:\ :whistle: eheh...well i can play the piano quite well, but uhmm, you see I'm trying to learn by myself but I can't read notes :heh: :cry: Its easy if you don't need chords and just play it simply. But...

Ohhh...where can I find a site that gives sheet music with the keys under the notes so that I would just have to read that and not the notes, then...well i'd improvise. Lol. ^^ :P

hrm.. I still follow this certain way of reading notes. Try this method I am currently using.

TREBLE CLEF
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Notice that there are spaces between the lines. There are 4 spaces. From the bottom up you spell F A C E as face for easy reference.
Now as for the lines, there are 5. From the bottom up you say Every Good Boy Does Fine (EGBDF) for easy reference.

BASE CLEF
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Now for the spaces between the lines, the process works differently. From the bottom up you say All Cows Eat Grass (ACEG) for easy reference.
For the Lines, you do the same procedure as the trble clef, but this time differently. You say Good Boys Do Fine Always (GBDFA) for easy reference.

I recommend you to print this out, and put it next to you the next time you need to find out the letter of the note. Soon you will be able to recite these on your own without referring back to the paper. Then soon you will learn to read the notes without decifering them by looking at their positions, and ta da you'll sightread in no time.

I'm still stuck in the ACEF, FACE, GBDFA, and EGBDF sequence. I dont know why i cant remember the note's positions.

i know i've heard this only a thousand times, but only today did i actually notice how much that helps o_O!

you never know if it helps or not unless you try it.

I usually write out the notes on my sheet. That way, I won't have the trouble of memorizing the freakin keys. I also know that the Bass Clef is the same as Treble, except it's a whole step lower when reading it. But the position of the keys are lower. Like the middle C, it'll be located 7 notes lower. :D

Here are the notes of the staff... http://www.free-online-piano-lessons.com/images/StaffGuide.gif And here are the notes on the keyboard.. http://www.smu.edu/totw/keybrd.gif >.> The middlest most note on your keyboard is... C... These diagrams should help...

Now... To help memorize the clefs, I put a red dot next to every note you need to memorize. You can forget the rest of the notes, cuz these notes are the most base notes for beginners. Memorize these, and you will always know, "Well, here C, so B is right below it" and ect." http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/Wolf-keeper/StaffGuide.gif

thank you so much *kiss*!! it heLps a Lot. right now i'm practising canon and minuet. its pretty envigorating coz the music is Light ^_^

Just wondering, what Minuet? Bach's in G major?

EDIT - Sorry, misread Noir's post. Disregard this.

Learn to play by ear. that's how I play the Guitar and keyboard

Yes! Play by ear first (it has been proven that people that start by ear and after a while start reading notes and reading theory tend to be the most successful :) )!

Well there is another system using only numbers for notes. It was harder to learn that version for me, but who knows, it might work for u :). Good luck

My friend used that method of learning, too. :)

If you have them available, alfred's (which I used) or other method books help out. They start from square one and built up from there. That's what I learned piano by.