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XetroxIV
November 9th, 2006, 03:59 pm
Ok on episode 25 Motoko gets her head shot off.Just last night I just saw ep. 26 and she is alive. How is that possiable, if she just died? I'm majorly confussed. @_@

Offtopic:Should I watch Voltron?

XetroxIV
November 10th, 2006, 05:42 pm
Someone please help me out I'm still confised.

Eternal
November 11th, 2006, 10:10 pm
I think you should ask Mies about this~
He's the Anime/Manga Keeper here~

Neko Koneko
November 12th, 2006, 08:43 am
Motoko's a robot/android kinda thing. Not human.

ChristopherArmalite
November 12th, 2006, 08:11 pm
hmm...it's been awhile since I watched this, which is why I haven't replied to this thread. Let me try and remember it.

I remember Kusanagi getting sniped when she walks up to the plane, episode 25 ends there. In the next episode it was revealed that she was alive, I guess it wasn't explained why, but I think she was saved by the Laughing Man again.

@Angelic: lol, she's an android alright but she received a bullet to her head (which contained her "braincase", which acts as a skull for her brain, not an AI program) so she'd still "die" so to speak because her brain is contained in that "skull"

Neko Koneko
November 15th, 2006, 09:57 am
Did the brain get hit though?

ChristopherArmalite
November 15th, 2006, 09:24 pm
yep, it was a headshot x_x

M
November 17th, 2006, 11:17 pm
Sorry it took so long for me to respond to this thread. I actually forgot a lot about GitS, and had to review a few episodes before producing a response. Keep in mind that this is a personal interpretation, and some blanks are filled in from my own logic of the show.

Let us define a few variables, shall we. Cyberbrains. These little devices have the remarkable ability to digitize brain activities without some sort of translational device, such as a terminal. Take note that a Cyberbrain is NOT a replacement of a brain, but, rather, a modification done on the brain that allows for Cyberization. Also, if a cyberbrain is destroyed, the persons brain is destroyed as well. They are one in the same, though separate. Think of it like a shell. Something that is contained within, yet it is not the object within.

The term used to refer to one that has a cyberbrain and maintains a persona is Ghost; a term stolen from Arthur Koestler's "The Ghost in the Machine". A good comparative is the Section 9 versus the cute little Tachikomas. A ghost cannot be replicated, just like how a human cannot be fully replicated. If you've seen Key, the Metal Idol, think of a Ghost as a form of Geist -- the element that gives the human a soul.

Now there are several things are brought to mind on Motoko's death. One: Like in the episode that proceeded it, it was possible that Motoko was acting though a puppet, and was not actually killed. Two: recreation via progeny; meshing both Aoi's Ghost with the Majors to form two symmetric beings. The dialog between Aoi (the laughing man) and Motoko makes be believe this statement. For convenience, I will quote it:

Aoi: So, do you mean to tell me that even if the flesh is lost, a person's thoughs can wander the net and continue existing as a unique individual?
Motoko: I'm not so sure. It's hard to imagine that a will that's free of its shell could maintain its individuality in the sea of the net.
Aoi: So, for someone whos lives on, even as they continuously lose their individuality, this world is despair.
Motoko: I guess that depends on how you define despair. At any rate, there's always the option of giving death a try, right?
Aoi: I suppose there's always that option. Anyway, I'm in your debt. Thank you. They way you kept your promise was extremely charming.
Through out this dialog, you're shown a gateway to the net, pictures of Aoi's library, then an exit into what seems like a pool of ghost divers on the net. Just how was the Major able to communicate with the laughing man if her cyberbrain was destroyed; what of the images that were shown; why was she diving or drawn to the digitized version of Aoi's Library? These remain unanswered.

The next thought is that she dived entirely into the net, and left her shell, returning to another possible prosthetic body at a different time.

But if you really want an answer, I'll give you this: She lives. The anime doesn't explain why, the manga doesn't explain why, the movies don't help. I'm sure there's something hidden deep within the anime that the writers thought out, but I can't seem to draw out exactly what they want. In writing, they call this effect the paradox of indefinites. They left the blank there purposely to make you think harder about the anime, thus making you remember the story longer. A prime example of this is Evangelion.


To answer your second question:
Watch Voltron if and only if you like old style mecha shows.