Hello! I am Maestro and these are my compositions. They really aren't "finished" compositions, because they are not published by any one manufacturer. I think that an Opus'ed song should be perfect to the composer, and has gotten a few good remarks by tough criticts. Anyway, I hope you enjoy my compositions.

News:
At the moment, I am working out a Sonata and a few Etudes as well. I might have little songs here and there, or "drafts."

I went ahead and made a MIDI for non-Noteworthy users, so you can thank me later. ^__^

Rhapsody-Impromptu

In the bluntest of terms, I really didn't like this piece much at all. None of the melodies seem inspired to me, and the progression is so basic that it bored me. :| If you want a good review, you would have to actually put some more work into a composition; 2 days just can't cut it, I'm afraid.

Sounds like a few broken scales with arpeggiated chords and random trills. The phrases seemed stretched thin and slightly incoherent.

also, remmeber, noteworthy doesn't make anything exact. that's why, when i get one, when i get a good piano to copmputer recorder, ill be able to show something that's different. this is just messing around kinda. a test file if you will. anyway, thanks for the comments.

Ok, I wrote this song a WHILE back. my first song you can say that i actually wrote down. ill be posting other old ones here and there, when i feel comfortable. Any comments on this, will be taken. if you think it sounds easy, well i wrote it when i had about 1-2 months of piano lessons, and playing stupid songs. this is just called an Etude, because it was for me.. to write a song, kinda testing myself. but whatever, here it is. still is noteworthy.

there's some parts that obviously dont flow correctily. noteworthy says you can put Fermatas in, but it doesn't hold it. and you cant put arpeggios, theres on chord in the song, you may notice, but its the chord of D-F-A-C, it shud be an arpeggio chord. and remember, wrote this long time ago. but put more than two days in it, about 2 weeks lol..

You know, Noteworthy allows you to save as a midi file.
I didn't really like this song. It didn't make sense to me.

-exactly, i hate composing with noteworthy. thats why i want to geta recorder. this, i cant have any expression. my etude sounds MUC MUHC MUCH MCUHCUMCUCNCMUHC better when its being played by a human.... that either wrote or knows expression. with noteworthy u can't to chromatics/crsendos or anything. with repeats, u can't do "skippings" or anything. and the other programs don't make sense to me.

Nice work. The first one reminded me of Fantasie Impromptu, noticed a lot of scales and trills. 8/10. And for the etude, pretty good for a 2 month student pianist. It made me sleepy though at the end :sleeping: XD. Gimme more!!!!:heh: If you dont like the noteworthy, try FINALE 2006. i downloaded it ( :whistle: ) and it was great! You can even turn midi into mp3! How Awesome ^.^ . I got it by Bittorrent. If you want more help for bittorrent, check this website

http://www.animeyume.org/tutorials.php?id=3 (animeyume - anime for you and me XD ). Also check the bittorent clients on the left menus. Cant wait to hear more compositions. :)

hah, someone found a similarity to my impromptu. yes, i found out that it started and was kidna like the fantasie like right when i posted it... thx anyway, least someone likes my compostition/s... =P, yea ill try finale 'o6

if i can, can i edit some stuff on the impromptu? y'know, just for fun? Ill be great

Since you can edit the song in NoteWorthy, it'd be neat if someone varied it around, made it sound different. That'd be cool.

Well anyway, here..


.... read the first post, and yes u can make some variations or whatever you want.. just say i made it first :lol:

Alright, since I want you people to play it one your own, here's my draft (on manuscript paper) of Prelude No. 5. You have to play it PERFECTLY. When it says "pedal thru whole song" that doesn't mean have it held down the whole time.. it means to never have it up more than one half count. Take it off, then on each "phase."

Although I spent only one hour on it, many of my family members liked it. My band teacher and piano teacher, both old friends, loved it also. If you want, post a recording of yourself playing it. Then I'll judge you:lol: .

Here,

Page 1 - http://xs53.xs.to/pics/05442/img009.jpg
Page 2 - http://xs53.xs.to/pics/05442/img010.jpg

Sorry for the size, but I'm sure you can resize it.

When I get a better MIDI program, I'll make a "neater" version of the song, so you can read it easier.

Thanks! ^_^

*falls aswweeep*

Well, my shit's better than anything that I've heard you make. All of yours sound the same. You have the most MODERN sounding style. I go back to the roots. And you compositions obviously haven't discoverd FEELING and EMOTION. Your work doesn't sound inspirational at all. You judge me, and I hear yours and it sounds like junk.

Just like you little punks going around making music that sounds the same. Make something thats real. use a pencil or pen, and amnuscript paper. If you want to become a known composer, at all, you can't let computers play them... If I had a good recorder, I'd play everyone of my works...

And listen, I'm not saying that I'm some God to you, just waking you up from your own little universe, to come into the REAL WORLD..

(Admins and Mods, sorry for "harshness." But Beethoven is exactly like me.)

*smiles* Yes, you are exactly like Beethoven. I kneel before you.

If your post above will have the slightest inpact on me (or others) I would first like to hear something of value, something to back you up with. Without that, you're just embarrassing yourself.

Hm, so you don't like modern music, huh? Why is it then, that I could imagine Eminem rapping what you just wrote on your post along with some catchy beat? XD

Cheers mate, and calm down x_x;;

Hah.. that a backup to some shitty music. by the way, make something classical... you're seriously out of your own state of mind, you are.

You narrow-minded idiot. 'Make something classical'? Did I seriously hear you say that?

A back up track for a Rap song... Did i hear you SAY THAT?.. It's stupid with your "come-backs." You forgot what you even said before this. I won't take the comments you made as insults, but as an insignifigant other. you can do the same for my comments.

I may BE to serious, but at least I confess about my problem... You little punk.

A back up track for a Rap song... Did i hear you SAY THAT?
No..?

*sigh* whatever.

u rulez

[QUOTE=Noir7] Why is it then, that I could imagine Eminem rapping what you just wrote on your post along with some catchy beat? XD
QUOTE]


... lol may not be your words, but thats how im processing them XD

O.o

Maestro, you need to calm down. You asked for people's opinions, and they gave them. And just because someone else writes in a different style doesn't mean it's wrong. Since the general consensus here states that your pieces are not "active" enough (just counting all the sleeping comments), then you would probably want to listen to the majority, not that people don't "understand" you or whatever.

Although, this is the most interesting compositions thread... >.<

Hmm,. then i should post my old preludes, then my variatives on them.. ahh the others are more "faster-paced."

also i still want to see people literally "write" down their own music.. and no, not with a computer lol..

To Maestro:

Holy crap. O_O SOMEONE stuck a porcupine up Maestro's urethra. >_>;

If the only option you see for heightening your self-esteem is lowering that of others, then you are just a fucking idiot with some serious head issues. At least the other composers around here don't bash other people's work-- calling it "shit" or "emotionless junk." Besides, hundreds of other good reviews can't be wrong; if you can't realize how well-inspired Noir7 (among others such as Klonoa and Al) are as composers, then you really need to get a bobby pin and ask your mommy to clean out your ears. >_>;

Note that you said earlier that one of your compositions "really sucks, [has] no flow, [and possesses] just made up melodies." If you're going to give us stuff that even YOU initially label as half-assed garbage, what gives you the spectacular idea that we'd think it any better? Honestly!

One more thing, your sig and profile really give off the impression that you're a complete ass. >_>; It's OK to be confident of your abilities, but you're getting a little TOO full of yourself. O_O Ever heard of being "humble?"

As for your composition....

Étude I ~

Once again, you seem to be lacking in the melody factor. Try to come up with a really nice melody before you actually sit down and make something; if you're humming a melody during passing periods at school that is rightfully yours and you remember it long enough to have it notated, those often work well. As for your progression, it was, once again, too basic for my taste. Even the classical era (the era in which your music seems most closely associated with), they had a balance between consonance and dissonance: if you have a song that's COMPLETELY consonant, it's just plain boring, whereas if you have a song that's COMPLETELY dissonant, it's just cacophonous. Learn how to use dissonance at an early stage so you will grow more comfortable with it quicker.

Other than that, it's OK I guess. >_>; I'll review your "Prelude" later.

The only thing more irritating than trudging through that "etude" (I doubt you know what and "etude" is; if you do, then what skill is it trying to teach?) is listening to your presumptous, self-absorbed, immature, whiney lashing-outs. All your etude is basically is a bunch of random notes in boringly moving downwards, then back up. There's no rhythmically/harmonically/melodically interesting parts; no phrasing; no emotion; no climax; no development; no culture; no theory; not even a theme. Oh, wow, a 7th chord. Fan-freakin-tastic. That was about as riviting as it got. It's merely a bunch of notes going up and down. I nearly burst into tears when I saw the number of repeats, especially the middle section; not because of any inherent "beauty" (and don't try giving me that "it haz 2 be playd kwtf" crap;Horowitz couldn't make that song interesting) but beacuse it made me feel like gouging out my eyes with rusty objects.

Your "manuscript" (wow, it's hand-written; I must just not "understand it," right?) looks like you took the same boring-ass "rhythm" (oooh, it's 3 quarter notes and a tie. Nice one, jackass.) and repeated it ad nauseum, but moved it up/down a line or so. Whoopdey-doo.

This little "review" would have been nicer if hadn't acted like such a pompous, presumptuous little bastard. I, too, have minor qualms with some other composer's musics on this board, too, but, goddamn it, it's better than this stuff.

just wondering, how do you put together notes on noteworthy? thanks.

And lets not start a fight here ok?

(Admins and Mods, sorry for "harshness." But Beethoven is exactly like me.)

Ugh, no offense, but seriously, that is a disgrace in Beethoven's name. He was a prodigy! Well-known and famous. While you... sadly, are not. Nice try, but please do not compare yourself with one as such a high stature as Beethoven. That sentence nearly killed me. Thank you.

Ah, and also, I'm not going to say that I'm a great judge or anything, so everything I refer to is to the general consensus of your reviews.
Just because you can compose things, doesn't mean you sound great. Now, I admit, I haven't made and compositions, but that doesn't mean I can't play well. So I suggest that you stop sounding so pompous and bigoted, because that makes people act harsher towards you.

What he meant by that quote was that Beethoven tended to be harsh as well towards his critics, well, not exactly harsh, but direct and to the point. And Maestro reasoned that if Beethoven could be like that, so could he.

Maestro: Beethoven and Chopin worked really really hard to make their songs sound great (instead of spending only 2 days like the first song you posted here). It's one thing to have talent, and it's another thing to make good use of it and not take it for granted. Beethoven kept a notebook where he wrote down his ideas, and he was continually modifying his music. As for Chopin, an excerpt from George Sand revealed that his musical ideas came fast to him, but then he'd spend days pacing back and forth, breaking pencils in range, trying to perfect each individual bar.

You admire your heros so much, but you can't copy them perfectly . . from adhering to the classical/romantic style to writing your scores on paper . . that's nice and all, but it won't help you until you take our constructive criticisms carefully and analyze your music better. And I will be seriously freaked out if you attempt to make yourself deaf, and then compose in that state =P

*kicks Maestro for such rudeness to the God of Ichigo's Music*

*kicks Maestro for such rudeness to the God of Ichigo's Music*


See what I mean?

O.o for such violence...

What he meant by that quote was that Beethoven tended to be harsh as well towards his critics, well, not exactly harsh, but direct and to the point. And Maestro reasoned that if Beethoven could be like that, so could he.

Maestro: Beethoven and Chopin worked really really hard to make their songs sound great (instead of spending only 2 days like the first song you posted here). It's one thing to have talent, and it's another thing to make good use of it and not take it for granted. Beethoven kept a notebook where he wrote down his ideas, and he was continually modifying his music. As for Chopin, an excerpt from George Sand revealed that his musical ideas came fast to him, but then he'd spend days pacing back and forth, breaking pencils in range, trying to perfect each individual bar.

You admire your heros so much, but you can't copy them perfectly . . from adhering to the classical/romantic style to writing your scores on paper . . that's nice and all, but it won't help you until you take our constructive criticisms carefully and analyze your music better. And I will be seriously freaked out if you attempt to make yourself deaf, and then compose in that state =P

nicely said.:yes:

Oh, BTW, I WAS kidding when I said that. However, I do think that you should take my advice (this is coming from someone who tried to tear up certain people for fairly harsh critiques). It won't get you ANYWHERE if you just bash other people because they didn't appreciate your music as much as you do. I speak from EXPERIENCE. I really liked that song that you posted (the one in midi), but I felt it could have been better combined into one piece of music. It seemed too distinctly seperated without good transitioning from one section to the next.

Well thank-you. I know, I am sorry for being harsh. I'm having very emotional problems with my family. I feel very confused and alone. This makes me irritable.

Anyway, I want to have a program thats easy like Noteworthy, but you can use cres. and different repeats, and things like that. Noteworthy is good for writing/making compositions that are almost TOO structured. So i turn to writing on manuscripts. I try to use other programs, but it's a lot harder. Noteworhy (i use it for) is good for writing something easy, just it can't be "detailed." This is one factor of why some of my pieces in midi suck.

Anyway, take into consideration what I said about this.

Welllll, then I doubley know how you feel.

ahhhhh. i love it when people work things out. :)

dont we all lol...


wow, i was improvising in C minor (again lol fav key) and found a sweet melody. gonna write down in noteworthy and post on here. i cant find a good left hand that fits in well..

justa little thing i wrote down. wondering if this s00p3r beta prototype is anything of use.. its copyrighted by me lol..

It was good, me thinks, and I'd say to add more instruments. :)

yea.. im having the idea of having the left hand doing 8th note chords with the melody. obviously switching. like doing a C base, then a Eb-G-C chord after it.

Ok, i also wanted to compose something mystic.. well another idea struck me, and here is the beginning.. obviously hasn't been worked with more than 45 mins. still wanting an intro.. this , you can say, is an intro verse lol.. also attached a nwc file of it to see the music for it. (only for noteworthy) I don'tknow about you, but so far i like it lol.. it seems the most "put together" thing that ive made. mainly, my first concerto/orchestral piece as of now. the one thing i like is the clarinet in the mear background playing 2 notes under the piano. the harp and the timpiani i made in the background but still there. i have the flute and the strings one doing a 3rd octave C (from middle C) and the strings 2-following the waltz harmony of the left hand in the piano. the brass holds the piece together while playing dotted half notes to have the piece have a "crust" to the melodies "pie." More coming for this concerto! (And the name isn't permanent lol..)

Didn't sound very flowy (maybe 3/4 time signature or something? :think: ), I think, and that sustained string ensemble note got rather annoying after a while.

But it sounds pretty mystic and video-gamish. :P

well, its a work in progress, going to suck, and yea i was re-thinking bout the 1st violins and flute.

This is mainly the final MUSIC copy of the concerto. i didn't want it to have many melodies, more fo a study for myself to use orchestral music. over time i mgiht have it edited in some places, and even more parts.. you can say this piece is a scherzo.

The timing at the begginning was pretty awkward, then after 0:11, it got good. Nice orchestration, by the way. :)

thanks, im not good with orchestral introductions. put when i improvise on the piano, it comes like blinking an eye.

That song was my favorite out of all your compositions so far. I wasn't to crazy about the notes in the beginning and the end but I liked the piano in the middle. Good job.

hey everyone, spent about 2 hours on this first draft. i want to kind of create a song with you guys. please, all comments and suggestions are wanted.

umm i thought the first 1:30 kind of dragged on. and the transition at around 2:20 was a little bit abrupt. Nice melody though.

The first part wasn't very interesting or melodic, and it would benefit the peice to have some harmonies and a more interesting rhythm. The melody of the middle part sounds ridiculously like Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D Minor.

Also, the peice is hardly a Scherzo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scherzo) in terms of tempi and subject.

eh.. sorry about copying Bach's song in D Minor. when i improvise i get melodies and then some time down the road, ill hear them on CD... like my one that i thought was SO original in C# minor. well most of the piece sounded like Rachmonioffs Prelude in C# Minor. i was like WHAT THE $#*!.

but ok, im not that experience for composing. im only taking lessons on playing. im looking for books or looking into getting tought (also) to compose.

You should start with theory; once one knows the theory, ons is able to plug it in to parts of his/her songs to make them more interesting. Composing without theory is kind of like composing blind; one can feel around a bit and get some good stuff, but one doesn't have a complete grasp on what he/she is doing. It really helps. There's a tutorial thread somewhere on these forums which will probably have some helpful links.

I have to say your obsession with classical music is not healthy...
you should try and remember what all classical composers had in common, they were all trying to do something that was never done before...

the only thing they had a problem with is the eternal pursuit of a song that describes no feeling at all...

no one has been able to compose that emotionless piece yet!:shifty:
you try it ,I have... its a hard nut to crack

You should start with theory; once one knows the theory, ons is able to plug it in to parts of his/her songs to make them more interesting. Composing without theory is kind of like composing blind; one can feel around a bit and get some good stuff, but one doesn't have a complete grasp on what he/she is doing. It really helps. There's a tutorial thread somewhere on these forums which will probably have some helpful links.


Theory, ok ill try finding a book or website.. even asking one of my music teachers.. about the Music Theory. thanks again velvet.

Well, you can use dynamics effectively, something I've never really done. The constant arpeggios get annoying (one of the reasons why I think Moonlight Sonata's First Movement is a bit crappy :\ ).

Then once it got to around 1:30, it was awesome. 1:55 - 1:57 sounded a little bad, but that wasn't such a problem. But then you returned to those boring arpeggios. :heh:

But I'd have to say it's a very admirable piece. Great job. :)

Thanks. like i said im looking for good sources to teach myself the Music Theory..

And when i do dynamics, its something that has to do with espression. if cresendo wasnt a thing.. what would be music? thats why with music now adays. they know only one tone of loudness. no build up.. i know my buildup is little at the moment, but soon it wont be ^^

I usually build up with the addition of intsruments, but in this case, it's a piano solo, so it seems quite reasonable. :think:

Yea, i like piano solo compositions better than orchestral ones. this probably isnt full correct, but before chopin and beethoven, piano wasn't like THE INSTRUMENT as it is today.. i mean, you dont see a lot of flute/clarinet/string solos. unless it's a quartet or symphony. now i know their might be ones, but im saying the majority.

chopin and beethoven really made the piano the main instrument.

Ok, i wrote this piece about when i first got noteworthy. Since I've learned a little about compositions, I varied it so it sounds better. Before this, I should of had the original one I did in July.

Didn't have a name for it then, and still not now, so it's just Arrangement (G major)

The instruments are:

Pipe Organ (Lead)
Piano (Secondary)
Strings I & II (Ending)

I like the finale to this. It's the only time the strings play for about 40 seconds. And the organ and piano have the back-up to the strings playing the melody.

The intro was a bit medeorker, but I would put a rest before it got into the theme, but noteworthy wont echo like a hall or room would.

Comments Please!

for some odd reason that reminded me of the jurrasic park theme.

lol? it did huh?

not to jump to conclusions, but i dont even know jurrassic park's theme lol..

it actually doesn't sound like it; it just made be reminisce about that movie i guess

oh.. k

Er... I didn't like it... It was boring... and I didn't like some of the chords...

e0e..

im working on a Etude (not boring like my first one) it's in a easy key for the study, well for me, but it has to do with grace notes with apeggio chords, and fast switching. the left hand is kind of the same throught the piece, but im still debating on making it flowy, or "sectional"

It was kinda boring, no offense...

Yea, like i said, wrote when i didnt even know how to compose very well.. buit ur lucky i edited it, some of the notes dragged on in the original. i know it repeats, but hell, it as a first try for an arrengement ^_^

Here's kind of a taste of what i have now. i know it sucks for flow, and im wating for something to hit me(like abrick)so i can put in for a more "flowy sence." Also, I have to work on some parts because i started to write this before i got a very little skin for music theory. and some parts you'll go, is it hard to play or easy to? well, when i was playing it, it wasnt hard at all to me. But then again, you should always play your compositions the best. But with this sample, you'll get the idea of what the songs like..

Key = Ab Major

Good. Sounds like an etude! XD

if you have noteworthy, try and play it (im saying, you can see the music playing)

and also, im posting nwc file for my etude, D minor. mainly an etude for doing scales that do.. well white key-black key-white key.. etc
- it needs a lot more improvising for it though.. its hard to make melodies up for something like that.

also a midi from a song that i improvising, put some structure into it, and here is it... mroe of a modern try for me.. >.>

I do like the melody, but the left hand needs MUCH more variation in my opinion, not just blocked chords banging over and over again. Try ONE section with a moderate amount of that, and maybe a section with broken chords, etc.

I agree. :)

Wait, which onea re you talking about death and marlon? etude ab or etude d minor

Hey guys, I got this idea a few days ago, kind of wrote it down, and in the last two days or so, I came out with this. It's just a little etude I made (that's where the name comes from :heh: ).

The study is mainy the switching notes in the left hand, and a little bit of a rythum in the right. You might not call it an etude, but when you play it, it's kind of good for warm-ups. Try it sometime.

You can mainly say it's in an ABA form; it isn't a Scherzo though, just the "themes" are different.

The first theme just repeats itself twice, in the beginning and end. The the middle (more minor sounding part) its only presented once, but repeats itself.

I kind of made the ending brief. It isn't a real big song, so why have a giant ending I thought. So I just put a little thing in, two simple chords with octaves fitting in at the end. Sounds great! I hope you like it!

Not bad, though some of the modulation feels kind of uneven and jumpy. And even though this is an etude, it'd be nice if the right-hand had a more interesting part to play than just simple octaved notes. The transition at ms. 29 sounded like it was going to take the piece into a new direction, but instead just chops to the beginning section again. Anyways, the triplet ostinato part is not a bad idea for an etude, but don't feel obligated to tightly stick to that formula at the cost of musicality.

Alright. Thanks for the comments, I will look at them, and try to work with it overtime. Yea, some of the transitions wern't to good, gotta wait for somethimg to hit me; and you can't have inspiration WANTED to come to you.. unless you're Mozart of course lol..

Wait, which onea re you talking about death and marlon? etude ab or etude d minor

We spoke of your Melody-Draft (at least I did).

Anyways, your new is O.K. Gets kinda boring after a while; it's all like, "To ne ni, to ne ni, to ne ni, to ne ni, to ne ni...." Well, you get the point. :heh:

lol.. yea like i said, i was just putting chords in their for chord progression. ive always kind of wanted to do that, and when i can find notes that'd go with a main chord, ill put them in. i could of done a long tone (whole) note, but it'd lose interest FAST...

Hey everyone, I'm working on a new prelude. I got the idea and I wanted to make a melody out of it. I wanted it to be a prelude because the four notes seem to sound like a prelude would.

I've named it fall because it counds just like the season. Picture leaves falling from trees.

However, this is still a work in progress. I'll be editing it over time.

Ooh, I love it. ^.^

Yay! Someone finally said something about it !

Thanks >.>

Sounds good. You managed to convey a seasonal feel well, at least, which was something I tried to do and failed.

Eddy, failure can be the most succesful thing you can do. "Try, try again." as the saying goes. Just work at something, as this piece I made, and something may turn-out to your liking!

Wow, this song has a lot of potenial to be really good. It sounds like my brother's style only classicalish. It's good.

Potential! Ok, now I have to make it perfect; aganst my will!^_^ Lol! just kidding!

Thanks though Wifey !

I said potenial cause I have so many ideas for it whch would make sense since I'm so used to remaking my brother's songs and adding things to them. Once I get my Finale working again, could I add stuff to this song maybe? For the Dual Composition thread.

Sure!

And for a heads-up, I use NoteWorthy. No idea if that will do anything.

Hey, this song is quite a departure from your more "classically"-oriented pieces (what with all those 7ths chords flying about ;)), but seemingly not in a bit way :P. The mood that you were striving for is achieved for the most part, though the melody feels a bit tacked on and rigid in comparison to the freely-flowing arppegios. Try too loosen it up a little with some longer pause, and just give the notes more free of a rhythmic feel. Other than that, this piece seems to be shaping up quite nicely - I look forward to the end result.

Alright. I have taken your comment into consideration. After listening to my piece a few times, I've kind of targeted this. Thank you =D!

As you may of seen the previous thread, "Dedication Inspiration" as posted by me, this is so far of what I have got on my composition for my Grandmother.

La Lumière de ciel pour J.K. is French for, "Heaven's light for J.K."

I want to make this very perfect. The parts you hear may not be in the final draft, so don't be too "whooed" with this. Just comments please.

It'd do to have a bit more varied melody in some parts, especially the beginning after the intro. I like the feel of the peice, but try and find exactly the right melody to fit it.

Yes. What I'm trying to do, is fit what is being said the best. This will be a piece that will be perfect, no matter what it'l take.

This shall resemble my grandmother, I just need God and time to take their ways...

I don't like the melody at some parts (actually, most parts). I think the consecutive notes killed the song.

Then again... your modern.. I'm classical.
People that study, listen, compose and actually have a love for it, would have gotten a better comment. Thanks anyway Mar !

He's right, though. I only listen to classical music, but I would agree that the melody could use some more variation then what it currently has. The melody doesn't suck, but it's definately not as interesting as it could be. If nothing, add a secondary harmony in the melodic hand which trails the melody at either a third or a sixth in order to improve it. Near the end, too, the modulations seem to make less and less logical sense, and seem to not move in any sort of memorable pattern. If you explore how the melody sounds in different keys, it usually sounds better to move in a pattern up or down; ie, stepwise or by perfect intervals like thirds, fifths, or sixths.

Alright. Thanks Py.

Hey everyone. This is a song that I love that my Band teacher composed for us in Jazz Band. Called, "Yacht Club Llamas of the Yucatan." I was messing around on the piano with practicing my bass part on the piano, then I found the melody of the song while improvising on the piano.

So I decided to start making a Piano Version of the song. Here is what I've done so far from memory of the song. I'll have to check his conductors score what the actual notes are, and what comes after and all of that kind of stuff.

Anyway, here's a draft of it. And yes, it can be played with two human hands. :heh:

heheh, sounds easy and fun to play.

It's OK, but using octaves throughout the entire piece is not effective-- to a point that it actually takes away from the piece. I understand that you didn't have the original piece in front of you, but the progression is simplistic enough that you should have little trouble developing harmonies for it. Based on the key of F minor, I'd do the following for the refrain: i, VII, VI (with a possible seventh), and V. It would be appropriate to constantly have that same progression for the repeats, but it would sound a lot better if you were to experiment with different chords. Not only will it keep the listener more interested, but It would also expand your skills as a musician. ^^

The draft of the piece made to your grandmother does absolutely nothing for me. I feel that, unless you're trying to convey your grandmother as lazy, the melody is far too-- well... Lazy. :P The accompaniment was appropriate for the melody that you constructed, but it's not variated enough. I hope your inspiration comes soon, because that piece really did make me kinda sleepy. XD;

Hmmm...talk about non-existent endings...

I see what you mean, deathraider, but he's probably just out of good ideas for his work. Give him time and he'll finish. :D

Oh, sorry. Once again I fouled up and didn't read his whole post. I see now that is says draft.

Fouled up? LOL! Anyway.. Like I said, I haven't heard the piece in over 3 weeks, and I'll be hopefully hearing it wedensday or friday. Also, I might just ask a few mins to look at his conductors score.

About the octave thing, yea, I didn't find any chords (yet) that could sound like the bass line does. I tried to make the base kind of sound like the percussion (non-pianos) at times. The melody, I noticed, that I could use chords, but I did not find the perfect ones to fit the melody yet.

Even if he can give a crappy audio sameple of us playing sometime, that would help a lot..

Anyway, more to come.

Then again... your modern.. I'm classical.
People that study, listen, compose and actually have a love for it, would have gotten a better comment. Thanks anyway Mar !

I don't mean to be rude, but what do you define as 'classical,' Maestro~?

Mainly not the Classical era, but music from Rachmanioff, down.

Mainly not the Classical era, but music from Rachmanioff, down.

Yeah, that was really the high point of classical music (indeed the high point of Western music in general).

Strange... Rachmaninoff's music is usually described as Late Romantic (though not Symbolistic/Impressionistic), yet your music sounds more Late Baroque/Early Classical to me. I would like to see how you fend with a Romantic piece.

Hmm, I've been wondering, since Chopin and Liszt kind of had a same "simalarity" of the same composing, their many pieces did not always sound "romantic." I mean some of their most famous things aren't very 'Romanitic" (To what I'd call Romance).

Anyway, does Romantic Styles kind of mean, soothing sort of "light" and moving soundings?

If not, please explain in a little detail:huh:

It is arguable, but Romanticism is usually characterized by bewitching and original chord progressions and passionate melodies which work together to convey a certain emotion (or, as in Post-Romanticism and Impressionism, a series of different of emotions or even a mental picture) rather than simply entertain, which was the main purpose of Baroque and Classical music.

With that, though the majority of Chopin's and Liszt's (I don't know why you compared them to each other; they seem entirely different to me) music sounds classical-ish, They still have the harmonic originality that ultimately makes them Romantic.

Mmmm...it's too bad my AP European History book didn't talk at all about the romantic period of music, only the romantic period in relation to the other arts. Why is that? Oh well, thanks for that, because I was also curious.

I like it, except for using the octaves all throughout. But I'm lovin' it! :P

Cool! Meh...abrupt ending. I'll give a full comment when you post the full song but so far so good...

Yes. I've noticed I'm starting to have styles a lot like Liszt now. I'll be improvising and making melodies that can compare to a bit of a style to Liszt. Now, it's obivously not as good as liszt, but you get the idea. He likes his octaves, low low notes, rhapsodic melodies, etc.

But yes, I can see me being Classical/Romantismic (?)

I can't compose Anime/Modern styles of music for crap thats been eaten and out again. Its the rolling notes in the left hand, and light'ish melodies that are hard to figure out.

Hey everyone. This is my latest piece that I started on tonight, and WILL be working into an actual piece. By the title at the top, it is called, "Rondo for String Quartet in Db Major."

Very simple, simple cute melody that I think I developed. The main theme is very light and stacatto like. The second theme is a little more labrant. The third, which is a dance, turns the tempo and song upsidown. It's quite neat at the moment. Somce chords with the lower instruments I have to work out a little bit, bu the two high instruments sound good (as I know of by me).

I'm thinking of a varied kind of approach of the third theme where it seems to end in this version. Return in the Theme again. Do a "Fantasie" theme part. Theme again, then end in the third theme with a little ending.

When it transends into the third theme, or the Dance, I am still trying to find the perfect duration until the three leading notes go into it. I love how the tempo surprizeses you when it goes from a simple and easy going tempo, to a fast and wild hop.

I hope you like this piece as it is so far!

It doesn't seem to flow. x_x

Overall, I dunno... This piece was very awkward until 0:33, and after that, it was "O.K."

Well, at least I like the little part at the end... :heh:

I don't know how much a Rondo is supposted to really flow beautifully, but flow a little. And no, it isnt an ending. Do people read my posts or do they just skip to the song download? Riddle me that....

Anyway. I didn't get much out of the comment it didn't flow well, or that it was awkward at :33 since you (to me) didn't read my post that this was a draft.

I really have no idea what to say about this piece... The beginning I didn't like because it sounded way too simple and too basic. Reminded me of twinkle twinkle little star.

the middle was okay.

the end surprised me. lol
I just don't think it fit well with the rest of the piece.

It doesn't seem to flow. x_x

Overall, I dunno... This piece was very awkward until 0:33, and after that, it was "O.K."

Well, at least I like the little part at the end... :heh:

Notice I said the "little part at the end," not the "ending." Now who isn't reading the posts right? XD

LoL! EDIT HAX!!!

Nah, ok I'll agree. Anyway, this piece wa ssupposed to be kind of like a Mozart thingy. We were playing his Divertimentos 1 + 9, so I got a little idea for a "Cute" and "Bouncy" song.

Alright everyone, this is my first arrangement for piano that I have ever "truthfully" done (truthfully = finished). Anyway, they are the Temple Themes from, "The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time." Which the name from the game should turn a few heads. Just to remind you of the names:

1. Minuet of Forest
2. Belero of Fire
3. Serenade of Water
4. Nocturne of Shadow
5. Requiem of Spirit

Yes, they are for ONE person solo. Although, if you think they are heard (at all) then wow, when I get the sheet music, you'll faint on how easy these really are. Fact was, finding them out wasn't a walk in the park....

Anyway, I'll post the sheet music score later. Here's the arrangement .midi at the moment.

But yes, I can see me being Classical/Romantismic (?)

Hahahaha!!! It's Romantic.

The melody of Minuet of Forest wasn't right.

The melody of Minuet of Forest wasn't right.

Ok, get me the right melody then.

Since you obviously spent 3 weeks figuring it out, right?

No, nor would I. Actually, I'm pretty sure it's just be the fact that the accompany puts it in a major key instead of a minor key (like the original song starts out in), which in my opinion makes it sound kind of very wrong, maybe even "dumb."

The Nocturne of Shadow sounded very dissonant. :\

The other ones were good, though. :)

Ok, get me the right melody then.

Since you obviously spent 3 weeks figuring it out, right?
Wow. Three weeks? Really? You know, if you can't figure out the melody, just give me a ring, I can come up with it in no time! ;)

Rondo in Db major:
I like this one a lot. It might be nice to have the cello/viola do some syncipation in the opening theme, but if you want to keep the simple feeling of the opening, that works too.

I really like the bit at the end of the segment. (I'm a huge Mozart fan, and I can definitely see the influence.)


Temple Themes:

It would be really cool if you expanded these themes to where they could each stand as a movement in a suite. Example: the "Minuet of Forest" isn't a minuet at all. That's not your fault, you're just going with the themes from the game. But you could easily expand that theme to follow minuet form. Now, that might be hard to do with the "Requiem," but that would rater interesting--a requiem for piano.

It seems like a shame to essentially leave the themes untouched since you are clearly capable of doing something really creative with it.

EDIT:
Db major is a REALLY funky key for a string quartet. By funky I mean unnecessarily difficult for strings players. Maybe if you moved it up a half-step to D major, it would be much more playable and allow you to do lots of cool stuff with double-stops and whatnot that would be difficult/impossible in Db major. D also has more resonance in stringed instruments since I think all of them have a D, G, and A string, which are all principle chords in D major.

@Setti: Yea thanks, good to see someone is here to transpose with.

@Alfonso: Thanks for the compliments on the two latest pieces. With the Minuet, I was thinking of changing the left hand so it "stretches" the player some more than in a less-difficult position the whole time, or I might change some of the chords, even the key signature so it takes a little more time than a sight-reading to play it. I like difficult pieces a lot.

With my Rondo, I know it's a funky key-signature, but these songs are just really make belive for the moment *laughs* and I will transpose the change to A Major later. Good to see you saw my little Mozart stufies in there.

And yes, a Requiem for piano... odd.. But like I said it's a Piano Arrangement.

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Ok, for my new piece, "Prelude in D Minor." Yes, a very plain name, but the song is quite neat as I say so myself. Anyway, the main theme I wanted to capture, was a Middle Ages Era dance of some-sort. Oddening, but true. *Laughs*

Temple Themes sound quite nice. ^^ Izzit meant to be piano solo ?

Yes, the Temples are.

EDIT : I will post the sheet music shortly, or when I have the time or organized it cleanly like. :P

The new one sounds terribly like some little tune I made in my second month of piano. XD Anyways, it didn't really grab my attention.

Edits :

Minuet of Forest - Chord and 'Waltz' more alive; Ending more exact

Belero of Fire - Ending 'harp arpeggio' is quickened to exact tempo +++ Corrected the ending part to its ACTUALL notes

Serenade of Water - Made Cresendo in left hand more 'noticable' and neater

Nocturne of Shadow -

Requiem of Spirit - Made left hand 'main' melody exact

These seem little edits make the songs feel a lot more exact than they were.

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@Marlon - The Nocturne of Shadow is SUPPOSTED to sound very dissonant...

The Bolero of Fire and the Serenade of Water sound so beatiful now. ^_^