What do you think of it? Does it annoy you? Any of your friends gone "emo"?

We sure as hell didn't have "emos" back a few years ago.

Er... I still don't *get* what the hell an "emo" is. I've only just really heard of the term. Chi-Chi tried explaining, but I still don't get it.

Is it, like, "My life sucks and I want to die"?

I dunno, the real into it emo kids annoy me. Luckily there aren't too many extreme emos at my school... that I know of. And to make myself clearer, the only thing I don't like about "some" of them is that it's too hard for them to see what is actually good in their life. I wouldn't say they're all bad or something, and as for it not being here a while ago, I just get this feeling that it may had been on this earth then dissapeared and now ,not secretly, reappeared.

I always thought Emo stood for Emotional. Emotional as in, lyrics you can emotionally relate to, or a feeling almost. Though, I am just going off what I think of it. I think emo(or emotional in my opinion) is emotional in the depressing, sad way and not the "happy happy, joy joy, I'm a kinky sex toy" way.

Though, emo kids I suppose are more like shallow gothics who are only in it for the attention and pay no heed to the origins of the label. It has evolved like the fad of wearing your pants below your ass (which came from people in prison and that sort of stuff, but I won't go into the details of its origin), they don't care what it means, they just do it to fit in.

Er... I still don't *get* what the hell an "emo" is. I've only just really heard of the term. Chi-Chi tried explaining, but I still don't get it.

Is it, like, "My life sucks and I want to die"?
Blandly speaking, your general emo kid would dress in all black, wacky hairdo, listen to the emo music, take photos of themselves in their bathroom, use myspace (:lol:) etcetera.

What they're accused of doing is being morbidly depressed for no real reason, just to fit in with friends and get attention from girls.

Yea. I'm kinding thinking Emo of two things.

Dave Matthews Band kind of people

Punk-ish, not Punk-ish rock kind of people..

JUST SAY WTF THEY ARE PLZ

I don't mind "emo"s they're just people doin their thang.....as long as they don't touch me I'm okay with them ^_~

I'm not too big in classifications and whatnot, and I'm not even exactly sure what an emo is. From what I can gather from the earlier posts, I believe that a nice group of my friends turned emo (and ditched me.) Anyways, I don't really have any opinion on "emo" people, since I judge them from their personalities rather than their appearance.

"Emo or emocore is a subgenre of hardcore punk music. Use of the term (and which musicians should be so classified) has been the subject of much debate.

In its original incarnation, the term "emo" was used to describe the music of the mid-1980s DC scene and its associated bands. In later years, the term "emo-core", short for "emotional hardcore", was also used to describe the DC scene. The term "emo" was derived from the fact that, on occasion, members of a band would become spontaneously and literally emotional during performances. The most recognizable names of the period included Rites of Spring, Embrace, One Last Wish, Beefeater, Grey Matter, Fire Party and slightly later, Moss Icon. The first wave of emo began to fade after the breakups of most of the involved bands in the early 1990s.

Starting in the mid-1990s, the term "emo" began to reflect the indie scene that followed the influences of Fugazi, which itself was an offshoot of the first wave of emo. Bands including Sunny Day Real Estate and Texas Is the Reason put forth a more indie rock brand of emo, which was more melodic and less chaotic in nature than its predecessor. The so-called "indie emo" scene survived until the end of the 1990s, as many of the bands either disbanded or shifted their style to the mainstream.

As the remaining indie emo bands entered the mainstream, newer bands began to emulate the more mainstream style, creating a style of music that has now earned the moniker "emo" within popular culture. Whereas, even in the past, the term "emo" was used to identify a wide variety of bands, the breadth of bands listed under today's emo is even more vast, leaving the term "emo" as more of a loose identifier than as a specific genre of music."

i don't mind it. no it doesn't annoy me. and uhh yeah some of my friends gone emo.

What bugs me is having to read a load of myspace posts from a friend complaining about them

Saying your dont like emo people and your okay with it is like saying you dont like black people or gays and you dont care. Its stupid to think that such little diffrences make people dislike each other, and sometimes hate it each other.

And I find it distrubing how people here have been refering to other humans as "them". So the dress diffrent and listen to diffrent music, whats so wrong with that? Im Asian, dress like a punkish-prep and listen to classical music yet everyone in my town doesnt care.

~

Now, based of what slowdive has listed a general emo kid looks like, I think its really cool. I would dress like that any day, just dont have the guts to do so X=

I semi-agree with you RD, Yes, it is wrong to judge someone because by way they dress, and what music they listen to. And referreing other humans as "them" is an acceptable thing. The world didn't label a certain group of people, they labeled themselves, and by labeling themselves they enabled us the ability for us to call them "Them". The words Them and Us are just words we use in order to (for lack of better word choice) signal who we are talking about.

True. I guess the word "them" can only be used in a bad way depending on the tone of voice used to say it, and in this case I cant say anything because there was no voice.

I didn't mean it as a bad thing.
Actualy I'll just clarify my point:
I don't mind emo people , in fact I know a couple. What I get annoyed about is a friend of mine and his complaining about them

It's not generally what they dress like and listen to that pisses others off, it's the way they act.

They bitch and moan about life a lot, it's almost as they try to be depressed to fit in and make girls like them.

I refer to emo as Emotional People. Lots of people refer to that. IMO I dont think emo people are mad annoying.

Yeahh, the term has changed around during the years.

I got called an emo because I listen to Elliott Smith.

Well, I for one believe that the best music is not to be found in "scenes". I don't know just what emo is, but I intend to compose real emotional music when I get better. It's a shame that romanticism got replaced by atonality and minimalism. If you ask me, that was probably the high point of classical music (even Wagner was better than modern classical).

I don't really know what it is either, but going on a pic someone sent me of what they would class as one (because they were ranting about them and i was like "emo-wtf ") i would say as far as the fashion side goes, it's a mix between the "punk" and "goth" stereotypes? But to be honest i really only thought of it as a kind of music- and dont see how that can be translated into a fashion, but maybe thats just me...

Anyway, like someone said earlier- i also just judge people on individual personality, not because of what they may be labelled (although i may be guilty of prejudice when it comes to chavs *ahem*)

Well, my brother's friend calls me "emo," because I have the line of my hair on the side and because I've worn emo-ish clothes. :think:

But emo is just like a... subdivision of the population, like races and such things. They are discriminated, supported, followed, etc. It's just like a religion, also; there's fanatics (the ones that cut themselves and cry their eyes out for everything :\ ), and the not-so-fanatic sort of emo kids.

But I must say, they are stereotyped a terrible lot, kinda like black people. x_x

They are generally people that listen to the emo genre of music and put their hair's line on the side and wear rocker-ish clothes. But....

Most people generalize them as a bunch of depressed wanna-be goth losers that cut themselves a lot, and I really think that's not the right way to think of it. I mean, sure, maybe a few emo kids are like that, but I don't think they should generalized that way.

For example, I simply put my hair emo style, and wear emo-ish clothes. I also listen to some emo bands, like My Chemical Romance and Thrice. That already makes me "emo."

Just listen to Cheap Sex - Fuck Emo. I think that song is a horrible stereo-type of the "emo" population. <_<

Just listen to Cheap Sex - Fuck Emo. I think that song is a horrible stereo-type of the "emo" population.

Ooh, I kinda like that song, knew about it for a long time allready...

I don't really care about emo's... It's just not my style, and if they leave me alone, I'll leave them along

http://www.zippyvideos.com/3551143681244776/finished_emo_video/

Heheh.

lmfao

thats so mean...

OMFG! That's great!!

okay.....?? from what i understand...emos are depressed weirdos stuck in puberty or something like that....i dont understand that emo means. are they abit like avril lavigne?

avril's wanna be punk girl.

emo is short for emotional, and they basically are they're own culture, and i respect them, and i do not understand what the whole arguement is. truth is, everyone is probably tiny bit emo themselves.

for emo know how go to
http://content.ytmnd.com/content/1/a/1af5f70e649cd3981857796ab9b74703.mp3
I just noticed someone put up the video...I can't view it that way but I've seen it already..its funny

also go to http://video.google.com and search for "emo" there are tons of funny movies a good one is "How to Be Emo"

oh and my opinion:emo people are okay...I have friends who used to be emo and some that are. the ones that used to be said that it was an extremely strange stage in their life and they're glad to be out of it. and the others are fairly normal. Some people say emo people cry alot. I guess thats true for some of them. and that they makeout with the same sex. that aspect I don't like too much but other than that... they're tolerable to me anyway

and that they makeout with the same sex.

That's like saying all black people are rapists. <_<

I'm emo, and I'm perfectly straight. In fact, I hate homosexuality and am completely against it. And if you give the whole "experimentation" excuse, I'm gonna kick your ass. :angry:

I said some people say that...not that I do...as I said I have nothing against emo people...I'm friends with several

In fact, I hate homosexuality and am completely against it.

i would start a rant against that, but itd be way off topic.

Oh, O.K. Sorry if I'm ill-tempered, Ansem. :sweat:

entirely understandable...I guess it did kinda sound like a was just out right saying that

Homosexuals are not something to cheer for. More for a cry for help most of them. No one is BORN GAY. That's just a fucking way to be "accepted" out of the closet.

God. And I hate why Catholics don't allow Gay people to attend church. Hey, they might not be Gay and go to heaven! Think of that German Fuckers?

Saying your dont like emo people and your okay with it is like saying you dont like black people or gays and you dont care. Its stupid to think that such little diffrences make people dislike each other, and sometimes hate it each other.I don't think saying you don't like emo people and homosexuals are the same thing as saying you don't like black people. People choose to be gay and people choose to be emo and if someone doesn't like the idea of being gay or being emo because of the things associated with it and the things people do and believe when they're gay or emo, then it's okay to not like them. But not liking black people in general is wrong to me because they don't choose to be black.

IIn fact, I hate homosexuality and am completely against it. And if you give the whole "experimentation" excuse, I'm gonna kick your ass. :angry:I'm with you on that. I'm completely against homosexuality. It's not the way it's meant to be. It's not the way humans were created. I believe in everything Zacharia Sitchen writes and studies and homosexuals just shouldn't be homosexual. It's the way the world is today that contributes to a homosexual's views. And the world today is messed up. People need to look back on ancient times and realize what's there that's not here.

oh yeah, and gay people will NEVER find a soul mate of the same sex. That's BS.

Yes it is bullshit. Same with the term Soul Mate. No one will even find that in Physical Earthy Spiritual terms. God would be the only one who's a Soul Mate. Nothing to do with gayness either. He is.

EDIT- You can also edit your post, instead of posting three seprate posts..

Argh, I just saw that message three times. Regardless, I do not believe this is the proper place for such ... venting.

It's very "comforting" to know that both Maestro~ and Keira hate who I am. >>; *is deeply offended*

As for the emo thing, I don't usually mind it, but there's some kids that take it a little too far. I know this one girl at school who constantly talks about how much she "hates" her life and she plans on committing suicide. There is no way that anyone's life can be that terrible at the age of 15; if they really do think those things and go out of their way to bug people about it, then they really need to just die-- call me cold-hearted if you like. If their self-purpose in life is to tell people about their collection of cuts and to contemplate killing themselves, then they just need to shut up and do it already. All of this depression really brings down the happy-go-lucky *cough* mood of High school and abroad. :P

to keira:
I suppose I understand what you're saying. however, you must realize that it isn't ancient times...and although you might not think it...gay people have been around for just about ever, and they are everywhere. So you might as well just get over it

To maestro:
You say gay people aren't born gay...First of all, how can you say this when you aren't gay yourself. and second, if they aren't born gay, do you think they choose to be gay. Choosing to be gay is obviously choosing a life where you are hated for liking the same sex. Would someone choose a life like that you think?

Anyways, we all have our own opinions and I love to see people expressing theirs. However, if you are going to reply to this please do it in the homosexuality thread because the thread that we are in is not about homosexuality

and just in case u r wondering: no I'm not gay myself and even though I'm not against homosexuality, I still am glad that I am not one

Would they choose a life that when they die, they go to hell? Think kof that.

Well, I don't think they mind. They sometimes can be naive enough to think that their lives are Hell. :think:

OFF-TOPIC: The bible contradicts the shit out of itself. It says God ALWAYS forgives, yet people end up in Hell?

God forgives if people ask for forgiveness.

And Maestro, you just reiterated what he said. They don't usually choose to be the way they are, so no, they wouldn't choose to go to hell. But riddle me this. The Bible says that "it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a wealthy man to get in to heaven." This, unlike the vague allusions to homosexuality that people are trying to find, is solid evidence. But does it mean that once you pass a certain ammount of wealth, you can't get into heaven?

Personally, I think that it means that the type of people who were wealthy back then were greedy and not likely people who would go to heaven. Similarily, if the Bible did in fact say that gay people went to hell (which I've only heard it alluded to) then it's most likely a similar case, namely that gay people back then (the people of Sodom) were not likely people to get in to heaven.

Then again, this is only my theory.

i think its so nice the way this thread was started to insult 'EMOS' and now its gone on to insult homosexuals.

i know people are entitled to their opinion, but when they use biblical teachings to back up their hatred do they really think God is happy with the way they are treating other human beings?

I'm not a religious freak or anything but it just really is awful to read some of the bitter posts people have made.

Live and let live is what i say, as does James Bond... or something:(

God forgives if people ask for forgiveness.

And Maestro, you just reiterated what he said. They don't usually choose to be the way they are, so no, they wouldn't choose to go to hell. But riddle me this. The Bible says that "it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a wealthy man to get in to heaven." This, unlike the vague allusions to homosexuality that people are trying to find, is solid evidence. But does it mean that once you pass a certain ammount of wealth, you can't get into heaven?

Personally, I think that it means that the type of people who were wealthy back then were greedy and not likely people who would go to heaven. Similarily, if the Bible did in fact say that gay people went to hell (which I've only heard it alluded to) then it's most likely a similar case, namely that gay people back then (the people of Sodom) were not likely people to get in to heaven.

Then again, this is only my theory.

Yes, their might be a point while they are dying that God might say to them... not exactly, but "Wanna go to heaven? Or not LoL?"

But most gay-like people obviously don't have much of a religion that is agant homosexuality.. some don't even have a religion. They just wander spiritualty and goes whatever they want. Yes, they can still be converted, but that means giving up any part of homosexualty or sin.

And yes, this isn't so much about EMO trend or whatever.

God forgives if people ask for forgiveness.

w00t w00t! So I can kill people and just ask for forgiveness! X=

Anyways, we weren't insulting them, really, we were just stating our opinions of how fucked up we think they are. :)

EDIT: We are so off-topic. XD

w00t w00t! So I can kill people and just ask for forgiveness! X=

Anyways, we weren't insulting them, really, we were just stating our opinions of how fucked up we think they are. :)

EDIT: We are so off-topic. XD

then perhaps you should change your cute little signature into a Swastika to match your points of view, otherwise people will start to think you're Schizophrenic.

oh, and don't use the word 'we' because not everyone is like you and thinks the Earth is flat or that we should bring back slavery.

oh, and don't use the word 'we' because not everyone is like you and thinks the Earth is flat or that we should bring back slavery.

I meant as in Maestro and I. ^_^

I meant as in Maestro and I. ^_^

Don't even kid about that shit. Hitler was one of the Devil's Demons, on Earth physically. He was a man almost put on this Earth by Satan, to try to take over the world, and shun God. Already, since what every thinks now adays, God really isn't the main point of view. Our religion is celebrities. And you ALL KNOW IT. You just have to know who the fuck is doing what. No one cares about the life after you die. Life of peace and Heaven.

I was talking about the homo thing. :think:

guys, this thread is about emo, not hitler, the bible, god, life after death, homosexuality, and whatever the else you guys are talking about.

OK fine, theres nothing wrong with EMOs, but let me tell you what i think about terrorism... just kidding! seriously. i'm kidding:sweat:
...but its bad!

I actually enjoy 'emo' music. its kinda ..addicting

Would anyone say The Bravery are emo because i like them

philosophical brainwave: isn't all music emo, because emo means emotional, and all music is fueled by some kind of emotion?

thats right, read that ^ and become enlightened

well, emo does mean emotional, but the use of the term emotional is directed to all the stereotypes of emo.

so calling all music fuled by emotion emo is right, but also wrong, in that you're saying that that emotional piece of music is hardcore, has guitars, and all that, and it may not. just the term emo music has it's own definiton. and it doesnt mean emotion in music, though a lotta emo music are emotional.

yeah i get what you're saying, i can't really see Batehoven moshing

I actually enjoy 'emo' music. its kinda ..addicting

Yup. :stoned:

Don't even kid about that shit. Hitler was one of the Devil's Demons, on Earth physically. He was a man almost put on this Earth by Satan, to try to take over the world, and shun God. Already, since what every thinks now adays, God really isn't the main point of view. Our religion is celebrities. And you ALL KNOW IT. You just have to know who the fuck is doing what. No one cares about the life after you die. Life of peace and Heaven.

:lol:

I cant help it, but that was funny, seeing how my daily dose of comedy comes from watching those Christian show.

Anyways, no one is either good or evil. Its a nutural state seeing how good and evil comes from a point of veiw and which side your on. From Hitlers side, they are a good and richous, doing gods bidding. From Jews side they are evil and crule.

Now whos to say your arnt one of the Devils Demons on Earth in a physical form Maes?

~

I say it agian, Emo is just a box. A crule box. People get put into boxes way too much in todays world. We are all human, get used to it.

:lol:

I cant help it, but that was funny, seeing how my daily dose of comedy comes from watching those Christian show.

Anyways, no one is either good or evil. Its a nutural state seeing how good and evil comes from a point of veiw and which side your on. From Hitlers side, they are a good and richous, doing gods bidding. From Jews side they are evil and crule.

Now whos to say your arnt one of the Devils Demons on Earth in a physical form Maes?

~

I say it agian, Emo is just a box. A crule box. People get put into boxes way too much in todays world. We are all human, get used to it.

i see what you mean by saying good and evil is relative, but i can't imagine the scum that were forcing people to run naked into their own graves and then shooting them in the back could have thought they were doing something good.
ad-lib, did you know that if you take o from good you get God and if you add D to evil you get devil? neat huh?

i see what you mean by saying good and evil is relative, but i can't imagine the scum that were forcing people to run naked into their own graves and then shooting them in the back could have thought they were doing something good.

They were crazy enough to think that way, me thinks. :think:

Hitler was enough of a retard. -_-

EDIT: We're getting off-topic again. :heh:

Would anyone say The Bravery are emo because i like them
Emo music is usually known for being quite infectious, though whiny. So I'd say no, I'd probably categorize them with the Killers.

Emo music is usually known for being quite infectious, though whiny. So I'd say no, I'd probably categorize them with the Killers.

awww don't, i hate the killers, they look so weird

My opinion on the emo people is the same as for the homosexuals and other people stereotyped; if it's not hurting anyone, then it's fine. You religious freaks really need to fuck off. Homosexuals don't tell you how to pray or live your life and who you may have sex with, emo people don't tell you how to act or dress, so who the fuck gave you such rights to criticize and lecture the emo people and gays? You people sicken me. You act all religious and good by publicly showing your discrimination against such people pointing out what is your own interpretation of their sin, when you are so full of sin yourself.

Being gay isn't an action, it's a feeling. It's a preference. It's preferring sex with men over a woman. You don't have a choice in this matter; it's just who you are. Just like you can't change the fact that you may prefir chocolate ice cream over vanilla. Or Mountain Dew over Pepsi. You may indeed pick vanilla over chocolate, or Pepsi over Mountain Dew, but that still doesn't change the fact that you prefir Mountaind Dew over Pepsi, or chocolate ice cream over vanilla. Just like you can still sleep with a woman, but be gay. There is no choice in it. If you want to blame anyone for this, blame your own God for making the person that way to be born with.

You can never change how you feel, just how you act. You may change the situtation so that you are inclined to feel better, but you can't at your own leisure change your feelings. God said man should not sleep with another man, not man shouldn't want to sleep with another man. I don't recall anywhere in the bible where it encouraged you to discriminate against such people. I do recall, though, that it said it was wrong and that these people were going to hell. Let your own God be the judge of people, exspecially when you are no more or less sinful than the homosexuals.

I consider an emo kid/person as someone who outwardly expresses their negative emotions. It can be by cutting, dark clothes, suicidal notes, complaining, being quiet, whatever it is. Being gay has nothing at all to do with being emo. At all. Not all emo's are begging for attention, it's just that their appearance makes it seem this way. I don't see why people treat emo people (as well as gays) for just living the way they want to live. You live the way you want to live, so stop trying to attack the way other people live.

great post, puts things clear

Well said, Nightmare.

My opinion on the emo people is the same as for the homosexuals and other people stereotyped; if it's not hurting anyone, then it's fine. You religious freaks really need to fuck off. Homosexuals don't tell you how to pray or live your life and who you may have sex with, emo people don't tell you how to act or dress, so who the fuck gave you such rights to criticize and lecture the emo people and gays? You people sicken me. You act all religious and good by publicly showing your discrimination against such people pointing out what is your own interpretation of their sin, when you are so full of sin yourself.
It's not discrimination, it's preaching. These "religious freaks" are doing exactly what Gid wants them to. You call them freaks because they use religion in every issue of their life. Well religion isn't something you believe in when you want to; when you get around to it; once a week when you go to church; or when you need God's help. It's a lifestyle. Jesus told us to preach the Gospel, and thus save their sould from spending eternity in Hell. What I don't understand is why when people try to tell others they are wrong they get defensive and say "fuck you, I have Free Will" or "Who are you to tell me what to do?" Well, "who they are" are the people who live life the way God wants us to and they're trying to save your asses from rotting in Hell for all of eternity. Why humans always back down and get pissed off when people try to help is beyond me

Being gay isn't an action, it's a feeling. It's a preference. It's preferring sex with men over a woman. You don't have a choice in this matter; it's just who you are. Just like you can't change the fact that you may prefir chocolate ice cream over vanilla. Or Mountain Dew over Pepsi. You may indeed pick vanilla over chocolate, or Pepsi over Mountain Dew, but that still doesn't change the fact that you prefir Mountaind Dew over Pepsi, or chocolate ice cream over vanilla. Just like you can still sleep with a woman, but be gay. There is no choice in it. If you want to blame anyone for this, blame your own God for making the person that way to be born with.
No it is a choice that the person makes on his or her own. Scientific study shows that people who prefer a taste over another can, if they have enough of the other, 'change their mind' and prefer the other thing. That disproves your little theory.

You can never change how you feel, just how you act. You may change the situtation so that you are inclined to feel better, but you can't at your own leisure change your feelings. God said man should not sleep with another man, not man shouldn't want to sleep with another man. I don't recall anywhere in the bible where it encouraged you to discriminate against such people. I do recall, though, that it said it was wrong and that these people were going to hell. Let your own God be the judge of people, exspecially when you are no more or less sinful than the homosexuals.
Uh, that's retarded. Of course you can change how you feel, and that is what makes people change the way they act. Right, God never said man couldn't want to be homosexual (at least I don't think), but that doesn't mean it should be done. Peopple who want to kill someone else for no reason shouldn't, that's obvious. You're absolutely right, that can [i[want[/i] to be homosexual but they should not actually be homosexual.

I consider an emo kid/person as someone who outwardly expresses their negative emotions. It can be by cutting, dark clothes, suicidal notes, complaining, being quiet, whatever it is. Being gay has nothing at all to do with being emo. At all. Not all emo's are begging for attention, it's just that their appearance makes it seem this way. I don't see why people treat emo people (as well as gays) for just living the way they want to live. You live the way you want to live, so stop trying to attack the way other people live.
We aren't attacking, we're telling them to correct themselves before it's too late.

These "religious freaks" are doing exactly what Gid wants them to.

Gid.... XD; EVERYONE BOW DOWN TO YOUR NEW DEITY!


You call them freaks because they use religion in every issue of their life. Well religion isn't something you believe in when you want to; when you get around to it; once a week when you go to church; or when you need God's help. It's a lifestyle. Jesus told us to preach the Gospel, and thus save their sould from spending eternity in Hell. What I don't understand is why when people try to tell others they are wrong they get defensive and say "fuck you, I have Free Will" or "Who are you to tell me what to do?" Well, "who they are" are the people who live life the way God wants us to and they're trying to save your asses from rotting in Hell for all of eternity. Why humans always back down and get pissed off when people try to help is beyond me.

It is true that "Jesus" or whatever you want to call that creature tells his minions to preach his words, but he had never asked his followers to shove his words or their beliefs down other peoples' esophagi. Doing that sabotages the pseudo-happiness that the world already has. If everyone were to believe the exact same things, worship the same god(s), and preach the same words, we would basically recreate this o-so-terrible theoretical place that most people refer to as "Hell."


No it is a choice that the person makes on his or her own. Scientific study shows that people who prefer a taste over another can, if they have enough of the other, 'change their mind' and prefer the other thing. That disproves your little theory.

This may be true to a certain degree, but there is far more evidence that shows the opposite. The cause of homosexuality has yet to be discovered, but recent studies show much more often that people can not simply sway their sexuality at a whim. Such a thought is completely preposterous. Do you think I want to be bisexual, thus face all of the oppression and family disgrace that comes with it? No; I've tried many different things-- and so has my family-- that might change it, but all proved to be wasted efforts.


Uh, that's retarded. Of course you can change how you feel, and that is what makes people change the way they act. Right, God never said man couldn't want to be homosexual (at least I don't think), but that doesn't mean it should be done. Peopple who want to kill someone else for no reason shouldn't, that's obvious. You're absolutely right, that can [i[want[/i] to be homosexual but they should not actually be homosexual.

Though I personally disagree with Nightmare on his thought that homosexuality is a feeling, you've managed to bring up terrible examples that aid your stand in no way. It may be true that no one should want to kill someone to appease their own sick desires (because doing so would obviously harm someone), but homosexuality is completely harmless unless someone decides to engage in unprotected sexual acts with another, thus drastically increasing their chances of contracting HIV or AIDS. Even then, it only harms those who are included in the sexual act, not anyone else; it's not like AIDS is contagious.


We aren't attacking, we're telling them to correct themselves before it's too late.

Though your claim makes sense, it is not your place to try and change someone.

Gid.... XD; EVERYONE BOW DOWN TO YOUR NEW DEITY!

It is true that "Jesus" or whatever you want to call that creature tells his minions to preach his words, but he had never asked his followers to shove his words or beliefs down other peoples' esophagi. Doing that sabotages the pseudo-happiness that the world already has. If everyone were to believe the exact same things, worship the same god(s), and preach the same words, we would basically recreate this o-so-terrible theoretical place that most people refer to as "Hell."

This may be true to a certain degree, but there is far more evidence that shows the opposite. The cause of homosexuality has yet to be discovered, but recent studies show much more often that people can not simply sway their sexuality at a whim. Such a thought completely preposterous. Do you think I want to be bisexual, thus face all of the oppression and family disgrace that comes with it? No; I've tried many different things-- and so has my family-- that might change it, but all proved to be wasted efforts.

Though I personally disagree with Nightmare on his thought that homosexuality is a feeling, you've manage to bring up terrible examples that aid your stand in no way. It may be true that no one should want to kill someone to appease their own sick desires (because doing so would obviously harm someone), but homosexuality is completely harmless unless someone decides to engage in unprotected sexual acts with another, thus drastically increasing their chances of contracting HIV or AIDS. Even then, it only harms those who are included in the sexual act, not anyone else; it's not like AIDS is contagious.

Though your claim makes sense, it is not your place to try and change someone.
lol typos. . .

Actually if everyone were to believe in the same thing, there would be no violence, no disputes, no crimes, no evil. "Utopia" if you will

Well then that means that you do want to be bisexual, but you do not want to face the jeers and stuff of society for it.

Terrible example? I didn't bring up that example because it is one that would harm someone, I brought it up because it was the first one that came into my head. Just like how people want to be millionaires, they can want to be rich, but God said we're supposed to be humble, you can want to worship Satan, but God is the only one we're supposed to worship. I just mean that what you want and what you should do aren't the same thing, and that just because you want something doesn't mean you should do it.

Like I said, "telling". If people try to force them (which I dont see how is possible [but then again it's late and I'm tired lol]) to change then they are following the wrong path. We called Jesus "Teacher" because he taught us, not forced us, we should do the same thing. It just sucks that people get so damn defensive when they're told they are wrong.

http://www.filecabi.net/video/emo.html

^pretty much all the stereotypes of emo and how to be a 'true' emo, as 90% of ppl who claim to be emo really arent.

also features 'lover i dont have to love' by bright eyes at the end.
love that song <3

Wow... That was actually pretty entertaining. XD;

I watched that for 20 freaking minutes!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol Meh....I like the song at the end! Awe Man! That is mean.....

lmfao

tupac was emo :mellow:
XD

Every generation is going to have that one single annoying group...

What do you think of it? Does it annoy you? Any of your friends gone "emo"?

We sure as hell didn't have "emos" back a few years ago.

Its a music style for people that want to bitch about everything...jk actually your right a lot of my friends have started buying girls jeans, tight shirts....and I'm like...are you serious...but I mean...they got their thing I got mine

Even more annoying than emos are people who judge everything emotional to be emo, and when a dribble of sensitivity comes out they disregard it as soppy emo crap.

They're the ones who say "suck shit" to the emos who might take the self mutilation thing a bit too harsh and end up in hospital.

I'm guessing the same kind of people who made that film.

According to the video, which according to MuffinMaster is accurate, I'm emo. Don't mind. I'm myself and the end. I don't care if people are emo or not. It depends on the person as an individual to me.

According to the video, which according to MuffinMaster is accurate, I'm emo. Don't mind. I'm myself and the end. I don't care if people are emo or not. It depends on the person as an individual to me.

See, at least you're not stupid or ignorant. :heh:

I had hoped you knew that by now. Ms Duque defenitely knows it. I bash close minded people a lot...Especially on the homework...But I'm getting off topic.

...According to that video, I'm emo too! o.o

The only thing I don't have is the black hair because my mom doesn't allow me to dye my hair.. I had no idea. This is just the way I am. I didn't know it was a fad of some sort.

That video was pretty funny, except the ending gave me a stomach-ache. :bleh:

I was screaming to poor Billy: "DON'T DO IT!" :cry:

Heh... I was screaming the exact opposite to Billy. XD; That would've been SOOOO beautiful if they caught a moment like that on film. 8D

The emo kids at my school aren't those self inflicting pain kids, they're just emotional...They seem alright to me, although the look of sadness is always on their face, but yeah, most of them are my friends. ^_^

Wow! That was head-on. Everything they said was preety true about them. Now I definetly know, I'M NOT EMO!

It's amazing how exact they were. On style, music, sexual boundaries, friends, poetry/music, and the whole emotional things they have.

I know, my brother is EMO, but is married... to a girl of course.

Anyway, good find !

XD

wait...can married ppl be emo?

I'm quite sure they can. Not all emotions are bad they include happy.

Emo people just like expressing their emotions through the arts and I see nothing wrong with that. Less hatred. Less yelling. Less fighting.

Like poetry?

:lol:

yeah

Where I'm from, emo just implies that you listen to obscure bands, with or without the girl pants, eyeliner, and funny hair. ^_^

Or at least, it did until people realized that scowling and listening to music rife with abstract phrases makes you somehow more attractive to other unhappy, self-absorbed kids. It has almost entirely an attention-seeking device. For example, there's this one boy at school who walks around looking all depressed, never smiling, and wearing the collar of his bright purple polo shirts turned up. I asked him once why he did that, and he had to fight to keep a straight face. I have since learned from observation that he does this for the attention he recieves from the girls at school who are only too content to fawn all over him wondering what has made him so desperately in need of cheering up.

*rolls eyes*

There's also emo as a form of self-expression. Statistically speaking, people who hate their lives and can't get a date are more likely to listen to music about being hating their lives and not getting dates. My sister insists on blasting such music when she is angry at my mum - mostly because it annoys the crap out of my mum. It seems to me that the music perpetuates the stereotype. Angsty people writing angsty music for an angsty audience.... and so on.

Yes, I know, not all people who listen to emo are angsty, or can even be classified as the typical emo kid. Many of my happiest friends enjoy blasting Bright Eyes and Death Cab enthusiastically from their stereos. I am also aware that not all people enjoying emo music are teenagers. You don't have to tell me that labels don't come one-size-fits all.

On a different note, the issues of depression and sexuality commonly mixed up with the emo scene are facilitated by hordes of confused kids aged twelve to nineteen all looking for their own little niches whilst combatting hormones and adolescence. Many of these kids are angry, looking for ways to lash out and be different. Some of these people are genuinely different, and many more of them just want to be, at least until they hit about twenty-five and their hormones settle down. "Emo" is a convenient way to accomplish this, the weirder the better. As our society eschews devience, sexuality tends to be highlighted, as does self-mutilation and the other glorified kinds of dark deeds.

Did that make sense? What I'm trying to say is that Emo started out as an adjective and has been changed into an entire subculture by its audience, stereotypes and controversy included.

Thanks for letting me babble!

-kate

XD I used to whewe mu collar turned up. Though, I didn't do it for attention. I did it because it represented something: an emotion. An since I'm kinda over that specific emotion I don't put it up any more. It's annoying to be mocked for that, though...<_< XD

XD I used to whewe mu collar turned up. Though, I didn't do it for attention. I did it because it represented something: an emotion. An since I'm kinda over that specific emotion I don't put it up any more. It's annoying to be mocked for that, though...<_< XD

They used to think it was because you were a vampire. Strange. I don't see the connection there. XD

i wear my tennis uniform collar up/./....

but thats just cuz we're so much sexier than the opposing team =]

They used to think it was because you were a vampire. Strange. I don't see the connection there. XD

EMO:
http://www.fantasycostumes.com/Merchant2/images/Victorian-Vampire---Kid's-8723-FW.jpg

see the connection now? lol

That's so mean! XD

I thought you were a vampire lover...BTW, we are way off topic now.

would you consider motion city soundtrack emo?

Definitely.

I feel old... emo kids didn't exist in my day... all those many years ago they were just "goth". Though, I daresay, I think emo kids are generally more annoying than goth kids. Most goth kids at least tried to make it look like they thought everything in the world sucked, emo kids just want an excuse to whine over how horrible it is living with their middle class families in suburbia. :P Oh yes, life is a pit of despair... sheesh, and most don't even have jobs yet.

emo kids just want an excuse to whine over how horrible it is living with their middle class families in suburbia.

Don't be so ignorant. That's not what emo is. <_<

i think people are missing out on some aspects of emo.

emo = short for emotional.

ya know what emotions there are besides sad, depressed, and suicidal?

happiness. joy. love.

so yeah. expand your eyes a bit.

i think people are missing out on some aspects of emo.

emo = short for emotional.

ya know what emotions there are besides sad, depressed, and suicidal?

happiness. joy. love.

so yeah. expand your eyes a bit.
O_O YOu got aname change! ANy way.. GO Muffin Ma-- Ashtr! THANK YOU!

I don't "act" depressed.:\
And certainly not for attention! I hate being around people.

I don't "act" depressed.:\
And certainly not for attention! I hate being around people.

Even if you did, that doesn't make you "emo." Why? 'Cause your acting, so it's not genuine emotion. Ha! I'm smart. :shifty:

Emo is short for emotional.

But the term has changed to suit those who do fake being depressed to get girls and write terrible poetry about how "bad" their life is.

I have an emo colleague at work. He likes to discuss the wicked hot sex he has with his girlfriend in a ladies room cubicle at school, and how he listened to System of a Down before they got big and hates fans who recently got into them.

He was kicked out of home by his parents and now resides with his grandma. He also brags about how he gets $400 a fortnight a week from Centrelink since he got kicked out of home. And how his grandma is stupid because she caught him stoned twice but did nothing about it.

"My mum's a fucking bitch because she won't let me back in the house. Like, all my records and my XBOX is in there."

Fucking asshole, if you ask me.

^but that contradicts itself cuz doesn't steorotype say emo's only play old school games?
Xbox is not old school.

besides, the whole always depressed, whining about life thing is just a jaded view of emo.

Sure, I think some of my emo friends make to big deal of something, but that doesn't mean they don't feel any other emotions besides depressed.
The term may have changed for you and your area, and mabe even other areas, but it has not where I live. Here, emo means exactly what it sounds. Nothing more.

:lol:

Well the whole video was just used by some emo-haters to make fun of emos. Doesn't have to be 100% accurate.

He's a self confessed emo as well

I actually enjoy 'emo' music. its kinda ..addicting

i like emo music too :D lotsa emotion~

...wow this thread is still goin?

F*ck I'm supposed to be lurking!!

omg.

Wolcott High School. has an awesome emo band.
Lovers and Thieves.
They totally kicked ass last night. better than all the pointless screamo bands.

In what way?

unlike the screamo bands, they actually had lyrics.

good lyrics

good instrumentals.

singer had a good range.

Emo is short for emotional.

But the term has changed to suit those who do fake being depressed to get girls and write terrible poetry about how "bad" their life is.

I have an emo colleague at work. He likes to discuss the wicked hot sex he has with his girlfriend in a ladies room cubicle at school, and how he listened to System of a Down before they got big and hates fans who recently got into them.

He was kicked out of home by his parents and now resides with his grandma. He also brags about how he gets $400 a fortnight a week from Centrelink since he got kicked out of home. And how his grandma is stupid because she caught him stoned twice but did nothing about it.

"My mum's a fucking bitch because she won't let me back in the house. Like, all my records and my XBOX is in there."

Fucking asshole, if you ask me.

Ha... he sounds like one.

But in that case, first of all, we can't even be sure he's "emo." Just because someones bitches and wines about life doesn't mean they're emo. It simply means they bitch and wine about life. It's not necessarily(sp?) emo.

Sigh.

Well he is a self-confessed emo, and he loves to talk about how good his taste in music is. And he has dyed black hair.

Sigh.

Well he is a self-confessed emo, and he loves to talk about how good his taste in music is. And he has dyed black hair.

None of that says he's emo except for the self-confession thing. First of all, I don't love to talk about my "good taste in music," and I don't have dyed black hair. But guess what?

I'M EMO! :sweat:

None of that says he's emo except for the self-confession thing. First of all, I don't love to talk about my "good taste in music," and I don't have dyed black hair. But guess what?

I'M EMO! :sweat:
I agree. Also...There is the possibility that he is just wanna be emo...

Hehe, all my brother's friends call my brother post-emo.

Right, I give up.

i think "emo" is just another word people have grabbed hold of and turned into a derogatory term for people who are different. ages ago it was "greebo", then "skater", then "goth" and now "emo"... it's happened with all of these (i think), and it's wrong really.

another thing that i'd like to point out is that from what ive read in people's replies; there's a HUGE misconception about self-injury- it is not what i think someone earler referred to as a "glorified dark deed" or whatever

*SIGH* lets clear a few things up here........
there is nothing wrong with emo its a form of expression, like when "ganstaz" "rap" about killing the white man. not all emo kids cut themselves, i like to write sad stories and draw disturbingly violent pictures on my emo days. not all emo kids dye their hair and wear all black, that would be like saying that all preps wear ironed white shirts and kahkis. wannabe emos have screwed over the true emos.......not all emo kids do it for attention, the wannabes do....



i love system of a down, they arent emo they're Nu metal, and whoever dises them will find they're favorite band shirt on fire...............sorry had to say it......

back on topic........if you dis emo, goth, or skater kids you are predjudiced and are probably a prep who doesnt listenen to music (not being stereotypical, i like some preps, the ones who enjoy music)

*applauds* :lol:

I'm a diplomat among the tribes in my school. I flow into each different clique like water. Emo kids are just kids. They whine a bit more and wear the occasional pair of girl pants. Besides that, nothing is different. I myself am a confused indivisual who will wear suits on wednesdays followed by my Jinx Tea-bag shirt the next. I have to say this.

The emo is an elusive creature who attempts to stay alone but in a weird twist of events actually gains friends. In the end its all a matter of preferences, Whether your emo, goth, or jock (I could mention more but my head hurts XD) we all bitch and moan. Some more than others.

(I have no idea why I posted in here or what I was aiming for. So don't mind me :heh: )

tribes i feel is the right word to describe the way kids are seperating themselves into these groups. With thier own tribal markings.

I dont have a problem with any of these groups except for a few things...
Defining groups such as greenday as punk. No way can they come under a classification reserved for anti-extablishment music after an album like american idiot. Besides that i have no problem with people dividing themselves.

People likle to be part of a group, each thinks the other is the out group. only thing that seems now to differ in these groups is music and clothing.

*agrees*

live and let live is what i always say... yes it can never work unless the whole world thinks that way too.. but hey

i wounder weather those of us who dont fit into these groups are in infact a 'group'

yeah... by not conforming to a group, you are conforming with others who dont conform to a group and thus form your own group.

absolute non-conformity is impossible

You guys are getting off topic.

If you want you can ignore the rest. Just to get stuff out of my system. Seriously...Don't waist your time reading this! I warned you!

The emo is an elusive creature who attempts to stay alone but in a weird twist of events actually gains friends.
That would be a good description of me. I prefer to be alone while I prefer to be with my friends at the same time. Does that make any sense? I doubt it, but it does.

I'll explain a bit: I am with my frieds when ever can but I neve seem to fit in or I am in areally depressive state. I moan and bitch and complain and cry and bottle up some emotions about life. But I never bother anyone with this. I keep it to myself unwanting to bother anyone.

I seem to never fit in anywhere. I'm the oddball of the oddballs!Amongst "regular" (in intellegence) kids I seem to be "smart" but amongst the "smart" kids I am [self-claimed] the "stupid" one. I seem to be so alone...I'm sure I'm not tthe only one.

(Excusemy little rambling but I just want to say this and thanks for reading all of this post so far.)

When I am with my friends I seem to sometimes suddenly...I know became someone...else. Some one who is more me. I shut up and become serious. My friends will talk to me but I will ignore them or simply answer them with a nod or shake of my head. Maybe, even, I will just push them a way and tell them to shut up and leave me alone. As I talk about this I switch into this mood in fact but a mild case of it.

In this mood I think to myself and I get really Emo in this sate. It's...a weird state. Weird thing about it is that I like this state. It's definately not for the attention because I don't recieve any anyway. MY friends have decided to let me be in these states whihc I think I prefer. I like leaving in the middle of hanging out with my friends at school. I don't know why. Probably because lonely walks help me....dispite the fact I hate feeling alone! I confuse myself! >.<Aghh! And then there is my "love life" but that is the thing that really causes me stress and depression. Meh :\ My life sucks. If you read this you just wasted a lot of time...

back on topic........if you dis emo, goth, or skater kids you are predjudiced and are probably a prep who doesnt listenen to music (not being stereotypical, i like some preps, the ones who enjoy music)

LMFAO, I dis emo, and skater kids all the time(I don't care about Goths. They are just too much) and I aint a prep. And believe me, if I aint listening to music then that must mean that either mp3's are banned from the area, or I'm sleeping. I listen from Emo to Screamo. I aint nothin near a prep. But to say your not being stereotypical is just utter bullshit, you yourself are prejudiced.

emotional hardcore

What are you talking about Rovski?

Wow, septermagick! I get the same thing! Everything you said is just like me!

Wow, septermagick! I get the same thing! Everything you said is just like me!

ditto... guess we're not as alone as we think then...

EMO people are harmless right?
They wanna kill themselves but not others right??

Killing yourself can be harmful to others (peopl that love you). Not all emos want to kill themselves and not only emos want to kill them selves. I admit I've considered it but never would actually do it.

@ Thorn and Silver Wyvern: I can't believe you guess actually read that. O.O And you understud it. I guess that is nice. To not feel so alone.

I meant would they kill other people out of rage and loneliness?
and dont consider killing yourself! Think happy thoughts~ >_<

I don't think so...That would mean they need some therapy. Seriously. PLus, anyone could do that and emo's aren't only negative emotions. It more like they take emotions a little more seriously. Better said, emos are sensetive. I've considered suicide a few times and I've aalready said I will never do it. Plus, I'm not the optimistic type...

Think happy thoughts

Ha! See, that's part of an emo song, called Headfirst For Halos. Boo ya! XD

Concerning the whole killing others because you're upset.. it's definetely possible. I read about a father ages ago who killed his whole family in a tearful rage when he found out his wife had cheated on him- then killed himself.

I suppose its down to individual difference... whether anger + hurt would be enough to drive you to kill someone. I mean, I've been really hurt recently, and have been really down because of it, but i'd never go and kill the person to blame because it's not in my nature.

Just because someone is depressed, doesn't mean that they are emo...

Not all emos want to kill themselves and not only emos want to kill them selves
That was stated, Asuka...

EDIT: Sorry Asuka. Quote edited.

Just because someone is depressed, doesn't mean that they are emo...

I didn't imply that at all... I was just answering Eternal's question about would anyone kill other people out of rage and loneliness.

That was stated, Asuka...

The quote you gave me had nothing to do with what I said...

one of my friends who i thought least likely to go emo has just done that, the black hair, the accesories, the attitude...

What do you think of it? Does it annoy you? Any of your friends gone "emo"?

We sure as hell didn't have "emos" back a few years ago.


Emos are retarded. I can't stand them. All they do is bitch and whine about life and there problems instead of dealing it with themselves like everyone else. One I also find dumb about them is how they always say that they don't need anyone and want to be alone and yet you see them make cliches and groups and such, very odd for people who want to be alone don't you think so? I think most people become Emo just because it's very popular in the person's age and place they usually go to/ hang out in (possibly a school, bar, etc)

Emos are retarded. I can't stand them. All they do is bitch and whine about life and there problems instead of dealing it with themselves like everyone else.

Bit of a "tarring-everyone-with-same-brush" comment isn't it? Bitching and whining about life is a way of dealing with it- it is anger relief and saves you from becoming a bitter twisted individual in later life.


One I also find dumb about them is how they always say that they don't need anyone and want to be alone and yet you see them make cliches and groups and such, very odd for people who want to be alone don't you think so?

agreed- there's nothing wrong with wanting to be alone.. i actually quite like it.. but having lots of friends and whining you want to be alone is pretty silly; especially as there are clearly people who like you around you.


I think most people become Emo just because it's very popular in the person's age and place they usually go to/ hang out in (possibly a school, bar, etc)

also probably true.. but what we must bear in mind is that "emo", like any other label is determined by what other people think. you can't be an emo if people keep calling you a chav, for example; because that's what other people see you as.

i dont think labels are something we can give ourselves- we have to be given them by others.. and its up to us if we choose to accept them.

Emos are retarded. I can't stand them. All they do is bitch and whine about life and there problems instead of dealing it with themselves like everyone else. One I also find dumb about them is how they always say that they don't need anyone and want to be alone and yet you see them make cliches and groups and such, very odd for people who want to be alone don't you think so? I think most people become Emo just because it's very popular in the person's age and place they usually go to/ hang out in (possibly a school, bar, etc)
Emos dont all whine about life. I do once in a way and thorn is right. It is possibly anger management. I do but in my head and it is a bit relaxing. I do like being alone but I wouldn't survive with out friends or love. Part of being emo is being EMOTIONAL!!!!!!!!!!! Most people but not all. I hate wannabe anythings because they screw over the true whatever-the-lables.

Yup, yup, yup. ;)

Lately people in my school have been using the word emo as an insult. It's frustrating.

Thank god most people in my school don't even know what emo is yet, except for that girl who called Septy "that emo girl [Marlon] hangs out with". :huh:

At least she didn't say it insultingly. :P

Who's that? That's true. Aren't we like...the ONLY emo's in our school. Maybe a couple others. I don't know. *shrug*

Actually, I think it's just us. XD

would you consider me semi - emo if I flip my hair, wear tight jeans, tight shirts, and listen to emo music?

I still refuse to write in a diary o__O

I would say you look the part but as my friend said: "Looks aren't everything."

I prefer Romantic era classical for emotional music myself.

would you consider me semi - emo if I flip my hair, wear tight jeans, tight shirts, and listen to emo music?

I still refuse to write in a diary o__O

Well, if you're not an emotionless and quite empty shell, then yes, I believe you are emo. ;)

i am emotionless :mellow:

I prefer Romantic era classical for emotional music myself.

Agreed. But in order to be relevant, let me post this website:

Go go emo rangers. (http://www.emorangers.com)

hahaha! how funny

i am emotionless :mellow:

Then you're not emo, you disgrace of a human! J/K XD

EDIT: The "you're not emo" part is not just kidding, to get things straight.

Then you're not emo, you disgrace of a human! J/K XD

EDIT: The "you're not emo" part is not just kidding, to get things straight.

Just thought i'd pick up on this- i know it was just a joke, but i think it still have a point to be made about it; I think the thing that people find the most irritating about groups and trends is how they treat the "out" group.

For example- the whole "you're not emo you disgrace of a human".. or "you're not a trendy so fuck off" and (one i have happen to me a lot).. "you are male but not wearing baseball caps and tracksuits, and you don't blow all your money on drugs and you haven't had sex with more girls than you've had hot dinners, therefore you are a FAG!"

..i realise this is a highly biased and slightly off-topic point of view, but i think chavs are the most hostile towards non-chavs... or maybe thats just me

Just thought i'd pick up on this- i know it was just a joke, but i think it still have a point to be made about it; I think the thing that people find the most irritating about groups and trends is how they treat the "out" group.

For example- the whole "you're not emo you disgrace of a human".. or "you're not a trendy so fuck off" and (one i have happen to me a lot).. "you are male but not wearing baseball caps and tracksuits, and you don't blow all your money on drugs and you haven't had sex with more girls than you've had hot dinners, therefore you are a FAG!"

..i realise this is a highly biased and slightly off-topic point of view, but i think chavs are the most hostile towards non-chavs... or maybe thats just me

i really hate chavs, like, seriously hate them. they are one of the few minorities i really cannot stand.

are they even a minority any more? they've swarmed everywhere, like cockroaches.
:topic: yes i know...

i really hate chavs, like, seriously hate them. they are one of the few minorities i really cannot stand.

are they even a minority any more? they've swarmed everywhere, like cockroaches.
:topic: yes i know...

again off topic, but i agree too.. maybe we should start a chav thread (im sure there isnt one already is there?)

I think youve got to what anoys me the most about the Emo group. They are just as bad as any other group in the way they treat people. the rejection from a group is allways painfull.

It feels like they are stealing music aswell. I mean in the way they classify a piece as 'emo' i cant listern to 'fall out boy' with being called an 'emo'

I like "emo" people......they smell good:lol:


heehee ph34r my randomness!!!

(but seriously I've yet to find a stinky emo dude)

I think youve got to what anoys me the most about the Emo group. They are just as bad as any other group in the way they treat people. the rejection from a group is allways painfull.

It feels like they are stealing music aswell. I mean in the way they classify a piece as 'emo' i cant listern to 'fall out boy' with being called an 'emo'
Umm...Not all emos are like that. I am Emo and I have a bunch of non-emo friends.

I like "emo" people......they smell good:lol:


heehee ph34r my randomness!!!

(but seriously I've yet to find a stinky emo dude)

You scare me... XD

@septermagick: Exactly, we got Miss Vampiric with the bunny teeth, for example. We don't treat others bad, we simply do not see people who are not emo as emo, because.. well, they're not emo! XD

then you are more reasonable than the ones ive met. Here there is quite a big dislike between the groups and there arepeople stuck in the middle who either make friends with the lot or are called wierd for not conforming

That really stinks, PFT Shadow.

I can't, CAN'T stand emo/screamo music.

Whiny shite.

You scare me... XD
Ya I scare myself sometimes too :\
but more than anything...the future freaks me out!! LOL (yes 'tis a song)

Okay, sooo...I figured out....I have a lot of these so called "emo" friends...I hope it doesn't rub off on me.....I just don't think I have it in me to.....*cringes*....cut....gah! blood! *dies*

LOL im jus bored looking through this post quite funni xD

Ya I scare myself sometimes too :\
but more than anything...the future freaks me out!! LOL (yes 'tis a song)

Okay, sooo...I figured out....I have a lot of these so called "emo" friends...I hope it doesn't rub off on me.....I just don't think I have it in me to.....*cringes*....cut....gah! blood! *dies*
I like that song. Um...not all emos cut. :mellow: W/E Since you died you don't have to cut. XD J/K

hooray! I never thought that being dead would have such advantages! I get free stuff AND I don't have to cut myself! if I knew this I would have died much sooner!

emo people have smelly hair :mellow:

emo people have smelly hair :mellow:

LMAO! No we don't! XD

At least not all of us...

everybody's hair smells funny. xD Hmm....so are there sub catagories to being emo?

LOL im jus bored looking through this post quite funni xD

Dude, dont spam.


emo people have smelly hair

Emo people do not have smelly hair. I dont know where you got that kind of information, but there's nothing scientific that proves that emo has smelly hair.

As for the sub categories, I dont think such thing exists unless you really try and research emo people (Which I dont see the reason why you would want to do it.)

Smelly hair = hair products, Hiei? XD

mostly everyone uses hair products. what makes that distinguishable between emos and non-emos?

yay lectures on the emo society!
(seems i lecture alot, i must change this)

ahem, as your instructer in emo culture, ill ask that you take notes.

not all emos are the same: your emo if your emotional, hence "emo", you dont have to wear all black, or have your hair styled differently, nore to you have to wear tight clothes

not all emos cut, i am a perfect example, im emo and i dont cut, cuz i could never injure myself on purpose

not all emos hate non-emos, again i am a prime example, i hate people based on their personality

and not all emos are emo all the time, i have what me and my friends call emo days

so this concludes todays lesson, your homework is to not treat emos like aliens, dismissed

yay lectures on the emo society!
(seems i lecture alot, i must change this)

ahem, as your instructer in emo culture, ill ask that you take notes.

not all emos are the same: your emo if your emotional, hence "emo", you dont have to wear all black, or have your hair styled differently, nore to you have to wear tight clothes

not all emos cut, i am a perfect example, im emo and i dont cut, cuz i could never injure myself on purpose

not all emos hate non-emos, again i am a prime example, i hate people based on their personality

and not all emos are emo all the time, i have what me and my friends call emo days

so this concludes todays lesson, your homework is to not treat emos like aliens, dismissed

No

yay lectures on the emo society!
(seems i lecture alot, i must change this)

ahem, as your instructer in emo culture, ill ask that you take notes.

not all emos are the same: your emo if your emotional, hence "emo", you dont have to wear all black, or have your hair styled differently, nore to you have to wear tight clothes

not all emos cut, i am a perfect example, im emo and i dont cut, cuz i could never injure myself on purpose

not all emos hate non-emos, again i am a prime example, i hate people based on their personality

and not all emos are emo all the time, i have what me and my friends call emo days

so this concludes todays lesson, your homework is to not treat emos like aliens, dismissed

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Some of them annoy me. But most of them are really nice.
And I enjoy some emo music. =D

well it all depends...i don't care if people are emo but it's when they start going on about how their life sucks when it really doesn't just to get sympathy or attention that's when it annoys me. also, a friend of mine has a friend who's emo and he was extremely rude to everyone present. we were all polite and introduced ourselves and tried to make conversation but he just ignored us. i mean, it's okay to be shy, i am myself but he didn't even make an effort to talk to us or anything which is what annoyed me. but i do listen to 'emo' music quite often and i really do like some of the styles that some of the kids at my school wear but some of those kids also have bad attitudes.:think:

I personally find it hard to engage in a conversation. Maybe he just couldn't relate with anything you were saying.

I took a link about high contrast from the Post Your Picture thread, went through it and found my self going through plenty of emo related articles at Wiki. All I found out is that people like to trash other things* to hide the only true fact: Those people are emo them self.

*I found a picture on a page about retarded people that said somthing on the lines of "Retards have hot faces".

~

I like the way emo people dress. It was diffrent and cool, but now its like a bad case of ring worm. Touch someone with it and you get it too *oppsies, better take off my track jacket XD*

The only thing that stops me from being emo is my tendency to be hyper, my love for classical music and being scared of those bigger girls who think they are emo.

I took a link about high contrast from the Post Your Picture thread, went through it and found my self going through plenty of emo related articles at Wiki. All I found out is that people like to trash other things* to hide the only true fact: Those people are emo them self.

*I found a picture on a page about retarded people that said somthing on the lines of "Retards have hot faces".

~

I like the way emo people dress. It was diffrent and cool, but now its like a bad case of ring worm. Touch someone with it and you get it too *oppsies, better take off my track jacket XD*

The only thing that stops me from being emo is my tendency to be hyper, my love for classical music and being scared of those bigger girls who think they are emo.

x3 I'm not emo but I *do* like some emo music. I blame my ex bf's influence of emo-ness music, I really like teh emo music :O

boy i'm annoyed, me and some friends were going to see panic! at the disco at leeds uni in april, but now all the tickets have sold out, guess we'll just have to get tickets for someone else. does anyone like that band by the way? marlon/ashtr particuarly?

I've only heard their song "I Write Sins Not Tragedies" and it's one of the worst things I've ever heard. :heh:

I've only heard their song "I Write Sins Not Tragedies" and it's one of the worst things I've ever heard. :heh:

how.dare.you. lol just kidding, that song does actually suck, the others are good though.

I love panic!

Try 'the only difference'. awesome song.

i gotta post my newest emo pic up.

emo people are sexy.
mhm.

April 26th im going to a Thursday concert!
whee~

i went to a concert to see them....they didnt do as good as i thought they would but still they were awesome and stil are awesome....and i like the song i write sins not tragedies...i donno why u guys dont lol...i think its cool

Um...They are pretty good but there is something about them I don't like....Don't know what though....The instrument part sounds weird. But, I like them, generally.

Camisado's a really good Panic! song.

also, panic! at the disco really isnt emo.
their band members all look and dress emo, but their music really isnt...

it's safe to assume a lot of these kids don't have problems. they're led into believing they do because the rest of the school/mtv is following the fashion of "emo/showing your feelings". the only problem these kids have is a dire need to fit in. they're giving a bad name to people who actually have emotional difficulties in life, because they fake it to appear romantic or cool. these are actually some of the happiest, most normal people ever, and they're throwing their lives away to appear like something broken. actual emotional difficulties are not taken as seriously, because it's become so common and fashionable.

When I think of emo, I think of gothic stuff, slitting wrists, lots of make-up (emo boys and girls wear dark make-up a lot). But I think that they're just expressing them?/their?selves, although it's a strange, scary way. They're just people.

Emo is the state of mind and Scene is the way you dress btw. So no one gets it mized up.

I find it ironic how emo's have long hair and they cut themselves. Maybe it's a sign that they're confused. (no offence)

^^^^ ohhhh, hehe. that made me laugh.

I think they're just attention whores, really :mellow:

I have to concur with angelic on this one.

I like how there's not enough room for the whole title of this on the index, so it looks like, "The EMO" as if it were some kind of animal. :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHTAT_UPm18&search=emo%20song
The Emo song, watch it if your looking for a laugh.

scene kids are freakin' hardcore
:mellow:

quote from chris rock

"i know some of a white dude are all into depression and shit. personally, i donno what choo all depressed about. ur white - smile!"

that cracks ma up- tehehehe..

I cant believe theres a thread about "emo"
For the first the term "emo" was another type of music genre.
Im not really sure how it came in turn of a slang word for people who are hella emotional.... EMO.tion?

This thread is to discuss about being emo. But yea, I think that the word "emo" is used to describe people who are too emotional

I personaly like the look thats steriotyped with emo people. I like the hair O.O,

I cant believe theres a thread about "emo"
For the first the term "emo" was another type of music genre.
Im not really sure how it came in turn of a slang word for people who are hella emotional.... EMO.tion?

and after that it became a word for people who have long hair that covers their eyes, who cut themselves and who are generally attention whores.

and after that it became a word for people who have long hair that covers their eyes, who cut themselves and who are generally attention whores.
:huh: I need to cut my hair then...it's very long...

As long as you don't cut yourself, kiss guys and whore around for attention you're safe ;)

I personaly like the look thats steriotyped with emo people. I like the hair O.O,
yeah, lol. :sweat:

As long as you don't cut yourself, kiss guys and whore around for attention you're safe ;)

Yay! :lol: LoL.

Sorry. I've been neglecting this..

I... HATE... EMOs... <_<

I think it really depends. Because of myspace emo has been paired up with a look. I know people who look "emo" but are normal in every way. They are happy, they laugh all the time and are fun to be around.

When you make a hate twords a culture group like that its kind of close minded. I can see how you will hate them if you have personal experience that doesnt give a culture good light but if not I think its silly because most are just trying to act cool and shun the culture group. I say this because not all will have drainpipes, not all will have flipped hair and not all are depressed.

Well, I said what I had to. I hate hippies.

He never said he hates people who have long hair. He hates emo. Learn to read.

Nowadays, it seems like whenever people see long hair, they automatically label the person emo.

That's kinda unfair.
I mean, I have long hair.
Or "emo" hair if you prefer.

However, that doesn't mean I make out with other guys, cut myself, cry to hawthorne heights, and make a huge drama of my life all the time.
People need to see behind just the long hair thing.

It's like seeing someone play a N64 and calling him/her emo.

:mellow:

Oh no! They tainted the N64? How could they?!

kiss guys

:cry:

lol, but seriously... emos are... ummm... pathetic? Is that the right word?

::--::--::--JoIn ThE aNtI-eMo MoVeMeNt--::--::--:: :heh:

I just really can't stand emos... it may be the fact that i broke it off with my bf, who was an emo, because he was bi and was also seeing a girl... which i found out about... oh well... plently of fish in the sea~

He never said he hates people who have long hair. He hates emo. Learn to read.

Sorry. I wasnt directing it at any particular person really. It was just how I felt about people who just say things like that.

-_-

Nowadays, it seems like whenever people see long hair, they automatically label the person emo.

That's kinda unfair.
I mean, I have long hair.
Or "emo" hair if you prefer.

However, that doesn't mean I make out with other guys, cut myself, cry to hawthorne heights, and make a huge drama of my life all the time.
People need to see behind just the long hair thing.

It's like seeing someone play a N64 and calling him/her emo.

:mellow:

I agree. I don't even wear tight clothes and people label me "emo." Actually, I have certain distaste for bands like Hawthorne Heights, even. :mellow: And I'm usually a happy person, too. Whatever. Labels are stupid. <_<

I agree. I don't even wear tight clothes and people label me "emo." Actually, I have certain distaste for bands like Hawthorne Heights, even. :mellow: And I'm usually a happy person, too. Whatever. Labels are stupid. <_<
:lol: YOU are STOOPER happy! :heh: sorry, i can see why you agree. I agree mainly with the labels are stupid part! besides that we have uniform so you cant wear tight clothes!

"Emo is NOT short for emotional music. It's actually EMOTIVE HARDCORE MUSIC. If you dont know what that is, pfft. stfu, you obviously don't know shit about the word or the music cockhead.

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""Emo" is not short for "Emotional." "Emo" does not mean Taking Back Sunday and Dashboard Confessional, despite what MTV has lead you to believe in the last few years. "Emo" is not sidebangs, tight pants, and male vocalists who sing like little girls about their failed relationships. "Emo" is not the use of diluted, meaningless metaphors and similes such as "My arms are like pinecones," and most definitely is not the rampant use of words such as "autumn," "heart," "knife," "bleeding," "leaves," and "razorblade."

I just thought I'd clear that up after all of these "definitions" in which I have encountered an unbelievable amount of people who try to pass off their blatantly false pretenses as fact, and are slowly infecting others with their high-horse, holier-than-thou bullshit. Because honestly, with your ridiculous definitions, Beethoven, George Gershwin, and Britney Spears are/was "emo bands."

Now, onto the real definition:

In the late 80's there was a movement in the hardcore genre that came to be known as "Emotive Hardcore," spearheaded by Rites Of Spring. Harder-core-than-thou kids, who swore by Dischord Records a la Minor Threat, actually coined the term "Emo" as something of a put-down for the kids who really liked Rites Of Spring, Indian Summer and this new wave of "Emotive" Hardcore bands. That's right, "Emo" was once not something kids called themselves. The field exploded outwards from there - Level-Plane Records has always been the most famous Emo label. Acts like Yaphet Kotto, I Hate Myself, Saetia, Hot Cross, A Day In Black And White, Funeral Diner, I Would Set Myself On Fire For You, You And I, and hosts of others came in the next decade. Most emo bands have since broken up, but there's still the occasional hold-out (again, the majority of Level-Plane Records' roster has been a procession of emo acts). Like most DIY hardcore/punk of the time, a majority found its way onto vinyl and not much else. Some people consider bands like Fugazi, and later Sunny Day Real Estate, a progression of emo, but personally, I don't quite follow that philosophy.

Often, more recently, this gets intertwined with post-hardcore, and understandably so - that's nothing to make an issue of, since well shit, at least it's close.

Since the late 90s, though, bands have been emerging in the vein of Taking Back Sunday, Dashboard Confessional, and the thousands of their clones. As far as I can tell, some lazy journalist somewhere, writing an article about them, decided "Well, fuck, no one knows what emo is anyways, so I'll call these bands "emo" - sounds more appealing than bubblegum pop rock..." and the spiral continued downwards into the current amalgomation of bands MTV has told everyone is "emo."

Somehow, people decided that "emo" meant "emotional," which is obviously bullshit, as 99% bands make music to illicit emotion, which would make "emotional" a completely all-encompassing genre from classical to opera to pop to rap."


or


Emo:

Emu spelled incorrectly.

"That emo sure is fast!"

they are talking about the fact that people wear and act in ways that have been labled emo!

I'm sure he can read. Don't spam up this thread. Poeple can talk about anything Emo in this thread. The old convo is dead, anyway.

I'm sure he can read. Don't spam up this thread. Poeple can talk about anything Emo in this thread The old convo is dead, anyway.
like you just said,people can talk about anything Emo in this thread. so its not spam

well i don't hate emos, the one's i know are pretty cool people, and people aseume that to be emo, is to be sad depressed, etc. i don't think so. they are who they are and some are happy some are sad, depends on what's going on in their life.

labels are just stupid. cause people can't be just this or just that. and it only causes divides in society anyway.

"Emo is NOT short for emotional music. It's actually EMOTIVE HARDCORE MUSIC. If you dont know what that is, pfft. stfu, you obviously don't know shit about the word or the music cockhead.

------

""Emo" is not short for "Emotional." "Emo" does not mean Taking Back Sunday and Dashboard Confessional, despite what MTV has lead you to believe in the last few years. "Emo" is not sidebangs, tight pants, and male vocalists who sing like little girls about their failed relationships. "Emo" is not the use of diluted, meaningless metaphors and similes such as "My arms are like pinecones," and most definitely is not the rampant use of words such as "autumn," "heart," "knife," "bleeding," "leaves," and "razorblade."

I just thought I'd clear that up after all of these "definitions" in which I have encountered an unbelievable amount of people who try to pass off their blatantly false pretenses as fact, and are slowly infecting others with their high-horse, holier-than-thou bullshit. Because honestly, with your ridiculous definitions, Beethoven, George Gershwin, and Britney Spears are/was "emo bands."

Now, onto the real definition:

In the late 80's there was a movement in the hardcore genre that came to be known as "Emotive Hardcore," spearheaded by Rites Of Spring. Harder-core-than-thou kids, who swore by Dischord Records a la Minor Threat, actually coined the term "Emo" as something of a put-down for the kids who really liked Rites Of Spring, Indian Summer and this new wave of "Emotive" Hardcore bands. That's right, "Emo" was once not something kids called themselves. The field exploded outwards from there - Level-Plane Records has always been the most famous Emo label. Acts like Yaphet Kotto, I Hate Myself, Saetia, Hot Cross, A Day In Black And White, Funeral Diner, I Would Set Myself On Fire For You, You And I, and hosts of others came in the next decade. Most emo bands have since broken up, but there's still the occasional hold-out (again, the majority of Level-Plane Records' roster has been a procession of emo acts). Like most DIY hardcore/punk of the time, a majority found its way onto vinyl and not much else. Some people consider bands like Fugazi, and later Sunny Day Real Estate, a progression of emo, but personally, I don't quite follow that philosophy.

Often, more recently, this gets intertwined with post-hardcore, and understandably so - that's nothing to make an issue of, since well shit, at least it's close.

Since the late 90s, though, bands have been emerging in the vein of Taking Back Sunday, Dashboard Confessional, and the thousands of their clones. As far as I can tell, some lazy journalist somewhere, writing an article about them, decided "Well, fuck, no one knows what emo is anyways, so I'll call these bands "emo" - sounds more appealing than bubblegum pop rock..." and the spiral continued downwards into the current amalgomation of bands MTV has told everyone is "emo."

Somehow, people decided that "emo" meant "emotional," which is obviously bullshit, as 99% bands make music to illicit emotion, which would make "emotional" a completely all-encompassing genre from classical to opera to pop to rap."


or


Emo:

Emu spelled incorrectly.

"That emo sure is fast!"

Great history lesson. But you must remember terms change. Emo, because of teens, is now also people who are depressed and act all emotional about it. The steriotype of it is also those with flipped hair, tight jeans and the other stuff. If you do feel that the term emo isnt right and should only be used with music then use the term emu instead.

*steriotypes are BAD*

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/emo

Geez, it's not even a word! =0 Goes on to show just how stupid these types of things really are... <_<
I'm not emo, I'm Marlon!

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/emo

Geez, it's not even a word! =0 Goes on to show just how stupid these types of things really are... <_<
I'm not emo, I'm Marlon!
we all know that and besides stereotypes are for people who have zero selfconfidence and have to put others down to feel powerful

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/emo

Geez, it's not even a word! =0 Goes on to show just how stupid these types of things really are... <_<
I'm not emo, I'm Marlon!

A term doesnt have to be in the dictionary to hurt someone or lable someone.

we all know that and besides stereotypes are for people who have zero selfconfidence and have to put others down to feel powerful

Right on.

Right on.
it happens so often to me that i should know by now!

"Emo" was invented by a guy who was reallyyyy depressed. And I have had someone go Emo on me and he kinda fell over, in the process...I don't know what that was about...I didn't even know this kid.

again stereotypes are for people who have zero selfconfidence and have to put others down to feel powerful

"Emo" was invented by a guy who was reallyyyy depressed. And I have had someone go Emo on me and he kinda fell over, in the process...I don't know what that was about...I didn't even know this kid.
what the hell? that made no sense...x_x
me and my friends got shouted at by a chav on a bike today. he called us emo... we're not even emox_x

oh, and the night before last we were on this big field type thing and a group of about 30 chavs (some on bikes) ran after us all chucking bottles. it was so exciting they were smashing everywhere and hitting cars and everything! most of us ran away but i had to hang back with someone so drunk because they didn't know what the hell was going on, and so whilst most of the chavs ran after my friends, this one dirty chav came up to me and was like now then sunshine where are you going?' then some nice people who worked in a cafe hurried us inside before it got any worse and called the police.

oh, and just to clarify my point, what they shouted at us was 'dirty moshers' before they all chased after us. what i'm trying to say is many people that get labelled as emo are just not wearing tracksuit bottoms and burberry, and may have a piece of black clothing on them. it's ridiculous:heh:

Steriotype emos dont wear burberry; they wear nuddie/drainpipe jeans, camo hoddie, converse taylors and band tee's. Saddly that could be anyone.

Steriotypes suck ass even though our brains are programmed to "box" people all the time. Be it your friend or a stranger on the streets. Shez could say he hates steriotypes, but he just called a bunch of people Chavs though.

See? They hurt but we cant live without them.

Steriotype emos dont wear burberry; they wear nuddie/drainpipe jeans, camo hoddie, converse taylors and band tee's. Saddly that could be anyone.

Steriotypes suck ass even though our brains are programmed to "box" people all the time. Be it your friend or a stranger on the streets. Shez could say he hates steriotypes, but he just called a bunch of people Chavs though.

See? They hurt but we cant live without them.
no what i meant was chavs wear burberry, and from their point of view, if you don't dress like them, you must be emo

Oh, oh oh oh XD

Gotcha.

Oh, oh oh oh XD

Gotcha.
cool, but what you said about stereotypes is right. they only reason i hate chavs is because of their often always violent or hostile behaviour. the clothing doesn't bother me at all, but when i see chavs i become extremely conscious not to look at them, lest i give them grounds to 'smack' me:(
where i live is great though, nowhere near as bad as some british towns/cities... theres mostly emos or trendies

these people are ridiculous!

well emo can be a personality or just a style of clothing. i just stand in the middle, the clothing style will surely pass but the personality will not.

my friend turned somewhat emo more like punk or something

what emo? new or old