He was an integral part of the forum and contributed a GREAT deal, especially to the RP. I think that deserves some recognition and making a separate thread seems approppriate for that

I wonder... what does make a person integral to the forum. Wit and a sense of humor can hardly be enough to ensure a place in the annals of Outstanding Members, and cannot buy you the right to create a new thread when you leave.

What qualities, in your opinion, are necessary for a person to be an important part of the community? (don't say "(s)he has to be respected ny fellow members - explain how he should earn their respect)

I can tell you it's not devotion. I think I'm pretty devoted to this forum and spend a lot of time on it, yet a lot of people seem to hate my guts.

i'm over hating you angelic. it was only for a second that i did, and i don't even remember why anymore... :unsure:

anyways, what I think makes people popular is what they do around the forum, not nececarily(sp?) how involved they are. its all about helping people and gaining their respect, as opposed to doing things on the forum and waiting for the public to decree you popular. its the helping of the individual that gains you respect, in my opinion. focus on each member as a person, not the forum as a whole

well, thats my opinion, anyway.

mystery editor, did you read my post before answering? I didn't ask what makes you popular, as you may have concluded from reading the title, but what makes you an important part of this forum...

I've seen some really helpful and supportive people here. They seem to have earned people's respect. I also think people who have been here a long time are recognized simply for that reason.

crap, i did it again... sorry. it was late, and i meandered off into a different subject :heh:

and now i've lost my answer... dang...

What makes people important in communites? Simple..

what we have to offer.

People who follow around and does nothing nor speaks contribute nothing to a community; they are replaceable.
If they disappear, nobody will feel anything.

On the other hand.. people who have much to offer contributes much to a community; they are important and are irreplaceable.
If they disappear, people will definitely feel it.

What makes people important in communites? Simple..

what we have to offer.

People who follow around and does nothing nor speaks contribute nothing to a community; they are replaceable.
If they disappear, nobody will feel anything.

On the other hand.. people who have much to offer contributes much to a community; they are important and are irreplaceable.
If they disappear, people will definitely feel it.
Agreed.

A sense of humour that appeals to everyone does help.

lol. Why worry about popularity. What happens, happens, and in the end, everyone is important in some way or another.

What makes people important in communites? Simple..

what we have to offer.

People who follow around and does nothing nor speaks contribute nothing to a community; they are replaceable.
If they disappear, nobody will feel anything.

On the other hand.. people who have much to offer contributes much to a community; they are important and are irreplaceable.
If they disappear, people will definitely feel it.

You took the words right out of my mouth (or hands, in this case.) Contribution is indeed the keyword. Like Angelic said, devotion to a forum isn't as important as contribution. If you come here everyday, and check this forum for new threads, make threads, and reply to old ones, it does you no good if they aren't a contributing part of the forum, or a good contribution. For example, saying "I agree" or "I think so too" or even "why do you think this is?" isn't a good contribution. Saying you agree and backing it up with reason and explanation is. Starting a post with a good question or topic that can be discussed by everyone is, without losing interest, is.

Topics that are things like "What is your favorite final fantasy character?" and "What's your favorite color?" and perhaps "How many friends do you have?"; these die out quickly, do not incite users to post, and do not have a productive purpose for users to get along. Part of the reason I was a way (a large part of it) was because I was tired of having to sort through this spam. Adding substance to something is a contribution, to my belief.

So if you wish to be "popular", it is reccomendable you learn how to contribute first. Then, as you contribute more and more, you'll become a more valuable member.

Damn x_x This is what I get for naming a topic with an everyday word - people start answering without reading my first post... *sigh*

I repeat, this thread is not about popularity, but about what earns a member respect from fellow members. Until someone proves to me that that is the same as "popularity" please stop using the word.

This topic was NOT created to figure out how to become more important to this forum. It is to find out what makes great members great.

Perhaps you are missing what I am saying. I think an important member and a valuable member are the same thing. I read your first post, and responded to that. Tell me where I did not answer your question, please.

the part about "so if you wish to be popular" - thats what's pissing me off x_x

sorry if I offended you

I think people can earn respect purely by expressing thier vews in a constructive ways and discussing things properly. like members that frequent the general chat forum. Also forum staff, but being in power isnt an automatic reason for respect. Angelic has eared and deserves our respect for example, we all slip up now and then.
Then there are those who earn respect through what they do for others and make people smile, the popular side of things so to speak.

^ mhmm, that's exactly.. just like my previous post

What people have to offer to others in whatever way that isn't retarded is what will earn them respect.

I think everyone is a part of the forums, and I know not everyone will agree with me.

Each person has a diffrent personality, and many dont like it. I have a distinctive way to talking and arguing about things, and Ive noticed some people dont like it. But I personaly think everyone is a part of the forum. But it doesnt mean that you deserve respect from the elders here.

I think from being a part of the forum, you need to be respected and looked up to. I look up to many people here. Many are very intelegent, knows what they mean and are a perfect example of a smarter person, and from that I look up to many of the people here.

But that doesnt make a good member. You can be the presedent of MENSA and not get our respect. To me a great member, you must contrabute alot to the forums. You must do what will help everyone, not just your self. Its the ability to keep your cool, listen and then give. You can read and post, but if your post ends up like a flame war twords someone, damn your screwed.

"Havent you heard of kindness?"

No one likes to be yelled at for mistakes. Everyone makes them, and some forget they arnt perfect. And if they absolutly forget they arnt and just CAPS all the time, you will never get respect.
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So to sum it all up, to be respected, you must show respect to everyone. You must contrabute your part, and listen. You dont have to be smart, but then a smart-ass wont get any where.

"what people have to offer to others..."

so as long as a person has something unique to offer to a forum, something which no other members can, or at least, not to the same extent, will earn that member respect.

of course this assumes that what he offers is demanded by the forum, right? ^^;

Well, a forum may have a main reason to be up. Ichigos is ment to be a music forum, but as you can see, it is more active in the randomness section.

Soo...I could say that you are respected my most forum goers here (I respect you, your intelegent and nice :D) and have alot to offer. Yet I havent seen you transcribe any music for a while if you ever did. Yet that doesnt stop people from respecting you.

So I guess to get respect, you must give respect. I said it once and ill say it agian, you can be a super member that has pwnge, but still wont get respect from anyone untill you give some.

Um...I'd like to point out that some people fake who they are on this forum sometimes. You can never tell so I think it is hard to respect someone unless you've spoken to them in some other way. I don't think there are many people here that do that but I know there's a few around.

I would have found it hard to respect Angelic if I didn't speak to him outside of this forum. If you don't know the person, you shouldn't really judge them anyway.

Why would someone want to be popular on a forum anyway? It's much better to be with your friends outside of the forum. Being popular in real life isn't actually that great. People can suck up to you and there's always someone who's going to be jealous. Unless you like being the centre of attention, it's not that brilliant an experience.

What do you have to do to be popular on a forum? Just be yourself, and if others can't respect you for who you are, then that's just their problem really. It's the same in real life.

... i'm guessing you didn't read the first post either, or at least not fully. Nobody is talking about being popular, this is a discussion of respect

You know what Alone....I'm just really stupid...:heh:

I DID read the first post, I just didn't remember exactly what it said.

Ok I'll rephrase what I was meant to say in conjunction with the topic:-

What do you have to do to gain respect on a forum? Just be yourself, and if others can't respect you for who you are, then that's just their problem really. It's the same in real life.

supposing I agree with you; but then that person goes to another forum, and nobody respects him there; and this happens everytime.

So what is he supposedto do? kill himself - nobody respects him for who he is, and to fake your personality is immoral

Well killing yourself is just plain stupid. You don't know those people so you shouldn't let it get to you. What's important is that you have friends in real life. That's all you need. The thing is, people who regularly go on an internet forum are only a proportion of the whole population - they are people who use a computer regularly instead of going out because they are more homely. You can't assume everyone doesn't respect you without taking this into account.

From answers.com:

popularity: the state of being widely admired, accepted, or sought after
respect: admiration given by others

So, it sounds like popularity is gaining respect from many people...

Meh, if you want respect here you have to be understood. You could write an explination of yourself to be understood, or you could merely help someone out and thus be understood.

I say "understood" merely because we all know people will have their own thoughts about you; the more you reveal the less they will have to make up of you and of course vice versa. Without a doubt no one is really "hate worthy". If you feel there is someone worth true disrespect then you just don't understand their full perspective.

My suggestion: Quality and quanity. Put out your opinions, and elaborate on them. Become more active in the General Chat forum and remember some of what the Vet's do. Eventually you'll hit a point when you'll know what to do and what not to do.

A littl' bit of everything. Humour, intellect, sometimes even strictness (hey Angelic - you've earned my respect that way XD)

showing only one quality will get you respect from those who value that quality.