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Lightningsage
October 11th, 2006, 08:51 pm
I'm new at Finale Notepad, but actually, I think this first one is pretty good:

Sir_Dotdotdot
October 11th, 2006, 09:09 pm
Random. ._. I guess the next person who comment on your piece will tell you more about how to improve, cos I've said it to many others trillions of times.

musicangel820
October 11th, 2006, 09:38 pm
That was pretty random. And it all sounded too unpleasant (dissonant I guess). You do realize that the violin and viola are on two different clefs right? :think:

KaitouKudou
October 11th, 2006, 11:21 pm
The proper notation for your double sixteenth notes should be an eighth note with a tremolo. If you don't know what that is, google it.

Sir_Dotdotdot
October 11th, 2006, 11:35 pm
The proper notation for your double sixteenth notes should be an eighth note with a tremolo. If you don't know what that is, google it.

It doesn't have to be, tremolo markings are usually more associated with ensembles and orchestras.

Lightningsage
October 12th, 2006, 12:09 am
Omg, I told you I was a n00b at composing.

clarinetist
October 12th, 2006, 12:26 am
^It happens. ;).

About the song, it felt "stacked"... and random. You may want to study a bit on music theory...

KaitouKudou
October 12th, 2006, 12:39 am
It doesn't have to be, tremolo markings are usually more associated with ensembles and orchestras.

I thought it should be eighth with the "sixteenth" tremolo, indicating that one should play the tremolo at 16th note speed. This will make the music alot easier to read for the player as well.

Also, lightning sage, what were you expecting people to tell you? What are you getting fed up about. At least people are giving you a response instead of just ignoring you.

Sir_Dotdotdot
October 12th, 2006, 01:12 am
I thought it should be eighth with the "sixteenth" tremolo, indicating that one should play the tremolo at 16th note speed. This will make the music alot easier to read for the player as well.


Actually, many people would prefer it written out so it would be easier to count when performing, but tremolo marking could be used to save space and ink and all that, though I wouldn't suggest you to use it unless it's very necessary (ie: 32nd tremoli through multiple bars), especially in solo, or small ensemble work. ;)

~~~

As for you sir, Lightningsage, when you first start composing, you must accept any criticisms, saying that you're a n00b doesn't give you anything better.

Milchh
October 12th, 2006, 01:12 am
Ok. It's obvious :

You can't read those clefs, or music alone.

Marlon
October 12th, 2006, 11:29 pm
Ok. It's obvious :

You can't read those clefs, or music alone.


My thoughts exactly. And it sounds really random, dissonant, and... theory-less. x_x

Lightningsage
October 13th, 2006, 11:33 pm
AH DURE! How many times must I say it: I'm a n00b at composing.

Marlon
October 14th, 2006, 01:39 am
AH DURE! How many times must I say it: I'm a n00b at composing.

Saying you're a n00b at composing isn't gonna make you any better. Listening to our critiques and using them to improve your skills and knowledge will, so stop saying: "I'm a n00b at composing."

Milchh
October 14th, 2006, 05:49 am
There's n00bs at composing then there's f00ls at composing.

Remember that...

ajamesu
October 14th, 2006, 07:22 am
you're not a n00b, you're a newb, and with a little bit of studying and experimentation, you have the potential to be good, k? if you're not that interested in composing and you're not willing to devote a few minutes, however, i suggest you keep "Location: Writing my latest book." writing your book, which obviously seems like a passion. do what you want ^_^

Lightningsage
October 14th, 2006, 12:12 pm
It's "n00b" and "newb" the same? Just different spelling.

PFK
October 14th, 2006, 01:02 pm
Newbie is basicly the same as a beginner. Someone who's knew and understands what he's doing but not good at it. While noobs is related from the word newbie. Noobs is like beginners who don't have a clue what they're doing and thus won't get better at something either

Lightningsage
October 14th, 2006, 02:11 pm
Then i'm a n00b. Cause that's my first attempt, and I just put random notes into it. I've never played a string instrement other than Violin in my life.

clarinetist
October 14th, 2006, 02:53 pm
Typing in Random notes ≠ Composing

Think about every note you put in ;).

itscold
October 14th, 2006, 05:45 pm
That didn't sound very good... the sixteenth notes were wierd, they didn't even go with the song.
It just sounded like a random clatter of notes. You should work on how the song flows....

Lightningsage
October 15th, 2006, 12:26 pm
It just sounded like a random clatter of notes.
:!:
*Claps*
Really!? Geez...computers are horrible at sarcasim...

Sepharite
October 15th, 2006, 02:44 pm
Why post it then... if you know it's "a random clatter of notes"?

Seems like a waste of everyone's time.

Marlon
October 15th, 2006, 04:34 pm
I second Seph.

KaitouKudou
October 16th, 2006, 07:33 am
You put it in knowing that it was crap and people would criticize harshly on your...noise. People on Ichigo don't BS. We try to tell you in the kindest way possible when we don't like your music...most of the time...but we don't say something is good unless we actually think its good. If you say you just put random notes down and decided to post that up for someone to hear then you've disgraced every individual who calls himself a composer. This is my last post on this thread until I either see some improvement in your behavior/compositions or you actually decide to listen to the comments given and ask a question that's relative to improving your skills.

Until now, I didn't really give a second look at the arguments in this thread but after reading the "I just put random notes into it", it just pissed me off. I don't flame often but yes, this is a flame toward your behavior. Stop being so immature cause people didn't like your "Random placement of notes". I'm not gloating when I say I'm a better composer than you, but I still take EVERY comment from EVERYONE into consideration when fixing my songs. If they don't specify where, you should be able to identify the locations that they may have been pointing toward so don't make an excuse saying "people just say it sucks and that's it." If you can't take a little criticism, you probably shouldn't post your own stuff on a public forum to begin with.

Shape up or get out!

Milchh
October 16th, 2006, 08:34 pm
I remember when I first posted my first 'composition' on Ichigos. I actually tried for like 5 days to write it, and it appeared random to people. Lol.

~~~

Two Words : Grow Up.

I Second KK, and I third Sepharite.

clarinetist
October 16th, 2006, 08:38 pm
I actually did (also) take some time to write my first composition on Ichigos... I did about 2/3 months of study (on ichigos.com) and listened to as many pieces as I could.

I third KK, and I fourth Sepharite...

:lock: ?...

And as I said before...


Typing in Random notes ≠ Composing

Sir_Dotdotdot
October 16th, 2006, 08:41 pm
I second Mazeppa, fourth KK and fifth Sepharite. :lol:

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Though we're giving you so called 'harsh' comments, and now some 'flames', but instead of giving up, you should rather show us how much you can achieve as a composer, I mean, all composers have to start somewhere.

Milchh
October 17th, 2006, 02:37 am
Yep. To put it in a bad way, I'm still starting out. :heh:

deathraider
October 21st, 2006, 06:15 am
Sometimes the stuff you come up with typing in random notes can sound pretty cool :P, but basically, it's only good for inspiration for more organizes things.

Actually, I didn't mind the clashing viola and cello whole notes nearly so much as all the other stuff. You could come up with some cool ideas off of the whole note sections, but it needs structure, melody, and a validating chord progression to back it up.