already hear some of the melodies I will use in my head, but I have to put them down on paper. It's a very tedious job. I'm not sure I'll be finished with the complete work for a while... It may even take a year or two. But, once it's finished, I think it will definitely have been worth it...
I also plan to fully orchestrate this work, which will take even more time...
I will continue to compose smaller works in the meantime, but I will definitely try to focus on the big picture. Having said that, I probably won't have as many new pieces to present to you guys (and girls).
Also, I will post each of the 13 parts as I finish them.
It should be noted that I have started to work on the 2nd part, as opposed to the 1st. The reason for this was because I already had an idea for both parts, but, I only thought of music for the second. The parts are also NOT interchangeable.
This piece, if executed correctly, should be able to tell a very compelling musical story... (aka it should influence the mood of the listener into being able to understand what's going on without needing to understand lyrics.)
I realize, however, that stated above is the goal of most composers, and though many attempt, many more fail. I 'll have to work some more to see which of the two categories I fit into...
Anyways, thanks for listening (or reading...lol) my rantings. I hope to provide more compositions in the future of (hopefully) increasing quality.
Until the next post,
Aoiryuukishi13
KaitouKudou
July 16th, 2006, 11:18 pm
It sounded good at the start but the longer the song continued, the more I wished for a break somewhere to settle my nerves. That's probably why marlon said the left hand "bores" him.
My moods: :unsure:--> :lol:--> :huh:--> @_@
aoiryuukishi13
July 30th, 2006, 07:50 am
Hi everyone.
Well, as promised, here is a small piece that I hvae composed. I called it a waltz, yet, i don't know if it falls into that category because of it's time sig... oh well.
The ending was kinda just added, so it's not that great either.
Anyways, here it is in glorious .pdf, .mus, and .midi.
Hope you guys enjoy it. Tell me what you think.
What's Her Face
July 30th, 2006, 02:02 pm
I like the chord progression very much, just work a little more variation of notes/rythms played in the left hand - keeping same chord progression of course :) Nice work *thumbs up*
Sepharite
July 30th, 2006, 02:41 pm
The chord progressions are fine, slightly cliche in some parts but not a problem. The melody is a bit too simple for my taste... so it sounds very dull and boring. Try to variate the melody a little with some interesting rhythms.
Listen to Chopin's Waltz. Those are brilliant. <3
Marlon
July 30th, 2006, 04:04 pm
I don't know... :unsure: This song kinda bored me. And like Sepharite said, the melody was a bit too simple. Or maybe just not powerful enough. It was good, just not catchy. :think:
Sir_Dotdotdot
July 30th, 2006, 11:25 pm
Indeed, the time signature is wrong, a waltz should be in 3/4 or 3/8. :think: And as the people above mentioned, it's too dull. Variate both the accompaniment and the melody.
aoiryuukishi13
December 15th, 2006, 01:54 am
Hi Everyone,
I know it's been a (long) while, but I've finally composed another piece.
A lot of stuff has been going on lately, so I really haven't had the time. But, on a lighter note, I have been taking a music theory and Composition class, and I kinda wanted to see if the change could be noted...
Anyways, about this piece, it's (as the name implies) a string trio for violin, viola, and cello. It's in A minor, and it's extremely short (17 measures, I think) but I think it'll do for now. I tried to encompass as much theory as I could, so I hope it sounds better than my other compositions.
That's about it... I'll do some more composing once I get further on in my course (if I have the time). Until then, Aoiryuukishi13, out.
PS
After taking music theory for 1 semester, I now see why the most common comment about my older compositions was that they were random. They didn't use any particular chord progression, and (to be honest) most of the time the melodies were ... well ... Random. So, I now officially apologize to anyone that I may have offended, I'm really sorry about my reaction.... Thinking back on it now, I feel really stupid... But, on the bright side, that shouldn't happen again, since I'll have a firm grasp on music theory by the end of this school year.
PPS
I also thought that you should know that I feel that you all are some of my best critics. You always point out what needs to be worked on, so that I may improve it. So, I'd like to thank all of you who post your comments (good or bad), because you help me to grow.
Sir_Dotdotdot
December 15th, 2006, 02:06 am
It lacks musicality, melody, and flow, even if you have all the right chords. :mellow: That's all I can say.
One_Winged
December 15th, 2006, 12:07 pm
It lacks musicality, melody, and flow, even if you have all the right chords. :mellow: That's all I can say.
^ thats a bit harsh..
I think the trio had flow but it was still kind of... well, boring.I have made a string trio myself (not claiming its great) listen to it, and maybe youŽll get some ideas to further your own composition.
btw: one year of composition study isnt that much but (maybe) you will have a basis to build some self-study on.
Sir_Dotdotdot
December 15th, 2006, 10:27 pm
Well, to clear myself up a little, the comment wasn't suppose to be harsh, so don't bite me. :P When I say it lacks musicality, it doesn't mean you (the composer) is not musical, I'm just saying the piece is not interesting for the ears.
aoiryuukishi13
December 19th, 2006, 04:30 am
Well, looks like I still need a little bit of work, lol. But, that's okay, I'll keep trying harder till I can get it right. After all, that's generally how success works, anyways. Thanks for the comments.
A few more things though.
1
What good things do my compositions have?(Not a sarcastic/angry question)
Are there any things that stand out that I might be able to improve upon to further my skill and style as a composer?
Are there any things that might work if expanded/changed a little?
Do you prefer my minor or major key compositions?
Any responses would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
2
Here's a (somewhat) new composition, which I composed before my Trio, but never attached to this site. I know that it lacks rythmic variety, but is there anything else that can be improved?
It's one of my few major key compositions, so I tried to write it in a slightly different style than my minor key compositions.
It's also another one of my short pieces... lol...
I got my inspiration for this piece from the Legend of Zelda series, though I know it pales in comparison to any of those pieces(lol).
...
Speaking of inspiration, the Trio was inspired by Samuel Barber's Adagio for Strings Op. 11(?). lol. Perhaps I should have written mine in the Phrygean Mode too, lol. Well, anyways, it was a thought.
Thanks to all you who take time to listen to my (boring:heh: (JK) ) compos. I really appreciate it.
aoiryuukishi13
August 3rd, 2009, 04:20 am
I just wanted to post an update here.
Firstly, I think it's quite comical just how excited I was about my compositions, especially since they were pretty random. I remember actually writing them totally randomly.
Secondly, I haven't really composed a whole lot in the interim between my last posting and today. I have two pieces that are in prototype stage. One is a lied based on a german romantic poem and the other is a quartet. Neither is in good enough shape to merit being posted and I don't currently have a way to edit them, since I'm on a new computer. That might change.
Thirdly, I would like to thank all of those people who supported me in my compositional folly when I was younger. I feel like I was such a nuisance.
Finally, I would like to announce that as of this posting I'm starting afresh and I will not be reposting my earlier works onto this site. I think it is not conducive to my growth and, quite honestly, I find those earlier works to be tactless embarrassments. In fact, I'm not even really sure if I'm likely to post any other works. It's all up to how busy I am as I begin college and how well I can master the essentials of musical expression.
EDIT: "compos" = eeewww! I can't believe I said that...
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