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clarinetist
October 20th, 2006, 09:39 pm
1st Chord (of this piece: http://forums.ichigos.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3349&d=1161380466 ) on the left hand... how do you reach those notes? I can only reach 9 notes from pinky to thumb... and it seems like those kind of chords happen in almost every measure in the first page of this piece...

I've only played Piano (Keyboard, though :heh: ) for about 3-4 months now... I thought I might learn about this though...

(If the link above doesn't work, see http://forums.ichigos.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3350&d=1161380624).

Sondagger
October 21st, 2006, 03:34 am
If you can't reach a note, try to roll the chord. You could also bring the note up an octave in the chord. Or you can just plain omit it.

The choice is up to you.

deathraider
October 21st, 2006, 06:08 am
Which of those is bothering you? I don't see any chords over an octave.

Asuka
October 21st, 2006, 09:19 am
Play the Bflat octive with your thumb and pinky, then play your F, B, D with your right hand. Though the F isn't really necessary, it more of just enriches the chord than anything else.

clarinetist
October 21st, 2006, 03:38 pm
Which of those is bothering you? I don't see any chords over an octave.
The LEFT HAND first chord of first measure.

Thanks for the help.. but it's going to be hard to do that at the 6th measure... 2 OCTAVES? Who could do this? .... but I'll try rolling it for now...

leonheart
October 21st, 2006, 06:18 pm
There aren't any chords over 1 octives though.

for the first chord of the first measure: play B1 and B2 with your left hand pinky and thumb, then play F3 D4 F4 with your right hand: thumb, middle finger and pinky.

for the first chord of the 6th measure: its only 1 octive for each hand: the fingering for left hand is: 5 1 for B1 and B2
right hand: 1 2 3 5 or 1 2 4 5 for F3 B3 D4 F4
EDIT: i made a general picture of what i looks like
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f151/lionheart11/chord1.jpg

clarinetist
October 22nd, 2006, 12:45 am
*wonders why it is cross-staffed*

Maybe I got the definiton wrong... :heh: I always thought if anything was crossed of to the bass clef staff, it meant to play it with the left hand...

Milchh
October 22nd, 2006, 02:23 am
If you say you can attempt this, but ask pretty obviously questions about fingerings and whatnot (which, again, are simple catch 22s) you can't play this yet then. Sorry, but it's the whole building up of different skills from any pieces, to tackle others.

leonheart
October 22nd, 2006, 02:24 am
wonders why it is cross-staffed*

Maybe I got the definiton wrong... I always thought if anything was crossed of to the bass clef staff, it meant to play it with the left hand...
nope in this case, the stem of that note is still attached to the right hand part so you play it with your right hand

Asuka
October 22nd, 2006, 08:57 am
*wonders why it is cross-staffed*

Maybe I got the definiton wrong... :heh: I always thought if anything was crossed of to the bass clef staff, it meant to play it with the left hand...

Alot of the time that is the case, but you always need to be aware of exceptions. Besides, it's easier to read notes on the clef than off of it. Just use common sense with whatever is easy for you and all should go swell.

clarinetist
October 22nd, 2006, 01:15 pm
If you say you can attempt this, but ask pretty obviously questions about fingerings and whatnot (which, again, are simple catch 22s) you can't play this yet then. Sorry, but it's the whole building up of different skills from any pieces, to tackle others.

I just thought I should learn more about cross staffing ;) . If I knew that the cross staffed notes to the left hand were meant to play with the right hand (in this case), I would at least, figure out a fingering for this ;) . But I'll look for something easier.

(Bit off-topic, but what method book(s) should I consider? There's SO many @_@ ... I don't even know how to perform a legato (properly) :heh: I just don't want to buy one that's not worth it... (and I can't afford a teacher right now)).

Thanks for the help ^_^ .

Thorn
October 22nd, 2006, 02:46 pm
well i've always found the best way to learn to be just throw yourself in at the deep end and look up/ask other people stuff as you go along.

there are millions of method books out there; i didnt start from scratch so i dont really know- but if it's technique improvement you're after then i would recommend the Hanon exercises.

as for things like cross staffing and the like; it is impossible to list all the tiny problems a pianist might encounter in a single book. so you really are better off just learning from mistakes.