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Rodents210
June 26th, 2006, 02:40 am
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Sepharite
June 26th, 2006, 05:07 am
A composition thread without a composition!? Blasphemy!

Post some, please =)

Milchh
June 26th, 2006, 05:27 am
Well. Here's my Aria-In-progress for this month's Composition contest. JUST USE IT FOR REFENCE. IT's AN OROGINAL COMPOSITION BY MYSELF.

(I am glad I didn't start the development seciton yet. Then it gets good. :lol: )

(BTW : You need Finale / Finale NotePad or something that opens MUS files.)

Rodents210
June 26th, 2006, 04:31 pm
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Milchh
June 26th, 2006, 05:35 pm
Glad to help.

First try on a 'song' too.

Rodents210
June 26th, 2006, 09:44 pm
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Rodents210
July 1st, 2006, 12:42 am
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Marlon
July 1st, 2006, 02:36 am
Only 4 measures? XD

Anywho... it didn't really grab my attention. It kinda just: Whoosh! "I've only..." and it just starts. I would really suggest an intro... :unsure: And I think the harmonies can be worked on. The piano just doesn't seem to go too well with the vocal part, in my opinion. :think:

Rodents210
July 1st, 2006, 03:12 am
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Rodents210
July 3rd, 2006, 03:10 am
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Marlon
July 3rd, 2006, 09:08 pm
It sounds very... umm... childish? Anyways, I felt it was a bit too repetitive, and the piano wasn't interesting. The flute can be worked on a lot, too. Well, all in all, this could've been a lot better. I don't know, it just sounds like one of those songs you have to learn when you start playing the flute, kinda like "Mary Had a Little Lamb."

I think it should sound as meaningful as the lyrics. ;)

Rodents210
July 3rd, 2006, 09:38 pm
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Rodents210
July 4th, 2006, 04:54 am
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Marlon
July 4th, 2006, 05:47 pm
I think this Intro is better than the last. The melody of the flute isn't like "wow," but it's acceptable and not half-bad. The only part that I didn't really like was the piano. I think the harmonies were a little off sometimes. But I see what you're getting at.

Keep working on it just a bit. ;)

Rodents210
July 5th, 2006, 06:41 am
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Milchh
July 5th, 2006, 01:28 pm
Advanced critique....

Ok, mainly this composition just needs some 'expierence' into it. I would suggest listening to a lot of music and trying to disect it into pieces, and find the song out maybe! (Playing by ear)

Anyway, I listened and took apart songs long before I composed. Now, I may not be that good, but imagine if I didn't listen to all that then. :heh:

(Anyway, it might just be me, but the way my 'Perfect Pitch' works, is copying peoples styles)

Marlon
July 5th, 2006, 06:33 pm
I think the vocals could've sounded a bit more "natural."

Rodents210
July 5th, 2006, 07:05 pm
Marlon: What do you mean by that?

Marlon
July 5th, 2006, 07:08 pm
Kinda like... I don't know, I just feel like I wouldn't really hear that melody coming from someone like, you know, off the top of their head or something. I'm not that good at explaining myself... :unsure:

But hey, maybe when you add the piano to the vocals, maybe it'll sound better, I think. :) Don't worry, as you keep on adding to the song, it'll keep getting better.

EDIT: Also, on the beginning of measure 6, the harmonies don't seem to work. >.<

Sepharite
July 5th, 2006, 10:04 pm
I agree with the above guy (;)), the harmonies don't match with the melody in the beginning. You should experiment some more, see what you can come with. If not, use the common IV-V-I progressions if desperate =P

And the vocal section should flow more smoothly - more naturally, like the above guy mentioned. Because the melody jumps too much and seems all over the place.

Rodents210
August 10th, 2006, 06:35 pm
I'm abandoning Stars on the Rise until I can improve the melody and lyrics in my head. I have, however, begun a new composition entitled "Echoes of Rain." It's going to be dark piece, but at the beginning it's calm and tranquil. It may be renamed to "Echoes of the Tempest" if it comes to that. After the first set of runs, it was completely accidental. I was frustrated with finding a melody to follow so I clicked like crazy with eighths notes and it sounded good, so I erased the mess and it became this. Advanced Critique encouraged (though ignore the fact that the bass line is absent from the second part, because I don't think it's ready for harmony yet).

Marlon
August 10th, 2006, 09:33 pm
Well, first of all, I didn't feel a mood as I hear this (expect for that little thing at the end; that part sounded playful). Also, a melody should not be a scale going up and down (in my opinion, at least). x_x The song just doesn't make much sense to me, and nothing stuck in my head or hooked me in. Sounds a little bit random sometimes, too, but nothing too random. :think: Make patterns (not a cliche chord progression, but maybe something a little catchier) and give it more structure. Keep working on it. ;)

And I'm sorry if this sounds harsh or discouraging, but I'm only trying to help you become a better composer. ^_^

Sepharite
August 10th, 2006, 10:52 pm
Actually, Marlon, I disagree... maybe you should start with cliche, simple chord progressions and get used to harmonizing. And then, once you get the hang of it... simply get more complex =)

But I agree with Marlon with the rest. It was a little random...and a little annoying. =S

Keep practising!

Rodents210
August 10th, 2006, 11:50 pm
The melody was the "playful" part. It'll get better as the song progresses, and the runs will be common because it's what makes me feel what I'm trying to make the listener visualize.

This is kinda the theme I imagine when the main character in my novel is overtaken by the antagonist. The rain falls happily and then becomes an ominous, brewing storm, into a hurricane-like blitzkrieg.

Rodents210
August 11th, 2006, 04:36 am
Okay, so I'm thinking of removing that first part, and leving the playful part in with a 2/4 full-measure rest in the beginning. Then I'll open it up with a half-note chord, switch to 4/4, and begin from the part you liked. Sound like a good plan, or is there something else I should do?

Rodents210
October 31st, 2006, 01:43 am
I've moved on to another project. My friend decided to get really ambitious about writing a musical, so not onl have I done a lot with the script, but I've fit 3 songs into the musical so far. One is a somewhat famous piece named "O Magnum Mysterium."

The second is a song I'm writing entitled "I Got A Lead," which I can see right now will present me with a very, very, large obstacle to overcome. I've set that aside for now.

The third is the song I'm uploading right now. This song right now very well may be not only the simplest to compose in the musical, but also one of the best. I already like this song, even if the only things written are the string intro and the basic theme of the song, which is to encourage the other characters in the musical to stand up and sing and flaunt their talent, as the two most confident characters sing this as a duet.

Well, here you go. Critique away. *braces self*

Sir_Dotdotdot
October 31st, 2006, 01:54 am
First off, the stops are hardly possible to do (please tell me you're writing for more than one of each instrument), I'm sure the violist and violinist's fingers are going to be scrunched just playing that phrase you wrote. There were a lot of indecent dissonants. That's all I can say so far, and the first glissando was icky... Which gives a weird 'wrong' sound... ._.

Matt
October 31st, 2006, 06:49 am
hardly possible
Wrong! It's actually impossible to play for one violinist/violist =P I'd recommend you resolve some of those chords if you don't want it to end... well, dissonant. ._.

Rodents210
October 31st, 2006, 07:20 pm
It is meant to be for an octet of 4 violins and 4 violas. The chords will be split accordingly. Second, the glissando was meant to sound as it does, and the other markings were put in really fast because I was in a hurry and didn't have PrintMusic on the computer I was using (dynamic markings! Other stuff? WHY?!)

What is a dissonant and a stop? Sorry, I'm not a string player.

clarinetist
October 31st, 2006, 08:36 pm
^You don't need to be a string player to know what dissonance is... :sigh: It's just a chord that sounds.... bad.

O_O Just... sounded weird... Too much dissonance... :eek:

Stops are, for example, piano chords.... 2 chorded note for a string player is a double stop, and a 3 chorded note is a triple stop ;) .

ANYONE THAT IS DISPLAYING THE ATTACHMENT, PLEASE IGNORE IT. I HAD TO HOST IT HERE FOR A BIT ;) .

Sir_Dotdotdot
October 31st, 2006, 08:39 pm
Wrong! It's actually impossible to play for one violinist/violist =P I'd recommend you resolve some of those chords if you don't want it to end... well, dissonant. ._.

Nah, you can actually play some of the thirds, cos I wrote some evil thirds scale stuff in one of my compo according to my violinist friend. :P But it's hard, no doubt.

Rodents210
October 31st, 2006, 10:57 pm
Oh. Okay. As a wookdwing player I don't deal with chords too often so I am new to it. I'm fixing it and I may just ditch my current intro because it no longer mimics what i plan to be my chorus.

ajamesu
November 2nd, 2006, 01:19 am
^You don't need to be a string player to know what dissonance is... :sigh: It's just a chord that sounds.... bad.

not necessarily. dissonance isnt always bad; in fact, most if not all songs use at least some dissonance in music. consider dissonance as an unstability that seems like it wants to be completed.

http://www.greenwych.ca/example.htm

go to the above site for an example on dissonance in music

clarinetist
November 2nd, 2006, 09:51 pm
^It was the only way I could describe it at the time :heh: .