I am in 8th grade and can only tongue sixteenth notes at a 70-80 quarter-note-per-minute tempo. I at least need to tongue sixteenth notes at a 85-100 beat per minute tempo. Help? (clarinet experience 4 years)

oh gosh..

*hasnt played his clarinet sicne last year*

thres really no technique i found for quick tonguing/articulating...
cept just..practicing until your comfortabe articulating at the desired tempo...

*sighs*

Well, at least I had one reply rather than that "other forum":heh:.

I try to implement the "Taka-taka..." sound in the tonguing. There's probably an easier way. =S

Does my experience have anything to do with this?

I like to say daka-daka.
Try playing scales with sixteen 16th notes per note. As you get better, play the scale faster. With practice, you will become a master of the 16th note!
(just to fore warn you, in high school you will start to see 32nd note if you haven't already!):lol:

just to fore warn you, in high school you will start to see 32nd note if you haven't already!:lol:

I am currently SLURRING 2 32nd notes with a combined dotted eighth note.
:kfreaked: DID THAT MEAN TONGUING?!

More sluring than tounging. If you play a wind instrument (brass,woodwind,piano) you need to make all of that sound connected, so in this case-slurring. I play clarinet and my great teacher says to slur them if it has a slur above/below the notes.

I play clarinet and my great teacher says to slur them if it has a slur above/below the notes.

That seems obvious:heh: . What do all of you mean by that "taka-taka" thing? I obviously don't say it while playing, do I?

EDIT: Any sixteenth notes (tongued) :unsure: at a Presto Tempo in High School:think: ?

I believe that they are refering to double-tounging. This appears to be a non-reed instrument thing, or so I have been told. I've been playing for 9 years (well, the first two years I didn't practice...) and I can kinda tongue that fast, but the big problem is getting your fingers in coordination if you are moving. Basically, I would try and find some studies for faster tounging, or just practice and build up your muscles more.

(Btw, excuse any spelling errors with "tounge"... which I can't see if its right or not)

yeah, taka-taka/daka-daka/daga-daga are syllables used to double tongue. It's mostly a brass thing i think, but its starting to become more common among reed players. The ta or da is tonguing regularly with the tip of your tongue at the tip of the reed, and the ka or ga causes the back of your tongue to touch the roof of your mouth and stopping the flow of air, articulating the note.

Just say one of those words right now and pay attention to your toung as you say it. Notice how your tounge separates the sylables. That is what you want your tounge to do when toungeing your sixteenth notes. Do it slowly and work your way faster.

"Double tonguing consists of two movements: one is simular to regular tonguing which would be the front area of the tongue stroking the reed as in "teh". Immediately following this initial attack, the hump portion abruptly rises up striking the roof of the oral cavity which in turn stops he airflow from the larynx. This gives the aural appearance of a second tongued note. The feeling in the mouth for the second stroke is like saying any of the sounds, keh or kuh. Another way to approximate this feeling is close to the sensation of coughing. The double tongue sequence sounds like teh-keh or tuh-kuh repeated rapidly. Triple tonguing combines double tonguing into triplet combinations, teh-keh-teh followed by keh-teh-keh. Both Techniques are a matter of timing and slow practice can be combined in all ways. It isd important to realize how the various elements of tongue and reed placement are related to each other, so that one becomes aware of the many varieties of articulation available. The point is to experiment with all the possibilities in order that a flexible approach to, and a heightened sensitivity of the relationships are achieved for musical results."

taken from a David Liebman book