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JSTAdreamer
October 17th, 2006, 07:03 pm
Ok the secret ending is quite a teaser! But thats what square are best at. The clip has some quotes talking about the keyblade and how it brings destruction and there are i believe three new ppl who are holding these keyblades, surrounding them is a graveyard of keyblades. Now im guessing that those keyblades are replicas and those three are def not riku kairi and sora bcas i believe one of those three is a girl if u watch carefully. Another thing is towards the end of the clip there is writing that says the "keyblade master" and u can see some1 approaching in distance, there is only ONE keyblade MASTer none other than SORA of course. I believe he was gna approach teh three guys a kik their ass lol if its him. There is writing that says "memory of xehonart" so i think hes comin back just like sora was revived through his memories so will xehonart. Other quotes are "Keyblade war" which srta explains the mass production of keyblades lyin around, there def gna be sum sort of war and it also explains the armour. And one more thing it says is "the lost two" duno who they are referin to...
erm so what are your thoughts?

EDIT: i jus remebered the three unkowns hold the keyblades the way sora, micky and Riku do when they open the door to KH hearts so these three i think are tryin it. Also there is some writing that says something about 'wanting to know what the keyblade is" or something along the lines, i believe those quotes wer coming from one of the new unkowns and they are thrying to discover the power of the keyblade.

sakura15
October 17th, 2006, 07:16 pm
ok I seriously think... hahaha... ok this is just my screwed up theory! so go ahead and laugh if you want.
I think that there was lots of keyblades, and that a huge war was fought, between the light and dark keyblades (I remember something about 3 keyblades- two that save, one that brings great sorrow. Maybe its me watching too much kh stuff.) Well, anyways, war is fought between light and dark and those 3 are left standing (if you can't tell, one is a girl, the other two are guys.). I think that Xehanort is the shadow coming from the distance. I mean, they do mention Xehanort's memories in the secret ending. I think whatever Square Enix is going to create (whether it be movie, game, extra stuff) its going to be about Xehanort and how the keyblades came to be. Remember? Ansem the Wise said in his reports that he found Xehanort, and that he couldn't remember who he was or where he had come from.
Note: If you've seen Another Side, Another Story [Deep Dive] (Final Mix special ending), at the beginning, you see Sora standing in a field on a road. That road looks like an "X", with grass surrounding it. If you note in the secret ending, the 3 armored people are standing on a road that also looks like an "x", which has keyblades surrounding it. It looks almost the same.
It is also the road where Riku was given the choice to go to either "Light" or "Darkness", but he chose neither and said he wanted to go to the "twilight". So I think that place is where light and dark meet... a world "in between" if you must.
ok I'm good. I think I need food *waves hands* Laugh at my 'theories' all you want people. I'm most likely wrong anyways.

JSTAdreamer
October 17th, 2006, 07:36 pm
I don't think the theory is screwed up it could be possible, i think the keyblades are fake ones something that some people tried to mass produce and get the right 3 keyblades that open the door to Kingdom Hearts.
Ok im gna wite the quotes in the vid in order:
First they show ansem reports the ones i think from the first KH, note that 0 was the only one written by ansem the wise and the others wer by xehanort when he took ansem's name to carry on the research which is mentioned in the KH2.
then come the quotes,

1. "The keyblade is said to hold phenomenal power"

2. "One legend says its weilder saved the world,
while another says that he rought destruction and ruin upon it"

3."i must know what the keyblade is"

4."A key opens doors" underneath it actually says ansem report but i cundnt read the number, the quote sounds familiar, in actuial fact i think all the quotes up to this one are from the ansem report, either that or just this quote us im not sure. After revising the text i think its from the report.

5. "Master of keyblade"

6. "the lost two"

7. "Memory of Xehanort"

9. "Chasers"

10."Keyblade war"

11. "It all begins with... birth by sleep"

ok thats that

btw sakura that was a good point about the crossroads, ur rite it does look like where sora was standing. I think this game is set a long time ahead as they seem to be in a desert and deserts are a sign of loss of life, lack of vegetation, deteriation... etc so something went wrong lol

Edit: This video is showing either the past or the future, the quotes from 1-4 suggest strongly in that favour as it mentions about what the keyblade is and finding out more about it when their was little knowledge about the keyblade. Therfore this quite possibly could be about what happened in the past because i don't think much has been explained about the keyblade in the games of it's orgins, there could have been other keyblade masters for all we know.
Another thing that bothers me however is the normal ending of KH2 where kairi gives sora a bottlle with a message from the king, what could that mean too? is there something to happen? so is this secret ending showing events subsquent to that note? i duno lol

sakura15
October 17th, 2006, 08:00 pm
oooo I watched the secret ending in Japanese. and the words at the bottom are only citing one of the Ansem Reports (8 and/or 7 I believe. But the Japanese Ansem reports begin at "0" and the English ones start at 1)
But another question is: who or what are the 'Chasers'?
and if you note again, the person in the armor in the middle grabbed Sora's keyblade (Kingdom Key), the one on the right grabbed Riku's, and the one on the left... grabbed who's keyblade(which looks like Oblivion)? Kairi's? But Kairi only wielded a keyblade that Riku gave to her, so that can't be right. (it looks like the one on the left is dual wielding, so Roxas came to my mind, but he's part of Sora, but in looking at them all, they're ALL dual wielding. But I'm thinking they're not keyblades) Also, the shadow that came through the fog/mirage looks like he's dual wielding too. That also brings Xehanort to mind (as when you fought him, he had two red sabers; dual wielding)
anyways, It has been confirmed by Tetsuya Nomura that the 3 in the armor are NOT Riku, Kairi, or Sora, and that they are 3 new characters.
They are probably connected with those 3 (or 5 if you must count Xehanort and Roxas).
I remember hearing something about the "inheritance" of the keyblade, how it passes from person to person (I.e. Xehanort/Ansem passed his keyblade to Riku) But I thought it was a bit outlandish, because it was just a fan idea.
Anyone?

JSTAdreamer
October 17th, 2006, 08:18 pm
oooo I watched the secret ending in Japanese. and the words at the bottom are only citing one of the Ansem Reports (8 and/or 7 I believe. But the Japanese Ansem reports begin at "0" and the English ones start at 1) i think its the same because 1-13 wer written by xehanort wen he stole ansems name and 0 was written by ansem the wise he mentions it the game, i think thats why u only find 1-13 cos they wer by xehanort


But another question is: who or what are the 'Chasers'?

Im guessing the chasers are the heartless because where the keyblade is thats where they are as they look for hearts, it could even be nobodies cos they are after the same thing OR it could be some new chasers


and if you note again, the person in the armor in the middle grabbed Sora's keyblade (Kingdom Key), the one on the right grabbed Riku's, and the one on the left... grabbed who's keyblade(which looks like Oblivion)? Kairi's? But Kairi only wielded a keyblade that Riku gave to her, so that can't be right.

ye i noticed too the keyblade has a chain with micky on it, hold on then isnt one of the keyblades the one mickey uses the kindom key hold on which one does micky weild if sora weilds teh kingdom key blah im confused, but the keyblades taken are prolly Sora, Riku and Mickys



anyways, It has been confirmed by Tetsuya Nomura that the 3 in the armor are NOT Riku, Kairi, or Sora, and that they are 3 new characters.

Ye lol i read that too


I remember hearing something about the "inheritance" of the keyblade, how it passes from person to person (I.e. Xehanort/Ansem passed his keyblade to Riku) But I thought it was a bit outlandish, because it was just a fan idea.
Anyone?

Really where? i cant remeber can u tell me more. When did Xehonart pass his keyblade to Riku??? i really cant remeber

sakura15
October 17th, 2006, 09:13 pm
Im guessing the chasers are the heartless because where the keyblade is thats where they are as they look for hearts, it could even be nobodies cos they are after the same thing OR it could be some new chasers
Good point. It could also be people "chasing" after Kingdom Hearts, using keyblades to open doors (including opening doors they shouldn't).

And about the theory of Keyblade Inheritance, I think I saw it on a forum. He/she was talking about how Riku, when he was possessed by Xehanort, automatically became the next wielder of the keyblade of ruin (it had to be given up willingly). I mean, Riku can't just pull a keyblade out of thin air. Where else could he get it? Anyways, it unlocked Sora's heart, which turned him into a heartless. Thus the "wielder that brought destruction and ruin" which the secret ending was talking about.
The reason I didn't particularly take to that theory is because it also would apply to Sora. Sora never got his keyblade from anyone else, and he was never possessed.
But he did receive the keyblade when he rejected the darkness, while Riku disappeared within it (Destiny Islands, when Riku said "The Door.. has opened...", and he disappeared into the darkness). Riku is seen with the keyblade right after a strange cloaked man "who spoke to Sora on the Destiny Islands appears and offers Riku greater power with which to defeat Sora" (refer to Maleficent's conversion into the dragon in which Riku first used the keyblade to "open her heart"; the power that the cloaked man[who was Xehanort] gave to Riku was the really nothing-the only thing Xehanort did was possess Riku.) And from that point on, Riku was seen with that keyblade, even after Ansem was gone.

Again, back to the line of "One legend says its wielder saved the world,
while another says that he rought destruction and ruin upon it". That means there are two seperate legends from two different sides. (duh.) But who's side is who's? and could it be Riku's keyblade and Sora's keyblade? or could it just be Sora's?
*sighs* so many questions I can't wait for the next kh thing to come out.

XetroxIV
October 17th, 2006, 10:02 pm
Well, the news about Kingdom Hearts 3 is still limited I’m afraid. What we do know, however, is that Tetsuya Nomura is planning and working on a new Kingdom Hearts game, though it appears likely that this game will not be the numbered sequel “Kingdom Hearts III”, but rather another adventure entirely.

It is likely, therefore, that the game Kingdom Hearts 3 might not be released for a few years to come, but there is likely to be another game or other games in between to satisfy our Kingdom Hearts desires!

That was from this site-http://www.kingdomhearts3.net/


Ow and guys/girls go here it has some pretty intersesting stuff on KH3:
http://kingdomhearts.rpgplanet.gamespy.com/kingdomhearts3/index.shtml

sakura15
October 17th, 2006, 10:31 pm
nice. I didn't know that "chasers" had another meaning. One who decorates metal by engraving or embossing... perhaps they're referring to the people who create the keychains to put on the keyblades to change their form, or the people who actually made the keyblades. [Perhaps they had a war and the chasers with the strongest keychains won.]
and as for the theory on Xehanort being a keyblade master, it sounds completely plausible, especially with Riku gaining a keyblade due to his being possessed by Xehanort.
However, it is going to be a seperate story. But as the secret trailer being before or after the events in KH and KH2, its hard to say. If its after, then does it mean Xehanort still lives?

Edit: now it seems really plausible that Xehanort is a keyblade master, due to the comment lightningsage posted about Xehanort/Xenmas

and I'm sure that KH3 isn't going to come out for a long time, and it will come out for the ps3. Whatever, I'm ready for whatever Square is making next.

I'm having too much fun with this. XD

Lightningsage
October 17th, 2006, 10:38 pm
I've seen this vid...And I know who the three are...If you observe closely, you'll see that one of them looks EXACTLY like Xemnas in the armor form. The graveyard of keyblades are previous masters that have been turned into heartless and nobodies. The other two figures are:
Kairi's heartless (Remember? She has a nobody which also means she has a heartless) and the other one I don't know, but i'm suspecting it is either Riku's nobody, or a heartless of one of the Organization XIII members.
The previous masters must have a heartless, nobody, or both somewhere in the worlds. This results in the "Keyblade Wars" as said in the text in the ending.

sakura15
October 17th, 2006, 11:10 pm
^ OOOO! true, but it was said in kh2 that Kairi really had no darkness in her heart, and that her nobody was special. However, things happen. They do look like Xenmas in that last part of KH2, but does that mean they're in the future or the past?
Again, the roads that all lead up to that one place seem to have all three collide: light, dark, twilight. We have already been shown that a nobody can wield a keyblade, so probably a nobody, a heartless, a complete being and so forth that participated in the said "war" all wielding keyblades. It could be an ultimate battle between the light (whole beings), dark (heartless), and the twilight (complete beings trapped between light and dark.) but where do the Nobodies come in? they're not supposed to exist, and apparently there is no road leading to nothing. Xemnas said they were rejected beings, so probably not even twilight would take them. Perhaps it was the darkness, twilight, and light fighting against the nobodies.
the song played in the background of the secret trailer is called "Dark Horizons", which could mean that KH3 or whatever is coming next is after Sora's time and is telling of what happened to lead up to KH and KH2 and the current situation. Or it could be before.

*puts up hands* I'm done for now. I need my brain for math. *grabs head* I'm just gonna wait for the game.

Lightningsage
October 18th, 2006, 12:11 am
Yes, very true. Nobodies are in a class of thier own: Not whole, without a heart. This leads them to be close to the twilight, but not completely. You are correct, the Twilight will not hold nobodies. There are four classifications. There is the Light, the Darkness, and the Twilight. HOWEVER, the symbol for all three of these do not show four signs. It must mean that nobodies are Twilight. I could be wrong, but the symbol does not hold four signs: The Heartless, the Nobodies, and the Light. However, the twilight are complete beings, meaning that nobodies couldn't fit in that cadigory. This is confundling me...

[@Sakura: I wonder what my Org. XIII name would be :think: I could use my name...Rhisxc (Pronounciation: Rei-SIX-ick)]

simplicity1love
October 18th, 2006, 01:52 am
So .. are we assuming that we KNOW the people in the armoured suits ? I believe I've read an interview with nomura .. and he said that it was original characters . :think: but then .. maybe they are people we know .

KHII:FM+ is .. in the making ? Well , if you're a dedicated KH fan .. maybe you've seen the new picture of one of the guys in the secret ending ? His mask cracked -- you can see part of his face . I recommend you guys to see it :)

sakura15
October 18th, 2006, 02:20 am
^nope, I KNOW that they're new characters. but the guy in the armor looks a lot like Sora, doesn't he? I can't wait for KH2 Final Mix +. I wonder if its going to have anything with the Naso no kamen-nan'shi [Mysterious masked warriors] in it!!
*to lightningsage* have we even seen the Realm of Light? Was it the Disney castle? we've only seen the Realm of Darkness (that dark beach). and maybe the realm of Twilight [the World that Never Was]
but that means admiting that the Nobodies exist in Twilight, which is between light and dark. They aren't supposed to exist, but apparently they do anyways.
*gasp*

Edit: OK!!! for all of you who have played KH2! Remember the beginning? When Roxas went to the Abandoned Mansion and had to draw the 3rd symbol on the table to get through the floor to the room where Sora was sleeping? There was the Nobody/Organization XIII symbol, the Heartless symbol... and there was another symbol. What was it? I remember I told myself to watch carefully but I couldn't see what it was. Anyone else remember?

JSTAdreamer
October 18th, 2006, 08:24 am
That jus leaves the symbol of light if there is one, is there one????

I had this thought...
I think the story could quite possibly be about the past because the quote "Memory of Xehanort" suggests to me about the time when ansem the wise, as mentioned in his report, talked about xehanhort being a failed experiement, how he forgot who he was, how he had to revive him through his memories and restore him from his slumber just like sora(something along the lines). Most of teh quotes seem to focus on the past, whats even more interesting is the quote "It all begins with... birth by sleep"... what was born, was it the power to weild the keyblade? or was it the keyblade? i really don't know but i gta feeling its one of them.
Also the idea of inheritance u mentioned Sakura sounds right, i think that Riku possesed a stronger heart which is why he could weild the keyblade, and i think its teh keyblade of darkness which seems obvious as Riku did submit to darkness. That means that Soar clearly weilds the keyblade of Light and that leaves teh keyblade of Twighlight which prolly is Mickys.
Also during one of Sora's clashes with an organisation member, the member mentions about previous keyblade weilder/s and also i read it in an interview with Tetsuya Nomura taht some1 posted in another thread (btw i havent actually read this interview thoroughly but it looks like it answers some vital questions) http://www.kh2.co.uk/?page=NI/KH2U


In the World that Never Was, Xigbar said to Sora "Compared to the ones before this, you're weaker"; does that mean he's comparing Sora to previous Keyblade wielders before him?
Yes, he was. I was hinting "Xigbar has met other Keyblade wielders before." As for something more than that... I'll leave it to your imagination.

That proves that there are def previous keyblade weilders and further more...


After the ending, there's a secret movie this time, too. What exactly is the movie trying to tell?
I actually have a solid idea on what the movie's setting will be in my head. In the previous game's secret movie, I wasn't even sure if I would be making a sequel or not, so some parts of it were quite vague. But this time I already have an idea my head where I think "This is it."

Did that scene happen in the future or in the past?
I would at least say it's an episode in the past, but.... Hmm, how should I say this? It's in the past but you can also think it's in the future, something like that.

Who are the 3 armoured people?
Those 3 are completely new people who haven't shown up at all. In fact, I've already thought of their names. Back when I was making that movie, I only had their settings but now I've even drawn their faces to give myself a clearer image of them.


That proves that the characters are new, it proves the scene is from teh past but not necessarily the whole thing will be about the past.
Ok going back to xehanhort ... he and the apprentices turn against ansem the wise right wen xehanhort goes looney and curious, so before they did their experiments they were all normal right, we know xehanhort had a heartless and his nobody and we saw his original form BUT we only know the nobodies of the other five apprentices not their original form, they could look different bcas xehanhort was the strongest and he could maintain his form, Sora's Roxas was diff too but that is possibly cos of the clash between him and Kairi and the whole mix up of their hearts and so on that they explained in the game but u get the idea... THERFORE these new characters could be some of those original forms of the apprentices BEFORE they were nobodies and before their experiments went wrong or whatever.
phew sorry bout the length but i had to say it lol

edit: hey sakura i jus thought something the idea that the weilder who bought destruction being riku and the one who saved the world being Sora i think is a good idea but if xehanhort (with ansems name) in his report is talking about 'legends' it cant be them it has to be about the previous weilders bcas this was the past. The 'destruction' though is most def referin to Rikus keyblade im sure and the other obviously the keyblade of light: Sora's.
Oh this is getting me excited i bet the previous weilders wer bloody powerful if one bought destruction, i'd love it if this is a movie that would be cool.

Lightningsage
October 18th, 2006, 09:28 pm
The other symbol was the symbol of light, and we have seen the Realm of Light. The Realm of Light is...Destiny Islands. In the ending of Kingdom Hearts 2, Sora and Riku went through the "Door to Light", and ended up in the Destiny Islands. The Realm of Twlight is indeed The World that Never Was, and the Realm of Darkness is the beach that Riku and Sora appeared on after beating Xemnas. Twilight is inbetween these worlds, like a neutral world. The nobodies did not allign with the heartless, but niether did that allign with the light. Therefore, this makes them neutral; the Twilight. However, they are more evil than good, as the also wanted to create their Kingdom Hearts, by using Sora to destroy the heartless. Once that was finished, they wanted to destroy the light.

sakura15
October 19th, 2006, 12:12 am
^ah!!! remember that the last Xemnas form was called "Twilight Xemnas"? HAH! brilliance, lightningsage!
anyways, I guess they are of Twilight, considering that they are slowly fading into darkness.
"the soft, diffused light from the sky when the sun is below the horizon, either from daybreak to sunrise or, more commonly, from sunset to nightfall." The Nobodies are obviously going from "Sunset to nightfall", (from existing to non... fading back into the darkness) So... the armored people are of twilight? light? darkness?

Lightningsage
October 19th, 2006, 01:53 am
Possibably Twilight and Darkness, maybe even light Xemnas in armor form, Kairi's heartless, Riku's nobody(?) or Org XIII heartless(?). Yes, Naimine did say that Nobodies were doomed to fade back into the darkness towards the end of the 2nd battle with Xemnas, after beating him in the throne. Roxas and Namine however, who chose not to fade back into the darkness, won't fade away, seeing they choose the light. Nobodies have a choice, but most of them fade into darkness. Marluxia however...he may have chosen the light, by the way he wanted to use Sora. And Axel also choose the light. Possibly all the people who were involved in Marluxia's plot choose light. However, it is not certain.

EDIT: Heh, Sakura. You know what's funny about that picture on the KHFX+2 thread? That picture helpped me find out who the third was. Doesn't that look like someone we know? Someone like he's much older now. Someone like: SORA! However, I could be wrong.

JSTAdreamer
October 19th, 2006, 11:40 pm
they are more evil than good, as the also wanted to create their Kingdom Hearts, by using Sora to destroy the heartless. Once that was finished, they wanted to destroy the light.

Really did they want to destroy the light? i thought they were just after hearts because they were empty vessels that were heartless and they wanted to be whole again because they lost the power of emotion and strived for it, at least thats what the Organiztion said pretty much half way through the game and also at the end wen Xmenas explains it all.

EDIT: Oh ye lighteningsage i gta question the realm of light is destiny islands which u noticed and is correct, the realm of darkness is where Riku and Sora were and the inbetween/twighlight is The World that Never Was... so one thing im confused about, what are the all the other worlds?

Lightningsage
October 19th, 2006, 11:47 pm
Yes. The wanted both: A world of their own without light or darkness, where neutrality ruled (The Realm of Twilight).

JSTAdreamer
October 19th, 2006, 11:49 pm
Hmmm really i cant believe i missed that where was it mentioned if u remember?

Lightningsage
October 19th, 2006, 11:53 pm
Throughout the game, in the introductions to the Organization. They would plan to use Sora in order to create Kingdom Hearts for thier own world, and whilst in the progress, collect hearts for themselves.

JSTAdreamer
October 20th, 2006, 12:02 am
But that didnt mean they wanted to destroy the light they were just using Sora to get hearts and become normal again, don't take me wrong i just don't understand what your saying:heh:

Lightningsage
October 20th, 2006, 12:07 am
:sigh: Nevermind...

JSTAdreamer
October 20th, 2006, 12:15 am
sorry:heh:
cos i jus never picked up on that or read it anywhere even on sites written about the organization and their plans and blah blah

look heres a background review about the organization and it doesnt mention it...


Background

The first six members of Organization XIII are Nobodies of assistants of Ansem the Wise in his experiments with the heart. The assistants and Ansem built an underground facility in the Radiant Garden where they conducted experiments with the heart, using themselves as test subjects. After speaking with the off-worlder, King Mickey, Ansem saw the immorality of what he was doing and ceased his involvement. The assistants and their leader, Xehanort, did not share his moral compunction and continued their experiments. This eventually led to tragedy and the creation of Nobody versions of the assistants. Xemnas, the Nobody of Xehanort, became the "Superior" and founded Organization XIII in order to learn about the secrets of the heart and to recover their hearts and become complete beings again. To that end, they deliberately send Heartless into various worlds with the expectation of Sora killing them, releasing the hearts inside the creatures, which then bond with the Organization's artificial version of Kingdom Hearts, the "heart of all worlds" located in the World That Never Was, granting more usable power for the Organization. To further that goal, the Castle That Never Was was built in the World That Never Was to serve as a headquarters.

Each member's name is an anagram of their original self's name with an X added. The origins and original names of members VII to XII are unknown at this time.

Lightningsage
October 20th, 2006, 02:28 am
There are many mysteries revolving around Organization XIII...One of them is what thier Heartless are and where they are.

sakura15
October 20th, 2006, 02:29 am
Well, you both could be right. But Xemnas/Xehanort/Ansem was just using Sora to further his studies on the Heart. The experiments he conducted when he was whole continued on; only the 6 six assistants of Ansem the Wise were working with him: Braig (Xigbar), Dilan (Xaldin), Even (Vexen), Elaeus (Lexaeus), Ienzo (Zexion, who's weapon/element is still unknown. It might have something to do with the next Kingdom Hearts installment), and himself, Xehanort. The rest are all nobodies who joined Org. XIII after it was created. Even though they were all together for one reason, to find and open Kingdom Hearts, their ends were different. Some wanted to find their Hearts, others wanted to test the powers of the Heart and its limitations, while still others wanted to find "heart of all worlds".

As for the nobodies, Xehanort/Xenmas said they were rejected by both the light and dark and cannot choose either.
(keyword: Rejected. and it sounds like they weren't given a choice like Riku and Sora; they were to become nobodies and trapped in Twilight, regardless of any circumstances. Perhaps it was their punishment for playing around with the secrets of the Heart and with forces that were beyond their understanding.)

Lightningsage
October 20th, 2006, 03:32 am
It the game though, they did have a choice, but like Naimine said, "Nobodies are doomed to fade back into darkness". It sounded like that most nobodies choose the darkness instead of the light. But Axel, Namine, and Roxas choose the light instead of darkness, thus they are more light than darkness. GAH! This conversation makes me want to create a new profile on KH2 and start over! I loved the Twilight Thorn battle XD. Wait...'Twilight' Thorn? Yep...nobodies are Twilight. The thorn attack used by Xemnas and the Twilight Thorn are white and black, which must mean they symbolize Light and Darkness. Therefore, I am right: The Twilight is a world where neutraility rules over all. The Twilight is between the two realms as the World that Never Was, a stop along the way to the Dark and Light realms. It is between everything: The Twilight is more powerful than Darkness, but not Light. The nobodies use both the powers of Light and Darkness, but most choose Darkness over Light. They did have a choice, but they made the wrong one. It seems to me that letter in the ending of KH2 had to do with the "Keyblade Wars" or the Heartless of Organization XIII. We know that the nobodies are done for, as all of thier leaders are gone, but Mickey may be saying that there are more. As Mickey said: "As long as there is Light, there is Darkness and the inbetween." This was said at the begginning and towards the middle of the game.

sakura15
October 20th, 2006, 04:22 am
*goes and plays her level 93 game* The name of Riku's Keyblade.... "Way To Dawn". That make sense as he chose to go to Twilight; more specifically, to Dawn (closer to light). (the Nobodies were doomed to Dusk; which is closer to dark.)
Hm... I don't think Nobodies have a choice though. Roxas and Namine were special. They were NOT doomed to fade into darkness because their "others" were of light and extremely strong of heart. Org XIII are of twilight, but because they can't find their others and become whole again, they can't choose (or they're never given the choice and are stuck in twilight [The World that Never Was]).
Why else would Xemnas near the end say "We were rejected by both light and darkness"? Even Roxas was rejected by both light and darkness until he became one with Sora (you can argue that because he did the same thing as Sora in the beginning of KH that he is of light.
However, this only happened when Sora began to regain consiousness/memories of who he was, so Roxas choosing light doesn't count because he was drawn to his "other" who was originally of light.).
That means the Nobodies have to go to their own place--- twilight; which is where all the beings (complete and non) go when they are trapped between and/or rejected from light and dark realms.

JSTAdreamer
October 20th, 2006, 07:00 am
I agree

Xehanort
March 8th, 2007, 09:01 pm
Welcome to the world of truth for Kingdom Hearts 2 ending.
Xehanort was a Keybalde Master, not a Weilder. He lost in a battle between Light and Dark. HE was the dark. HE escaped. HE ebded up in Radiant Garden where he was healed. He cared for him and became one of his assistance. There were 5 others: Braig, Dilan, Even, Elaeus, and Ienzo. They studdied the darkness, and fell. The 5 changed into Nobodies while their hearts drifted away into everlasting darkness. They are known as Xigbar, Xaldin, Vexen, Lexeaus, and Zexion. As for Xehanort, or shoul I say Another or No Heart with a "X" in it, became BOTH a Nobody and Heartless. They are known as Ansem, vilian in KH1 and heartless to Xehanort, and Xemnas leader of the Organization XII. Now, where do you think they got their elements? Ah, where's Xehanorts armor? In the deepest areas of Hollow Bastion Castle. The source of the Organization XIII. The Power supply to create Heartless. What comes next? Eh, who knows.