Here is my first (crappy) song that I was just having fun with. Maybe you guys can suggest where I can go with it.

It's very random... >.>

Hmm, it seems somehow clumsy and disjointed, no offense (I'm a crappy composer, myself). Still, for a first try, that isn't too bad. My first attempts were abysmal, to say the least.

Sepharite how is it random. Just wondering

The rhythm is very dissconnected. The melody seems all over the place without a clear direction.

But it was a good first try. Keep practising!

First off, you lacked a clear goal with what you wanted to do with the music. This is a common mistake with new composer and naturally corrects itself. Second of all, you need to have more harmony in your music. When the saxophones played in the middle of the song it didn't enhance the piece but distract from it. It merely played the same few notes you been playing. You need to harmonize the pitches and possiblily have underling chords. Also be a bit more patient in your music. Don't rush devolpment. Take your time and remember rest is okay!

Heres another one, it was made after listening to Nightmare Before Christmas. To you it probably doesn't but if you ever played the band arrangement the low bras has 32 notes over and over, for about 3 measures, a number of times. So here it is. (Its sounds nothing like it so just comment on the song.) Its realy short to. :(

Don't Know : OH MY GOD! I had to exit that almost right when that devilis't saxophone appearned in it. Good LORD! I could not stand that randomness-was torture. Like I told other people, FIND CHORDS, THEN FIND A MELODY THAT FITS IN WITH THEM. And seriously, tempo isnt a 32nd note or a 16th note, and which you OBVIOUSLZY do not know that at all. I can clearly state that you just click in random melodies. Anyone in their right mind would not submit that and touture others ears with that dispised... UHG... I think you get the picture.. I HATED IT.

Night : Bad impression of night. 'Fact, didn't like it at all, but I could listen through the whole thing without killing myself. Anyway, again with the notes. It just sounds so... uhg how to explain it... Well, here's one of my quotes :

"Finding a melody takes a true heart and ear. The soul of the heart, the brain of the ear is what takes you to the perilous journey of making your own magical melody. When you tryly find your ear's brain, and your heart's soul, then-only-can you find that melody."

I kinda liked the groove you had at the beginning of "don't know), but you never really supported it with other harmonic voices, so it ended up sounding kinda random-ish. But I liked it enough to sorta edit it - check it out. I've harmonized it more, and took out the sax part. It might be a bit extreme, though - lots of block chords, and bitonic at parts too.

Thanks and I like your comment of Don't know, It really sucked didn't it, well thats why I am not a composer huh. oh and maestro, you were commenting dont know, you said something about 32-16th notes, what for, or did you switch to night. And about the 32-16th notes listen to nightmare before christmas, either whats this or somethings up with jack and you might here them. (Just a thought :shifty: )

This is what came out of my head. I was singing it when I went to State convention in Fresno, California for a parlimentary procedure competition.

Heres another addition to cool but I had this mapped in my head while listening to my friend Patrick play the melody with a acoustic guitar.

Cool... is quite the opposite. Very random chords and a very random/annoying clarinet coming out of nowhere. Sorry, I hate it... couldn't listen to the rest.

Maybe you should take up ballet instead? >.>

ya your right about cool, but please tell me how I may make it better.

Obviously, a solution is to learn music theory and next to fully understand what is holding you back. When you press B and C together, does it sound good to you? Try to understand what sounds "good", although that's difficult as everyone's opinion is different. But a way to do it is look at other sheet music, analyze it, the chords, the placement of notes and that'll give you a clue on how you can make music.

And are you placing random notes or are you thinking that in your head and placing that down. Or maybe you're tone deaf?

Ok and sepharite, what about the other one.

It's definately better than the rest. There's this one section using the A Major chord - that's a good melody. The rest are quite random...

Thanks, you are probably the most truthfull, commenter. Heres another, the beginning reminds me of a airport with the trombone and tuba making the sound of the plane taking so. Don't get me wrong because the rest does'nt, I just needed to name it. It is short and I can probably make it better but I'm lazy.

Heres another, it was definitely my best, so far, without being too random. (seraphite) Because Im using midi, what would be best to clean up the ending? This is D-major

Why don't you try to make something for a solo instrument, such as the piano? These two compositions, "airtport" and "aegis" sound like 'huh??' to me. I had no idea where they were going. Maybe it was bad use of instruments, they sounded very choppy. Like an on-off switch or something.

Does this image create an image, or does it belong in a screwed up game. If so tell me! :) It repeats five times so you dont have to listen to it all.

in a very screwed up game!!!!

in a very screwed up game!!!!

A little harsh, but yeah... :sweat:

Ok.

This is the image I got from that song (ok this is going to be harsh):

I imaged a very old nintendo playing a game, crashing, and the same cracking annoying sound/noise keeps repeating till you take the power off. It's very annoying as it isn't good for your ears.

Now how you could fix it:

-Use other instruments
-Use the chords in another way
-Make the melody flow with the chords


or you could just start another compositions.

Well I'm sorry for being harsh, the others were so-so (4/10 to 6/10) but this one was just REAL bad!

-7 / 10

Dude, stop with the saxophone MIDI it sounds like shit. Seriously, you've made me have the saxophone even more than I did before.

Anyway, I've said in the past-study other music. Don't just write stuff thinking it's unique because you're music is 'different.' It is-different in a bad way, horrid' way.

Seriously, take some time.

This I have been working on for a month. It short but, it sounds cool. And don't worry no saxophone maestro. The title doesn't mean anything.

Ugh... my ears =(

It lacks everything that sounds good...sorry.

your most recent work is the antithesis of all that is "awsome"
:bleh: x_x

As others have pointed out, your music seems a bit, umm...Chaotic and disorganized. It sounds kind of random like you just took a bunch of sounds in the same key that you liked and threw them together without much thought or revision. Really, I can't find a melody in most of your stuff.

I have a challenge that I think might be good for you; Try composing a short melody, but ONLY a melody. Only one instrument, no left hand piano harmony, but only a melody. Post it here and THEN after some advice compose the harmony.

This of course is only a suggestion, but I very well think it may help you to sound more organized and "cleaner" in your songs. There's not really an order or way to specifically compose, but again, I think writing just the melody and posting it should help you out. (Sorry if none of that made sense, I'm tired. XD)

Ok Ill give it a try Blazing Dragon

I'm sorry, but that isn't really a melody I don't think, but more so a "motif" that could be used every now and then. The melody is the main theme of the song and really drives it. It is what is memorable to the listener.

Here, I'll show you an example now. If you've ever played the PlayStation RPG Final Fantasy IX, you are most likely to be familiar with this song. It is called "Melodies of Life" and it has a great melody line, IMO. The melody is just the right hand and it is the main theme of the song. Listen to the file I attached (Called "Melody for Melodies of Life), that is the melody (I think. :P I did that in a hurry by memory)

Now listen to the to the other one called "harmony. That one has a added left hand (Though it is a REALLY bad one. Sorry, but I am really tired and I did that in less than two minutes. >.< )

That is the harmony, what accompanies the song and helps give it a little more emotion and life.

The file you attached to your post is only two seconds and I know you can do better than that! :D Just take it easy. A melody should be memorable to the listener and fun. You can throw in something like that two second motif you posted every now and then in your song, but let your melody do most of the work. :)

(Sorry if I'm not making sense or anything, but again, I'm kind of tired right now.x_x )

Ok ill try again. But im still working ont the harmony part.

Not bad, it is better than the first one IMO. :) It is kind of short though and some of the notes don't really flow as well as they could, but it is an improvement.

BTW, what do you use to compose? Do you compose at an instrument or do you only use the computer? (Just wondering is all)

I think it doesn't really flow. :think: