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Lost251
April 1st, 2006, 11:41 pm
Hi, I'm new and I need a little help.

I have a piano concert coming up, and I was planning on playing "Wakare no Kyoku" from Full Metal Alchemist. When I showed the peice to my piano teacher, he recognized it. He said he was 90% sure that this was a peice from Chopin, not Ooshima Michiru.

Anyways, both he and I are trying to find the real (English) title for this peice, and it's composer. Does anyone know if Chopin wrote this, or maybe some other person?

I hope there's some classical music fans out there to help. Please, and thanks. ^^

P.S. What's the English translation of the title? I'm trying to figure that out too, but I don't speak a word of Japanese.

Milchh
April 1st, 2006, 11:54 pm
I am sure Full Metal "stole" the score from Chopin. Chopin, that I know of, did not write anything like that....

Lost251
April 2nd, 2006, 12:05 am
I didn't say that Full Metal "stole" the piece. I simply stated that it sounded very very similar to a Chopin piece. Otherwise my piano teacher (who has been playing for thirty-four years, and doesn't even know what Japanese anime is) would of never immeadiatly recognized it.

Eddy
April 2nd, 2006, 12:51 am
Hmm, I did a search on Musipedia and a piece by Chopin did come up that bares a striking resemblence to the piece in question. The piece is étude No. 3 from Chopin's opus 10. Notably, both pieces are in E major and seem to share the same tempo as well. I downloaded a midi version from www.classicalarchives.com and there can be no doubt, they are pretty much the same piece. It looks like we may have stumbled on a confirmed case of outright plagiarism.

The name Wakare no Kyoku itself means something to the effect of Parting Music according to an online dictionary I checked with.

Sephiroth
April 2nd, 2006, 09:49 pm
yeh i remember this tune. but if you remember it also had beathovens tune. I don't know if it was meant to of been plagerised, because if im correct when this tune was played Ed was meant to of been in the otherside of the gate going to classic england. which is why the tune may of been used. you sure it wasn't performed by the other guy

xeronia
April 6th, 2006, 02:26 am
Yup, sounds like something Chopin would write...you might want to check the copyrights of Full Metal Alchemists and check to see if they just retitled the song for their own purposes.

xeronia
July 8th, 2006, 03:43 pm
The two pieces are the same. I looked at a transcribed version of "Wakare no Kyoku" (from Ichigos.com) and compared it to a copy of the Etude that I had in a Chopin book. They have different time signatures (2/4) and (C), but everything else is exactly the same. Since both time signatures reduce to the same fraction, that is negliable. I can send scans of the Etude if you like.

Al
July 9th, 2006, 04:18 am
I don't know the anime song, but that etude by Chopin (Opus 10, Number 3) is quite famous. There have been a number of covers done on it (I just don't know what their names are).

Edit: Okay, so I've listened to the anime midi as posted on Ichigo's, and it's exactly the same.

Liquid Feet
July 10th, 2006, 03:50 am
You can't call it plagiarism until you watch the credits of the episode(s) on which it is featured. Chopin may be credited.

melzii
July 16th, 2006, 08:55 am
All i know is that when I played it at home, my Dad started singing along. And i was like "WTH you don't watch FMA!!!"
and then he said it was a classical song.....

an-kun
July 20th, 2006, 09:33 pm
It is Chopin. I told Spoony ages ago it wasn't from FMA. It's as Eddy has said. It's one of the most recognisable classical pieces! The better musicians should know how to recognise classical music from its sound.

danieln
September 17th, 2006, 04:27 am
yep

Milchh
September 17th, 2006, 05:33 am
yep

Please, do NOT revive dead and-now-useless threads.

Thank-you. ^_^

danieln
September 17th, 2006, 05:41 am
Please, do NOT revive dead and-now-useless threads.

Thank-you. ^_^

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RD
September 19th, 2006, 11:01 pm
There was no point to posting in this thread because we everyone already decided on what was to be thought. After a while, if you have an opinion for such a petty thread you should just make a comment in your head.

RHYME

MMWoodward
September 27th, 2007, 01:30 am
Nah, it wasn't stolen, as some may say. After awhile, classical pieces almost become public property. You see many different classical pieces being used almost anywhere possible. It becomes commonplace. Many shows in many countries use these songs because people recognize most of them instantly. I knew this song long before I saw FMA, so when I heard it in the anime, I became very excited, because it's one of my favourite pieces, even if it showed up at a sad scene!

red77432
December 26th, 2007, 06:51 am
wakare no kyoku is not actually for piano but it was taken from chopin's etude op.10 no.3, but theres a piano part lol i kno this cuz i pratice these kinda pieces and i heard it from fma lolz

Nyu001
December 26th, 2007, 01:37 pm
Wakare no Kyoku= Tune of separation, at least that is what the one I have say, and yes the original is from a Chopin's Etude.