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Milchh
June 5th, 2006, 03:50 pm
I'm Back!

Hey everyone, decided since Summer is coming that I'd come back on the forums! I have some new compositions, and will be making new ones in the mean time, too.

Here's to start off the new topic!

First attempt on an easy Sonata. "Litte-Sonate" (Little Sonata) Here's the First movment. I do not care about the structure of the piece, but I do change the last A theme into a C Major Key, instead of the G Major (Starting Key).

Anyway, here's the Sheet Music (MUS). And the Recording (WMA).

Milchh
June 5th, 2006, 04:05 pm
Another one,

Prelude for Orchestra in C Major "Morning" (Dedicated to Mother)

Was composed (Impromptu) for Mother's Day, in which I dedicated it to my mom. It repeats a little much, but I think it fits in nicely.

I tried doing the same thing with the Glockenspiel, Flute and Harp, doing the same thing every measure, or every two measures.

Comments please on this and the Sonata's First Movment!

Milchh
June 5th, 2006, 04:50 pm
Ok probably one of my best transcriptions/arrangemnts for piano: Zelda's Lulluby.

I only made a .wma of it in my old topic (Maestro's Compositions ~ 2). But have recently made a .MUS file for the sheet music.

Here's the .MUS and the .mp3.

Enjoy.

evafreek576
June 5th, 2006, 04:51 pm
the sonata is....simple(in a good way).sounds kind of like the one mozart piece he wrote when he was 7, i think....

EDIT:thnx for posting the Zelda's Lullaby music:)

Milchh
June 5th, 2006, 04:59 pm
Yes, the sonata is to be interpreted as a type of Haydn or Mozart style of Sonata, but it is not Mozarts'.

evafreek576
June 5th, 2006, 05:01 pm
Yes, the sonata is to be interpreted as a type of Haydn or Mozart style of Sonata, but it is not Mozarts'.

I didn't say it WAS mozarts, i said it was SIMILAR. (if that's what you meant)

Milchh
June 5th, 2006, 05:12 pm
Nope. ^_^

Noir7
June 5th, 2006, 05:26 pm
I wasn't too fond of your Sonata. I don't know what a sonata form is so I won't judge you on that area, but the music itself was too shallow for my taste (maybe that was your intention, with the "little sonata"). I would rather liked the last section to have both themes somehow blended together (from A and B ) to give it even more unity. Also, the measures 48-54 seemed weird with the long trills.

Your morning song was easy to listen to since the mood reflected the title instantly. The subtle bass was a nice toutch, but the glock got repetitious :/ In form, this song was too static.

Milchh
June 5th, 2006, 05:28 pm
Thank-you for the comments. Taken.

BlazingDragon
June 5th, 2006, 06:14 pm
I have to tell you that you scared the crap out of me when I saw the title "Morning II", because I have a song in my thread called, "Morning 2".:heh: (Though my music isn't good enough to steal in any case.:P )

As for the morning piece, it was alright. It was too simple and predictable though. There wasn't enough variety in my opinion, nothing seemed to stick out a whole lot. The main thing that bothered me though was that I couldn't find a melody that stuck out a whole lot, and at some points the repeating Glockenspiel felt a little repetitive. There was some nice orchestration though and I enjoyed some parts. Some of the chords were nice too, but nothing that really jumped out at me.

Not bad, but not great either. The best word that comes to mind is, "empty" I guess, meaning it is there in the background and easy to listen to, but nothing really sticks out and says to the listener, "Hey, listen to me!" It was good though. You definitely have potential there, you just need to keep striving for perfection to reach it.

Noir7
June 5th, 2006, 06:21 pm
Don't worry Maestro. I know you have a passion for composing, and I'm sure you'll reach any goal you have set. Just give it some time.

Sometimes, a strong passion is all that is required. The rest will come to ya ~

Milchh
June 5th, 2006, 06:46 pm
Thanks. And "Morning II" is just Morning. It just has the reverb in it LoL!

Anyway, I know I have a gigantic passion for composing just need to start composing "more" over the summer when that's all I can think about, and not school.

I'm thinking about going back to Preludes and Etudes again, since that's more of my Forte.

Noir7
June 5th, 2006, 07:12 pm
Why not try an aria? I think it would fit your style a bit - yet I've not seen any vocal pieces from you.

Milchh
June 5th, 2006, 11:09 pm
(Aria? Please explain that hehe.)

I can write modern melodies and rythms as well. I am a horrible singer and since I am young it'd be hard for people to take my lyrics seriously (if they were serious which I usualy 'am).

But I could try.

Noir7
June 5th, 2006, 11:25 pm
Well erm.. and aria is a melodic piece written for a solo singer. The accompaniment could be any type though, I think ^_^

Al
June 6th, 2006, 01:18 am
'Sonatina' essentially means the same as 'little sonata', so you could use that term instead if you want. But I have to be nit-picky about your use of 'scherzo' (look up Beethoven's scherzos) and 'allegro' (felt like moderato to me).

Milchh
June 6th, 2006, 02:20 am
@AL - Right, well I have been commented by other people with little Scherzos I've written in the past, but I don't pay attention. But the Allegro is Allegro.

@Noir - I'll have to try that! I have been obliged to make a type of soloist singer with an orchestral (just strings) accomp. but never really learned how to but it into forms-don't usually listen to those types of compositions though I will now.

EDIT : http://www.music.vt.edu/musicdictionary/texta/Aria.html This URL has the definition. I'll check out the songs later. And now that I've seen it's definition in true text, it does seem to suit me in my styles of cheesy-over-dramatic types of pieces, but not literally "cheesy" hehe!

deathraider
June 6th, 2006, 04:32 am
My favorite Aria is the Queen of the Night Aria from Mozart's Magic Flute (I don't know the German name, sorry!). And about Sonatinas, I'm playing the Khatchaturian Sonatina (Khatchaturian is the composer), and it's as long as a fairly lengthy sonata, so how does that work? Does it matter that much?

tanonev
June 6th, 2006, 05:50 am
Sorry, but I'm gonna side with Al on this one. The tempo is moderato at most, possibly andante. I think this effect has something to do with the employment of Alberti bass, though I'm not sure how you would work around it.

I believe you're the first person I've ever seen to self-annotate (and self-quote, for that matter...well, Freud did that too, but I have a similar bone to pick with Freud) :P And I think you're underestimating your potential audience with those annotations...

And I'm a little uneasy with this combination of classical themes/harmonies with laxity in regards to structure...rules should only be broken if there is a very good reason for doing so, i.e., the resulting effect is so astounding that no one notices or cares that the piece they're listening to broke convention...

Nice work overall though :)

Milchh
June 6th, 2006, 11:53 am
My Reason for no forms:

I'm not into my serious stuff yet, kind of playing around atm.

If I wanted to write something in form and perfect it, It'd be like a piece I'd want to publish other than have it here :shifty: .

(Not to be taken rude/braggish) But the Ship VOyage for Example.

Meer
June 6th, 2006, 07:58 pm
Didn't Archangel plan on having one of his songs published or somethin' along those lines? :mellow:

He was given some good critiscm. Regardless of how perfect you think something is, it could/can always be improved. Why don't you share your grand Ship Voyage with us? :mellow:

Milchh
June 6th, 2006, 10:58 pm
http://forums.ichigos.com/showpost.php?p=258876&postcount=19


Touche' .

And no, I know this can STILL be improved, just I mainly was Arranging for the difficulties, timewise (which is perfect timewise) and wanted the themes to come out. Just some other things that I could improve on when (hopefully) when I get my M.T. tutoring this summer.

The Band teacher said I use the same note a lot, but on different instrument pitches. He says use more chords to make it "boom" or to make it sound more "full." But don't do like a C-Eb-G-C combo with low instruments (and I knew this) or it'd all mash like on the piano.

Milchh
June 6th, 2006, 11:30 pm
I'm gonna be mean to the Admins and double post. So.. HAH! *Ban Maestro~* Rofl..

~~~~~

heh ^

Anyway, I'll just upload for people to comment on , on what they think about this piece, before I will rewrite it and make it as good as (or better!) as my Ship Voyage.. since thats like one of the few things of mine that I consider acceptable.. and I think the same with the potential of this (just speaking my mind, not being braggish or w/e). This was also like the last I posted before I left, other than that short Poslude.


EDIT : Wonder if I should edit this into an Aria!?

Milchh
June 10th, 2006, 05:18 am
Sneak preview of the first piano part inroduction of the Romance.

deathraider
June 10th, 2006, 06:37 am
Well, you've got your chord progression started well, but there's no melody there.

Noir7
June 10th, 2006, 01:35 pm
He did say it was just the introduction of the piece.

BlazingDragon
June 10th, 2006, 05:10 pm
Not bad so far, I can imagine some interesting melodic phrases coming out of it. Just finish it now! :P

Milchh
June 11th, 2006, 09:16 pm
Here's just the intreoduction (STILL!) but with some modifications. Thx so far for comments.

But I am thinking of coming in with the main theme preety much-but I am still editing the introduction to the Romance.

Milchh
June 14th, 2006, 04:13 pm
Ok guys. Kind of stuck on composing my other stuff-so I need to get the LISZT CHOPIN and BEETHOVEN out of me.. Make room for Tchaikovsky's love themes and such.

~~~

Here's a cruddy improvation of mine-I miss A LOT of notes, in which I usually hit them all when I am flying like a madman/crazy person with the octaves.

Mainly, just an improvation to get my anger and frustration that I have left over.

~~~

ENJOY. Comments are cool :P

Btw, it's like 8min worth of music in 3 mb-so don't bash the quality.

OTHER : I mainly knew the melody for that melody of chords in the first "big" part. Everything else was made up-I think it sounds OK.

EDIT : The ending sucks. I hate doing those chords in Eb Major.

Milchh
June 16th, 2006, 05:43 pm
Rough draft on an etude i am making-and hoping to finish today.

Just what I got on SO far.

pianomanec
June 16th, 2006, 06:25 pm
wow! ur compositions are full of alot of passion. I really like vengence and your etude, very dramatic. I also like how u usually have a segment of intensity followed by a more lyrical line, and u developed ur cakewalk very nicely. I didn't really like ur little sonata/ sonatina cuz i felt it didnt really capture the listener (maybe go back and revise? just a suggestion).

Milchh
June 16th, 2006, 10:02 pm
Thanks for the comments. (And the Vengence was an Improvisation, not an actual piece, but thanks anyway. Critiques my playing).

Yea, the litle-sonate was almost (looking back) a kind of joke.

I MIGHT revise that movment.

Noir7
June 16th, 2006, 10:16 pm
Maestro, the structure and discipline which is seen in your sonatina is great, but there's no heart in it. I wouldn't think of it as a joke.

Milchh
June 18th, 2006, 04:37 am
This is what I am thinking of entering for the contest, but it isn't just all for that.

It's for expierence for Aria's and this is very personal lyric writing here. Please to not take it as cheesy, but as emotional.

This is the Intro, Verse 1, and Refrain 1.

EDIT : I have a Flute substituted for the Voice Solo.

Sepharite
June 18th, 2006, 05:18 am
Lol. But it is cheesy! XD

But I like it. Good clean melody and harmonies... keep it up!

Noir7
June 18th, 2006, 02:18 pm
*Claps*

It's so wonderful seing members grown as musicians over time. Maestro, this is a great advancement for you. The verse and the refrain are well balanced, and the piano parts are well written.

evafreek576
June 18th, 2006, 04:38 pm
AMAZING!
whoah......
the words were a little cheesy, though:sweat:

Milchh
June 18th, 2006, 05:55 pm
*Claps*

It's so wonderful seing members grown as musicians over time. Maestro, this is a great advancement for you. The verse and the refrain are well balanced, and the piano parts are well written.

Thanks. Honor to have a great comment like that. :lol:

@Seph/Eva - Thx... CHEESY I SAY NOT. :bleh:

EDIT : Yea, maybe this kind of neo-romantic or modern styled Aria's MIGHT be my style, or a forte.

Milchh
June 23rd, 2006, 06:39 pm
Just a little melody that has been in my head for a few weeks. It's a little personal.

http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.php?get=816240095.wma

Sepharite
June 23rd, 2006, 07:13 pm
It's gorgeous. I can't wait to hear what you can do with it ;)

Milchh
June 23rd, 2006, 08:04 pm
Thanks Seph.

I am thinking about making an Orchestral Arrangement of it, and doing a Theme and Variations on it. Just a thought.

Milchh
June 24th, 2006, 06:36 am
Ok, so I've finally started my nocturne set, from "Les Nocturnes d'Amour" (The Nocturnes of Love).

Anyway, this is what I have SO FAR done with it.

*I noticed this before Alfonso de Sabios post of his Nocturne-it kind of has a similarity to it when it gets past the introductory-episode and into the 'main-section.'

Just tinker on it, anyone. Then post comments on what it sounds like so far.

*This will be the only one I will post of (pushing for 6) the Nocturnes.

Noir7
June 24th, 2006, 09:37 am
Um you forgot the MIDI :lol: I scanned it for you

evafreek576
June 24th, 2006, 02:38 pm
printing it off to play right now:D ill edit this post for what i think of the song after i play it:)

EDIT: BEAUTIFUL, Maestro!
only one you will post?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Milchh
June 24th, 2006, 03:50 pm
It's lovestruck inspiration man. :P Something I want 'her' to hear first when it's all completed, but this is the only one I'll post when it's completely finished.

EDIT : Thanks Noir! Hey, the MIDI sounds weird lol-Like it's not the right notes playing. Oh well, this give the slightest idea about it.

Mainly, didn't have a MIDI, because this is supposted to be played with the upmost expression and passion for the love of music.

Noir7
June 24th, 2006, 05:46 pm
Ah yeah I figured it would sound weird. I used a weird program which reads a PDF file and turns it automatically to a MIDI/Mus/Sib file XD

evafreek576
June 24th, 2006, 05:57 pm
Maestro, i recorded myself playing the piece:)
here's a mp3:lol:
pretty slow, but not many mistakes that way;)

EDIT: Maestro, if you are going to enter your aria into the contest, i MIGHT be able to record it for you. if i can get my sister to sing(she has a beautiful voice) i will record it for you ;)

Milchh
June 24th, 2006, 06:54 pm
Hey, it's cool when other people play your compositions. Did an OK job on it. I can hear that it's lining up the octaves (?) that are a little difficult? Anyway, I like your touch on it, very nice. :lol:

Also, about the recording-I'd rather (if I am) myself record it. It's just such a personal song, I'd like the first reording of it to be done by myself. Playing it and singing it. Thanks for the offer though. Also kind of meant to be a male voice for the part. The range I don't really care about.

evafreek576
June 24th, 2006, 07:04 pm
I would like to retract my statement of the lyrics being cheesy. I re-read the lyrics, and I see your heart was in them. I am sorry for being naiive.

EDIT: for a recording i could do, i probably would sing it. i find it hard to sing and play, though:sweat:

Milchh
June 24th, 2006, 08:01 pm
Same. I was thinking separte when I was writing the lyrics and the piano part with it. (And thanks for the lyric take back. I am glad that someone thinks beyond the surface.)

So when (if) I record it, I am making two separate audio tracks-Voice and then the Piano audio behind it.

Milchh
June 25th, 2006, 06:04 am
Ok. I need some help.

I am done with the Nocturne, and wish to make a nice neat PDF file. Though, when I print-twoards the end, all my marks and notes all get shifted, overlaps and just looks medeorker.

Anyway I can stop this?

EDIT : Ok, I printed pages - 1,2,4,5 and 6. Here's the MUS file.

If someone could get PAGE 3 like it is on the MUS. Save it as a PDF, or print then scan it high quality and neatly. VERY MUCH APPRECIATED THEN.

Milchh
June 25th, 2006, 07:48 am
http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.php?get=1117933157.wma

True Nocturne. Played at 2:30 AM.

Egmont
June 25th, 2006, 12:36 pm
Listened to at 2:30 AM.

Seemingly random, disconnected chord changes in a slow, dragging pace, with no connecting melody or themes? Hm. It sounded somewhat like someone was warming up to play a song.

Noir7
June 25th, 2006, 03:00 pm
If you want cleaner professional scores, then Sibelius 4 is the program for you. About the composition:

It's hard for me to grasp the night feel in this one. The concept is almost identical to "Chevaliers de San'greal" from Da Vinci Code (composed by Hans Zimmer). The melody, the supporting arpeggios... very alike. I won't blame you for anything though, since it's a personal opinion of mine and I bet you haven't heard this song. Other than that I found it to be quite weak and flat. As the above poster said, it felt very disconnected.

evafreek576
June 25th, 2006, 04:41 pm
hmmm......since this is a multiple movement piece, this is about right for an introduction. nice job!
i will make a live recording of it soon as i get the new stuff down

EDIT:please either get a new piano or that one tuned! how old is it?!
anyway, you play really well for 2:30 am. Id probably fall asleep while playing:sweat:
EDIT2:here's your aria and the adante in .pdf:)

evafreek576
June 25th, 2006, 09:13 pm
full recording of andante
at http://www.supload.com/listen?s=S1Y9L9QBnrJ
sorry for double post :sweat: and bad recording ill get a better one tommorow:heh:

Milchh
June 26th, 2006, 05:29 am
Ok.. need a little morale here.

Here's how far I got on Aria now. Just added verse and refrain 2. Going into development section.

EDIT : I should study my own music now to give supports to critiques (I am not upset thogugh, happy that you at least gave feedback. Rarely anyone give feedback, pos or neg.)

Here's my report on that Adante:

Studying: Adante from "Les Nocturnes d'Adour" (Seth King-Gengler)

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Tempo - 96 BPM (Quarter)
Key - D (F#, C#)
Time Signature - Common Time (4/4)
Song Type - Nocture/Notturno
Measures - 126
Average Time Playing - 7-8 Mins.
Difficulty - Medium
Style - Impressionest/Classical Eras

~~~

-Does this piece follow rules of a Nocturne? -Yes
1. A composition, usually a serenade, to be played at night in the open air.
2. The name "nocturne" has been used by composers for piano and orchestral pieces that suggest some aspect of the night and are usually solemn and contemplative.

-Does the Tempo 'Adante' correct? -Yes (96 beats per minute)
1. A moderate tempo marking between Largo and Moderato.
2. A movement written in a moderately slow tempo, frequently the second movement of a larger composition. This tempo has between 76 and 108 beats per minute.

-Does this piece follow rules? How? (Support) -Yes
Lecture:

Though this piece does not have a very open melody, the melody is to be found with the chord progression, and the single notes in the beginning. The chords progression repeats on the second page when the main key turn into D-Flat Major, and ending in an A scale going up the keys. Then the second part of the Nocturne (Fantasy) begins with a simple note change in the chord. This same change happenens three times and ends with a dissonant chord (F, Ab, B, D). This same part repeats, and slowly goes through an Episode and back into the main theme (A section) once more. The piece then transcends into it's Coda (ending) section. The same chords are struck at different octaves, leading up to a 'brillante' chord twoards the end. The piece then falls back into it's sleeping stage for the end.

EDIT (2) - I'll also post a higher quality version and better playing of the Adante. Trust me-just got done with that composition and played it. Worked on it for HOURS and played it at 2:30 with clammy hands and the more tiredest body and mind.

Then it'l sound a little better. HOPEFULLY.

evafreek576
June 26th, 2006, 12:45 pm
so....how was my recording?

Milchh
June 26th, 2006, 05:35 pm
A little slow hehe.

I'd take the time so that you don't stop every time you change the chord. And expecially the B part when the left hand goes like half way up the piano-really make that quick change.

See my recording for reference-although it's a sucky playing of it.

Sepharite
June 26th, 2006, 07:13 pm
Ugh you slaughtered Maetro's Nocturne... at least try to learn the notes before playing ;)

Anways, I like it. It's very simple but interesting (well, to me). Some of the chord changes sound a bit weird, especially the ones down a chromatic scale.

Mind if I record it, Maestro for fun? I'm bored ._.

evafreek576
June 26th, 2006, 08:00 pm
Ugh you slaughtered Maetro's Nocturne... at least try to learn the notes before playing ;)

most of my notes were right..:( ....my hesitating was for a little something called "expression". ever heard of it, sepharite?:bleh: jk jk;)(most of my notes were right, though, and the slows and stops were for expression)
anyway, here is an up-to-tempo recording. its a little sloppier than the last one.
im going to make another one soon. the printout had some wrong 8vasx_x. hope it will be the best one yet:P
anyway, my newest: http://www.supload.com/listen?s=SVE8yyBIeSZ

Milchh
June 26th, 2006, 08:18 pm
Mind if I record it, Maestro for fun? I'm bored ._.


Sure, I don't care-just don't plagarise it. :lol:

EDIT : Yea, I am going to scan neater copies of the Nocturne-so you don't have to worry. I'll do that in the next 20 mins or so.

evafreek576
June 26th, 2006, 08:45 pm
it wasn't the file, it was the printing...the .mus file was fine, the print from it was weird....hand-edited the 8vas so the next recording should be right..

Sepharite
June 26th, 2006, 09:24 pm
If it was for expression, you kinda over did it a little ;) But no harm, your newer recording was a little better -- some of the hesitations are iffy for my taste.

Milchh
June 26th, 2006, 10:21 pm
Ok. gotta scan them-sorry. :heh:

I got them so they all aren't shifted or w/e-just need to print.

Milchh
July 1st, 2006, 06:16 am
Just some tracks in my Game.

Song of Sealing is a shortened version of the real song. It just plays in a part of the introduction-why it's short. It's also one of the songs that the game and story revoles around.

An intro song (title screen)

and a 'Scene' for piano and two flutes. Just for any sad/happy/memory ocasion.

Alfonso de Sabio
July 1st, 2006, 11:48 am
Scene1
This would definitely work in a game. I liked the counterpoint you had, but I think more of it, and more flourid counterpoint would help out a lot.

Song of Sealing
I'm a fan of this. I like the booming piano. You picked a good theme for the main theme.

Title
I like it. It's intriguing, which is perfect for the opening of a game.

The only major advice I have for these would be to make the melodies more memorable. People want haunting music that's going to stick in their head for the rest of their life.

Milchh
July 1st, 2006, 04:58 pm
Yea, I know what you mean. I.E. Zelda. :heh:

But yea, I'll try to work on it to be more 'appealing' or just something that sounds to awesome that it'l be like-omg it's in my head.

Heh.

Marlon
July 1st, 2006, 09:02 pm
The only one I didn't really like that much was "Title." The other two were really good, though I'm sure you could've made "Song of Sealing" a little more interesting. ;)

These are great songs! :P

PorscheGTIII
July 1st, 2006, 09:08 pm
Yeah, I couldn't have really said it better myself. These need to be more appealing to the listener. These are awesome things you have written, don't get me wrong, and they would work perfect in a game, but they are just not one of those songs that make me say "DAM IT! GET OUT OF MY HEAD!" :lol:

Milchh
July 2nd, 2006, 04:14 am
Hmm.. read my post holding the songs better.

It's Song of Sealing SHORT, it's just a fragment of the real version.

The Title is just where it says 'New Game, Load Game, Leave' Lol, and that's it.

Milchh
July 6th, 2006, 06:35 am
Cello and Rhodes Eletric Piano duet.

I know, sounds unlikely, but it makes a good match up really.

This is just a draft of the Exposition of the song. Enjoy, and

COMMENTS PLEASE!

evafreek576
July 6th, 2006, 02:15 pm
turn down the piano, if possible. otherwise, great. haunting.....:ghost: XD

Marlon
July 6th, 2006, 05:48 pm
The idea is interesting, indeed. :) I liked it. It could use some work in some places, but other than that, it's very unique! ^_^ Good job.

Milchh
July 6th, 2006, 05:51 pm
Well, the instruments are unique eh?

Actually, I got the idea to use these from Keith Jarrett. (The best Jazz composer OF ALL TIME ^.^ ) He has a song named 'Book of Ways #9' and it features a Rhodes Eletric Piano accomp. and Violin solo.

Now, I am not stealing his song idea, just the way he uses Modern and old instruments in this piece. But yea, it's very unique-AND UNHEARD OF :heh:

Noir7
July 6th, 2006, 10:32 pm
I like the blending of old and new instruments. It reminds me of Angelo Badalamenti (one of my favourite film composers...). Anyone remember his haunting main theme from "Twin Peaks"?

yellowmonkey121
July 12th, 2006, 09:53 pm
it's not really a haunting song but rather a "troubled little girl walking down an empty bridge with her scarf covering her mouth" song. lol. Well... I liked it a lot. It's quite different and that's one of the things I look for. I've listened to some of the other songs in this composition thread and yet.. this is the only thing I can really comment on.

Milchh
July 13th, 2006, 01:54 am
Hey, some people like different things.

Also, I've been having stumps in my composing lately. Like, I have a shit load of ideas, just too lazy to work them out-ya know?

Milchh
July 13th, 2006, 06:26 am
A Melody and chord progression that has been going through my head for quite some time. Finally 'am putting it to good use-in a 'Scene.' (Which is much like a Prelude, but a little different).

Enjoy.

Comments as well please.

EDIT - You can probably seem that I like those low notes, huh? Also, I am starting to actually use chords like Beethoven did. So simple, yet so fun to use. (I am not comparing this to Beethoven-or myslef for that matter-just saying with the repeating chords, it doesn't seem all so common in music - unless it's modern rock stuff or whatever)

Milchh
July 14th, 2006, 06:48 am
Comments as well please.

<_<

New piano piece. "Down the Path of Fate" is pretty much inspired by something tragic that is occuring in my life at the moment. My beloved Grandmother is slowly dying, and our family even knows it. She think she is going to Hell, but she is clouded from OCD and her guilt that whatever little thing which she has been forgiven for, she still thinks it's holding her back from going to God's Promised Land.

This makes me unbelivably depressed. She is slowly dying; low breathing. This song constricts me entirly, but ends up with the ending of an angel's.

Please listen and enjoy. And again,

Comments Please.

Sir_Dotdotdot
July 14th, 2006, 05:00 pm
Scene: :/ Nothing is really interested here, sorry... But a little critcism, at the end, the bass's grace note (or whatever) seems a little 'out of place'. Other than that, there's nothing wrong with it, it's just not interesting for my ears. :/

Down the Path of Fate: I liked how you developed your melodic idea, but it's kind of boring after you repeat the melody twice... Although, it doesn't necessarily mean it's bad, it's just a little disappointing, since the audience always wants some different after a while. Then at around 1:50, the rhythm is starting to drive me crazy because kept on repeating repeating and repeating, so yeah @_@. But I guess the repeating thing is preference issue, so yeah. Also, one more comment, you should link the really really last chord a lil better because it seems a little too popped out of nowhere. I really like the way you developed ideas though. ;)

Keep at it~!

Milchh
July 14th, 2006, 05:15 pm
Yea, I was wondering about that repeating thing as well. It was almost like a "Theme and Variations" piece as I portrayed it-but only like 1-2 variations :sweat: .

Anyway, THANK GOD FOR COMMENTERS.

Noir7
July 14th, 2006, 05:17 pm
I thought the "Down the path of Fate" song didn't reflect its title, so that kind of bummed me out ~_~ All that came to mind were scenes from Rurouni Kenshin (the song is very similiar to "Departure"), so it connected me more to anime-ish mood rather than a theme of fate-knocking-on-the-door.

Milchh
July 14th, 2006, 05:22 pm
Right. I don't know if this was plagarized. I get themes or songs in my head that remind me of other songs-or maybe I misinterpreted what you meant, just the feel.

Well, mainly the theme and progression (namely the triplet chords in the middle/end) was going through my head when I knew that my Grandma' was dying. I'll probably revise it later, but for now I had to get all that was out. x_x

KaitouKudou
July 14th, 2006, 05:29 pm
Largo was very pretty, I was sort of waiting for a recapitulation of your first theme at the end before you ended with the chord though, maybe some leading appegios toward it? I dunno, that's just my opinion.

Down the Path of Fate got a bit repetative for me but I still liked it. I wish I thought of that melody, I've been trying to make something like it recently ahaha.

Milchh
July 14th, 2006, 05:38 pm
Well, looking at the song, it seems my inspiration was Iron Maiden-like. :sweat:

Anyway, it seems a 'little' easy to come up with Anime-ish song melodies. I had the melody (obviously) yesterday, and spent like 1 1/2 hours figuring out a good chord progression. And, the only parts where I would think as repeditive is at :55 to 1:00 with the chords punding in the moment of 'suckion' and possibly when the Main Theme is being played with the accented octaves and the note closing the chord in the two beats. But it might be also kept as repeditive since no real dynamics, just RITs. Also, it only seemed to have 2 (repeated) 'slow themes'. Yea, I can pick out the parts now.

*Like I said before, this was just what I wanted to get out for the time being. I WILL revise it later and add a lot more to it. It seems something with a lot of potential (I think).

Al
July 15th, 2006, 05:17 am
The emotions are there, I can feel it. I like how it starts off slow, and then speeds up as her fate approaches. But I also like how you ended the piece in a manner that says you still have hope. Aside from that, the repetition issue has already been addressed, so I don't have anything else to say.

Milchh
July 15th, 2006, 05:24 am
Hey, cool someone felt what I was conveying. Thanks for the comment, and I am glad you portayed it.

evafreek576
July 17th, 2006, 07:17 pm
Largo-hmmm.......didn't really like it. seemed a little....uninteresting
Down the Path-it did sound like departure....really nice piece.

Milchh
July 19th, 2006, 06:52 pm
Some of you might remember this old theme I had a while back..

Anyway, first remade it into a piano prelude, and now wanting to make it (complete) with a cello solo and the piano the accomp with the 16ths and such.

Was first entitled, "Fall" then I have changed it to "Crystal Skies"

This is a draft of it, and it WILL be complete in a short matter of time.

Sir_Dotdotdot
July 19th, 2006, 07:04 pm
Interesting idea~. Although the piano accompaniment get's a little rusty after a while, it did convey the atmosphere... But a huge suggestion is to get the cello one octave up, because you're making it play a cantabile-esque melody in its harsh, heavy and less sonorous register, where if you put it one octave higher the sound would come out much more delicate and sweet. :\

Milchh
July 19th, 2006, 09:55 pm
Well, is it possible to play those notes?

I don't care if it's hard, if it's playable it can be done.

Sir_Dotdotdot
July 19th, 2006, 10:17 pm
:heh: I think you misunderstood, I wasn't saying if it were hard or not, I'm just saying that the mood you're trying to convey doesnt fit that register... But yeah, if you insist and persist, as long as it isn't under a C below the bass staff, no, it's easy to play, just don't make a cello go over the staff too much (although the cello my The Giving Tree was waaaay high, but it's playable)... :whistle:

Al
July 20th, 2006, 02:26 am
I also thought the cello was too low, felt like it was straining to be heard. And although the piano accompaniment was nice, I felt that the piece was missing a bass or something to make it feel less 'transparent'. Then again, crystal skies are transparent, so . .

Milchh
July 20th, 2006, 05:47 am
Right. I might change the left hand to do a quiet octave or chord every few changes.

I also might change the 'range' on the cello. Since the original had a really low melody going, I kinda wanted to have that low almost 'untuned' kind of feeling, where it's a nice ambient-type note, much like the piece itself.

I am also expierementing with the phraise endings, so it might not go that low at times too.

Don't worry, your comments are really appreciated.

deathraider
July 20th, 2006, 04:57 pm
Sorry, I owe you a review. Here we go...

I didn't really have any big problems with the piece, and I do like the affect that you made with the low cello. The only thing I would say is that the chord around :58 seemed really out of place.

Milchh
July 30th, 2006, 03:13 am
Possibly my favorite Zelda song done by Kondo.

Here's my transcription/arrangement of 'Song of Healing' (This version is played inside the Clocktower)

Marlon
July 30th, 2006, 04:30 pm
Are you sure the strings in the background are that loud? :think: I'm not sure - they sound kinda "boomy." Otherwise, great job. I think you transcribed it perfectly. ;)

Milchh
July 30th, 2006, 10:01 pm
Yes, they are. ;) No seriously, they are that volume.

Thanks for the comment.

Milchh
July 31st, 2006, 04:23 am
Ok.

Two uploads.

My transposition of 'Oath to Order' from Majora's Mask,

and my Incomplete copy of my Rondo in C Minor "Zorn Valse No. 2" Which some of you may remember my first Zorn Valse.

(Zorn Valse = Originally must be in 3/4 time, but can actually change Time Signatures. The piece can, and must be, a somewhat repeditive piece that does not have to have an 'exact' theme with itself, but it must have some rymthic line to it then.)

Enjoy. Comments on both.

deathraider
July 31st, 2006, 04:43 am
Hahaha, Oath to Order! I accidentally ripped off the melody from that and made a song once...purely accidental, though.

evafreek576
July 31st, 2006, 03:16 pm
the rondo is really good! no faults i can hear!

Marlon
July 31st, 2006, 05:45 pm
Good job on those, Maestro! I hope to hear more from you. :P

KaitouKudou
July 31st, 2006, 06:22 pm
nice walts, its not finished yet though is it? I heard something in the end where it was going to continue to somewhere.

Milchh
July 31st, 2006, 07:56 pm
Yesa, I got a bit farther. And switches to 4/4 like in the first one :lol:

I am doing sort of what the Etude "Mazeppa" does, how it variates the theme throughout the piece.

Sir_Dotdotdot
July 31st, 2006, 08:34 pm
Nice job! ;) Since it's a piano piece, I couldn't go picky on you. :heh: But one little suggestion would be to have a better transition to link the 3/4 part to the 4/4 part. Wonderful job.

PS: Although it was nice, the melody sounds quite familiar... :think:

Milchh
July 31st, 2006, 08:58 pm
It might be 'similar' to something (I wouldn't know what) but it sure isn't plagarized lol.

Maybe it was in one of my improvations? Could be. Oh well, anyway if it was copied it wasn't intended AT ALL.

(Also I think I'll keep that transition since it seems pretty appropriate to the pattern of notes right before the 3/4 to 4/4 time change).

EDIT - It also seems pretty naturall to, it isn't all of a sudden OMG IT'S IN 4/4 AND IT SUCKSZ0RZ lol-anyway, thatnks for the concern, though the 4/4 back to 3/4 might need the work-maybe.

Marlon
August 1st, 2006, 02:49 am
I <3 this piece! Great job! :lol:

KaitouKudou
August 1st, 2006, 03:06 am
This song gives me a picture in my mind. I don't know what it is, there's definately a picture in my mind though haha. The melody sounds fimiliar to me too, can't quite grasp where though.

Nice work, keep it up!

Milchh
August 1st, 2006, 05:54 am
Ok, first FINISHED composition in about two months. I am still working on the Zorn Valse though, and I am positive I WILL get that done.

I was thinking of just random memories that I have recently been through, and this theme came up. It's also very Koji Kondo inspired, so it sounds a little like his style as well-but this is pretty original I would say.

It's very Irish and Modern/Classical, maybe?

Anyway, enjoy. Both files sound great in my decidion, but the .mp3 really brings the emotion out.

Enjoy. Comments also too-please.

EDIT - Actually, if you have the 10 extra seconds to download, listen to the .mp3 version. It sounds so much more 'fuller' and much, much more beautiful. If you didn't get the feeling or expression from the piece, listen to the .mp3-please. I just hope which ever one you listen to, you all will enjoy it. I am very high of this piece. :)

Noir7
August 1st, 2006, 11:41 am
The Postlude was nice, but the Zorn Valse reminded me too strongly of a piece in "Rhapsody in Rock". Anyway, try not to take yourself too seriously. Everytime you post a new composition you always say stuff like it's so emotional and that you're very high of all your work. You somehow remind me of Freud =P

Sepharite
August 1st, 2006, 01:56 pm
The postlude is very pretty... I like it a lot. Although the melody, I could pretty much predict where it was going - it was weird. Like I heard it before. Heh. Great work though... keep it up!

Milchh
August 1st, 2006, 04:01 pm
Freud eh? I've.. never.. heard of him.. :heh: I'll have to look into him then.

Thanks for the comment Seph-and yea the melody is a little predictable. Almost too simple?

EDIT - Wait, by chance, could you be referring to Sigmund Freud the physcologist or whatever?

Sir_Dotdotdot
August 1st, 2006, 04:22 pm
Hm... The postlude was interesting, the harp was used fine, but I have a question, did you double (by doubling, I don't necessarily mean doubling in unison, as in like doubling on intervals and etc...) the choir with the strings? Because it sounds overshadowed and heavy (which is not a nice thing for the choir, choirs are pretty usually by themselves). The melody instrument (pan flute or something) sounds too 'electronic' and bright for the background, but it's probably your sample's problem. Also, when you ended the phrase around 1:03, it felt too complete, you need to have a better transition, or a prolonging chord of some sort. Also, I agree with Sepharite, the melody is too predictable, it's not simple, it just seem 'overused' and typical... Which isn't necessarily a bad thing (many movie soundtracks does that :heh:) but it just sound somewhat unspecial to those who doesn't have average ears. Another suggestion would be to 'bring out' more middleground elements, from what I hear you just set up the background and foreground, you don't have enough 'middleground' subjects (i.e. countermelodies, rhymic ornaments, and etc...). Overall, the orchestration and other stuff aren't bad at all, just maybe fix up a little would bring this piece out a little more! ;)

Milchh
August 1st, 2006, 06:10 pm
Ok. Finally some good critique. The arrangement specialist? Yea, sure.

Anyway, I agreed with most (if not all) the things you suggested, and when I get the time I will work on those things. (Also, I would need to think of what I wanted to fill in those gaps, or chope 'em up).

Comment was very apprecianted Dotdotdot, thanks. ^.^

Marlon
August 1st, 2006, 06:35 pm
Yeah... Like Sir_Dotdotdot said, the "doubling," or whatever it's called, makes it sound really heavy. Overall, I liked this piece a lot. Very nice. :)

deathraider
August 1st, 2006, 11:44 pm
Hehe, not too bad. I don't really have anything to add to the above, but I do agree. It was kind of funny, because on my iTunes list it came right before this song that I wrote a LONG time ago that was really simple that had the same key and started on the same chord that yours ended on so it was really weird.

Sepharite
August 2nd, 2006, 12:29 am
Sure, it's a little simple... but still very pretty. :P

yousee
August 2nd, 2006, 08:27 pm
I liked it, but it was more or less the same throughout, there wasnt anything like a climax or some other change. But overall it was good.

Milchh
August 2nd, 2006, 10:15 pm
Yea, but remember it's a postlude-it doesn't always need a 'structure' to it really.

Milchh
August 7th, 2006, 05:08 am
No doubt, this is one of my favorite (if not, my #1 favourite) song of all the Zelda series. It's just so neat, and when I found out how to jib NoteWorthy (again) to get a drum staff, I took complete advantage of it. I just beat Stone Temple Tower (I'm replaying Majora's Mask, and trying to get EVERYTHING at the moment), and couldn't get this out of my head. Now that I transpose Kondo's Zelda work, I can finally write this one! :lol:

Enjoy my transcription/arrangement. Comments!

Milchh
August 10th, 2006, 05:01 am
Kinda fooled around, and got this. First 'rock' song-and now an excuse for a repeditive song throughout. It's a THEME, so consider it also a prelude.

Theme No. 5 (http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.php?get=1302263856.wma)

evafreek576
August 10th, 2006, 04:28 pm
neat piece
sounds a bit videogame-ish, like an old NES or SNES battle theme

Sepharite
August 10th, 2006, 04:32 pm
Oh god, the drum beats are SOOOOO ANNOYING! ><;; The syncopated BOP BOP BOP BOP.... *dies* Reminds me of those annoying kids slamming hammers, but instead slamming it on pieces of shit. ;)

No, but the piece itself is cool.

Marlon
August 10th, 2006, 10:06 pm
Hmmm... Lots of things could be worked on in the rock one. First, the drums could've been a lot better, but that comes with practice anyways. Also, I felt a rhythm guitar would've added a lot, as well as a bass. Also, the piano was rather useless, since all it did was play a bunch of chords, and it was usually the same one over and over again, as far as I could hear. XD A better chord progression, also, would've helped it sound a bit less repetitive. Not that repetition is a bad thing, hehe. Well, my favorite part has to be the section at around 01:18 (which also played near the end), it was really groovy! :lol: And I can hear your influence of Iron Maiden with those harmonies, eh?

Very good for a first rock song! :yes: Great job, and main thing to work on, in my opinion, would be the drums.

Milchh
August 10th, 2006, 11:37 pm
(Got my wish; critique on the Theme from Marlon :heh: )

Alright. I know the drums were pretty bad actually, since it's the first time I've written for them, but I am making my old song Down the Path of Fate with the rock instruments. And yea, I do love Iron Maiden's style of rock, since it is so original actually.

Also, I did have a bass in there, but the MIDI didn't make it loud enough, although it was written as fff. Anyway, Down the Path of Fate will be better written-I challenge you all that.

I have recearched what the drums, rhythm guitar and second guitar will do. Also the base and drum beat/patterns.

Milchh
August 13th, 2006, 08:54 pm
Down the Path of Fate - INCOMPLETE

Enjoy, some things I need to work out on this, and I need some time to work out the next few themes.

C&C.

evafreek576
August 14th, 2006, 04:21 pm
i like it....it sounds videogamish....hope you were trying for that
really good though:)

Sepharite
August 14th, 2006, 05:34 pm
Oh, I really really like the melody! And I really like the drums! Very nice job... man, you're creating a song every other day ._.;; You have so much inspiration. Where do you get all of it?

Btw, I like your name... although, I prefer your previous. ;) Maybe you should add a ~ to the end >_>

Milchh
August 14th, 2006, 05:51 pm
Mazeppa is fine Seph. Lol.

Anyway, this isn't really a 'new' song, you all remember 'Down the Path of Fate' from a few pages ago right? It's mainly that, but I am editing it and making a rondo instead-really structured. -.-

deathraider
August 15th, 2006, 03:52 am
It's different than a lot of stuff you've done, but it's good. I like it a lot. It sounds kind of like the music from a heroic scene in a FF game.

Milchh
August 15th, 2006, 04:16 am
Just to ask, how different? (J/w)

EDIT - In which ways?

Milchh
August 15th, 2006, 05:29 am
Starting to work on technical studies, and this is the first one.

Please note that these Studies are NOT etudes, so they do not have melodies, but more of an exercise.

Hope you can figure them out, they seriously work-well the ones I need to finish do also. ^_^

Noir7
August 15th, 2006, 03:34 pm
Chromatic insanity XD

Milchh
August 15th, 2006, 07:14 pm
Yea, it's fun to play it once you get it down too.

Milchh
August 17th, 2006, 06:48 am
New Technical Etude. Some theme I came up with months ago, and improvise on it every here and then.

This is what I have so far. Where it stops is where I go into the development of the Etude, so that'l be the hardest part of the piece that I plan.

Sepharite
August 17th, 2006, 07:00 am
That's pretty catchy... I like it very much. Near the end, I heard a hint of Pink Panther XD

Keep it up!

Marlon
August 19th, 2006, 02:41 am
Ooh, very nice. ^.^ Great job, sounds a lot like In the Hall of the Mountain King. XD (And it does sound like the Pink Panther at the end, as Seph said, LoL) Anyways, I personally think it was awesome! ^_^

Milchh
August 19th, 2006, 06:22 am
Just another Technical Study.

Yea, it's weird to listen to, since I made it kinda sound like two keys were goin' at once. Oddly, since it's in a weird harmony, it doesn't disturb perfect pitch. ;)

KaitouKudou
August 19th, 2006, 06:14 pm
Its definately a good warm up song for left hand:lol:

It took me a while to realize that you were Maestro lol.

Marlon
August 19th, 2006, 08:27 pm
Good job. I guess that's all I have to say. XD After all, it's not really a song, LoL.

Milchh
August 20th, 2006, 12:15 am
It took me a while to realize that you were Maestro lol.

Muahaha, probably did. :P

Milchh
August 20th, 2006, 01:03 am
Click below if you want to hear someone who was already pissed off, having a bad day, and was bored out of their mind's playing of the Third Movment of the Pathetique Sonata.

Hah... me.

Anyway, I am a lil' moody and bored. Haven't got anything else better to do. Did like 5 other recordings to this, and wow, this shit was the best of them. :heh:

Anyway, I had no obligation to concentrate at all, and this is probably the worst of my playing of this movment.

If you listen, you can total around 30ish mistakes in this.

If you do not have a trained ear, all you hear is AROUND 8-9.

If you want to, point some out-and yes, I know them all. Muaha.

Matt
August 22nd, 2006, 08:26 am
the Technical Etude No. 1 sounds like the variation of this one classical song... I forgot the name of it though. Anyway the song itself is good. :)

Milchh
August 22nd, 2006, 02:42 pm
Yea, that's one thing I was wondering aboot. I didn't know if it was something I've heard before, or just something that came from an improvation-although that's where I, myself, got it from.

Anyway, it wouldn't really matter, since I didn't say what the theme was, just a theme. :P

RD
August 23rd, 2006, 04:39 am
Technical Etude no.1 is magnificent. I love the melody and how its dance like and so lively.

I WUV YOU music.

Milchh
August 24th, 2006, 01:37 am
When I get a chance to work on it, I already got an idea for my Stamina Etude No. 2 in C Minor. :heh:

(OWNAGE! Had High School orientation tonight! Can't wait till next friday!)

~~~

Started on a Rondo the other night.

Got the theme down. Just gonna have 2 more themes then a development! (Just like the Rondo from the Pathetique x_x )

RD
August 24th, 2006, 01:41 am
The theme is nice, but I think you could do a bit better on the bass.

Sepharite
August 24th, 2006, 02:06 am
Pretty good. Can't wait till you finish it. =)

Noir7
August 24th, 2006, 07:10 am
It's not much you're giving us, but it's a solid start. How about continuing after that last F major chord and going to Bb minor, then to F minor to give it some contrast?

Milchh
August 24th, 2006, 04:42 pm
I might do that later on, Almost finished with my first theme after this.

It's really off my style, an early classical-almost Barooque (sp?) is the style I am forming it into.

That's actually a good idea for later on (development possibly). THanks for the suggestion.

RD
August 24th, 2006, 04:51 pm
Just one "o". Baroque.

I love the Baroque style. Bach, Paschbell, all my favorite composers were from that time... I should tell you how Baroque music is played according to my instructor.

Staccato's are more disconnected then a sharp, fast note. The ending parts of the song, be it at a repeat or the real end, are slow; poco a poco rit.

Just a friendly tip :P

Milchh
August 25th, 2006, 02:09 am
Here's the next theme, along with the A theme residing after (you can just stop it at that point).

Anyway, I might need to work on the Cellos doing that 8th note thing with all the chord progression, some of it seems a tad sloppy in some chords.

Sir_Dotdotdot
August 25th, 2006, 02:41 am
Early Classical style was never really my thing, but I still can comment on the orchestrations. :P First off, doubling the strings with the harpsichord was not quite a keen idea, that's because harpsichord has very low carrying power and does not support dynamics, so if this was perform live, the harpsichord wouldn't be heard. Secondly, maybe it's just MIDI, during your first theme, your bass parts are too drowning and deep compared to the rather light-hearted melody (your accompaniment sounded rather 'formal'), so perhaps lighten it up. For the horn, (as a side note) you should study further into natural horn because if you're into the classical era stuff, you should possibly study natural horns, trumpets and all that just because you will come across a lot of those stuff in the future and you should possibly apply it for your compositions as you're trying to convey the classical colour. Also around 1:17, the transition part was kind of weak, maybe tweak up on that modulation back to the F major part. Since it's MIDI, I can't really be anymore pickier unless you do a GPO/samples recording. But good job nonetheless, you really got the classicist feel here (although I'm not too fond of the classical stuff, I like late romantic/20th century and baroque stuff). ;) Good luck.

Milchh
August 25th, 2006, 03:18 am
Heh, alright-taken the comments and put them into perception.

What you said was somewhat true with the harpsichord's part. I might come back to this song then when I have better counter-point perception.

This is going into the archives.. along with about 40 other unfinished songs or ideas. :heh:

Noir7
August 25th, 2006, 02:01 pm
Although you should value Dotdot's comments more (especially the ones about orchestration) I have to say that i rather liked this idea of yours. My untrained ear hears nothing wrong with the orchestration at all, lol. Ah well, I tried using this concept of yours to sound more realistic, to hear a more valid result of the orchestration, if you don't mind of course. All the MIDI channels were set to "Tremolo Strings" so I kinda just went with my intuition.

Sir_Dotdotdot
August 25th, 2006, 03:29 pm
All the MIDI channels were set to "Tremolo Strings" so I kinda just went with my intuition.

Hm... I guess I know why it sounded so heavy... I guess you should change the MIDI patch back to the normal Strings 1 patch, and I guess that's one of the way to 'lighten' your piece up. :)

Milchh
August 25th, 2006, 05:00 pm
I like that a lot actually. When it has that more realistic (I do MIDI first, then when I'm at a substantial point, I add soundfonts) it actualyl sounds pretty good.

Anyway, I don't mind you playing around with it for now.

Milchh
August 25th, 2006, 06:23 pm
A little Melodic/Interlude I came up with while thinking of deserts and Mexico today.

Might be something I'll form into a song later on.

Marlon
August 25th, 2006, 08:21 pm
I don't know... Nothing really grabs my attention. It's not bad, but it's not really good either. Did that make any sense? :heh: Oh well. Anyways, I think if you work on it some more it might turn into something. ;) For now, it's just kinda "empty."

Sepharite
August 25th, 2006, 09:03 pm
It's not that bad, I like it! The chords are a little cliche but hey, sounds good! I hope that's not all though and just an intro >P.

Noir7
August 25th, 2006, 11:21 pm
Sounds like an introduction to a rock song, I could easily imagine drums kicking in at the end here and creating a totally different wibe. Perhaps add those "Whaa, whaaoo" guitar effects to simulate that desert feel.

Milchh
August 31st, 2006, 02:26 am
I need some morale. :\

Well, I haven't really been doing anything progressively, but have been transposing again. Started transposing this after hearing my brother playing Donkey Kong Country 2. The Enchanted Forest areas, entitled "Forest Interlude."

Great song, and if you've played DKC2, you'll absolutely remember this-no doubt.

Anyway, isn't finished-really busy at the moment, no time. @_@

Here it is so far, almost impromptu transcription.

Sir_Dotdotdot
August 31st, 2006, 02:30 am
=P Nothing much bugs me here in this transcription so far, except the bass chords sometimes sounds too overwhelming and looks painful to play... ;) Good job.

Milchh
August 31st, 2006, 02:35 am
Lol, yea the chords get the most getting used to, and same with those flute runs (the 16ths going up or down) in the piece.

The development section (next part) is what will give me trouble-can't find the right two chords in the same order, and the flute runs in the beginning of it are a little hard to figure out, which will take too much of my mind space up since school is starting now; this is one of the last things on my mind.

By the way, here's what I'm transposing this off from-great arrangement by some of the best transposers of Game music :

Marlon
September 3rd, 2006, 04:53 am
I like that arrangement! Great job! :)

Milchh
September 28th, 2006, 01:59 am
Well, still no Finale Program yet, but here's an Impromptu for Strings I am working on. Mainly for the competition. Just started this today.. Neo-Classical x_x

C&C So far.

hofodomo01
September 28th, 2006, 03:37 am
It's quite nice. You've definietly got a very workable theme, good job. Reminds a little bit of Zelda for some reason...

Milchh
September 28th, 2006, 11:44 am
Yea, I've stated it in the past; when I was playing and doing many Zelda transcriptions (I made more than I posted on here for sure) that Kondo style really rubbed off on me, especially his Zelda-Styles

Noir7
September 28th, 2006, 03:40 pm
You have a good theme in there, (the cello parts) but I don't think it comes through as clear as it should. Perhaps you could use this string orchestra, and then add a solo instrument to play the main melody, such as a solo cello, bassoon, or even a horn! :)

EDIT: Or even a small cymbal crescendo once the melody & bass come in?

Sir_Dotdotdot
September 28th, 2006, 07:32 pm
In the beginning, you doubled the viola a third over the cello, or something along that line. I'd suggest you to change it to sixth and tenth doubling, because the closer the notes are together, the more easily it can get out of tune. And yes, you can definitely add a soloist on top, like Noir suggested; but remember, the timbres of each instrument conveys a different message in various context.

Alfonso de Sabio
September 28th, 2006, 07:51 pm
I really like the pulsing in the violins throughout the piece. I think, though, that the work in full would benefit from another layer. Two people have proposed a soloist, but I think you could convert one of your intermediate "back-up" lines into something more spicy. Synchopated arpeggios are fun.... A soloist is also a great idea.

Milchh
September 29th, 2006, 12:58 am
I was thinking about 1 or 2 french horns in the piece as well before I posted this little update, but I might actually consider that now.

Milchh
October 5th, 2006, 02:30 am
New project:

March (No. 1) in C Major

Here's a rough draft of the introduction. Needs a lot of editing actually.

C&C on the 25 seconds. :lol: (Btw, this is usuing Finale, yay!)

Milchh
October 5th, 2006, 08:24 pm
Wait scratch the name. I've decided I'm making an orchstral rhapsodie. I have too many ideas, so I need something like a fantasie to compose, but I think in the thoughts of more like a Liszt-Rhapsodie. :heh:

Marlon
October 6th, 2006, 01:11 am
Ummm... well, with what you've given, I don't think I can honestly say if it's good or not. Nothing so far has caught my attention, but I'm sure it'll do something interesting right after. By the way, it reminds me of... Zelda, is it? Maybe.

Well, I can't wait to hear the rest! ^_^

Milchh
October 6th, 2006, 01:48 am
Yes, this is a very common progression that is found in Kondo's style (LoZ Composer) in which I am not plagarizing it (since it isn't his actually) I'm just continuing the greatness of chromatics! Well, the chromatic bridges and sections come later on. ;)

But yea, it's going really smooth now, and I'm taking my sweet-god-damned-time with it too. :lol:

KaitouKudou
October 7th, 2006, 08:02 am
There is something about your march intro that reminded me of Star Fox for N64. It was cool, almost astronomical...sweet... :)

Noir7
October 7th, 2006, 02:14 pm
Indeed a good start. Good work on the orchestration aswell, but you need to give us more than 20 secs in the future!

Milchh
October 7th, 2006, 04:09 pm
;) Lol, yeah.

When I get the first theme in the rhapsodie done, I'll present it on here. I'm really taking my time in revisions and orchestration this time--trying to make it oh so confident.

Milchh
October 20th, 2006, 01:37 am
Finaly usuing my trasposing and arranging [talents] expierence for my Iron Maiden stuff.

My all time favorite Maiden song: Caught Somewhere in Time. This is the first 1:30 of it, in a crappy MIDI form, but when I'm done I'll post the pdf.
This is just a little update for ya'll on what I'm doing.

Marlon
October 20th, 2006, 03:49 pm
So far so good, in my opinion. ;) Finish it! LoL.

Noir7
October 21st, 2006, 12:02 am
You should do Blood Brothers!

Milchh
October 25th, 2006, 07:40 pm
First completed composition in a long while.

Anyway, a fun Impromptu-Duet for Piano and Violin I made up today.

Enjoy, C&C are appreciated.

Sir_Dotdotdot
October 25th, 2006, 07:55 pm
Ah... It's so Beethoven-ish at certain times... Though it was not too attention grabbing... Except for that major sixth interval which I personally like a lot. The piano bass part is also a little too boring... Arppegios throughout... Make some solid chords or whatever... Ah yes, and did you use double stop, or is it two violins? Cos some of them sounds as if they were impossible. Oh, and to be a little tech-y on you, turn down the violin's volume a little, it's a little to shrill when it's playing loud. Good try. :P

Milchh
October 25th, 2006, 07:57 pm
No, it's one Lol. I thought it was called harmonics, when the note under the "regular" note is being played 3 full steaps down from that one.

And yes, this was a little odd piece, very simplistic, a very Beethoven-inspired style of song.

But, was I right about the harmonics on the violin or..

Sir_Dotdotdot
October 25th, 2006, 08:36 pm
Yeah, harmonics is correct, but you should check which harmonic you're using, touch fourth and etc... And I think you misinterpreted harmonics. Harmonics is only one note, not multiple, thus when you play a harmonic note, it will sound waaaaay up high, but still just one note.

Milchh
October 26th, 2006, 12:42 am
Here's the sheet music, check the last and 3rd pages.

Sir_Dotdotdot
October 26th, 2006, 01:06 am
Those are called double stops, not harmonics. Harmonics are notes with a circle on top. ._.

Milchh
October 26th, 2006, 01:08 am
Oh, alright--but that's playable right?

Sir_Dotdotdot
October 26th, 2006, 01:10 am
Yeah, pretty much, I've learned that as long as the interval is not as small as a tritone and large as a 10th, it should usually be playable.

Matt
October 29th, 2006, 10:46 pm
you have to know the tuning of the open strings (take the violin for instance, the strings are g,d,a,e) the notes of the double/triple/quadruple stop you want to perform have to be played on different strings, obviously. If you want to do a double stop you should keep in mind that it's easier for the performer when one of the strings is an open string and he doesn't have to finger both strings simultaneously. ^^

Noir7
November 19th, 2006, 10:52 pm
I want to complain a little towards your use of left hand here. It doesn't suit the song very well =( The song itself is quite fresh and open, and I liked that violin melody's opening parts, but I felt it could be a bit longer. Perhaps a C-section starting where the song ended?

Milchh
November 20th, 2006, 12:38 am
(Lol, late reply eh Noir)

But yea, like a development you mean?

Noir7
November 20th, 2006, 01:55 pm
Yeah.

KaitouKudou
November 26th, 2006, 12:27 am
First completed composition in a long while.

Anyway, a fun Impromptu-Duet for Piano and Violin I made up today.

Enjoy, C&C are appreciated.

Maybe it's the quality, there's something that doesn't stay well with me about the song but it was pretty good to listen to. The melody was nice. The feeling of a peaceful afternoon in fall was incorporated well.:)

Milchh
December 28th, 2006, 04:42 am
Something I've kinda put together. All I need to do is organize them together and also do a little developing on them too.

Just comment on it. Bleh--it's been so long, and I choose to upload this. Lol.

Sir_Dotdotdot
December 28th, 2006, 03:52 pm
Since it's an etude, I don't have much to say about the music itself. But I do have two comments; the parts where you suddenly change from a fortissimo to piano, you can write subito piano instead of just piano, it's clearer. And secondly, the second last octaves of the study could've been the dominant of C as it's more interesting.

Milchh
December 28th, 2006, 04:05 pm
Yeah, don't worry, this was just an impromptu of me running on sleep fumes, getting ideas down and it sounded good enough to post something on here. Lol.

I'm gonna work on it for a while though--it's fun making showoffy etudes. :heh:

deathraider
December 28th, 2006, 11:39 pm
I like it, yes. The chord progression is more interesting than I expected when I saw it was an etude. Good job.

KaitouKudou
December 29th, 2006, 11:07 pm
Its people like you who would succeed in publishing music in Canada. All your pieces can be considered "Educational Music" and the only thing that's allowed to be published here is these types of music lol

Milchh
December 30th, 2006, 03:16 am
Oh man, another reason for me to move to Canada when I get myself stocked up.

Lol. But hey, thanks for the "advice" / "compliment". :sweat:

Sir_Dotdotdot
December 30th, 2006, 03:21 am
Oh man, another reason for me to move to Canada when I get myself stocked up.



XD Two reasons you shouldn't move to Canada: 1) We have no musical culture. 2) Even if we do have music culture, it's all contemporary, atonal and whatnot.

Milchh
December 30th, 2006, 04:26 am
I'm into the "Debussy" and "experimental" contemparies, but TOO much atonal kills me.

What's in America? -- Nothing, exactly. It's all pop-culture stuff, and rarely do you even find composers of a more classical style. If you do, it's VERY rare. Now, I didn't mean I WAS going to move to Canada, but it was somewhere I was considering if the ol' USA didn't work out.

Lol, back on topic..

Silverflame
December 30th, 2006, 03:20 pm
Wow... Just heard the lastest comp and... that was really, really good!! ^_^ Loud, then really quiet, onlt to burst, but back down in a sudden. It was really nice. Keep up the great job!

Milchh
January 1st, 2007, 12:18 am
I'm back into OoT. So..

Enjoy / Comments.

Sir_Dotdotdot
January 1st, 2007, 12:26 am
Comment: At bar 9, 11, 21, and 23 the stems were weird. The higher notes should have the stems up and lower notes should have their stems down.

Milchh
January 1st, 2007, 02:14 am
Oh please dot, shut up. I hate when people critique sheet music (only you do that) and not the arrangement.

Sir_Dotdotdot
January 1st, 2007, 02:18 am
I'm sorry that you're offended, but I'm just trying to help. :mellow: The arrangement is fine, that's why I didn't say anything.

Milchh
January 1st, 2007, 02:44 am
I'm not offended, but the look of shete music doesn't both me at all--if you can read it, it's fine. Nothing else to it.

Just remember that when you comment on my arrangements/compositions sheets.

Noir7
January 1st, 2007, 04:19 pm
It's nicely arranged, almost too careful... The original songs of OoT have a sacred spot in my heart, so the original compositions will always be better than any arrangements.

Milchh
January 1st, 2007, 05:27 pm
Yeah, too bad I can't get a MIDI-Piano to give out a harp's sound.. :sweat:

Marlon
January 1st, 2007, 06:22 pm
Very good arrangement. Nice. :thumb:

Milchh
January 12th, 2007, 02:43 am
*Update*

Project : Independent Music Album

My new composition ideas have been almost flawless, and many which I want to publish when I (eventually) write them.

It might be months on one composition, or maybe a few days (some revision of course then).

I just feel very motivated this time to do a project since I've begun to get past my writer's block. ^_^

deathraider
January 14th, 2007, 07:40 pm
What the heck do you mean by "flawless?"

Milchh
January 14th, 2007, 08:08 pm
Like, revised so it sounds like it's really good--

Heh, you're no realist, eh?

deathraider
January 18th, 2007, 09:52 pm
Not sure what you're trying to say. I just don't think any piece can be totally flawless (although it definitely can be "theoretically").

BTW, your pieces ARE really good and really well organized. I'm not trying to say that they aren't. The word flawless just sounds SOOOOOOO cocky.

Milchh
January 19th, 2007, 12:46 am
Take it as a figure of speech--I hope you didn't think I see my compositions as godly; flawless definition..

RD
January 23rd, 2007, 05:32 am
This is really weird for so many reasons but I have started to fall in love with your Scene in D, Largo. The melody has stuck in my for a bit now. Yeah its old but its really nice and pretty.

Variation please? lol

Milchh
January 23rd, 2007, 11:58 am
Hey, good idea.

I'll improvise it at school today if I have any time. :sweat:

(And yeah, that's why I composed it; 'twas soo catchy when I first got it in me, had to write it down then...)

RD
January 23rd, 2007, 04:04 pm
eek lol your the masta. Composing at school.

I need my piano and computer with me to do that.... Ill call my mom to drop it off.

Milchh
January 24th, 2007, 01:08 am
Yeah, thugh it's mostly practicing and improvising for fun--I carry around a staff paper book, but haven't written in it since last October or something.. :heh:

We have a beautiful (I think 6-7 FT.) Kawaii at our school; great sounds, really--DEADLY REALLY--heavy tension on it though, hard to play any Chopin-styled pieces.

RD
January 24th, 2007, 01:43 am
Tehe tension. I like a piano to be slightly out of tune. It gives it more personality, softer touch and a fuzzy feel [lol]

our school has pianos too, but i cant just walk out of class and play it [i wish]...

sorry for the off topic.


What kind of song are you planning on writing with the theme?

Milchh
January 24th, 2007, 10:44 pm
I don't know..

I've had a few ideas for songs that I'm quite going to possibly write them for my album. They are pretty neat, very modern compared to my more 'traditional' stuff. :heh:

Sir_Dotdotdot
January 24th, 2007, 11:37 pm
Modern as in soundtrack/anime modern, or modern as in Stravinsky, Webern modern? Lol.

Milchh
January 26th, 2007, 01:14 am
Ah man.. How modern.. well, here's some influences-some stronger than others..

Debussy
Ravel
Shostakovich
Keith Jarret (Style of Piano solo)
Anime OST Influences
Koji Kondo -- Zelda OST Influences
My own! ^.^

EDIT -

Oh, and I guess Rachmaninoff has been giving me some of his virtuostic chords to look at too.. Lol..

deathraider
January 26th, 2007, 01:36 am
Edit: Sorry, off topic. Ignore this XD

Milchh
February 6th, 2007, 03:33 pm
Finally got some free time to write this down. :heh:

EDIT - This is more from the OST, so I didn't put any "repeat as nessasary" in it.

clarinetist
February 6th, 2007, 04:54 pm
Nice arrangement :) . I've played this game. Meas. 37-43 and 45-47; I don't remember those being quarter notes. Aren't they supposed to be longer? :think:

Milchh
February 6th, 2007, 05:00 pm
Oops, forgot to put 'con pedal' in the song. Lol, if I have that, then you left the pedeal every meseaure on the disired end and begin note.

Yeah it's longer, just in the OST the fiddle kinda fades after the first beat a little--probably why I only put a quarter.

Milchh
March 10th, 2007, 04:43 am
Ah, just something I've been working on the last couple of hours. I guess ya'll can comment on it if ya want, mainly if you like it; not a lot of technical stuff please, just kidna just getting an idea down. :heh:

PFK
March 10th, 2007, 10:16 am
I like it, nice chord progression, good melody. You build it up very well.
Just an idea: go with a major section after this section?

Question: What program are you using for composing and how do you notate those 'drum rolls'?

clarinetist
March 10th, 2007, 12:12 pm
Question: What program are you using for composing and how do you notate those 'drum rolls'?

I think I can answer this...

He uses Finale 2007. Drum rolls are notated using the "tremolo marking"; if you have Finale, it's found in the articulation tool.

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:think: I don't know why, but I think has a bit of "Zelda" in it.

Noir7
March 10th, 2007, 01:07 pm
Mazeppa! I really liked this piece so far. The winds play *just* the right notes to please my ears, and the strings come in exactly the right moment.

Milchh
March 10th, 2007, 02:42 pm
Cool more than two people actually replied after something I posted.

Alright it seems like I have a good review so far, I'll let ya'll in a little bit..

It doesn't have a title, but it's technical title (at least) is "Scenes for Orchestra."

It'l be a relatively long piece, and the piece has sections (this is the first/intro) to what I am interpreting into like a story but in one giant composition.

PFK
March 10th, 2007, 02:44 pm
I think I can answer this...

He uses Finale 2007. Drum rolls are notated using the "tremolo marking"; if you have Finale, it's found in the articulation tool.

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:think: I don't know why, but I think has a bit of "Zelda" in it.


Thanks :)
I know where the Tremolo marking can be found, but I didn't know it was used for those 'drum rolls'

Milchh
March 10th, 2007, 02:45 pm
The Three lines are good for rolls (the ones I used). The Two lines are good for "16th" rolls and the single line is usually an "8th Note" roll.

deathraider
March 10th, 2007, 04:00 pm
Sounds like a song from an army game/movie.

KaitouKudou
March 10th, 2007, 07:52 pm
Definately think you got something there. I loved that one! I'm VERY looking forward to seeing where you take that.

Snipes90
March 10th, 2007, 09:37 pm
I like it a lot,but, you can listen are not (I'm anyone special in music), I think you may be a little "roll heavy" on the snare. What I mean is that you may want to change up the roll after roll after roll part just a bit. I don't know what you could do with it, but I think even the slightest change from one roll to the next might help the part to move the music along better.

Milchh
March 11th, 2007, 12:11 am
(Couldn't understand your first sentence)

Snipes90, I am thankfull for your comment, but I will assure you that what you stated is wrong for this piece.

The rolls aren't overused, not at all, they are a good amount of them and used pretty well I might add. The snare shouldn't be the main instrument here, but one of the supporting ones. Overusuing a quiet roll is a lie in what I have posted actually.

You see, it is meant to keep the song flowing and remind you of a more grim march than a quick and brisk one that you usually think of. 16ths and 8ths in faster music, and different rythms are perfect for fast tempos, but rolls and symple patterns are the way to go in this slow march.

Hope you understand why rolls are used like this.

Snipes90
March 11th, 2007, 12:45 am
Thanks for clearing that up, I had not known that before. I may take musical theory at sometime, but for now I'll just remain slightly ignorant.

Milchh
March 13th, 2007, 02:21 am
Update : I won't post (unless asked) but I edited what I have posted and added some more. It almost seems like a symphony right now since I'm introducing different themes (my best actually of presenting them, Lol) but it'l still be more of a Scenes for Orchestra--one huge composition. :lol: