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hoplite
August 15th, 2005, 04:10 am
does anyone know what that squiggly line right beside a chord in piano, uh the one where you have to roll the chord right beside it (kinda like a gliss. but with specific notes)

...everyone knows what it does but no one knows what it's called :heh:...

i'll try to get a picture of it if no one knows what i'm talking about

gedtag
August 15th, 2005, 04:57 am
I'm dying to know what it's called too! You mean it's when you play all the notes of a chord one right after another really fast? Guitar players do it too, not just piano :glare:

Is this (http://home.comcast.net/~gedlar/FF7_Overworld_Theme_Klutz_Greg_Pak_Ver_-_Piano.pdf)what you're talking about?

Kalile Alako
August 15th, 2005, 05:01 am
I always thought it was just called... broken chords... or something... but I suppose the actual line has a name too... :unsure:

gedtag
August 15th, 2005, 05:02 am
I always thought it was just called... broken chords... or something... but I suppose the actual line has a name too... :unsure:

Broken chords? I don't think so.

Klonoa
August 15th, 2005, 05:34 am
Isnt it just called a roll :mellow:

gedtag
August 15th, 2005, 05:38 am
Isnt it just called a roll :mellow:

Are you sure?

Klonoa
August 15th, 2005, 05:40 am
Not really. :unsure: I thought I heard it called that somewhere??
Does anyone know?
EDIT-Yes It's a rolled chord

gedtag
August 15th, 2005, 05:48 am
Not really. :unsure: I thought I heard it called that somewhere??
Does anyone know?
EDIT-Yes It's a rolled chord

So, the squiggely line is called a rolled chord? That doesn't sound right to me.

Klonoa
August 15th, 2005, 05:52 am
Well in the finale manual it talks about trills and rolls and says that rolled chords are squiggely vertical lines next to the chords.

Noir7
August 15th, 2005, 06:27 am
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's called a rolled chord. I bet it has some italian name too, but I haven't heard of it.

Klonoa
August 15th, 2005, 06:31 am
um is it rotolato.. :heh: I dont know

Stefan
August 15th, 2005, 11:04 am
Arpeggio?

=.=

Edit: Oh, rolled chord. :P

Klonoa
August 15th, 2005, 11:20 am
Oh thats what its called arpeggio? or no :)

aznanimedude
August 15th, 2005, 01:03 pm
whatever, why does the name matter, all you have to know is what you're supposedto do with the symbol

Noir7
August 15th, 2005, 01:05 pm
Oh thats what its called arpeggio? or no :)

No, an arpeggio is a broken chord and it's notated in separate notes.

bic
August 15th, 2005, 04:47 pm
No, an arpeggio is a broken chord and it's notated in separate notes.Um, unless Beethoven was wrong, "arpeggio" is indeed a correct term for this. (Though "arpeggio" can also refer to a series of notes in a chord not played in quick succession...) In the measure just before the 3rd movement of the Appassionata sonata (Op. 57) -- some editions anyway -- the left hand chord is explicitly marked "arpeggio", while the right hand chord is marked "secco" ("dry", i.e. not broken).

xpeed
August 15th, 2005, 11:23 pm
Arpeggio' s broken chord. Basically, you press all three notes in a fast pattern. Like 1,2,3. Except you do it like a domino effect.

But for your question, I have no clue. :hey:

hoplite
August 16th, 2005, 02:16 pm
...the power of the squiggly line...

aznanimedude - because we want to know what it's called...it's funner that way

an-kun
August 17th, 2005, 04:07 pm
There is a technical name for it, but I can't quite remember it at the moment. Not quite an arpeggio. You just play the notes from the bottom note to the top note as fast as you can as separate notes which involves flicking the wrist fast.

I just want to point out that the broken chord scales and the arpeggio scales are different from each other.

Asuka
August 17th, 2005, 04:16 pm
I like squiggly lines. o.o

Thorn
August 17th, 2005, 06:06 pm
sorry if i misunderstand what you are describing, but are you referring to tremolandi?

Noir7
August 17th, 2005, 06:10 pm
You mean Tremolando? That's more like a trill..

Thorn
August 17th, 2005, 06:34 pm
i know what they are; i just didnt know if thats what you were referring to

gedtag
August 17th, 2005, 06:39 pm
um look at post #2; i believe that is what we're talking about

Hiei
August 17th, 2005, 08:23 pm
I believe arpeggiando is a rolled chord.

Noir7
August 17th, 2005, 08:27 pm
Perhaps, it's not an arpeggio anyways.

hoplite
August 18th, 2005, 02:22 am
here's a site...not sure if it's correct though http://www.sheetmusicdigital.com/musicdictionaryletterA.asp

alt+f arpeggio

arpeggiando = from the site's i've been going to this is supposed to be for a harp, not sure if it's used for piano

Hiei
August 18th, 2005, 03:40 am
Okay, from external sources I found out that Arpeggio can be used for both Broken Chords and Rolled Chords. However you can establish which one is which by the way the notes are displayed.

charchar123
August 18th, 2005, 07:31 am
I think its called a tremolo, since you do hold the notes as a chord for the given beat, and not let it go right when you play it

an-kun
August 18th, 2005, 07:39 am
yeah that sounds better than what i said.

Kalile Alako
August 18th, 2005, 05:20 pm
I still stick with the broken chord; it's the same thing as a rolled chord, I think, and that's what I always learned it as.

I've never heard of tremolo for piano... how is that accomplished? In violin, you have to play notes extremely extremely fast, just sort of vibrating the bow on the string as quickly as you can. How does that work on piano? Is it something completely different? :unsure:

an-kun
August 18th, 2005, 05:46 pm
I know how to play it, just don't know what it's called. Don't know how to tremelo on the piano though.

Liquid Feet
August 21st, 2005, 03:27 am
I know for an absolute fact that the true term for this is Glissando, though some people are beginning to call it "Arpeggio" nowadays. >_< I had to check my Theory book to be sure, and it does indeed agree with my first instinct, so there you go; problem solved! :D

EDIT ~ Disregard that. >_< I didn't read the caption in parentheses on the first post.

Stefan
August 21st, 2005, 04:50 am
Here. :P

Tremolo (http://www.geocities.com/jmp24k/tremolo.mid)
Glissando (http://www.geocities.com/jmp24k/glissando.mid)
What we're talking about (http://www.geocities.com/jmp24k/what_we_are_talking_about.mid)

Marlon
August 21st, 2005, 11:38 pm
It's an "arpeggio mark."

hoplite
September 13th, 2005, 01:16 am
my my this thread/post/thing is still alive ^^ haha

CODMAN
September 13th, 2005, 10:19 pm
What is essentially happening is the player is playing the chord, but rather than playing the 1st, 3rd, 5th, 7th, and 9th at the same time, he is doing them one after the other. I guess you could call it a fast arpeggio to the chord, because an arpeggio is playing the 1st, 3rd, 5th, and 7th and then back down one after another.

I guess you could also call it a grace not, a not that there isnt strong emphasis on but leads up to a not that has strong emphasis. Except, that is usually just one note, not a chord. Hmmm.....