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Gnomish
June 30th, 2004, 08:22 pm
Is this technique still used in modern compositions? I have noticed it a few times in Xenogears music, I believe. Do any of you use it in your pieces that you create?

Al
July 1st, 2004, 02:51 am
Nope, I find it's better if I modulate. Forgive me for saying this, but the picardy is too "easy" to use. Instead of a piece in C minor "suddenly" ending on a C major chord (the raised picardy third), I prefer to gradually modulate from C minor to C major, and it makes the ending more obvious, and gives it a nice twist, but one we can adjust to. It's just more "harder" to do, making it seem more sophisticated, rather than something you just throw in at the end . . . hope I didn't offend you, haha.

Moebius
July 2nd, 2004, 09:54 am
Yes people still use it.

michael
July 3rd, 2004, 02:57 am
A LOT of people still use it. But I do the same as Alphonse and modulate.

I have a question. Does the Picardy Third have to be raised to a major chord, or can it work backwards as well? I mean, go from major to minor on the last chord? I've heard pieces in this fashion, but is this the same technical device?

Elite666
July 3rd, 2004, 04:19 am
I don't think it would be the same device. The tierce de picardi was originally mandatory for all religious pieces based around a minor key. I guess you can't have your psalms leaving god all depressed.

Al
July 3rd, 2004, 05:14 am
Hmm, I've never thought of that before. Does it have a name? We can call it the Michael third, or the Yago third! ^_^

And elite, I didn't know that it was mandatory. Thanks for that extra tidbit!

michael
July 3rd, 2004, 08:34 am
The Yago third... umm... :sweatdrop:

Maybe it really has a name ( :: e-mailing my Music Theory professor :: ). But I guess since it's not as common as the Picardy Third, the name isn't well-known.