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Jo-el
December 28th, 2005, 07:13 pm
I should've done this awhile back, but I've been both busy and lazy. Muah!~
So here they are. I've done most of these a while back, and hoping to improve. So lay on the tips, or suggestions or even critisim if you have nothing good to say. lol Well, thank you in advance!

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septermagick
December 29th, 2005, 01:46 am
Red Rush
I was just listening to a slow song and then I put this song on and it was like having a burst of energy. It got my head bobing, too. Very energetic and loads of fun! Huh? Why did I say fun? Anyway, it was really good. I liked the beginning. I could just imagine someone playing that! O.O Oh yeah I did! BTW, I would mind the Sheet Music too that! lol

A New Adventure
I can tell you like fast intros! Some parts seemed random and as Marlon says quite often "It didn't flow." Also, it was very short. It had an abrupt ending, too.

Small Cows, Big Chickens
I can't say a like this song. Very....shrill, if you know what I mean. I didn't like the ending to much either. Not shure exactly what else to say. *Listens again* I think I heard a sax and a clarinet but I can't be to sure. The was some points that didn't seem to "lead into each other" correctly.

Walking On The World's End
This song is nice. I like the flow. I think there was only one part that the "flow" was lost. It started of dark and a little bit after half way it turned cheery. That didn't seem right. Atleast not so sudden. I, like many(?) others, imagine songs as story and it doesn't go from sad to happy in and instant. Felt weird. Something should of lead to that.

Decision
You seem to constantly use the same instrument for your melody. It's repetive and it get's annoying after a while. Try changing it around so you don't bore the audience. This one didn't seem to have too much of a theme. I can't say I like this one too much either.

Hope this helps! It was just a little bit of amature cunstructive critisizm(sp?).

Milchh
December 31st, 2005, 03:07 am
NOTE: In this post I am about to make is intirely judgemental. It may seem harsh, but at the moment it might and shall be the only way I can stress something to this composer.

Red Rush ~ Overall, I could kind of sence something of an "impressness" feeling from this. Almost like you were making this piece to impress the poeple of you writing something fast and minor paced. Correct me if I am wrong, but I really didn't get the feel of an emotion out of it (and no, it's not because of the MIDI sound or whatever). It seemed lost with those chords, and lost melodies. Trying to have something flow a little more, and find a melody that you will truly like. The "melody" of this piece, didn't catch anything at all mainly. Keep trying for the fast pace, and a perfection of feeling into the notes.

A New Adventue ~ I don't know, but I think you were trying to catch some "evil and twisted" kind of sound in this. Not very successful. It sounded more like repediveness in this. Very, very random. Started out like an introduction to a "lyrical song, but ended up into random and rained on notes. To get a twisted feel, must also take a TRUE UNDERSTANDING OF HATE, EVIL, PURESURVIERENCE AND ENDURANCE. I used capitals for reasons that people shall know from their uptight Ego's. Anyway, it does take a serious mind to figure out something of a "hate" kind of sounding song.

Small Cows, Big Chickens ~ The back-up scale is what kind of mainly ruined it from anything of a song. I know scales can be chosen as a background, but their not just the next note after a next note. They switch to others to seem like it's a scale, but it is not. I think the pitch in the "main" instrument is what also ruined it. I know when you have a MIDI writer or whatever you like to call it, you cna have fun with how you write the music, but it doesn't mean it'l sound very "right." Pitch can be a big key to losing and capturing an essay. Just have to find it I guess....

Walking on the World's End ~ Seemed to started out preety good. Then it kind of flowed weirdly. I know you catured a partial think of what you were stating, but you seemed to stumble on some of your words in this speech. You kind of "stuttered" on what you were writing kind of. You finale of this didn't seem to bringhtining. (I don't mean it has to be heroic, or happy. I mean as it should be inspiring.)

Decision ~ Much like the Small Cows, Big Chickens song. Almost the exact comments. Except with the scales, the chords and notes for the background didn't sound to preety.

As I said before, some may be harsh or not very understandable, but try to find meaning.

Jo-el
January 4th, 2006, 10:51 am
Interesting... let's see.

Red Rush:

Although I can see why you (Maestro) would suggest that this song was created merely for impression, and frankly it wasn't. I was actually musing on a different melody, but this one kept harrassing me. So I spent 10 minuets and made this song. It was probably was.... no it's the song I've written using the least amount of time. It didn't care for it too much at first. Now, there should be no emoution attacted to it or at least no intention to, but rather just energy. Though I suppose someone could consider hyperness an emoution (which I don't), but I consider energy or the energy of the song to be physical. Do what you will with the energy no? I admit some reflection on the piece shows me some abstraction of the piece, as to where it did not flow or where it just seemed odd. Oh, and here Septermagick, thank you for your advice! 1042

A New Adventure:

Evil and twisted, ehh? Do all adventures consist of some hero against evil? An adventure can just be a challange or conflict not something demented or spiteful.

Small Cows, Big Chickens:

Yes, I agree is this piece is very shrill. Though I can asure you. That it's due to the fact it's midi. The range its in is not very high at all on a real violin. In fact many famous pieces are quite higher than this or the same. I think after this piece I just stuck with a string ensemble rather than individual string groups since midi horrifically destroys a bowed string sound. The original intent for this piece was a kinda "hunky-dory" farm or even a hick piece, which is why it tried to keep it rather simple, hence the scaleing notes. I was hoping for an slighly more "authentic" feel, if that's the word. I would think a farm theme wouldn't be too complex since it's a farm, less meddled by the city and frivilous affairs. Well, not today's farms anyways now that I think about it. Well, I live in a desert so I don't know too much of farming...

Walking on the World's End:

Stuttered? Oof! *listens over and over* hmn I'm deaf to my own piece... I can't hear what you're saying. I can only hope that I'm too tired to hear it... but I doubt it... *sigh*

Cheery? I never though of it as cheery... When the tone shifts I was always though of it as a realization. But this realization was kinda simple or even obvious and in turn kinda pushed off so when the "realization" became tangable so to speak in the song, that it didn't have a highly dramatic tone altering effect.

Ah, yes the ending annoys me well. I've just haven't gone back to edit, yet. But an inspiring ending I don't want it to be.... more along the lines of reflection.

Decision (Named such since I couldn't deside on a name...o_o... lame I know)

Actually the melody passes through several instruments in the string quartet since it's midi, they all sound the same. (By now I'm sure you can tell I like strings. lol) oof. Yeah, I can see this songs oddities clear thanks to you two.

I thank you both for your comments and suggustions. Oh, and Maestro some of your diction outside of your suggustions seemed slanted, or caliced so to speak. Exactly what was it you were/are trying to stress?

Apollo XI
January 4th, 2006, 10:55 pm
Red Rush: I didn't really like this piece. The speed made it interesting and somewhat exciting but sometimes chords dragged on for about ten seconds at a time, which may not sound like a lot of time, but, in music, it can bore someone really quickly. Also, the chords you picked just seemed really random and had no logical connection. Maybe that's what you intended--some kind of avant garde-like thing--but, even madness has a method to it. =P

With the exception of speed, it seems these two main flaws (monotony and randomness--might sound like an oxymoron but oxymorons have some sense to them if you think about it) are present it these pieces in general, more or less.

A New Adventure: From about 0:28 to 0:42, you go way off key, which I'm guessing was intentional, but you didn't execute it well (randomness, it seems). It just sounded messy and random, and it ruined the flow. Otherwise, I liked the whole piece.

Small Cows, Big Chickens: Okay. This was my least favorite piece. I really disliked the violin. The violin represents the randomness (and it just simply didn't sound good) and the three, monotonous notes in the piano represent the monotony that I'm talking about. I couldn't identify a chord in this piece. Or, if I could (the first of those three monotonous notes in the piano kept screaming C Major) everything else was way too off.

Walking on the World's End: This was my favorite piece. The "randomness" seemed a bit more logical and it was a bit less monotonous. I like it.

Decision: In terms of quality, I'd put this a little bit below "Walking on the World's End". I didn't like the screeching ending at 1:02. Also, I didn't like the violin again. Or, if you wanted to put in a violin, I think it should've been in a lower register, and you should've given its notes to another instrument (maybe a woodwind instrument, or a piano).

Overall, they were all right. "Walking on the World's End" was good. Overal, I just think you need to use the violin better and make your pieces sound more logical and less repetitive.

Jo-el
January 5th, 2006, 11:18 am
Thank you Apollow XI for your advice I'll take what you said to heart. Hopefully there's a large leap of improvement... though improvement in any aspect would be fine too. Heh