i loved ff7! so when will it come outthe AC i mean. any where i can go to see previews of it?

I think it comes out sometime this month. Only on DVD though.

really? I thought like march 2005... maybe thats just for PSP though

www.adventchildren.net

March!? :blink:
wow it shouldnt be that early! lol, jk....
Well i saw from sites that it's either coming out late 2004 or quite early 2005.
lol not sure, but it's one of them...or even later....

lol, saw many sites with tons of like trailers of it...
www.fantasy-forever.com
That should be the site...i forgot if you can just go into the site with that URL.
Cuz i got in from another person who gave me the whole URL of the movie trailers.

Well hope you see some of it...It's worth the wait....Awesome Computer work.

I don't think I'll like this one much.. the characters look so stupid, especially Sephiwuss and Cloud.

Cloud looks alright, but Sephiroth looks like a girl ><

Sephiroth looks stupid in FFVII: AC. Far too feminine, laughably so. I can&#39;t wait to see what Aeris/Aerith looks like&#33; I think there are a few scans of her at that site someone posted earlier.

I like cloud in it, and sephiroth would look better if it weren&#39;t for that disgusting black lipstick.

Originally posted by yoshinobu_chan@Jul 10 2004, 05:24 PM
Sephiroth looks stupid in FFVII: AC. Far too feminine, laughably so. I can&#39;t wait to see what Aeris/Aerith looks like&#33; I think there are a few scans of her at that site someone posted earlier.
You can see her chest, neck and chin here :sorc:

http://www.squarenet.info/main.php?site=sn-news&id=1151

I kind of hope Aeris only makes an appearance in flashbacks. I just can&#39;t think of any way they could bring her back that wouldn&#39;t be a little... stupid.

Well there always a phoenix pinion and some potions... Though getting her out of the lake would be a job....

Hmmm... on second thought, a moldy, half-eaten (by fish), bloated undead Aeris would be kinda cool. I&#39;m seeing Resident Evil meets FFVII . Of course I jest, but seriously, if they were going to bring her back with a Phoenix down, why didn&#39;t they just let you do it in the game?

Originally posted by Mies@Jul 11 2004, 03:13 AM
Well there always a phoenix pinion and some potions... Though getting her out of the lake would be a job....
Yeah, I always wonder why Cloud never used that on Aeris =P Makes no sense at all and kind of destroys the whole FF7 storyline.

Originally posted by Angelic@Jul 11 2004, 09:25 AM
Yeah, I always wonder why Cloud never used that on Aeris =P Makes no sense at all and kind of destroys the whole FF7 storyline.
But, isn&#39;t there a difference between being KO&#39;d and having a sword going right through you? Somehow, I think the phoenix down theory wouldn&#39;t work too well.

Originally posted by yoshinobu_chan@Jul 11 2004, 10:25 AM
But, isn&#39;t there a difference between being KO&#39;d and having a sword going right through you? Somehow, I think the phoenix down theory wouldn&#39;t work too well.
Ok, if they are just KO-ed, then why do you lose a battle when everyone&#39;s KO? Why don&#39;t they just regain conciousness after a while? I don&#39;t support the KO theory simply because it doesn&#39;t make sense, when you&#39;re KO you wake up after a while.

The KO is just another term for death, but used so that the game rating is lower, why else would their be a spell called LIFE that brings a charater out of KO?

@Angelic: That would be an intresting idea to bring to RPG&#39;s... But then how could you lose?

Maybe if you&#39;ve been KO&#39;d when you awaken you would have half stats and then if you are KO&#39;d a second time you would die.

ehh why would aeris need to be revived or whatever... ac is a prequel

FFVII:AC is a sequel. It happens 2 years after the events of FFVII (that&#39;s what square-enix&#39; official website says and I&#39;m inclined to believe them). Even if it was a prequel, Cloud didn&#39;t meet Aeris until the opening of FFVII so it wouldn&#39;t make much sense to have her in a prequel that centers around Cloud.

A translation of most important parts of the official site can be found at

http://ff7ac.net/index.php?s=info/translations

oh wth... thought it was prequel all this time :rolleyes:

word is that ffvii:ac is still well and truly under development. we wont be seeing it this year, thats for sure

I think there is a prequel game for the mobile phone which is called Final Fantasy VII: Before Crisis which is centered on the Turks. I think Aeris might be in that one, but only minorly. :think:

Never heard of such a thing&#33; I have to check that out&#33;&#33;&#33;

Really? Apparently, there are posters up in train stations in Japan advertising it.

I thought it was a movie.. :mellow:

Advent Children is a movie, the Turks thingy is a game for cell phones.

Oh ok. Talking about cellphone, am I the only one to find that they absolutely broke the FF7 world ambiance ?

I don&#39;t mind "hidden" publicity in a movie..but this.

Originally posted by Elite666@Jul 10 2004, 06:41 PM
I kind of hope Aeris only makes an appearance in flashbacks. I just can&#39;t think of any way they could bring her back that wouldn&#39;t be a little... stupid.
I&#39;m sure they can think of something. For example, they might show aeris falling and going down, but then someone that we never saw is underwater and savers her, or maybe she floated to surface and some white mage revived her, who knows, there are so many possiblities that can occur. Though I haven&#39;t seen that part for months, if I recall, we only saw Aeris fall in, we didn&#39;t see what happen after that.

Now that you guys mention it, it is really funny that he never used a Phoenix Down on Aeris. Oh well. I think FF7: AC might be cool, the trailor looked neat

No offense Nightmare but those scenarios are about what I hope they don&#39;t do. If Aeris comes back it should be cool, interesting and complex. It can&#39;t just be some everyday occurance like a white mage bringing her back (it wouldn&#39;t matter if someone grabbed her body while it was falling because it was still just a body), if it was, there isn&#39;t any logical reason why Cloud wouldn&#39;t have done it in FFVII.

Also, There is a basic difference to being dead and being downed in battle that Angleic mentioned (I think it was Angelic, sorry if I have it wrong) and Aeris was most definitely dead.

However, I think it would be cool if Aeris came back by some huge ritual at Cosmo Canyon (or any other mystical setting) or maybe if she was brought back as the embodiment of the spirit of the planet, it wouldn&#39;t really be Aeris but it would use her image to get to Cloud.

Either way the movie looks cool. I don&#39;t think the Sephiroth character is really Sephiroth (except where they show the flashbak to Nibelheim). I think there are actually multiple Sephiroth clones that are opposing Cloud. Also, looking at the title, Advent usually refers to the Second coming of Christ whereas I think it could very well refer to the second coming of Sephiroth and these Advent Children are his lesser clones.

One last thing, did anyone else think the figure dressed in a white cloak in the first trailer was actually Sephiroth? After all, they show the nibelheim flashback directly after you see him.

Originally posted by Elite666@Jul 15 2004, 08:46 AM
Also, looking at the title, Advent usually refers to the Second coming of Christ whereas I think it could very well refer to the second coming of Sephiroth and these Advent Children are his lesser clones.
Over here, "advent" is the period of four weeks before Christmas :mellow:

I&#39;m working off the Merriam-Webster dictionary&#39;s defenition for the word "Advent".
This can be found at dictionary.com as the second set of definitions. Advent is more or less the same thing here with "Advent Calenders" a countdown to Christas involving 24 chocolates.

By the way Angelic, where is "over here" I&#39;m not trying to be creepy but you&#39;ve referred to "Americans" from an outsider point of view (which I can identify with, I&#39;m Canadian) and you have a western European time zone. Nothing important but it piqued my interest.

Originally posted by Elite666@Jul 15 2004, 06:46 AM
Also, looking at the title, Advent usually refers to the Second coming of Christ whereas I think it could very well refer to the second coming of Sephiroth and these Advent Children are his lesser clones.
Replacing "Sephiroth" with "Genova" might make more sense . . . after all, isn&#39;t Sephiroth a child of Genova ?

I found a website that&#39;s got some pretty good info on Advent Children. It&#39;s ffshrine.org. They&#39;ve got a pic of Aeirs there. Click here (http://www.ffshrine.org/ffac/aeris.new.jpg)

They&#39;ve also got some stuff on the prequel. Can&#39;t remember at the moment what it&#39;s called. If your looking for it, it&#39;s by Advent Children, Tactics, and Crystal Chronicals in the menu under the games.

Originally posted by Elite666@Jul 15 2004, 03:28 AM
By the way Angelic, where is "over here" I&#39;m not trying to be creepy but you&#39;ve referred to "Americans" from an outsider point of view (which I can identify with, I&#39;m Canadian) and you have a western European time zone. Nothing important but it piqued my interest.
From what I know, angelic is Dutch and lives over near Germany or something.

Anyone know how long the movie is?

About 1:20... I think...

Originally posted by Mies@Jul 15 2004, 08:52 PM
About 1:20... I think...
oh man, I wish it would be longer

one thing that worries me about this movie is that they are gonna give voices to these characters. We&#39;ve imagined the voices of these characters for years, and now, it&#39;s gonna be defined (like how LOTR movie ruined the book) Actually, I never really imagined voices for these characters, but now they&#39;ll just... be there. I dunno, the wrong voices could ruin the movie, sorta like an english dub of an anime (which all you otaku hate soooo much =P )

EDIT: another thing I wondered, since this isn&#39;t about a video game (technically) then why is this topic in Games? :think: (now I&#39;m just being a smart ass; sorry :( )

The voices... there are trailers which have Cloud&#39;s voice in them, I think. :think: I haven&#39;t watched any of the trailers, seeing as my slow connection can&#39;t handle any &#39;big&#39; files. <_< The voices should amuse me for some time if they aren&#39;t well done. XD

Lol, good point servbot. The voices will annoy me also. But I know they aren&#39;t going to do little text bubles in it. Though if they did something like subtitles, that would be preferable, but not realistic. I wonder what serphiroth will sound like.

The wrong voice for sephiroth could completey and permanently ruin his image. It would be almot revolutionary. I can almost see then giving him a voice like the English Pegasus (Yu Gi Oh) or Ayame (Fruits Basket) because of his long, white hair XD

Originally posted by yoshinobu_chan@Jul 10 2004, 03:24 PM
Sephiroth looks stupid in FFVII: AC. Far too feminine, laughably so. I can&#39;t wait to see what Aeris/Aerith looks like&#33; I think there are a few scans of her at that site someone posted earlier.
lol I don&#39;t know about "feminine", but he just looks old to me. XD

Majority of the guys there are hawt: Cloud, Kadaj, Vincent and Reno. So glomp-able.... And Tifa looks awesome with her black outfit. ^^ Anyone know what Advent Children is REALLY about? I only see the Lifestream, cool fight scenes, and some mysterious stranger in a wheelchair in the trailers.

There&#39;s a lot of things at adventchildren.net (http://www.adventchildren.net) about Advent Children. Maybe you should check it out, Millia.

from what i hear...it comes out in august

and for the actual site from japan

http://www.square-enix.co.jp/dvd/ff7ac/

yeah i love the trailers ^_^

the reason he looks feminine si probably cus your looking at the clone that IS a woman =/ i have a nice trailer that hasd tifa in it fighting the clone that reminds me alot of Zell from FF8

Originally posted by servbot@Jul 16 2004, 07:41 AM
oh man, I wish it would be longer

one thing that worries me about this movie is that they are gonna give voices to these characters. We&#39;ve imagined the voices of these characters for years, and now, it&#39;s gonna be defined (like how LOTR movie ruined the book) Actually, I never really imagined voices for these characters, but now they&#39;ll just... be there. I dunno, the wrong voices could ruin the movie, sorta like an english dub of an anime (which all you otaku hate soooo much =P )

I don&#39;t think a lot of animation movie get past 1:30.

For the voices..I think this quite relative. I could like the voice and you could not. But still, it doesn&#39;t mean they are good or bad. It&#39;s a matter of choice, and that&#39;s not us who make it. For LOTR, the voices were actually the real voice of the actor...so I don&#39;t see the point about this ruining the movie.

The voice actor listed for Cloud is Takahiro Sakurai and for Sephiroth it is Shinichirô Miki. Both voice actors played the role of their retrospecitve characters in the Japanese version of Kingdom Hearts.

Those are the voice actors for Cloud and Sephiroth. If they did the Japanese voices in Kingdom Heart, surely they won&#39;t be so bad...?

Then again, it could end up like FF:SW and then it would have bad enough voice acting that everyone would hate it. I really hope that doesn&#39;t happen. I just hope they include a subbed version on the DVD, I think English voices usually end up ruining any Japanese media. It doesn&#39;t matter how good the voice is because they need to change the meaning of the dialogue to fit with the dubbing.

Originally posted by Elite666@Jul 25 2004, 06:51 PM
Then again, it could end up like FF:SW and then it would have bad enough voice acting that everyone would hate it. I really hope that doesn&#39;t happen. I just hope they include a subbed version on the DVD, I think English voices usually end up ruining any Japanese media. It doesn&#39;t matter how good the voice is because they need to change the meaning of the dialogue to fit with the dubbing.
I detest dubs... If there is no Japanese audio version with a translated sub, I shall cry...

It actually might get some good voice acting in this one though... It is possible, after all..

Show me one Anime where the dubbing is better than the subbing and I&#39;ll agree that it could be good but unless Square Enix is going to redo all of the different mouth animations to work with a properly translated English script, it isn&#39;t likely to work well no matter how good the actual voice acting is.

MUST HAVE ADVENT CHILDREN&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

Can&#39;t wait for it...is there a release date in the US?

Lots of Information. (http://http://www.minastirith.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=000359)

There is plenty of information through the link above about Final Fantasy: Advent Children. From Page 1 - 3.

Just thought I&#39;d share. ^_^

I can&#39;t wait to see Vincent bustin&#39; peoples heads&#33; The voice acting will probably suck... They&#39;ll probably make Clouds voice way too deep or way too high. They might never get good voice acting...sad really... :cry:

I really hope the mouths go with the words. I mean it;s one thing in anime, but in a 3-D animated movie?

Well I know there going to completely screw up on somthing... Oh well, I&#39;ll tell them now... nice try man, nice try...... :whistle: *Sigh*

Umm... Their isn&#39;t a movie (animated), that I know of, where the mouths matched the words... It will take many years before that technology appears (about when I&#39;m 60&#33;)

Actually, accurate lip-synching has been done in videogames already. Take a look at baten kaitos trailer. (http://s.streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/515/515536/BatenKaitos_051304_01_wmvlow.wmv) This is a perfect example of how to do localization right. Not only are all of the voices perfect and well acted but Namco also took the time to redo all the lip-synching to be almost perfect enough to read the characters lips in English. Granted there is probably less movie to redo to get the lip-synching right in a videogame but the technology is there.

Originally posted by Motion in Music@Aug 14 2004, 10:55 PM
Lots of Information. (http://http://www.minastirith.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=000359)


Sorry this is late, but the link doesn&#39;t work for me. :bleh: I must know a date&#33;

If someone would be so kind...Don&#39;t hurt me&#33; :ph34r:

Me too&#33; I-I can&#39;t bare to drag my mouse up there...so lazy...feely faint... Uhhhhgg&#33;&#33;&#33; X_X

ur using a laptop

Fingure too lazy...can&#39;t...drag....No I&#39;m serious(No, Not about the lazy) the Link does&#39;t work for me either...help...can&#39;t go on much longer...Must have Advent Children date...when...

Works for me until I get a parental control popup and then it kicks me, so their must be somthing behind it...

WHY WON&#39;T SOMEBODY HELP ME&#33;&#33; :cold:

From http://www.adventchildren.net/ff7ac/site/faq/ac.htm:

Originally Advent Children was scheduled to be released in Summer 2004 in Japan. However just after E3, the release date was changed to a more vague "2004" timeframe. Information released soon after indicated that Advent Children would be released after Before Crisis, which is being released in September in Japan. This puts the Japanese release date somewhere between September and December 2004.

The US release date is likely to be some time during the first quarter of 2005, either at the same time as Sony&#39;s PSP or sometime shortly after. A couple of online gaming stores have recently opened pre-orders for the PSP version of the movie, and list speculative release dates between the end of March/early April.

No European or Australian release date has been heard of as yet, although like the games, we speculate that it would be likely a release will occur for these countries after the movie is released in the US.

Thank you very much Zero.

Darn it, I just realized I can&#39;t ask that for my birthday. Oh well, geuss I should start saving, I&#39;m dirt poor.

Well it&#39;s just in time for my birthday&#33; Does anyone know how much it&#39;ll cost?